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Published: Tuesday, March 24 2009 12:00 a.m. MDT

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Jeff

Nobody would give a darn about these relics if they didn't want to build a Frontrunner station there. The hypocrisy in this state is never ending.

Dee Dee

To say there will be shops and services in the UTA deveopment area is an understatement. The City of Draper is allowing the developer to put unlimited height and density apartments which some say will bring an additional 5,000 people to this small deveopment. With only one road in and out of the area the developer has offered to pay for a road and bridge over the railroad tracks. Some say the Draper Council has been bought by the developer. It is always about money and not what is best for the whole community.

While other cities have preserved and beautified the parkway enhancing public enjoyment, Draper seeks to pave it in concrete. The development actually crosses the trail at one point.

While residents fight to find a solution that would benefit both parties the Council won't budge, the only thing they care about is the money. We should all think twice about who we vote for next election.

Neighbor

It is so sad to me that our own Draper Council can be bought of with tax dollars. While I realize there has to be a tax bases, Draper allowed these neighborhoods and the master plan was to keep it rural. This neighborhood is 1/2 to 1 acre lots with zoned for horses. Could be a beautiful place to live if you weren't being squashed with development. Who was the master planner that let the vision of what Draper is about die????

Axel

Actually the land was originally set aside and protected specifically because of the relics. People did and do give a darn.

The thing that doesn't make sense is that UTA has stepped out of its mandate to provide public transportation and has become a developer. Bruce Jones comment that this, "would propel the success of the station." Shows just far over the line they have moved. They already own property in Bluffdale right next to a planned, approved, and platted 13,000 resident development. Wouldn't that many riders "propel the success of the station"? It's also the most central location between the Lehi and Sandy stops.

This thing stinks. Someone needs to follow the money trail and see who stands to profit this time by this shift to the Draper location.

It's all about power and money and I'm tired of UTA using our sales tax dollars inappropriately. They have forgotten who's money it is and who they serve. They should focus on transportation -- not land development.

open space

Actually, the state preserved the location through a special bill passed several years ago precisely because of the value of the artifacts and the open space. There have been archeologists working there for a couple of years.

zip

Do environmentalist work? if so how do they get there? Do they have families? if so how do they go places with their families? Do they shop in real stores for food and clothing, or do they make and grow their own. Why do they live in a civilized area if they do not want any changes, ever! I would love to have some answers posted. Thanks, I am very serious.

To Jeff...

Who are you talking to? I am very interested in learning about this site. This is a 3000 year old native american site! This is a rare find and a great chance to study these people we know little about. Are you afraid of what they will find?

Spacecowboy

to zip...You can't really be serious... If you were you would recognize that there is ground in between the two extremes of paving the world in the name of civilization and wearing and eating twigs and berries. A society that thinks it has nothing to learn of those that went before seems a bit self aggrandizing. Why can we not preserve areas of significance and teach ourselves about the past and build what we need elsewhere? It seems a little too easy to simply make fun of others by questioning their work ethic. I wouldn't consider myself an environmentalist... in fact, by and large I don't jive with tree-huggers. I do, however, see the benefit in preserving history where we can.

Hatuletoh

Hi zip:

I don't call myself an environmentalist, per se, but I'd be glad to relate how I try to be as environmentally friendly as possible.

I do work, and when the weather is decent, I walk. When the weather is poor, I induldge in the use of a well-tuned, low emission automobile. The trip from home to work by car takes about two minutes. This is not accidental--I have worked hard to ensure I live close to my employer so as to minimize my commute.

I do have a family. The kids take the bus to school and are involved in local activities within. We belong to two informal carpool groups to minimize the driving.

Clothing and much food still have to be purchased, but rather than I lawn, I've turned my yard into a little farm (I live in Sugarhouse). Between my yard a couple of neighbors, we grow more food in than we can possibly eat, and the women have learned how to can. I'm looking forward to when my fruit trees are mature.

It ain't perfect, but every little bit helps. And the food is great.

