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Traces of explosives in 9/11 dust, scientists say
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Psychology | 7:28 p.m. April 8, 2009
The label "conspiracy theorist" has been used a lot these past few
years. It wouldn't surprise me if, in the fairly near future, we have a
formal psychological term for "denialism" or something to that
effect.
Skyhawk_maintainer | 7:43 p.m. April 8, 2009
Ive seen films and videos of buildings that werent brought down as
professionally as the WTC towers. If it were as easy to do this by using an
asymmetrical force to gain the same symmetrical results as what is now being
done with planning and prepositioned explosives, why bother with demolitions
experts any more? Anybody who supports the official government story must
believe that demolition experts are no longer necessary to pull down large
structures, as they can be replaced by large aircraft flown by remote control.
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Psychology | 8:24 p.m. April 8, 2009
For any who haven't yet read the paper, notice especially figure 30 on page
27, which illustrates the energy release of the red/gray chips and compares this
with the energy release of conventional explosives.
Showing the illustration to a few (or more) friends seems like a good idea as well.
Heck...why stop there? Point it out to some media outlets also.
Cheers to DesNews for getting this started.
Showing the illustration to a few (or more) friends seems like a good idea as well.
Heck...why stop there? Point it out to some media outlets also.
Cheers to DesNews for getting this started.
Anonymous | 9:16 p.m. April 8, 2009
As has been pointed out, this article barely scratches the surface. Do the
research, there are over 400 scientists and scholars who support Dr. Jones.
There were many fire drills and other excuses to evacuate the buildings in the
days leading up to 911. It wouldn't take that many people to plant
explosives, and it is not that hard to keep them shut up about it, especially if
family members are threatened. The biggest thing the powers behind this have
going for them is the belief by the majority that it is impossible and crazy for
anyone to believe our own government was behind this. In my opinion, the
evidence for 911 conspiracy far exceeds JFK, Pearl Harbor, UFO's combined.
The evidence is overwhelming and undeniable.
Anonymous | 12:22 a.m. April 9, 2009
This is the "smoking Gun" the "Conservatives" did'nt
want to revealed!
The weapons of mass destruction were really in the hands of the Politicians.
The weapons of mass destruction were really in the hands of the Politicians.
True American. | 1:53 a.m. April 9, 2009
LOL what evidence is there? If you really believe that it is soem conspiracy,
then please, move out of the country. Men and Women are dying for freedom, and
those 3000 people that died that day died in honor. So to you that believe this
BYU nut and think that its a conspiracy, move out of the country.
Anonymous | 1:56 a.m. April 9, 2009
Im sure the people who died in the 9/11 attacks would be doing flips in their
graves if they heard about this conspiracy. Shame on those who believe it was
the US government.
Let's see | 5:49 a.m. April 9, 2009
. . . thermite is a mixture of aluminum powder and iron or steel powder. And
these buildings were made of . . . aluminum and steel? And large parts of them
were pulverized in the fall?
Hmmmmm.
What would be startling is if we DIDN'T find "thermite" in the wreckage.
This guy is a crank.
Hmmmmm.
What would be startling is if we DIDN'T find "thermite" in the wreckage.
This guy is a crank.
USA...USA...USA | 6:05 a.m. April 9, 2009
@True American & Anonymous above.
Now you get it.We must unite and go murder for the expanding federal government.Our freedom is derived from aggressive preemptive undeclared war,NOT from natural Rights from the consent of the governed.
Nothing honors the victims of 9/11 more than constantly invoking their names to justify our forgein policy of freedom. (spreading democracy)
Evidence is for terrists!Shame on them for using reasoning,logic and science.
Now you get it.We must unite and go murder for the expanding federal government.Our freedom is derived from aggressive preemptive undeclared war,NOT from natural Rights from the consent of the governed.
Nothing honors the victims of 9/11 more than constantly invoking their names to justify our forgein policy of freedom. (spreading democracy)
Evidence is for terrists!Shame on them for using reasoning,logic and science.
