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dearme | 10:59 p.m. April 6, 2009
well, it is kinda funny. no disrespect meant.
I couldn't help but laugh | 11:02 p.m. April 6, 2009
That's one for the journal, certainly never to be forgotten :D
A little funny | 11:27 p.m. April 6, 2009
"Nope, not this one. There's no humor in it, just a sad set of
circumstances."
Oh, come now, there's at least a little bit of humor in it. I love the general authorities, and look up to them as prophets, seers, and revelators, but this story made me laugh quite a bit.
Oh, come now, there's at least a little bit of humor in it. I love the general authorities, and look up to them as prophets, seers, and revelators, but this story made me laugh quite a bit.
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What?!? | 12:14 a.m. April 7, 2009
It feels like to me, that the student and the other editors that this mistake
got by are getting off the hook rather easily. In the real world, mistakes like
this don't get looked over with ease. I hope the student and the other
editors that didn't see this COSTLY and embarrassing mistake get fired on
the spot!
Ferguson McSqueege | 12:24 a.m. April 7, 2009
I got a copy of the original - priceless. It was an honest mistake, no need to
get up in arms about it (but I'm sure that's what will happen in
tomorrow's paper).
I laughed... | 12:34 a.m. April 7, 2009
And I have a copy. And it made me laugh a lot.
Yes it's funny | 1:23 a.m. April 7, 2009
But I sure feel bad for the student editor.
Hang in there, we still love you.
Hang in there, we still love you.
InDesign isn't perfect | 1:53 a.m. April 7, 2009
I use InDesign in my job at a small classified newspaper office. I love it, but
it isn't perfect. It can't read your mind. I'm sure the Apostles
would have even got a chuckle out of the unintentional mistake. They are not
old fuddy duddies, but do have a great sense of humor and can laugh at
themselves, as well as this error. The students should not be fired, but should
learn to double check their work, even when in a hurry. Even the best and
biggest newspapers make really big errors at times. With graduation coming, pay
attention to the articles and billboard and other signs that say
"Congradulations graduate." One of my pet peeves! (by the way, it is
congratulations) I'd say Good Job of correcting an error. Now, move on.
Rick | 4:45 a.m. April 7, 2009
Yes, don't be too hard on these students---they're students, for
goodness sakes. Fire them? They're not getting paid very much anyway, they
are doing this for the educational experience (I used to be a student
journalist, I know). Don't worry, I have no doubts that the embarrassment
here will be the greatest punishment for these poor students.
Anonymous | 6:54 a.m. April 7, 2009
Now this is funny!
Jim Liddle | 7:07 a.m. April 7, 2009
"No matter how the hollowed word was mistakenly replaced with its rogue
opposite . . ."
Ironic that this article has its own typo. The word "hollowed" should obviously be "hallowed".
Ironic that this article has its own typo. The word "hollowed" should obviously be "hallowed".
Re: Rick | 7:10 a.m. April 7, 2009
You got paid when you worked for your college paper? I sure didn't! My only
reward was seeing the articles I wrote printed in the paper, and a corresponding
grade for the class. =)
Re; What at 12:14 | 7:29 a.m. April 7, 2009
Obviously you haven't read a Dick Harmon sports article! He makes these
mistakes quite often. Sometimes even facts are "created" to support a
personal bias. Mistakes happen. Nobody is perfect. I also found it funny and
I would hope that Pres. Monson would to. (But he would want the paper pulled!)
Reminds me | 7:32 a.m. April 7, 2009
When I was a freshman at BYU back in 1991, I guess the "fashionable"
clothing was to wear a blue denim, long sleeved shirt, khaki dockers, and a
braided leather belt. I guess this made someone mad, because they wrote a
letter to the Daily Universe complaining about something else, and as a snide
comment complained about "guys wearing blue shirts". Except the
newspaper omitted the letter "r" in the word "shirt". I
thought it was hilarious, and I wish that I would have kept the paper.
