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Utah might be production home to 'green' vehicle
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This is crazy. Where does the electricity come from, anyway? Burning coal - right?
And we're supposed to purchase this "vehicle" created in someone's garage based on a Geo that's at least four years old....and has no warranty?
What's "green" about a car powered by toxic metals and acid and recharged by a coal-fired power plant?
What's desirable about a car with range so short it would require 2 days to drive from Salt Lake to St. George?
Battery-powered cars are not the answer. They will be a short-lived fad while hydrogen fuel cells become feasible.
Another one trying to make a killing over the global warming hoax. Al Gore would be proud.
The thing couldn't get you to Wendover. And the hundred mile range assumes a flat terrain. And where's all this electricity coming from if everyone starts buying these things? Guess we gotta build more power plants.
People will definitely be exited to see this produced in Utah - that is until they start experiencing the reality of the hazardous materials and wastes that go into making the large batteries for these things.
Nah, probably not. Global warming types tend to look the other way when it comes to the realities of their world warming plans.
This car isnt for going to St George. It is for taking me to work in the morning... can't wait.
I can't believe the posts from these half-glass-empty folks. The prospect of electric cars becoming available and affordable is exciting. Most of my driving is to and from work, maybe a 20 mile round trip. Sure, it has limited range so long trips would be a hassle; a gas powered vehicle would still be needed for such trips. But as a commuter vehicle an electric vehicle will be great.
Since the gas companies have found that people will pay $4/gallon, that is a price point that they will be seeking again. Enjoy the relatively cheap gas prices while they last but you can be sure that they will not last. When gas prices are once more high, these nay sayers will then wish they had a car that got the equivalent of 190 miles per gallon.
Good luck Brooks, I wish you much success in your venture.
duh,
I don't know about you but I need to go places other than work every day. What are you gonna drive to visit the folks, or take a vacation, or do your running around on the weekends?
Or don't you do any of those things?
I don't know about you, CaptHowdy, but I've got four cars sitting at my house. If the one I used to go to work was fully electric, I'd be tickled pink. Same with the one my wife uses to run around town. Same with the two my daughters drive. We'll keep our 15-year old Suburban for long trips and vacations, and park it the rest of the time.
As far as batteries vs. fuel cells - the motors all run on electricity - doesn't matter if it comes from a battery pack or a fuel cell.
Look up "who killed the electric car?" Electric vehicles were the first vehicles developed at the advent of vehicles.
Why so pessimistic? 10:50 a.m. April 7, 2009:
"Since the gas companies have found that people will pay $4/gallon, that is a price point that they will be seeking again."
The premise of your argument is misguided. You have a predisposed hatred toward those "greedy" gas companies. You think the companies set whatever price they want based on what customers are willing to pay. The reality is that the market drives the prices and markets fluctuate all the time based on numerous factors. It's no different than the orange juice market, the diaper market, the candy bar market and so on.
The problem here is that these vehicles are being forced on us using the evils-of-greenhouse-gasses fears they're instilling in everyone, but nobody sees the hazardous materials used in their manufacture or the environmental impact of disposing of all these batteries as they wear out. Mercury, hydrochloric acid, lead, cadmium, etc.
Everyone lately is lambasting all the rich companies for the money they make unless it's for the big "green" scam being perpetrated on us all.
It's the hypocracy that irritates me.
Cap'n, do you believe the bull you spew forth? Don't know if you've been following it, but big oil has broken their profit record every year for the last few consecutive years, and while the cost of crude had been dropping, fuel prices remain relatively stable... no, they're not in it for the money... no. As for the current state of EV tech, mercury and lead are not used. Neither is HCl, which is not toxic to begin with. Regardless, batteries wouldn't be disposed of at the end of their life, they'd be recycled. Recycled not disposed of - another part of the green conspiracy. And for 90% of the driving 90% of people do, 100 miles is more than enough for a days travel. Plus, that's based on years old tech, add $10K to the purchase ($30K total) price and you'll easily get 200 miles/chg. And yes, electricity has to be generated, but do minimal research and you'll find the efficiency of gas/coal fired turbines is far better than a gas engine, even with line losses.
Ihave an electric vehicle developed in california made in india which in uk does equivalent to just over 600 mpg (at our prices) I love it and so does every one else I know !! in London we have free charging facility, no parking charges and massive savings we have a gas vehicle for occsasional long trips I have saved a fortune with it and electricity production is much greener than gas guzzlers .servicing is cheap and simple for the mechanic with clean hands!! c`mon america get up to speed!!!
If you look up Brooks Agnew you'll find that he is a quack who believes that the world is hollow. Also, you'll find that Green Star is a bogus outfit formed to rip off the unwary investor.
No doubt the electric car is a good idea, but the car pictured is powered by lead acid batteries. No new technology there. In fact, the machine is just a glorified golf cart. Also, remember that electricity either comes from coal or nuclear or hydroelectric. It is not free.
Electric is not just made by coal and oil fired plants. Wind power, solar, and nuclear are three I can think of.
As to market prices and oil company profits, the OTC market exists for the purpose to manipulate prices. If only a producer could sell the future, and the buyer had to take delivery of the product sold, the price would not be driven by speculation. The oil market is not a supply and demand market. Any product on the OTC has its price driven by speculation.
It is a shame GM killed the electric car, as documented by Sony in the movie "Who killed the electric car". Many thanks to Martin Sheen for the narration. Maybe the nation will one day leave gas behind, but only when GM closes its doors. GM is bent on leaving the planet a burnt cinder. I wonder what their escape plan is for their children. My plan is never to buy another anything built by GM. Do a net search for "Who killed the electric car" and rent it or buy it and watch it.
Get these electric cars on the market, my wife and I are waiting.
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