Comments about ‘Not all Americans have been 'greenwashed'’

The biggest heist pulled off on the American people that I can think of to date. Al Gore isn't using a "GUN" to hold us hostage, he's using camera's and media hype to make us all look like a bunch of "IDIOTS"!!!

How many millions has Al Gore and his thugs ripped off from this GREAT NATION, while basking in the sun, flying personal corporate jets around the world, limo service provided for he and his culprits and the list goes on.

So many of you are "GREENWASHED" from his kool-aid or green jello.

Last I checked, we're way above snow pack in Wyoming, Utah and Colorado. What does Mr. GORE have to say about that???? Ohhhhh that's right, a piece of ice broke off the North Pole.....cry me a RIVER!

Sounds like a free advertisement for Sutherland's Earth Week 2009. Wonder of Deseret News charged them for printing the article. If they didn't, they should have.

Fortunately, science isn't settled according to Gallup polls.

Most Americans are scientifically illiterate - that's a fact. Most can't tell you the reason for Earth's seasons or why the Moon goes through its phases. A significant number of Americans think the Apollo missions were faked. We've dumbed-down our society, and widespread public science illiteracy (e.g. the "Hog Wash!" comment above) is the natural consequence.

So - the Sutherland Institute, that Right-of-Attila-the-Hun "think-tank" doesn't believe in Global Warming. Is this a big surprise to anyone?

Facts are facts - although in this state people are adept at clamping their eyes shut, sticking their fingers in their ears and humming loudly anytime they're presented with science that challenges their beliefs.

I too choose to not believe in global warming. I mean, look at how great our lives are with oil dependency, providing jobs for our military overseas and all to protect our oil access. Look how we showed Samoli pirates this week with our military might to keep our oil shipping lanes free!

The solution to global warming is switching our whole energy infrastructure to domestic, clean energy source like solar, wind, and geothermal energy. Soon we'll be driving electric cars -- but what will that get us? Our Mideast oil dollars will dry up and go into domestic rural communities and American companies like Tesla and GM (if it can get its Volt's out the door). Like Rush Limbaugh, I ain't ever going to drive an Prius or electric car!

The problem with renewable energy is that it is price stable -- unlike that exciting yo-yo cost of oil, coal, and natural gas -- and well, that would not be any fun! Our energy bills would be the same price every month, year in and year out. How boring! I like to play pricing games with my local gas station, trying to predict what gas will cost everyday!

People make the mistake of thinking of climate change as something they can "believe in". Well, here's a shocker... it's not a belief system, it is a fact. Atmospheric science is something that is well studied and understood, and these scientists are finding that climate change is happening faster than previously imagined.
The real question is why at "think tank" like the Sutherland Institute, with no scientific background, wants to distort the facts and try to get people to question these facts. Who is financing them? Their web site won't say... they obviously have something to hide. My guess is that their sponsors are afraid of change, and want to delay it. But the more we delay actions to combat climate change, the more it will cost, and the worse the effects will be.
Sutherland supporters apparently are looking at short-term profits; not the long-term economic chaos that will occur if we don't take control and plan for these climatic changes now.

News for you says "facts are facts" but fails to provide any. Good, work, I'm now convinced!

Stick with status quo shifts the argument. Nowhere in Mr. Monson's column did he say we don't have problems with energy dependency, pollution, etc. Thinking folks who don't believe that man contributes significantly enough to climate change to have an impact on its "fix" (even with economically disruptive drastic reductions and restructurings), can nevertheless tackle these problems. Mr. Monson does not suggest we don't and your comments are disingenuous because they infer he does. Clever, perhaps, but intellectually dishonest.

I'm sick of everyone saying that global warming is a fact. That depends on when you're measuring and still does not account for the level of fault to be assigned to humans. Without knowing that level of fault, we can't even begin to know what, if any, significant effect even a reduction to a zero carbon economy would have on any climate change. Further, carbon (which is always what's trotted out by the greens as the evil sin) is a small portion of greenhouse gases. Methane is far greater. In fact, a UN report a couple of years ago said that methane from cows poses a greater threat for climate change than all the world's cars put together. So, PETA will have to rethink that whole be kind to animals bit if we're to tackle that problem. It's either handbags or forced feeding of Beano. Either way, let's put money there instead of on artificially capping carbon emissions and disrupting our economy.

@Hog Wash!!!! | 12:51 a.m. April 13, 2009

"The biggest heist pulled off on the American people that I can think of to date."

No, that would be religion.

What you people are too dumb to understand is that, even if global warming weren't factual, clean air and water are vital to our health, well-being, and even survival. Why are you all so dumb not to realize that?

What do you think when you walk out into an inversion on a "red air" day? Is that OK with you?