Re: Let's See | 6:56 a.m. April 9, 2009
". . .thermite is a mixture of aluminum powder and iron or steel powder.
And these buildings were made of . . . aluminum and steel? And large parts of
them were pulverized in the fall?"
You don't know what thermite is. Basic thermite is an incendiary consisting of, for example, a finely grained mixture of Fe2O3 (Iron-Oxide) and Al (Aluminium). Normal thermite has a very high ignition point. However, the red/gray chips found in the WTC-dust are nanocomposites, in other words, a very finely grained (on the nanometer scale, obviously) explosive (no longer incendiary) mixture with a much lower ignition point. This is high-tech military stuff, patented a few years before 2001. It can be sprayed onto surfaces if desired. It can be applied in sol-gel form.
It has a comparable or even higher energy release than explosives such as e.g. TNT and RDX, some of which are used for building demolitions.
Red/Gray chips with a complex nanomatrix structure do NOT suddenly materialize out of 'collapsing' aluminium cladding and steel beams. Who are you calling a crank, dummy?
You don't know what thermite is. Basic thermite is an incendiary consisting of, for example, a finely grained mixture of Fe2O3 (Iron-Oxide) and Al (Aluminium). Normal thermite has a very high ignition point. However, the red/gray chips found in the WTC-dust are nanocomposites, in other words, a very finely grained (on the nanometer scale, obviously) explosive (no longer incendiary) mixture with a much lower ignition point. This is high-tech military stuff, patented a few years before 2001. It can be sprayed onto surfaces if desired. It can be applied in sol-gel form.
It has a comparable or even higher energy release than explosives such as e.g. TNT and RDX, some of which are used for building demolitions.
Red/Gray chips with a complex nanomatrix structure do NOT suddenly materialize out of 'collapsing' aluminium cladding and steel beams. Who are you calling a crank, dummy?
Anonymous | 7:14 a.m. April 9, 2009
Bogus Claims | 7:23 a.m. April 7, 2009 You are WAY off. There are eye witnesses
who heard explosions and there are explosive noises recorded BEFORE the planes
hit. PLEASE do some research.
Stevan Madrigal | 7:40 a.m. April 9, 2009
Well done, Dr. Jones et. al., Hard science will continue and finally the truth
will be known. There cannot be dispute over facts and then justice will
follow.
a/e 911 truth.
a/e 911 truth.
re: "True American" | 7:45 a.m. April 9, 2009
...You said -- twice, if you don't like it, leave i.e., "move out of
the country".
Boy, that is pure Sheeple mentality! That is exactly the kind of patsy, dumbing down of America big Government has worked for decades to achieve.
And congratulations for letting someone else do all your critical thinking for you. That was precisely what our Founding Fathers had in mind, NOT.
As a True American myself, I love the fact that WE can still search, ponder and pray to find truth for ourselves from other sources...rather than relying on the Wolf Blitzer(s) and other media talking-heads to form our realities.
Thank You DesNews for reporting and letting "We the People" decide.
Boy, that is pure Sheeple mentality! That is exactly the kind of patsy, dumbing down of America big Government has worked for decades to achieve.
And congratulations for letting someone else do all your critical thinking for you. That was precisely what our Founding Fathers had in mind, NOT.
As a True American myself, I love the fact that WE can still search, ponder and pray to find truth for ourselves from other sources...rather than relying on the Wolf Blitzer(s) and other media talking-heads to form our realities.
Thank You DesNews for reporting and letting "We the People" decide.
Bill Duke | 8:08 a.m. April 9, 2009
Jessica | 9:16 a.m. April 8, 2009 One may conclude that one "does not
know". In my opinion, this is resignation and takes us NO WHERE. Better to
say, "Re-open a true investigation of 9/11 and get to the truth as best we
can discover it given that a crime of immense proportion was committed in the
WILLFUL DESTRUCTION OF EVIDENCE. Many committed "truthers" have lost
their careers, refusing to accept the official story and say. "we
don't know.