As for this student, I don't think that the Quorum of the Twelve care. The person needs to be reprimanded because it probably cost the University a lot of money. But this sort of lesson is invaluable, and will make them much more careful (hence valuable) proofreader in the future.
As for this student, I don't think that the Quorum of the Twelve care. The person needs to be reprimanded because it probably cost the University a lot of money. But this sort of lesson is invaluable, and will make them much more careful (hence valuable) proofreader in the future.
ha ha | 8:25 a.m. April 7, 2009
As my husband often sez to me "you'll will like poof reading learn
how" Life is too mysterious, don't take it serious. We have all made
spelling over the years, laugh it off and get on with your day.
To: What? -good grief, it was a mistake. What happened to you, did you get lose your sense of humor?
To: What? -good grief, it was a mistake. What happened to you, did you get lose your sense of humor?
whaddaheck | 8:28 a.m. April 7, 2009
So a student, or whoever, misspelt the word "apostle"??? No way! And
then two more students (proofreaders) did not catch that? I don't believe
that. Please stop relying (no pun intended) on spell checkers, especially as
university students and especially for a common and very familiar word like
"apostle". Either that or maybe they don't know the meaning of
the word "apostate"???
By the way, as part of BYU's admission requirements now, LDS students should know how to spell "apostle" or they won't be admitted - now that's funny.
By the way, as part of BYU's admission requirements now, LDS students should know how to spell "apostle" or they won't be admitted - now that's funny.
Re: I laughed 12:34 a.m. | 8:43 a.m. April 7, 2009
Please send the copy back...........LOL!!
Anonymous | 8:47 a.m. April 7, 2009
Just hang it on the wall... it was a doosey... It deserves it honor! But of
course... BYU will just pretend it didn't happen!!!
Pretty funny stuff | 8:52 a.m. April 7, 2009
Someone please send this one to the Jay Leno show. This would be a classic for
the Headlines Segment. Ha ha ha
Trish M. | 8:52 a.m. April 7, 2009
This error is actually an excellent lesson for members: the students relied too
much on the "world" to check themselves, and then created the opposite
of what they intended.
Members should always remember that it's in the details where we can go astray from the gospel. All may look right at a quick glance, but if we don't always check ourselves against the right sources, we can all become apostates!
Members should always remember that it's in the details where we can go astray from the gospel. All may look right at a quick glance, but if we don't always check ourselves against the right sources, we can all become apostates!
Peace Out | 9:11 a.m. April 7, 2009
As a young engineer I had a structure I constructed fail during a rain storm.
The replacement costs were near $200K. I felt bad. A wizened older engineer
pulled me aside and said "Only those who have experience can avoid these
types of mistakes." I asked, "How will I get the experience?"
He responded, "By making mistakes."
Lesson learned | 9:16 a.m. April 7, 2009
The editor is at an educational institution to learn and hone her skills as a
journalist. I would say that this "proofreading" lesson will stick.
She'll be a better editor for it.
apostate apostles | 9:27 a.m. April 7, 2009
buwahahaha! Too funny.
Apostle's Reaction | 9:35 a.m. April 7, 2009
If these men are the type of men I believe they are, they will get a kick out of
this but also hope those involved learn to be even better at their craft from
this mistake. I do believe that those at fault should be disciplined (not
terminated) simply for the fact that a mistake cost the department a
considerable amount to fix. But any discipline should not be tied to the word
"apostate" but rather to the fact that a preventable editing mistake
resulted in financial consequences. If a different mistake or word had caused
the same financial loss they would likely be disciplined. It is called
accountability but they should not be treated any differently based on the
actual word or perceived embarrasement. Any bets that a copy will find its way
to Jay Leno and his weekly newspaper errors piece?
Henry Drummond | 9:43 a.m. April 7, 2009
If it will make this student feel any better...
I once wrote a program that produced a report for BYU to be sent to all students. Unfortunately there was a bug in the program that pulled the wrong address for almost all the students. It caused thousands and thousands of cases of "return to sender". There were huge canvass bags of the envelopes all around the office.
