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Traces of explosives in 9/11 dust, scientists say
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There are literally dozens of news reports of firemen, victims and reporters reporting dozens of secondary explosions.
The buildings collapsed into subbasements 6stories deep.
47 central steel columns were completely obliterated. Why, if the "pancake theory" is true are they not sticking up in the air like a record spindle?
Jet fuel is primarily kerosene. It burns at 1400* It takes 2000* to melt steel
Newton's 2nd law of thermodynamics pretty much tells us that steel structures 2000 feet high cannot just collapse into their own footprint in 10 seconds.
No steel frame highrise has EVER collapsed due to fire. On that day 3 came down.
WTC 7 was not hit by a plane and had only small fires when it collapsed just like 1and2 at 5:20 PM. The BBC reports its collapse live WHILE THE BUILDING IS STILL STANDING!
I could go on but I'm out of time. Google it. This is a no brainer. Unfortunately so is 30% of American Society
So many irrational twoofers.
Let ME explain.As we were told,on 9/11, everything changed.
In a post 9/11 world,scattered office fires,as NIST has told us, can now collapse skyscrapers symmetrically straight down at freefall speed.As happened on 9/11 to WTC 7,the 47 story skyscraper which was not even hit by a plane.Why would anyone in their right mind even question this?
In a post 9/11 world:
Nano engineered super thermite produced in hidden caves,or any explosives for that matter,are NO LONGER NECESSARY to completely collapse skyscrapers!Al Qaeda also has waged jihad against controlled demolition companies as they are no longer needed anymore.One has only to light a fire to collapse a building now.
And by the way,the 118 firefighters on the record,the late Barry Jennings,William Rodriguez or any other person who claims to have witnessed explosions on 9/11,are just lying freedom haters who want the terrists to win.Only governments or corporations can be trusted to tell the truth.Those WMDs are somewhere!
SHEESH...
Reveille anyone?
-J. Edgar Hoover
Director of the FBI
I worked in aerospace. I have seen Kapton survive 15 hours at 800 degrees in a burn out oven. Not one engineer believed the tank story. Jet fuel is like diesel fuel. It doesn't just vaporize and explode.
The word "pull" is NEVER used anywhere in the demolition industry to describe the use of explosives to bring down a building.
Furthermore, it has already been proven well in advance of the release of Jones and Harrits paper (which was never peer-reviewed) that thermal expansion due to the 1,000+ degree fires was the cause of the collapse of WTC7.
I am surprised this was not mentioned in this article.
Seriously, if the more volatile (ie more reactionary) thermite was present in the building, wouldn't it have exploded sooner? The professor does not explain this obvious point.
Unfortunately, it seems, people only want to hear what they believe.
This is what I've been told by members of my local fire department.
Structural steel not only loses more than 80% of it's strength at that temperature, but there is also the expansion involved. When you run a jar under hot water from your tap, you can induce enough expansion for the lid to pop off. Imagine how much expansion you get from a much bigger piece of metal at 1600 degrees hotter.
(2) The fire retardant sprayed on the metal skeleton was not chemically-created (code) to withstand the higher heat generated from jet fuel. Jet fuel would burn through the retardant and act directly on the metal.
(3) The burn time was long enough to weaken the girders and pins to the point the girders could sag enough to pop off the pins at any of their endpoints.
Again, if there were explosives planted on the floors, in and of themselves they would not have brought down the World Trade Center towers. And again, the explosions were not necessary to bring down the towers. So, really, having explosives is of no statistical significance. Also, wouldn't they have exploded when the plane hit the building...and not when the building fell one floor on top of another an hour later(remember, no internal supports)?
Would the porfessor please explain why these types of explosions were not seen by eyewitnesses? That would be my very first question. Thanks.
Fact - Simple structural fires reach temps that compromise steel.
Fact - While the towers were designed to resist an airliner impact, the original designers admit that they did not take into account the amount of fuel delivered on this day.
Fact - The collapse is not attributed (by the experts) to a SINGLE contributor. Fire + Structural damage + Design elements are all involved.
