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3-day Draper Temple dedication concludes
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Richard | 6:01 a.m. March 23, 2009
The dedication was a wonderful experience! In a few months another sacred tmple
will be dedicated. What a great blessing for the saints in Utah.
Kim Sorensen | 6:15 a.m. March 23, 2009
Being in one of the many Stake Centers through out the valley, I'm grateful
that I got to witness the Sunday afternoon session. The spirit was so strong and
uplifting to me. It is rare that we get to attend these kinds of spiritual
moments, especially with the youth. I shall be ever grateful for this cherished
memory and blessing in my life.
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1Observer | 6:45 a.m. March 23, 2009
The comment by Dennis simply proves the old adage, "Beauty is in the eye of
the beholder." I for one found the Draper Temple to be a magnificent
building and a great asset to our community.
Deb | 6:53 a.m. March 23, 2009
Well Dennis, obviously beauty is in the eye of the beholder and each
person's perception is based not only on the physical but the whisperings
of the Spirit. Interestingly, my brother-in-law (who is not a member of the LDS
church by the way) who is an architect loves to visit various LDS temples when
he visits the area. He always points out the uniqueness of the buildings and
how they integrate beautifully into the areas they are built. So like I said, to
each their own perception.
RE: Observer & Deb | 7:19 a.m. March 23, 2009
You're simply taking the stance where you're afraid to replay anything
negative about the Church.
It's completely out of character with the entire valley. Just because it's a temple, and just because the brethren were there, and just because it's a special place, doesn't make it an elegant ediface. It's not.
It's completely out of character with the entire valley. Just because it's a temple, and just because the brethren were there, and just because it's a special place, doesn't make it an elegant ediface. It's not.
tony | 7:42 a.m. March 23, 2009
Temples are the most peaceful places on earth.How I weished I lived a few
minutes walk of one.
Anonymous | 7:43 a.m. March 23, 2009
I agree with Dennis. These buildings are ugly on the outside, beautiful on the
inside... just like-- well, you know. Let's just call them "sweet
spirit" buildings!
Tony | 7:44 a.m. March 23, 2009
Temples are the most peaceful places on earth. How I wished I lived a few
minutes walk from one of them.
Big Al | 7:52 a.m. March 23, 2009
For those of you critical of the design of LDS temples--"one of the ugliest
buildings in the state"
--I certainly respect your opinion and individual taste. To each his own. It would be interesting for you to submit your own design to the church building department, and express your ideas of a structure that would be more in keeping with the "character" of the entire valley. I'm very interested to see what such a building would look like . . .
--I certainly respect your opinion and individual taste. To each his own. It would be interesting for you to submit your own design to the church building department, and express your ideas of a structure that would be more in keeping with the "character" of the entire valley. I'm very interested to see what such a building would look like . . .
oldman | 7:55 a.m. March 23, 2009
Polly want a cracker. Same old lines. Give them credit they keep trying to make
the temple 'special.'
Barbara | 8:25 a.m. March 23, 2009
What's this "we" stuff, Dennis?
Seattle Guy | 8:31 a.m. March 23, 2009
Temples are ugly? Please, even my non-member co-workers in my state think that
the temples are awawsome looking. Get over your anti-mormon feels. What would
you then want? An old, dirty, poorly maintained dark chapel like so many in the
world? Yeah! that would great!.....not
Provo girl | 8:32 a.m. March 23, 2009
to oldman...have you ever been inside a temple? I suspect it's time...you
give it a try. It may change your mind....and you will find it is indeed
"special" unlike anything you've every experienced...
To the others who don't approve of the architecture of the temple. It is built to please God, not the world. Other architects that I know were pleased with it's design. Perhaps you just don't like temples at all.... Catch a glimpse of it in the evening and see if that changes your mind...it is designed to be a light unto the world, not just like any other building on the street.
To the others who don't approve of the architecture of the temple. It is built to please God, not the world. Other architects that I know were pleased with it's design. Perhaps you just don't like temples at all.... Catch a glimpse of it in the evening and see if that changes your mind...it is designed to be a light unto the world, not just like any other building on the street.
Carol Johanson | 8:40 a.m. March 23, 2009
I ponder what a beautiful City that we live in and the Temples are for many a
reminder to live clean, moral lives. To me they all signify beauty and
cleanliness. We are now blessed to have four in our
beautiful City. It is also interesting that as one goes to other states the temple resemble their culture.
beautiful City. It is also interesting that as one goes to other states the temple resemble their culture.
Anonymous | 8:41 a.m. March 23, 2009
The temple can't possibly be ugly. I mean, the LDS Church is all about
their image, right?
Oh, who knows.
Oh, who knows.
Japan member | 9:04 a.m. March 23, 2009
I live a days drive (several hundred dollars) from the Tokyo Temple. It is
beautiful and a wonderful blessing to have one that close.
I hope that the members in Salt Lake take advantage of having 3 temples in the valley! Wow. Simply amazing!
I hope that the members in Salt Lake take advantage of having 3 temples in the valley! Wow. Simply amazing!
Sammy | 9:06 a.m. March 23, 2009
The draper Temple is awesome. I loved the tall doors in it and the craftsman
style. It is a perfect blend of styles.
The granite matches the rocks up on Lone Peak exactly. It couldn't be a better match for the location.
For those of you who have never climbed Lone Peak I invite you to get up there this summer and see what I'm talking about. you will love it.
The granite matches the rocks up on Lone Peak exactly. It couldn't be a better match for the location.