Sittin-Bull | 8:09 a.m. April 9, 2009
@ Let's see:
aluminum and steel? And large parts of them were pulverized in the fall?
How do you pulverize aluminum and steel with simple gravity? Ever looked at some earthquakes pictures (where energy is added by shaking ground) and thus following gravity collapses? You bet if one can find any pulverized aluminum, steel or concrete to a fine grade in them.
aluminum and steel? And large parts of them were pulverized in the fall?
How do you pulverize aluminum and steel with simple gravity? Ever looked at some earthquakes pictures (where energy is added by shaking ground) and thus following gravity collapses? You bet if one can find any pulverized aluminum, steel or concrete to a fine grade in them.
Another Australian | 8:57 a.m. April 9, 2009
This article got a bit of play here in Oz I see.
Congrats to this newspaper for running the article and enabling Dr Jones to post comments here.
I find him reasonable and balanced and enjoy his research.
Perhaps you could feature him more often.
I like that he avoids speculating on who/ what/ why, and just keeps it to the technical aspects within his sphere of education.
Yes the thought of "who" becomes troubling (if- as it appears there were explosives in the buildings), but ours is not to prove one way or another, rather, simply to ask those professing the "official" line to consider new lines of research and greater transparency in the "official" conclusion.
For mine, the smoking gun was Building 7. It was 200metres away and 47 stories....into....its....own.....footprint. Thats what got me interested.
Plus the comments from teh buildings own designer that he designed for airplane crash (not to forget the fuel burned_outside_ the building on one of them)
Congrats to this newspaper for running the article and enabling Dr Jones to post comments here.
I find him reasonable and balanced and enjoy his research.
Perhaps you could feature him more often.
I like that he avoids speculating on who/ what/ why, and just keeps it to the technical aspects within his sphere of education.
Yes the thought of "who" becomes troubling (if- as it appears there were explosives in the buildings), but ours is not to prove one way or another, rather, simply to ask those professing the "official" line to consider new lines of research and greater transparency in the "official" conclusion.
For mine, the smoking gun was Building 7. It was 200metres away and 47 stories....into....its....own.....footprint. Thats what got me interested.
Plus the comments from teh buildings own designer that he designed for airplane crash (not to forget the fuel burned_outside_ the building on one of them)
Question | 11:38 a.m. April 9, 2009
EVERYTHING!
Concerned Citizen | 11:50 a.m. April 9, 2009
How fortunate for governments that the people they administer don't think.
--Adolf Hitler
Unthinking respect for authority is the greatest enemy of truth. --Albert Einstein
If we do not act, we are acted upon. --George Orwell
-----------------
Believers of the official conspiracy theory should ask themselves two questions:
(1) If they were asked to prove the official conspiracy theory, would they be able to?
(2) What is it that makes them have hissy fits against people who vocalize their discovery of and support for evidence that does not agree with their yet unproven conspiracy theory?
Unthinking respect for authority is the greatest enemy of truth. --Albert Einstein
If we do not act, we are acted upon. --George Orwell
-----------------
Believers of the official conspiracy theory should ask themselves two questions:
(1) If they were asked to prove the official conspiracy theory, would they be able to?
(2) What is it that makes them have hissy fits against people who vocalize their discovery of and support for evidence that does not agree with their yet unproven conspiracy theory?
Wow | 12:09 p.m. April 9, 2009
True American, you ask "What evidence is there?"
You could begin by reading the new paper itself. It's easy to access.
Once you've done that, I can direct you to a whole lot more.
Your patriotism and love of country are not questioned by me.
You could begin by reading the new paper itself. It's easy to access.
Once you've done that, I can direct you to a whole lot more.
Your patriotism and love of country are not questioned by me.
2BFree | 1:26 p.m. April 9, 2009
I want to thank the Deseret News for this article. Dr. Jones and the other
authors of this paper have risked their good names and careers to research this
ON THEIR OWN with their own money to answer the myriad of unanswered questions
ignored by the government studies/cover up. I am renewing my subscription
because of this article.
