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This is a disgrace! Police give the illegals a high five and give the LEGAL citizens the FINGER!!!
BORDERS LANGAUGE CULTURE!!!!
Eric Garrett
American Patriot/Minuteman
The reasoning for doing nothing is the reason this problem is becoming more out of control. The police seem to pick and choose their issues. They don't want to have trouble with illegals or gays, so they cross the street to avoid the problem. I hope that some one somewhere has the guts to do the hard things. Send illegals back, prosecute them if they come back. Arrest gays for indecency in public parks. It is indecent to see two men or two women kissing. The moral fabric of our society is becoming in shreds.
Our society is becoming more dangerous. The law enforcement officers that we hire now refuse to enforce the law. It becomes more dangerous because private groups will begin to take their own actions.
Illegals are expensive and taxing to our economy. Lets start bussing them back to where they came from.
find the cost of freedom buried in the sand!! we pay the bills now the bums are here to stake their claim ...i am going to join the minuteman society and oh forbid civil rigths of a people who don't even care if they take my job...the police will enforce that for sure...
I don't get it. LAnce Davenport gets chosen by the Governor to be the colonel of the Highway Patrol, but he doesn't have to obey the law? I will be asking my representative and my senator to cut the budget of the Highway Patrol. Clearly, we don't need troopers on the road who won't enforce the law. We also don't need a Colonel who is lawless and thumbs his nose at the Governor, the Legislature and the people of Utah. Who does Mr. Davenport think is bringing drugs and guns into this state?
Is every officer during every contact with a civilian supposed to ask for documentation proving nation of origin? Do you have that on you - i.e birth cert, green card, passport or something else official? Utah driver's license doesn't have that on there. Do you want to end up in lock up because you couldn't prove you were an American right off the bat? Do brown citizens with an accent deserve that treatment?
Unless I am mistaken, law enforcement offices are saying the law is written in a manner that violates civil rights. So would you rather sacrifice civil rights or some time to write legislation that is enforceable without violating civil rights? Would you complain that your tax dollars were being wasted when this gets sent all the way up to the supreme court? Would the answer be the same if you were the one who spent the night in lock-up?
What I want to know is what are the peoples representatives going to do about Law Enforcment agency's refusal to enforce any mandatory laws contained within SB 81?? Start calling and e-mailing your state Senators and Represnetatives and demand that they take action against outlaw so called Law enforcment. What you are seeing is the same attitude that illegals brought with them. They don't respect the law or the country that they have invaded. As for our fellow Americans that continue to appease and harbor illegals we need to send them a message. Start with the Governor and Attorney General who are both guilty of appeasing illegals and as for Atty-General Shurtleff he won't admit it but he is one of the biggest appeasers. Folks, we have to demand enforcement. The buck stops with 'We the People." Only by governing through the consent of the people are the authority's legitimate. The vast majority of Utahan's support SB 81 and want any mandatory laws enforced. As for the optional participation components of SB 81 start calling your Mayors and City councils and State representatives. Demand compliance Now!
get paid enough to enforce immigration laws?????
What the crap is this? Let me get this correct before I get to off base.......You stop a vehicle for some "violation"--that is the only reason to stop anyone--right?! You ask for a license and insurance--they don't have one but a "driving card", not much English or none at all--Red Flag. Simply ask for SS card or "green card" or visa! Cannot produce any of the three?
If they were drunk they go to jail and you get paid to do that job--right?!
Not drunk but in the USA and Utah as illegal--take them to jail...this takes more salary than the above?!
Hey Gov...what is the deal?
He cops....I don't want a drivers license--I just want a driving card as a good white American citizen so I can get away with this type of BS.
Clearly, the legislature needs to re-write the laws so its' not "OPTIONAL"! Then if cities and counties want to ignore the law, they need to face some sort of financial sanctions!
Amazing, the crowd the police were talking to already BROKE THE LAW by coming here. That's why they are called ILLEGAL ALIENS. Why don't the police do a poll of those same people of how many have stolen identities so they can find a job! Is that good enough to get arrested?
It's too bad we care more about hurt feelings and someone being "profiled" than upholding the law.
I saw 4 or 5 policeman dishing out speeding tickets on Bangerter Hwy today like they were candy. Can't we put that energy into something more serious like illegal immigration? Just think of the possibilities. . .
Take some of my tax money and have one of these meetings with free food and drinks on a weekly basis. Have the Fed Immingation boys working the get-to-gether as "stealth security".
In order to leave the meeting you must show some ID that allows you to be in the USA? No showeee....no goeeee--except onto the deportation bus.
I hate to say it but one of these days there may be another "remember the Alamo" chant, and I can tell you the end result will be much different.