John

So Salt is threatning a lawsuit, where does he live, probably no where in the area.
Preserve history, for what so the place can be vandalized?
Let's move on tell UTA sorry we don't want your platform there, then grab a drink and, sit back, and watch it go in.

Anonymous

UTA overstepping their bounds and developing, or people actually caring about some birds and their migratory path. Who apparently only have a tiny spot that suits them. What happened to evolution? can't they just adapt? Is this one spot in Draper really the only stopping point for them between Alaska and Mexico??? Come on!

Sigh

Can we stop delaying FrontRunner into Utah County? The positive enviornmental impact of this project, derived from getting cars off the freeway, is tremendous! Stop delaying this project and get it done soon!

Dee Dee

to Zip: You don't have to be an environmentalist to not want a new high rise city in the middle of a piece of property set aside for equestrian trails, parks, and the path of the Jordan River Parkway, not to mention the Indian find.

While I would love a few new restaurants in the area I disagree with the way this is being crammed into a residential area. There are other options for this project that wouldn't have the same impact to the community.

If you would like to come buy my house so you can look out your window at high rise towers and an influx of more crime contact me. I will sell you my house.

You must not enjoy taking your children to the park for a picnic or walking down to the river to feed the ducks, or going for a jog or bike ride on the parkway where you don't have to worry about being hit by a car? The solice of the parkway where hundreds of people spend time away from the hustle and bustle of the city is not replaceable. We can shop anywhere.

Fed-UP

To Anonymous, If you were actually following the story you would know there are 4 purposed sites 2 of which would still service main arteries of I15 that are already in commercially zoned area's. What is wrong with using those area's instead of catering to a developer who has a long time reputation of bankrupting companies and being less than ethical? It isn't a UTA stop that is the issue, it is the choice of where it goes that is an issue. It isn't about birds and their migratory path.
By the way, if UTA is going to partner with developers, shouldn't there be a bid process so others could also be able to share in the growth process? Why are they really hooking up with this particular developer? Oh that's right he is a member of their board.

wallofvoodoo

What a better way to preserve archiological treasures than encasing them in asphalt.

Thomas

The Jordan River Parkway has the potential of becoming the "Central Park" of Salt Lake City. Currently, a wet-lands restoration project is underway along the Parkway between I-201 and 3300 S. With that in mind, building a development right next to, or crossing this Parkway trail elsewhere is counter-intuitive. If we are going to have a park, lets have a park. As has been mentioned above, the asphalt jungle is already everywhere else.
Also, we need to quit trashing the river. Only an absolute clod throws drink cups, trash, water bottles, and, yes, even tires and shopping carts into the Jordan River. To have something truly nice, we all need to cooperate.

Face the Facts

You people live in the city it is not the country. All I here is crying and moaning about don't build there it is next to me. There used to be some open spaces in this valley with several Dairy's. But all you city savages cried a river and moaned that they didn't meet your smell test. They were there long before you. They were great areas of open space in a sea of concrete. Face the facts you chose to live in this mass populice so quit crying. I moved out to the country so I could commute over an hour and burn my fossil fuel to help you mass polluters usher in your own deaths. Good day you savages.

Anonymous

Governor using UTA to destroy wetlands, and Indian sites in Draper
Im sorry to learn that what has been happening in my neighborhood is now happening to the citizens of Draper. Our governor, John Huntsman Jr., head of UTA using the might of government is forcing a freeway right through the middle of our community, contrary to the will of the people, the medical professionals and the city council. The doctors are saying that 80% of all cancers are caused by this kind of freeway pollution. Our city council came up with an alternative location that would be less costly to build, handle more traffic, and be less intrusive and more environmentally friendly. But the governor has totally turned his back on everybody. Instead of government of the people, by the people and for the people we now have government of the governor, by the governor and for the governorthe people be damned. It seems that all that matters to our governor is whats good for him, his cronies and his contractors. Goodbye constitution!

STEVE-O

Better not build a train stop there! Somebody might step on a dandilion!! Good greif.

another sell out on the way

That's right. Mr. Jon the lib disguised as a mormon republican will sell out to the environmentalist just like he did on legacy highway.

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