Contributions? | 1:40 p.m. April 9, 2009
Where can one make contributions to continuing research?
Wow | 2:06 p.m. April 9, 2009
To: Anonymous (1:56 AM):
If I were killed in the 911 tragedy, and I maintained some kind of awareness (spiritual, etc) afterward, I believe I would like it to be known to people just who it was that participated in the mass-murder, both those directly as well as those indirectly involved.
For the sake of those people murdered, for their spirits, and for their relatives and friends, let us continue to seek the truth.
If I were killed in the 911 tragedy, and I maintained some kind of awareness (spiritual, etc) afterward, I believe I would like it to be known to people just who it was that participated in the mass-murder, both those directly as well as those indirectly involved.
For the sake of those people murdered, for their spirits, and for their relatives and friends, let us continue to seek the truth.
Re: Contributions | 2:24 p.m. April 9, 2009
ae911truth would be the most deserving of contributions - professionals
dedicated to the us of science to find out why and how, not necessarily by whom.
Jerry Fletcher | 2:27 p.m. April 9, 2009
re: secret | 12:56 p.m. April 8, 2009
How 'bout the Gadianton Robbers on Wall St?
>> Also, President Hinckley said the terrorists belonged to the very secret combination that the book of mormon says will exist in the latter days.
Also, Pres. Benson said long ago that the communists were also members of that secret combination.<<
How is this for a conspiracy; The current boogeymen (@ that time) as declared by our government is validated by the Church. I guess Qadafi then & Chaves now did not maske the cut? I
Isn't it funny that the evangelical right & mainstream conservative thought are at odds w/ the LDS church or are they? I guess we'll have to wait until Dan Brown's new novel comes out to really truly find out.
How 'bout the Gadianton Robbers on Wall St?
>> Also, President Hinckley said the terrorists belonged to the very secret combination that the book of mormon says will exist in the latter days.
Also, Pres. Benson said long ago that the communists were also members of that secret combination.<<
How is this for a conspiracy; The current boogeymen (@ that time) as declared by our government is validated by the Church. I guess Qadafi then & Chaves now did not maske the cut? I
Isn't it funny that the evangelical right & mainstream conservative thought are at odds w/ the LDS church or are they? I guess we'll have to wait until Dan Brown's new novel comes out to really truly find out.
DC52 | 2:29 p.m. April 9, 2009
you can follow the fear or follow the Question.
capelipl | 2:39 p.m. April 9, 2009
the great tragedy of the 911 false flag event motivates truth seeking citizens
in nations around the world, it is time for the govts of israel and america to
clean house and stop shielding mass murderers in their midst, flag flag attacks
on innocent civilians, murders of activists and the disregard for the health
crisis of first responders must stop. the world demands it and citizen trust in
government will not return until the 911 false flag mass murder is put behind us
.
911 truth ends war
911 truth ends war
Wow | 2:59 p.m. April 9, 2009
To: capelipl: Thank you for what you said:
"911 truth ends war."
That is concise and beautiful. THAT statement of yours captures the most important part of all this. We do need to know who. But in order to find who, we need to find what and how. Who is important because:
1)Justice can then be more properly meted out.
2)If the current Middle East wars are found to be based on lies, they can perhaps be stopped, and further wars in this matter can be prevented.
"911 truth ends war."
That is concise and beautiful. THAT statement of yours captures the most important part of all this. We do need to know who. But in order to find who, we need to find what and how. Who is important because:
1)Justice can then be more properly meted out.
2)If the current Middle East wars are found to be based on lies, they can perhaps be stopped, and further wars in this matter can be prevented.
Wow | 3:11 p.m. April 9, 2009
If YOU were killed on 911, would you want vengeance to be taken on the wrong
people?
Kris | 4:18 p.m. April 9, 2009
Why wasn't this printed in the physical paper? This should be FRONT PAGE
NEWS!
I appreciate you writing this article, but PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE print this! Even if it is in the local section like it is here!
This completely blows the official commission theory out of this atmosphere!
