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State body gives guidelines for the money-saving action

Published: Monday, April 6 2009 12:00 a.m. MDT

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Anonymous

Eliminating quality teaching days????? So teachers are now expected to put in even more overtime without compensation to get things done? Just another instance of the lack of respect for educators in this country, but especially this state.

Re: Anonymous

Agreed! Another instance of balancing the budget on the back of the teachers.

Let's see....

They will probably cut planning days instead of in-class days (need for babysitting vs. upset parents at having to spend MORE time with kids). But! What about the salaried people? Will they get five less paid days? Will the large and spacious building that GSD uses as HQ see five vacant, non-paid days? Let's report on that possibility? Or, let's look at what all those people actually do to educate our children! There's more savings possible than docking teachers five days of pay. Dig into the district offices and let's see what really happens!

Anonymous

Just don't teach anything the first 5 days of school and tell the parents you need the time to get your classroom and lessons ready.

Really Now....

Cut them off during the Thanksgiving Week. Kids do not get anything done that week anyway. Families would love to have extra time to travel to be with families. Or cut them off at the end of the school year, when they do nothing but watching movies and playing in class. I always find the last 3 school days wasted, especially when they only have 2 hours the last day, just to count it. Useless!

Anonymous

It's fine with me if they cut five days. I mean all kids really do in school is goof off, or review everything they've already learned.

Anonymous

It's not fair that the teachers have to 'pay' for the bad money management of the district. A lot of money could be saved if positions were cut at the district level. How many secretaries are needed at the district offices? Consolidate, it would go a long way for teachers.

Anonymous

They could always shorten spring break and give them a week off at Thanksgiving.

Science Teacher

Expect more movies in my class while I prepare lessons. I'm done going in a week early to work for free.

State Worker

The teachers don't work that long compared to the rest of the workforce. I am required to work 2088 hours a year and most of that time is at nights and weekends. I don't get weekends and holidays off, or days were I can just shut down and get uninterrupted time to get things done. Most of the times teachers work the minimum and always ask for more. I don't feel bad that the teachers feel pick on because of the economy, because my employer has cut my budget almost 20% and still expect the same level of service as before. So, quite crying and get a second job like most of us have to.

REstate worker

It would be picked on and expects the same level.

Anonymous

Yes try being a state employee and you will know whats it is like to not have any more money this next year. We all have to do our part in these hard times. How about that $20.00 fee so that you can have more Troopers for UHP. Because it is a fee you can not claim it on your tax return. They said that they didn't raise taxes but fees did go up. I think they should charge a fee to those who have kids in school and those who have caused this problem. There is no such thing as a free ride I pay for kids to just sit in class and do nothing. Yes it will be eight days off, but it won't be without paid but it will be without kids. Five more party days.

Cut a Month

Why not cut out a month by cutting out all of the monkey business in school calendars...focus on academics, and give both the students and the property tax payer a break during these tough economic times? Makes sense, but the teacher's union would go ballistic.

Cyberian

Dear State Worker,

I am a licensed teacher and technology director in one of Utah's 40 (soon to be 41) districts.

I work an average of 80 hours a week. I often work 100 hours in a week. I work 12 months of the year, not nine. I work six days every week, and often find myself working Sunday evenings as well.

I do not get overtime. I do not get comp time.

I earn 20 days of vacation a year. I generally use no more than 10 of those vacation days.

If you are capable of doing math, you should be able to determine that I work anywhere from 40 to 60 hours a week without pay. I do it for the students and my teaching colleagues. Given your attitude, if I were your colleague, I would cut my hours to 40 per week, immediately. Fortunately, my colleagues and students are a bit more appreciative of my efforts.

re:state worker

Could you clarify for me where in the article the teachers were crying about everything? Whenever anything changes everyone screams that the teachers are ungrateful, lazy, basically worthless individuals. I'm just confused because this isn't about teacher's reactions. Just stating what they decided to do.

Terrible decision

I am a teacher. If you cut my quality teaching days in order to save money, I guarantee you will get your money's worth.

Anonymous

Judging from the grammar and mistakes in these posts, we should be adding days not taking them away!

Mac

How about we do some math? 180 school days for 8 hours a day at $38,500 in pay, average starting pay here. That is $26.73 per hour before benefits such as healthcare, pensions, etc. For the one spouting off about how "I work 100 hours a week," lets see that means you have only 68 hours of a week left, or 9.71hours per day. You either are a liar or you are at work all the time. What about commute time? What about time to sleep? What about the CPE time? What about time to take care of family matters like paying your taxes? You must think people are dumb enough to believe that you really put in 100 hours a week. Sorry, I don't buy it. Plus how hard is it to teach the same thing year after year after year. The only year a teacher really works is the first year. Maybe if textbook is changed you might have to adjust your teaching plans. But really, teaching is an easy job because you just indoctrinate kids on your views. Right or wrong.

Anonymous

Mac, you are welcome to come and do this "easy" job. They don't just change text books, they change what students are expected to know. I'd love to see you or any one else who thinks it's easy to come and spend one day and have my classroom ready for the year. I'll even give you a head start by leaving you a list of the things that need to be done. Then if you still think it's easy, come and substitute my class on day with lesson plans prepared and papers run off. You really should learn about what you're saying before you say it.

matt

Not a hard thing to cut 5 days when you realize, at least where I went to school in Provo and Orem, that the last 2 days of school you do nothing, the day before Christmas break you do nothing, and there were at least a few other days we did nothing.

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