I am a white native of Utah. My Hispanic wife just immigrated here from El Salvador and we have gone to a great deal of effort to overcome an antiquated, outdated immigration system so she could come the right way.
We waited almost one year for the processing of her fiance visa, another three months for her approval processing, and another four months for her permanent resident and employment authorization (aka green) cards!
I am sick and tired of out-of-touch politicians writing these racially motivated laws that single out people like my wife just because she is Hispanic!
My wife and I spent over a year and a half dealing with a bureaucratic, broken, and boorish immigration system.
My wife will likely feel less inclined to report crimes and help the police if she was ignored because of her Latin ethnic background. And I, her husband, don't want to have to deal with that conflict of interest.
My wife and I have worked so hard to do this legally, the right way...
I just wish politicians like Rep. Mike Noel and others would just keep their racist laws to themselves and leave the rest of us alone.
Sinmce when are the police replacing the elected Legislature and Governor?
The job of the police is to obey the law and enforce the law, period. Incase no-one told Salt Lake Police Chief Chris Burbank and police chiefs from Park City and West Valley City and Utah Highway Patrol Col. Lance Davenport, this applies to them personally.
Since they have no integrity, they are still on the job and breaking the law, then they should be fired immediately and subject to immediate prosecution.
Disgusted in Salt Lake
Watch it happen before your eyes, making victims out of illegal aliens in the name of racial profiling.
That will be the thrust of the Obama run on immigration reform this year.
It was reinforced earlier this week when Homeland Security declared that rightwing extremists who disagree with current immigration policy are potentially dangerous due to racial overtones. Local police got that bulletin. Ask them about it.
When you think about it, this racial tension was CREATED by our government when they failed to enforce the law for decades.
What else can you conclude when you realize that over half of the new arrivals to the US in the last 15 years have come here ILLEGALLY.
I reluctantly sell used cars for a living (I know I'm probably scum to many, but I'm legal scum). Anyway, I was pulling credit on a Mexican on Monday and his social security number did not work. So he gave me another number and it had bad credit, so he gave me a third and then a fourth social security number until he had one with good credit. I didn't sell him a car nor did I process his loan. I can't wait until Huntsman, Becker, and Burbank have their identification/social security # stolen by one of these illegals!!!
It's not the police's fault. They are just trying to enforce the law and have been backed into a corner by Rep. Noel and his cohorts with "retribution".
Rep. Noel needs to withdraw this racist, irresponsible, and discriminatory law immediately. If not, it is almost certain that a lawsuit will be pending to overthrow it.
Woundn't it be nice if every immigrant did it the right and legal way. That way no one would question your wife. It is all the illegals that make it hard on those who immigrated here legally.
My son is a police officer and has to follow orders even though he feels it is completly wrong. His department has a major problem with illegal immigrants but can do very little due our current lack of direction to enforce our laws. We elect these people and we deserve what we get. I hear about the concerns of the silent majority, maybe they should not be silent anymore but be a voice of concern. Utah leads the nation in illegal immigration growth, what a compliment to our leaders. California has been a sancutary state and they are broke, Utah will be soon with our lack of concern. We are known as a sanctuary state. I enjoy paying taxes to take care of the people who are here enjoying free medical, education and well as welfare benefits. The taxes I pay should benefit my family not people who are here illegal. We will soon be like California. I believe in lawful immigration not breaking the law of the land. The direction we are going we will be a third world country owned by China. What a future to look forward to.
All you minutemen ever do is whine... as an ILLEGAL alien, with no social security and no one to fall back on, ,y father came to this country and worked his tail off. He did not ask or receive anything from anyone. Never comitted a crime (yes, besides being an illegal immigrant, I can already hear people going off about that)He paid taxes and never received services Americans take for granted. He did not whine and he made more out of himself than the average Joe. He did not make excuses like you. I think it's so pathetic that illegal aliens (people who for the most part do not have a college or even high school education) beat you out for jobs!!! You have such a head start on them and they get a job over you? YOU can go to college but choose not to. Don't blame your loss of jobs to illegal immigrants, blame it on your lazyness...
I personally believe your country needs more people like him, he seems a lot like your FOREFATHERS. They'd be ashamed of what a lot of lazy citizens you've become...
Of upwards of 20 million illegal Mexicans, it is estimated that of the adults (roughly half of the illegals), 80% work. Nearly all of those work at jobs where income taxes and FICA are deducted. So that is 8 million people paying into social security that won't collect it and paying taxes on which they would receive nearly all of it back if they filed. Add that to the retail purchases they make to live, it is not really a bad deal for the rest of us. The real impact would be if they all left at once.
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