Even IF somehow a bunch of angry Arabs pulled of 911 on their own merit, which I doubt, it cannot be argued that the Bush administration did everything in their power to take advantage of these attacks to expand government control and begin the destruction of our basic rights outlined in the constitution. Where should I start? Warrantless spying through communication networks? Suspension of Habeas Corpus? Degradation of posse comitatus and expanding continuity of government?
Don't start on the "Terrorists have no rights". If you're a human being you have rights. Its stated in the Declaration of Independence. You take rights away from one group, there is no reason to not take that right away from you, or your family. That is dangerous in the hands of a corrupt government (like we obviously have).
This changes EVERYTHING! PLEASE PLEASE PRINT THIS ARTICLE!
I appreciate you writing this article, but PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE print this! Even if it is in the local section like it is here!
This completely blows the official commission theory out of this atmosphere!
Even IF somehow a bunch of angry Arabs pulled of 911 on their own merit, which I doubt, it cannot be argued that the Bush administration did everything in their power to take advantage of these attacks to expand government control and begin the destruction of our basic rights outlined in the constitution. Where should I start? Warrantless spying through communication networks? Suspension of Habeas Corpus? Degradation of posse comitatus and expanding continuity of government?
Don't start on the "Terrorists have no rights". If you're a human being you have rights. Its stated in the Declaration of Independence. You take rights away from one group, there is no reason to not take that right away from you, or your family. That is dangerous in the hands of a corrupt government (like we obviously have).
This changes EVERYTHING! PLEASE PLEASE PRINT THIS ARTICLE!
truthseeds - Good journalism! | 4:41 p.m. April 9, 2009
After I awoke to our awful situation a couple years ago, it was upsetting to
notice the corporate-controlled media was a propaganda machine.
Yellow-journalism is the norm in regards to 911, the Iraq War, health freedoms
and Ron Paul etc. I canceled our newspapers, magazines, satellite TV and began
voting with my money and studying freedom etc. Starve the Gadiantons! Articles
such as this do restore some of my trust and confidence in journalism. Thank
you.
In 1983, 50 corporations controlled the vast majority of all news media in the U.S. Now it is all controlled by 5 corporations with conflicts of interest. Why do the corporate media act as cheerleaders for war? The national networks, NBCCBSABCFOXCNNMSNBC, most newspapers, magazines and the smaller cable channels, are owned, funded, and controlled by an interconnected network of large corporate conglomerates and international banking interests, which manipulates and filters out news that does not fit their corporate agenda.
There is also the Pentagon's manipulation of 911 news and Iraq war news by spoon-feeding talking points and manipulating talking points and infiltrating the already corrupt media.
Fact-check, use alternative news sources, question all, research, study, ponder, pray...
In 1983, 50 corporations controlled the vast majority of all news media in the U.S. Now it is all controlled by 5 corporations with conflicts of interest. Why do the corporate media act as cheerleaders for war? The national networks, NBCCBSABCFOXCNNMSNBC, most newspapers, magazines and the smaller cable channels, are owned, funded, and controlled by an interconnected network of large corporate conglomerates and international banking interests, which manipulates and filters out news that does not fit their corporate agenda.
There is also the Pentagon's manipulation of 911 news and Iraq war news by spoon-feeding talking points and manipulating talking points and infiltrating the already corrupt media.
Fact-check, use alternative news sources, question all, research, study, ponder, pray...
occam's razor | 4:46 p.m. April 9, 2009
Why would a terrorist hijack a plane leaving Boston and fly it for 45 minutes
before reaching NYC - this would be a window of opportunity to be intercepted,
in other words, an unsuccessful terrorist attempt. It would make so much more
sense if the planes flying into the Towers were hijacked as they flew out of NYC
airports.
TR | 5:06 p.m. April 9, 2009
I can tell you exactly when the explosives were planted. The WTC bombing that
occurred prior to 9/11 were used as a pretext to plant the neccessary
explosives. Remember, a blind muslim fanatic orchestrated it. Only federal
employees were allowed near that site for months.
