Comments about ‘Record number of Utah police disciplined’

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Published: Tuesday, March 24 2009 12:00 a.m. MDT

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Anonymous

I'm happy to read that those who crossed the line have been disciplined. There are plenty of good men and women who can honorably take their place.

Officer Gardner

What about Officer Gardner from Vernal (the cop who haphazardly tazered a taxpayer/motorist, tramatizing his wife, and shocking [no pun intended] the rest of us who watched it on youtube), is he still around??? I hope he's gone. I need to know if its safe to drive to Vernal yet!

Ryan

Despite the fact that these are "record numbers", I'm well pleased to see accountability for police action in the State of Utah. That's a good thing.

MillardCounty

Did the Millard County Deputy Sheriff Carter lose his badge after he handcuffed the man from Fillmore and then threw him to the ground? it was on KSL and then went nation wide.just wondering.

Have had

I've had 2 negative experiences, with shady cops. But I certainly wasn't on my way to jail. And they both were in Pocatello, ID. So though it's true, most of the time, if you've had a run in with a cop, you've been doing something stupid in the first place to deserve it... it's not ALWAYS the case. Course, I'm not from CA. And I can spell.

Terry Kuhs

I'm 41 years old. I grew up and currently live in Southern California. I have never had a bad ezperience with any law enforcement official performing his or her duties. Then again, I take responsibility for my actions. When I was cited for speeding as a teenager...I was actually speeding!

Law enforcement is a tough job. Unfortunately there are a few cops that are out of line. Don't label the entire law enforcement community due to the bad actions of the few.

P.S. You can learn to spell in the California school system if you pay attention to the teacher.

samhill

I would like to believe that the rise in actions against police is due to increased vigilance and stricter standards. But, sadly, I suspect instead that it is more a factor of a decline in the quality of the people entering the field.

That is a scary prospect when I consider that I am rapidly approaching the age when I am going to be relying on the videogame-watching slackers that I see everywhere in increasing numbers. Their incompetence at assuming responsibility for even themselves, much less take upon the responsibility of something as challenging as law enforcement, has societal implications that are frightening to contemplate.

Please use spell check people

Spell check is a wonderful thing. Anyway its a good thing to keep cops on the good side. But they are human so cut them some slack for some mistakes. It's great to see cop's being shown they are not above the law.

MJB

Obviously there exist cops that are corrupt or maybe are having a bad day and make a wrong choice, but I think it's the general public that's becoming more stupid and difficult.

And as for that guy on youtube, he's the epitome of insubordinate dumb people! IF I WERE THAT COP I WOULD HAVE TAZERED HIM TEN MINUTES BEFORE HE ACTUALLY DID!!! I couldn't believe how much he was whining and NOT listening.

Responsible

Interesting. The last year I had 2 experiences as a law abiding citizen with the Salt Lake County Sheriff's Office. Both were extremely negative. I used to think that the police were actually defending our rights and sending the bad guys to jail. Now I think that most of them should be in jail. In general their ego is bigger than life, they think they are above all of the citizens that they WORK for and they break their own laws trying to get others to do the same so that they can see some action. I for one will be voting against all the people that are in office and will not defend the offensive police force we have working for us.

keith

Few,if any cops are reprimanded for abusive treatment to the average citizen.Most of these cops you will notice were fined for other reasons.

St. George cops are the worst

They will give you a ticket for driving with CA plates.

Then tell you that if you want to fight it, you need to come all the way back in a month to do so.

Lucky I could.

My speeding ticket was for going over a speed limit (I believe 40 mph) that did not even exist in the city.

Wiped his silly small town smile off his crooked face.

Sheesh!!

Dear Spell Check:

Good spelling is a beautiful thing, and so is good grammar. Yours isn't.