Fact - Dr. Jones' last "peer reviews" have not been "peer reviewed" by the community at large, but in rather some questionable "journals"
Fact - Dr. Jones quit the University on the eve of his work being peer reviewed BY HIS PEERS.
Opinion - The collection of materials for this latest, greatest work is suspect at best.
Opinion - Barring expert testimony, I believe a "thin layer" of thermite, nano or not, is insufficient to deamage beam that "truthers" insist are airliner and fire proof..........
But, that is just a teeny list of problems I have with the usual "truther" claims........
Plenty of claim, precious little truth.
There are many video's showing explosions other than the planes, and many eyewitness accounts, including firemen, that heard and saw other explosions. There are video's of building 7 collapsing just like a controlled demolition, but you don't mention these... contradicting YOUR theory.
What "they" would need to do, is not a part of Dr. Jones evidence. Your conjectures are ludicrous. The point is, there was NO criminal investigation, and no forensics investigation.
But hey, continue to believe that a guy in a cave disabled all of NORAD, the FCC, the Pentagon, the CIA, the FBI... that's the least believable conspiracy theory of them all.
Fact: Building 7 was hit by no plane.
Fact: The original designers said that the twin towers could withstand, "several airline impacts, like a pencil embedded in a screen window."
Fact: Your "experts" work for the government.
Fact: Peer reviews are by "peers", not the "community at large". Whatever that means.
Fact: Dr. Jones was asked to step done or lose his retirement..
Fact: Scientific facts are not suspect, merely interpretations.
Fact: Thermite in great quantities is much more sufficient in imploding skyscrapers.
Fact: NIST is the only company that has made "nano-thermite", or "spray-on" thermate.
Get your facts right Amazed and Amused. For you have neither claim nor truth.
Anyone want to test it?
Let me know in advance if you would like any other materials to show up in the sample--I can add them for a small fee.
Ridiculous!!
A. I might be white but I definitely am more left-leaning than right.
B. none of my co-workers believe the government story either and I am the only white guy in the dept.
C. The fact that your mind automatically jumps to generalizations and accusations of racism is telling.
D. The only commonality that I have been able to see amongst truthers is that we tend to be part of the younger generation. I'm assuming that this has to do with the fact that we've grown up with the internet and are generally more likely to attempt to check out stories against verifiable scientific data.
BTW, there were many firemen and policemen who testifed that they heard multiple explosions on the site on 9-11-2001. Note, also, the massive insider trading that occurred just prior to the disaster. SOMEONE knew this was going to happen...and I don't mean some crazy Arabs with box-cutters!
While not wanting to believe in a conspiracy I do think it strange that a building which was never touched by even another building was able to be taken down by order without any preparation. It normally takes weeks of planning and execution to make this kind of thing happen.
Also, suppose there was a possibility that the weakened floors were falling because of the heat of the kerosene/jet fuel. (This is highly doubtful because of kerosene's low burning temperature) Just ask yourself why would the vertical pillars fall at the same rate? They should have been standing there naked like the internal skeleton they were designed to be. The pillars were not touched by kerosene or flame. You can strip all the branches off a tree yet the trunk still stands. How is this different?
Conspiracy or no. There are a lot of strange coincidences.
Also I have no reason to believe the media. Especially when I saw the impossible with my own eyes.
The Book of Mormon (and Pres. Benson) talks a lot about a secret combination that wants control of the world. The Book of Mormon also has a story that shows how 9/11 could have been pulled off (there's an internet article about insights Amalickiah can give us on 9/11). Many witnesses and whistleblowers support Jones' theory.
For example, how could phone calls be made from an airplane traveling that fast, before the technology came out that allowed it to be done? How were all the black boxes destroyed, but a passport of one of the hijackers floated to the sidewalk in perfect condition?
The work of Christopher Bollyn, rense, and many more, give evidence after evidence that the official 911 story is full of holes.
There is a conspiracy, and it is to overthrow American freedom. 9/11 was just a small part of that conspiracy.
For more info on Jones and the report, search the internet!
Kudos to Deseret News for writing and publishing this piece!! Freedom still has a voice in at least one American newspaper!
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