Marty Didier | 5:07 p.m. April 9, 2009
There's a lot more to this as I learned the details of 911 back in 1996
while in a family who are directly involved in the criminal activity involved in
what is happening. The scientific community has done a good job to surface
detailed information supporting a planned destruction. I can assure everyone
that this was State Run Terrorism. Many of those involved are currently in the
news and expect their involvement in 911 to surface in the future.
Marty Didier
Northbrook, IL
Marty Didier
Northbrook, IL
kellysgarden | 5:14 p.m. April 9, 2009
How 'bout this for a conspiracy theory? The Northwoods Documents, which are
now in the public realm and available on the internet to anyone, tell how the
Joint Chiefs of Staff in 1963 submitted a plan to JFK that would create a
pretext to a war with Cuba by initiating a false-flag attack on the USA.
This plan called for a military plane to be painted up to look like a commercial airliner. The plane was to be flown remotely over Cuba, where it would be detonated by a radio signal. The false passenger lists would be publicized, and mock funerals would be held.
This conspiracy was not a theory, however. It was a serious plan which JFK did not authorize. Instead, JFK had Lemnitzer removed from his position of Joint Chief.
The USA has had other documented cases of false-flag attacks to justify a war. For example, google the Gulf of Tonkin incident.
Study up on the 1963 Northwoods Documents by googling it.
The official conspiracy theory of 9/11 cannot explain the molten metal found in the sub-basements of all three buildings. Google WTC7.
This plan called for a military plane to be painted up to look like a commercial airliner. The plane was to be flown remotely over Cuba, where it would be detonated by a radio signal. The false passenger lists would be publicized, and mock funerals would be held.
This conspiracy was not a theory, however. It was a serious plan which JFK did not authorize. Instead, JFK had Lemnitzer removed from his position of Joint Chief.
The USA has had other documented cases of false-flag attacks to justify a war. For example, google the Gulf of Tonkin incident.
Study up on the 1963 Northwoods Documents by googling it.
The official conspiracy theory of 9/11 cannot explain the molten metal found in the sub-basements of all three buildings. Google WTC7.
Occam's Razor | 5:28 p.m. April 9, 2009
Additionally, if one were to rely on force and heat to collapse the towers and
ensure the success of the mission one would use a fully fueled 747 on a non-stop
flight to Tokyo taking off from LaGuardia or JFK. Maximum force, maximum fuel,
no time for interception. Whoever scripted the alleged series of events did not
take the time to put forth the most plausible plan with the highest degree of
success. Face it folks, we've been had....
Rusty Shackleford | 5:44 p.m. April 9, 2009
Conspiracy theories usually miss the mark, the simplest answer is usually the
correct one. I think the obvious answer is that the twin towers were originally
constructed out of explosives. The terrorists were just lucky.
anti-ignorance.org | 5:45 p.m. April 9, 2009
You people who continue to deny the obvious facts that show the true criminals
of 9/11, and those of you posting on here as shills attempting to thwart the
truth, are obviously either completely ignorant or a part of the problem. Your
name calling tactics are childish and lame. Do your homework. For the sake of
your freedom, PLEASE do your homework and realize what is going on in the world
around you. The truth will always win.
Bingo Johnny | 6:17 p.m. April 9, 2009
I thought everyone knew this stuff already. You can tell by the aggressiveness
of the shills that this story is hot. Almost as hot as molten steel...
Many thanks to Elaine Jarvik for being one of the few in the media who is doing her job. Nobody likes to change diapers but someone has to hold their nose and do it.
Many thanks to Elaine Jarvik for being one of the few in the media who is doing her job. Nobody likes to change diapers but someone has to hold their nose and do it.
BenF | 6:19 p.m. April 9, 2009
Maslow's Hierarchy of Needs places "The Acceptance of the Facts"
at the very top. It is part of what is called "Self Actualization."
If a truth threatens any of the basic needs, like food, shelter, safety, a sense
of belonging, a feeling of esteem in society, then people will instinctively
choose not to believe it is true.