Research published last month indicates that Americans actually don't like chocolate. This is backed up by a Gallup pole from some unknown date that indicated only 30% of Americans even knew chocolate was candy. From this information, we must infer that Easter is nothing more than a marketing scam targetted at convincing our children that chocolate should be part of their religious beliefs in order to increase future sales.

Um, I'm intelligent and mature enough to admit that I know very little about climatology and am not qualified to either confirm or debunk the subject of Global Warming. I am educated enough to recognize a several hundred word advertizement disguised as an Op Ed. No real references other than vaguely throwing around the name "Gallup". Pretty disappointing coming from someone who works for a research group. I concur that DN should charge them for the Ad space.

I do know this. #1 Nature kills. #2 We don't understand enough about climate to even get tomorrow's weather right. Then there's all the documented health problems caused by pollution. If we have the choice between poking a sleeping bear or not. I'm kinda leaning towards not.

I believe in global warming. Otherwise we would still be in the ice ages. The real question is whether mankind is having any significant effect on it. The biggest source of heat in our solar system is certainly the sun. Its hard for me to think that its variations don't have more to do with our climate changes than anything puny man can do.

Geez. And a paltry 32 years ago, Newsweek was touting that we were headed for an ice age. Same science, same scientists.

In a recent FSM survey 95% of US citizens know that any 'policy analysis' at the 'sutherland institute' is a total moron and should never be trusted. The other 5% were also morons.

"Similarly, last month a Pew survey found that only 30 percent of Americans rate dealing with global warming as a "top domestic priority," enough for last on a list of 20 possible priorities."

So, does anyone else find this math not quite right? Out of 20 choices, almost 1/3 of Americans worry about global warming more than anything else. In order for global warming to be last, the other 19 possibilities would to EACH have at least a full 1/3 (or 33%). So, according to this article, a minimum of 627% of Americans think global warming is NOT a "top domestic priority."

627% of Americans - and we are supposed to trust these guys on something as complicated as science?

Mike said: "And a paltry 32 years ago, Newsweek was touting that we were headed for an ice age. Same science, same scientists."

Yes, Newsweek ran that story.

No, that's not what most climatologists were thinking.

In 2008 the Bulletin of the American Meteorological Society published a survey (Peterson, Connelley & Fleck) of 71 peer-reviewed climate science articles published in professional science journals between 1965 and 1979. Of them 7 predicted global cooling, 20 took a neutral position (predicting neither global warming or cooling) and 44 predicted global warming.

The 1977 Global Report 2000 to the President of the United States stated, Rising CO2 concentrations are a concern because of the potential for causing a warming of the Earth.

In 1979 the National Academies of Science issued this summary of the research available: If CO2 continues to increase, there is no reason to doubt that climate change will result, and no reason to believe that these changes will be negligible.

Now, will you guy _please_ drop the inane argument about scientists in the 70s predicting and Ice Age and start paying attention to the real science?

@ Kevin. Yes Kevin, they are to dumb.

Sutherland Institute and their conservative ilk just love stinking, filthy, gunky air because to them it smells like money. I'm continually amazed at their ability to make those of us who are against filth into the "enemy."

Well, that's a relief. As long as most Utahns think there's no climate change, that must mean there isn't any climate change. Reminds me of the turkeys who think everything's just fine . . . until the day before Thanksgiving.

to buy the man made global warming crisis if it weren't for who is at the front pushing it. People that have lied to me before and I'm sure will do it again. These are people who hate freedom and love government. I really don't believe they are sincere in all that they are saying. If they were they would be on Sen. Kennedy for his opposition to wind turbines in his neighborhood as they are the oil companies for wanting to drill off the US coast. When the icons of big government, like the Kennedeys and Al Gore (with his big homes, private jets and phony carbon offsets), start getting heat then I will start to look at this as a real and not a manufactured crisis.

Utah is a beautiful place with beautiful mountains, amazing canyon lands, awesome snow, and many many places to hike and backpack. Unfortunately to spend much time breathing the "fresh air" in Utah is the equivalent of breathing in second hand smoke.
It truly does not matter if global warming is a hoax or not. What matters is our planets well being, and ultimately our own. To take care of our earth and our waste in a responsible fashion is what we should be focusing on. The issue of climate change will effect all of our lives on a large scale. It is ALL of our problem. Don't people care what happens to the polar bears drowning or birds and fish that can't breath our polluted air and water or the dieing bumble bees? The way you help is your own choice. Recycle, or buy less, and PLEASE don't get sucked into the: buy -> throw away -> work-> watch TV-> buy cycle. And please stop fighting with each other. Americans are famous for fighting about an issue with each other and then going home to dinner. Lets DO something.

One need look no further than the Sutherland Institute for proof that what we call "Think Tanks" are no such thing.
They are special interest propaganda machines.