Just like in this case, other people who were supposed to be checking these things didn't do it because I was always so reliable. :-) We had a laugh over it and were more careful the second time.
I hope everyone can do the same with this problem. Welcome to the world of being human.
I once wrote a program that produced a report for BYU to be sent to all students. Unfortunately there was a bug in the program that pulled the wrong address for almost all the students. It caused thousands and thousands of cases of "return to sender". There were huge canvass bags of the envelopes all around the office.
Just like in this case, other people who were supposed to be checking these things didn't do it because I was always so reliable. :-) We had a laugh over it and were more careful the second time.
I hope everyone can do the same with this problem. Welcome to the world of being human.
To Trish M | 9:49 a.m. April 7, 2009
You just wrote the headline for a talk in next General Conference. The GAs LOVE
to use real life stories that contain a little humor to highlight their message.
With this being so public the Church has no choice but to spin this with a bit
of humor. At least I hope they do.
I have enjoyed finding humor in our very unique and often quirky LDS culture. I know some members who take defense at anyone or anything that poke fun at our culture. But there is actually an awful lot to both love and laugh at as Mormons. I think this is just another one that should be filed away in the humorous file. Those who take this too seriously will unfortunately play into the steroetype of defensiveness and thin-skin that too many already see within Mormonism.
Hey BYU Editor - time to lighten up a bit on this one!! Yes, your student employees need to learn from this but please don't let this add to the uptight, defensive stereotype we do not want to have as a Church.
I have enjoyed finding humor in our very unique and often quirky LDS culture. I know some members who take defense at anyone or anything that poke fun at our culture. But there is actually an awful lot to both love and laugh at as Mormons. I think this is just another one that should be filed away in the humorous file. Those who take this too seriously will unfortunately play into the steroetype of defensiveness and thin-skin that too many already see within Mormonism.
Hey BYU Editor - time to lighten up a bit on this one!! Yes, your student employees need to learn from this but please don't let this add to the uptight, defensive stereotype we do not want to have as a Church.
Oops... | 10:59 a.m. April 7, 2009
Pulling the issue from the stands created a lot more attention than it would
have otherwise. If they had just made a simple correction in today's issue,
it wouldn't have been such a big deal. Now every apostate (in the true
sense of the word) in Utah is offering money for a copy to hang on their wall.
Just look at the comments on the Tribune story. I personally think it's
kind of funny. Mistakes happen. I'm saving my copy, and I'm certainly
not auctioning it off on eBay.
Eleanor Knowles | 11:09 a.m. April 7, 2009
I can empathize with these students; having had the same experience.
My first entry level job (30 years ago) was as a typesetter. One of our clients was Deseret Book. We got a fancy new Mergenthaler Linotype machine from Germany. One of its features was a spellchecker (which was new state-of-the-art technology at the time). They evidently weren't aware of the word "Mormon", though.
The very first project I did, the machine systematically changed the world "Mormon" to "moron" all the way through the manuscript. I didn't catch it until after the galley proofs had been delivered to Deseret Book.
Talk about mortifying!
(And, no, I still to this day don't use spellcheckers.)
My first entry level job (30 years ago) was as a typesetter. One of our clients was Deseret Book. We got a fancy new Mergenthaler Linotype machine from Germany. One of its features was a spellchecker (which was new state-of-the-art technology at the time). They evidently weren't aware of the word "Mormon", though.
The very first project I did, the machine systematically changed the world "Mormon" to "moron" all the way through the manuscript. I didn't catch it until after the galley proofs had been delivered to Deseret Book.
Talk about mortifying!
(And, no, I still to this day don't use spellcheckers.)
Mingjai | 11:11 a.m. April 7, 2009
"Evans said the typo won't hang on his well-known office wall of
errors where other newspaper mistakes go to live in infamy. 'Nope, not this
one. There's no humor in it, just a sad set of
circumstances.'"