A lot of people are not "going there" out of self-preservation. They are in denial and people in denial can be jerks. So, aside from the Benedict Arnold-like paid shills, you are seeing denial, the same kind of fearful bullying and ridicule that you saw back before the Catholic clergy abuse scandal broke. Back then victims of clergy abuse were pilloried, marginalized and shunned for trying to speak the truth by people who felt too threatened by the implications of believing them. To those people in denial on this peer reviewed paper, consider taking it easy; elite traitors have been called out and arrested before in our country and all it did was result in a better country, so, when it happens again it'll be like what happened with the church, sad, but not earth shattering.
A lot of people are not "going there" out of self-preservation. They are in denial and people in denial can be jerks. So, aside from the Benedict Arnold-like paid shills, you are seeing denial, the same kind of fearful bullying and ridicule that you saw back before the Catholic clergy abuse scandal broke. Back then victims of clergy abuse were pilloried, marginalized and shunned for trying to speak the truth by people who felt too threatened by the implications of believing them. To those people in denial on this peer reviewed paper, consider taking it easy; elite traitors have been called out and arrested before in our country and all it did was result in a better country, so, when it happens again it'll be like what happened with the church, sad, but not earth shattering.
Shill Hater | 6:34 p.m. April 9, 2009
yes, the Shills are restless. it's as if we're telling these pathetic
mormon GOP blind faith idiots that there is no God. That's true too, but
they won't print it. Shills are indeed fired up.
Prufrock | 6:49 p.m. April 9, 2009
How many the shills (9/11 DENIERS) are on that massive Pentagon psy-ops payroll
?
Stephen Jones is a true American patriot.
It's a little safer to come out now.
Google some research for yourself.
Wake up America.
Stephen Jones is a true American patriot.
It's a little safer to come out now.
Google some research for yourself.
Wake up America.
david | 7:14 p.m. April 9, 2009
@ Jessica,
You said:
"I am honestly unsure of what to think. Here are some random thoughts....Realistically, everything we know about the 911 attacks comes from the media,which probably got their information from the government."
Your caution and doubt is totally appropriate and is true intelligence. When all sources of information are mediated ultimately you must trust your own perception. That is indeed the only intelligent way to proceed.
So please consider, verify, and contemplate this:
In its final report, the 9/11 commission found that the structures of WTC 1 and 2, damaged by plane impacts and fire, weakened until they gave way. The report concludes that no force other than gravity caused the 2 towers to "collapse".
Confirm that. Investigate that simple statement until you are satisfied it is accurate.
Then, do an online search for a you-tube video, using the following key words, "north tower exploding" turn the sound off so you don't hear the commentary, and weigh it against what you previously confirmed.
The 9/11 commission says what you are seeing is only gravity, but what do YOU see?
Best of luck to you.
You said:
"I am honestly unsure of what to think. Here are some random thoughts....Realistically, everything we know about the 911 attacks comes from the media,which probably got their information from the government."
Your caution and doubt is totally appropriate and is true intelligence. When all sources of information are mediated ultimately you must trust your own perception. That is indeed the only intelligent way to proceed.
So please consider, verify, and contemplate this:
In its final report, the 9/11 commission found that the structures of WTC 1 and 2, damaged by plane impacts and fire, weakened until they gave way. The report concludes that no force other than gravity caused the 2 towers to "collapse".
Confirm that. Investigate that simple statement until you are satisfied it is accurate.
Then, do an online search for a you-tube video, using the following key words, "north tower exploding" turn the sound off so you don't hear the commentary, and weigh it against what you previously confirmed.
The 9/11 commission says what you are seeing is only gravity, but what do YOU see?
Best of luck to you.
kellysgarden | 7:16 p.m. April 9, 2009
9/11 was the biggest crime in the history of the world, and we still don't
know exactly who did it. Bin Laden is NOT wanted by the FBI for the lack of
evidence. To verify this fact, just go the the FBI's official website and
check out bin Laden's page. FBI says they don't list 9/11 as one of
his crimes because they lack the evidence.