"Responsible," I'm with you. MJB, you're obviously a cop or related to one. Only a cop would suggest that a U.S. citizen deserves being tazed for whining.

discontents

It's too bad that you are so discontent with this generation, samhill. If it's any consolation, your complaint is an age-old sign of the "cognizance" of old age. The generation before you felt the same way about your generation. The baby boomers took the ages-old sign of manhood (i.e.,beards) and turned it into a sign of rebellion and unkemptness. The generation before that were the GIs and their wordly ways that were going to do us in. Before that it was the roaring 20s. Luckily each generation matures w/ age, as your seem to have done. So, relax and start enjoying rather than fearing what you're going to find around the corner.

Anonymous

"Good spelling is a beautiful thing, and so is good grammar. Yours isn't."

Speaking of grammar, "Yours isn't." isn't a complete sentence!

But I'm happy to see law enforcement officers being expected to obey the law. I saw an officer turn off his lights after pulling someone over on a residential thoroughfare, and then BACK UP in the lane to get to his speed trap, rather than legally performing a U-turn. I stopped and asked that guy if that action was legal-his response was basically "if you're a cop". True, they need the freedom to break the rules of the road, but they don't seem to have the discipline to use that freedom appropriately, and so they set a bad example for everyone else.

Another time I saw a motorcycle cop on the sidewalk with his radar-I thought he shoould have been on the street so he didn't endanger pedestrians, but his supervisor defended him.

Don't hesitate to ask to speak with a supervisor when you're being maltreated-you do it with the customer service reps on the phone, and you can do it with cops too!

Garth

There are a lot of cry babies in Utah who are quick to point out others faults. I suspect that some who have posted comments in here are people who don't want to be held accountable for their actions breaking laws. Its one thing to be a critic and another to be bias. I think its safe to say that "everyone" who has posted a comment in here has committed some violation at some point. Cops are a necessity whether we like it or not. No one is perfect including police officers. If you have a legitimate concern fine but if you are just wanting to "rag" on law enforcement no one wants to hear what you have to say.

Bill K

I do believe there are some good cops mixed within the bad although from my experience I do not like or trust them. My experience started a a young one with visions of becoming a police officer. I recall a Sheriff's Deputy Gary B. informing my Law Enforcement Explorer Group stating , "you are not really breaking the law until you get caught". Although from what I knew of him a good man although I questioned his motives after giving this instruction to a group of 16 something kids. Then I became involved with attempting to get a position as an officer in a major metro city in Michigan, even though I scored a band A in my certification for the state I observed individuals get hired based on their relationship with others in the department, their sex or race. The funny thing was an individual whom I associated with through out school Brian H. was hired because of his father's ranking as detective, (who also scored lower than me) was 2 years later attested for felony shoplifting in a department store (Continue)

thomas paine

I second this comment. Using handheld electrocution devices is "cruel and unusual" no matter how you cut it. TAZERS owned by indicted Guiliani thug Bernard Kerik, were marketed as "less lethal" tools for cops to use instead of their gun. They are not intended for non-compliance or to garner cooperation. Misuse is causing instant 'death penalty's' at least once a week in America right now! Do you support the "death penalty" when it is not imposed by a jury of your peers? it is more than unconstitutional..it is WRONG!


What about Officer Gardner from Vernal (the cop who haphazardly tazered a taxpayer/motorist, tramatizing his wife, and shocking [no pun intended] the rest of us who watched it on youtube), is he still around??? I hope he's gone. I need to know if its safe to drive to Vernal yet

crooked cops

I had a bunch of run in's with Boss hog and his boys in southern Utah (Sevier County) what a freakin joke. I wish my incident was a youtube I'd be a rich man.

The real k9

I believe the cops in St.George are bored and get a little too excited about their stops. I got a flat tire coming home from work going north just before the Hurricane exit. As I was laying on the ground at night changing my tire, a cop pulled up gave me the third degree and then made me get my license and registration, after he decided I wasn't a criminal for getting a flat tire, he had this to say "is there any way I can help you" I said "no I think you have delayed me quite enough, but I could use a floor jack" He said nothing and then left. They are terribly trained and one time I got a ticket in Hurricane for going through a red light, which was very close I thought. When he got me out he had me get my insurance card out of my glove box unescorted. I told him I could have a gun in there and you didn't even look!!! I'm a native californian and these guys would be dead working out there. They are ego-maniacs!!!

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