Wow, I was laughing through the whole article until I saw this. Brother Evans needs to chill a little--he sounds like one of those I'm-glad-I-don't-work-for-him types.
Wow, I was laughing through the whole article until I saw this. Brother Evans needs to chill a little--he sounds like one of those I'm-glad-I-don't-work-for-him types.
Spell check is tricky | 11:35 a.m. April 7, 2009
Ah huh huh! Well, I hope the gal that made the spelling error, with spell check,
doesn't get excommunicated. She was just messen around. However, I done the
same thing many times.
Gotta' Laugh! | 11:43 a.m. April 7, 2009
LOL! That IS kind of funny. My money says that the 12 Apostles had a laugh over
it too!
Things happen. I hope the person who made the mistake will be more diligent (and I'm sure they will be).
Signed -
A dyed-in-the-wool-true-blue-through-and-through, 6th generation, active Latter-day Saint.
PS - Don't let the anti's or the overly uptight members ruin your day. The Lord will win in the end. The caravan moves on!
Things happen. I hope the person who made the mistake will be more diligent (and I'm sure they will be).
Signed -
A dyed-in-the-wool-true-blue-through-and-through, 6th generation, active Latter-day Saint.
PS - Don't let the anti's or the overly uptight members ruin your day. The Lord will win in the end. The caravan moves on!
John Harvey | 12:02 p.m. April 7, 2009
I would be willing to bet most of the First Presidency and the Quorum of the
Twelve laughed when they first heard the story. I know I sure did.
I would love to get a copy of the paper, but I doubt any one who currently has one would be willing to part with it.
I would love to get a copy of the paper, but I doubt any one who currently has one would be willing to part with it.
Oh My! | 12:18 p.m. April 7, 2009
Wow, BYU students made mistakes....I don't believe it!!
Frank Castle | 12:24 p.m. April 7, 2009
This would NEVER happen in the Daily Utah Chronicle.
President Monson was a printer | 12:29 p.m. April 7, 2009
and a publisher. I'll bet he got a kick out of this...
John | 1:10 p.m. April 7, 2009
Honestly, if we can't laugh at this, what can we do with it? Sing hail
marys? Don a few rosaries?
Anyone who can find zero humor in this must lead quite the frustrating life. Since it truly was an error and no disrespect was meant, I can't see why anyone would be so glum.
If anyone were to be excommunicated over a mistake, something is seriously wrong here. I make mistakes every day. So does this "serious," humorless editor.
Anyone who can find zero humor in this must lead quite the frustrating life. Since it truly was an error and no disrespect was meant, I can't see why anyone would be so glum.
If anyone were to be excommunicated over a mistake, something is seriously wrong here. I make mistakes every day. So does this "serious," humorless editor.
Anonymous | 1:34 p.m. April 7, 2009
The Lord works in mysterious ways to reveal the Truth!
I'm just sayin'
I'm just sayin'
News Dawg | 1:39 p.m. April 7, 2009
- Mingjai
It's a shame you deduce a person's entire content and character based on a single quote. I happen to know Rich Evans is a light-hearted, humorous man who is usually the first to laugh at such situations. (He's also go a wicked spiral on the football field.)
- Frank Castle
Yeah, you're right, the Chrony would never accidentally insert "apostate" -- they'd do it intentionally while fitting in as many f-words as possible.
It's a shame you deduce a person's entire content and character based on a single quote. I happen to know Rich Evans is a light-hearted, humorous man who is usually the first to laugh at such situations. (He's also go a wicked spiral on the football field.)
- Frank Castle
Yeah, you're right, the Chrony would never accidentally insert "apostate" -- they'd do it intentionally while fitting in as many f-words as possible.
Molly Mornotaman | 1:54 p.m. April 7, 2009
The shameless Daily Universe editors should never refer to the Lord's
annointed as apostates. How could this ever happen at the Y? It's another
sign of the times. I will continue to be diligent in my beliefs despite the
"Judas's" that reside at once proud BYU. Who can you trust
nowdays?? What's next, the First Soothsayers of the church??