So, the real perpetrators of 9/11 are still at large, and it appears there are two distinct groups of people in USA - - the first group doesn't care about bin Laden or whomever was behind 9/11, and the second group is extremely concerned about finding the perpetrators of 9/11 and are demanding a new investigation into the facts in order to find out who perpetrated the biggest crime in world history.
Given the existence of these two distinct groups of people, those who care to catch the real perps, and those who don't care to look into the facts, I'd say that the group who wants a new investigation is the patriotic group.
So, the real perpetrators of 9/11 are still at large, and it appears there are two distinct groups of people in USA - - the first group doesn't care about bin Laden or whomever was behind 9/11, and the second group is extremely concerned about finding the perpetrators of 9/11 and are demanding a new investigation into the facts in order to find out who perpetrated the biggest crime in world history.
Given the existence of these two distinct groups of people, those who care to catch the real perps, and those who don't care to look into the facts, I'd say that the group who wants a new investigation is the patriotic group.
Dianne C. Foster | 7:34 p.m. April 9, 2009
It's rather telling how "ad hominem" most of the critics of
Professor Jones are here - circular reasoning which essentially says that to
disbelieve the official story is evidence of mental illness. That is NOT how
this country was made or how science progressed. Carry on, truthers, and may we
finally have light and air again in this country, that is not contaminated with
corruption.
9/11 is a shame | 8:58 p.m. April 9, 2009
Thank you Mr. Jones.
tanabear | 10:52 p.m. April 9, 2009
Anonymous: "I'm sure the people who died in the 9/11 attacks would be
doing flips in their graves if they heard about this conspiracy. Shame on those
who believe it was the US government."
Shame on those who don't care about investigating the greatest mass murder in American history.
Rusty Shackleford: "the simplest answer is usually the correct one."
The explanation that can best account for the available evidence is normally the correct one.
Shame on those who don't care about investigating the greatest mass murder in American history.
Rusty Shackleford: "the simplest answer is usually the correct one."
The explanation that can best account for the available evidence is normally the correct one.
Psychology | 11:23 p.m. April 9, 2009
To: TR (5:06 PM): You give an excellent hypothesis about a timeframe during
which the explosives could have been applied.
Also interesting, in addition, is that there appears to have been re-"fireproofing" done to parts of the core structures of WTC 1 & 2 at certain times.
It's surprising the lack of imagination deniers show when they imagine the folks applying the explosives to be a big crew of demolition guys marching in with TNT or thermite, etc. It is perfectly possible that most of the people who set the explosives in the buildings thought they were doing something harmless.
Also interesting, in addition, is that there appears to have been re-"fireproofing" done to parts of the core structures of WTC 1 & 2 at certain times.
It's surprising the lack of imagination deniers show when they imagine the folks applying the explosives to be a big crew of demolition guys marching in with TNT or thermite, etc. It is perfectly possible that most of the people who set the explosives in the buildings thought they were doing something harmless.
Mike | 12:56 a.m. April 10, 2009
Mark wrote:
"I have a hard time believing that we have the requisite number of people in the government needed to carry out such a vast conspiracy who are also willing to kill thousands of innocent Americans and then stay silent for years to come."
Mark, have you never heard of Pearl Harbor? Please refer to "Day of Infamy." Google it.
"I have a hard time believing that we have the requisite number of people in the government needed to carry out such a vast conspiracy who are also willing to kill thousands of innocent Americans and then stay silent for years to come."
Mark, have you never heard of Pearl Harbor? Please refer to "Day of Infamy." Google it.
To Mark | 1:00 a.m. April 10, 2009
"I have a hard time believing that we have the requisite number of people
in the government needed to carry out such a vast conspiracy who are also
willing to kill thousands of innocent Americans and then stay silent for years
to come."
Have you never heard of Pearl Harbor? Please refer to "Day of Deceit" by Robert Stinnett. Google it.
Have you never heard of Pearl Harbor? Please refer to "Day of Deceit" by Robert Stinnett. Google it.
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