Stuart | 1:57 p.m. April 7, 2009
The devil was in the spell checker!
re: Frank Castle | 2:07 p.m. April 7, 2009
You mean the Chrony would never pull its papers off the rack if it made a
mistake like this? Or do you mean the Chrony wouldn't have gotten this kind
of attention for a mistake like this?
dopes | 2:09 p.m. April 7, 2009
well if the shoe fits wear it ..LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Jay | 2:16 p.m. April 7, 2009
"No humor in this at all"? Come on, I'll bet even the most
sober of the twelve cracked a smile at this one. We've been counseled to
laugh at ourselves. This is one of those times. No one will be EX'd over
this.
Jody | 2:29 p.m. April 7, 2009
As others have said, I'm sure the Quorum of the Twelve Apostles and the
First Presidency will get a kick out of it. Brother Evans really needs to
lighten up -- has he never made an innocent mistake?
Anonymous | 3:12 p.m. April 7, 2009
I thought BYU was above reproach.
olderthandirt | 3:41 p.m. April 7, 2009
Re:Poor Gotta Laugh??????? Man, I bet everyone was impresssed with your
"dyed in the wool....................gooooooooooo!
So typical! LOL
So typical! LOL
Rich Loves Gates | 3:57 p.m. April 7, 2009
Mistakes can be funny for the paper when you can print a correction the next day
and it doesn't affect many people. But when you have to go around and pull
all of the papers, answer to your superiors and send a letter of apology to LDS
HQ, I imagine it doesn't end up being too funny (although I'm positive
Bro. Evans got at least one chuckle out of it before the other things had to
take place).
Ace | 4:08 p.m. April 7, 2009
I still have my diploma with "University" spelled wrong and I laugh
about it. Making a big deal about this only bring more attention to a simple
mistake. Relax folks? The sun still appeared over the Wasatch the next
morning!
rightascension | 4:11 p.m. April 7, 2009
This gaffe rates with such legendary newspaper boo-boos as Dewey defeats Truman
and Governor Thompsons pen is a sword.
I read the official apology the Universe posted calling The 12 Apostates a "typographical error."
I also read Carri Jenkin's damage control statement to the effect that the typo, which replaced "apostle" with a virtual antonym, was an honest mistake and that no BYU or LDS administrator has sought to punish those responsible for the mistake. The newspaper and Department of Communications staff will handle the problem
Typographical error my foot.
The Universe cannot get away with this outrage by trying to define it a "typographical error."
Where were the Universe editors? A personal insult / Freudian slip of this magnitude takes planning, especially when a paper should have multiple errors . .. . uh, editors to catch such Freudian slip / "Typographical errors."
I read the official apology the Universe posted calling The 12 Apostates a "typographical error."
I also read Carri Jenkin's damage control statement to the effect that the typo, which replaced "apostle" with a virtual antonym, was an honest mistake and that no BYU or LDS administrator has sought to punish those responsible for the mistake. The newspaper and Department of Communications staff will handle the problem
Typographical error my foot.
The Universe cannot get away with this outrage by trying to define it a "typographical error."
Where were the Universe editors? A personal insult / Freudian slip of this magnitude takes planning, especially when a paper should have multiple errors . .. . uh, editors to catch such Freudian slip / "Typographical errors."
Alba | 5:09 p.m. April 7, 2009
I add my support to those who agree that the Quorum of the Twelve have a
tremendous sense of humor. President Monson worked in advertising for the
Deseret News...I am sure he can got a laugh out of this. Yes those involved
should be reprimanded...it was a costly mistake financially...but to say that
there is no humor in it is just false...that is what you say for damage control.
No need to fire those involved...just let them learn a lesson, be more careful
next time, and move on. I am sure they are embarassed and concerned for their
jobs enough. --- I am not even sure it was worth recalling all the papers. ---
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