For those of you who have never climbed Lone Peak I invite you to get up there this summer and see what I'm talking about. you will love it.
Cats | 9:08 a.m. March 23, 2009
Isn't it just incredible. Haters can find ANYTHING to make hateful
statements about. Even the architecture of the Temple.
Oldman and Dennis, I feel so sorry for you. You must live the most unhappy pathetic lives. Are you really that sad that you actually have to spend your lives making nasty remarks about a building. You must lay awake nights thinking of all the ways you can be mean.
You don't have to be so unhappy you know. There's a way to find peace. Why don't you think about it a little bit and you might figure it out.
Oldman and Dennis, I feel so sorry for you. You must live the most unhappy pathetic lives. Are you really that sad that you actually have to spend your lives making nasty remarks about a building. You must lay awake nights thinking of all the ways you can be mean.
You don't have to be so unhappy you know. There's a way to find peace. Why don't you think about it a little bit and you might figure it out.
K | 9:16 a.m. March 23, 2009
There should be more religious buildings, good job.
I am confused about the 12 year old remark. I thought you couldn't into temple unless getting married or going on mission ages. Basically over 18. I have heard of children getting sealed if adopted. Don't know how that works but I imagine for that the child would be able to get in?
I am confused about the 12 year old remark. I thought you couldn't into temple unless getting married or going on mission ages. Basically over 18. I have heard of children getting sealed if adopted. Don't know how that works but I imagine for that the child would be able to get in?
AnonymousMan | 9:24 a.m. March 23, 2009
Man,
What's the deal? They don't have to like the building.
I love the church, I love going to the temple, but it doesn't bother me at all (even in a Sunday School class) to say that in my own eye, some of the temples are, uh, less than attractive.
You guys make me so angry when you get so defensive over everything. No wonder people continue to egg you on here. I would too if you can't accept that some people, even church members, might find some of the temples architechturally less than appealing.
Regards,
Me
What's the deal? They don't have to like the building.
I love the church, I love going to the temple, but it doesn't bother me at all (even in a Sunday School class) to say that in my own eye, some of the temples are, uh, less than attractive.
You guys make me so angry when you get so defensive over everything. No wonder people continue to egg you on here. I would too if you can't accept that some people, even church members, might find some of the temples architechturally less than appealing.
Regards,
Me
Fools Mock | 9:31 a.m. March 23, 2009
It's been years and years since I wasted my breath or time in criticizing
another humans beings' religious beliefs. What kinda of person does that?
Honestly.....
Older man | 9:31 a.m. March 23, 2009
"Polly want a cracker. Same old lines. Give them credit they keep trying to
make the temple 'special"
Dear old man, Your thoughts are less unique than the ones you attribute to us. Your line is the same old line we have heard from the beginning. We will keep building temples and you will keep trying to run them down. Enter one and feel the power and love of God
Dear old man, Your thoughts are less unique than the ones you attribute to us. Your line is the same old line we have heard from the beginning. We will keep building temples and you will keep trying to run them down. Enter one and feel the power and love of God
curious | 9:45 a.m. March 23, 2009
If this article were about the dedication of a new synagogue and people
immediatly ranted on how ugly it was. The issue of not-so-latent anti-semitism
would be a fair topic of discussion. Therfore it is a fair topic here.
Reality check: The temple was not desighed to organically "fit in" - it was designed to stand out - just like a cathedral or the Cristus in Rio.
Even the best architecture has its critics (some people hate Frank Lloyd Wright or Frank Geary).
Architectural criticsm is fair - but much of the criticism on Deseret News web pages is clearly based in hate. Grow up.
(I am not LDS but I still recognize bigotry as bigotry)
Reality check: The temple was not desighed to organically "fit in" - it was designed to stand out - just like a cathedral or the Cristus in Rio.
Even the best architecture has its critics (some people hate Frank Lloyd Wright or Frank Geary).
Architectural criticsm is fair - but much of the criticism on Deseret News web pages is clearly based in hate. Grow up.
(I am not LDS but I still recognize bigotry as bigotry)
Zion, the beautiful | 9:46 a.m. March 23, 2009
The temples are beautiful, not only on the outside, but also on the inside.
The people of Utah, members of the LDS church and friends of other faiths are greatly blessed to have another House of the Lord in the valley.....
The people of Utah, members of the LDS church and friends of other faiths are greatly blessed to have another House of the Lord in the valley.....
To: "curious" | 9:58 a.m. March 23, 2009
Yeah right... play the victim of bigotry and discrimination. And SURE you are
not LDS...
To K | 9:58 a.m. March 23, 2009
Youth who are 12 and older may enter certain parts of the temple only (the
baptistry) to perform baptisms for the dead.
Adopted children and biological children who were born prior to their parents' temple sealing may enter a sealing room in the temple in order to be sealed to their parents. My husband's parents died when he was young, and when he wished to be sealed to them (he was a young teenager at the time), he was able to enter the temple to participate in that ordinance, with his grandparents acting as proxies for his deceased parents. Beautiful thing!
I hope that clarifies things a bit.
Adopted children and biological children who were born prior to their parents' temple sealing may enter a sealing room in the temple in order to be sealed to their parents. My husband's parents died when he was young, and when he wished to be sealed to them (he was a young teenager at the time), he was able to enter the temple to participate in that ordinance, with his grandparents acting as proxies for his deceased parents. Beautiful thing!
I hope that clarifies things a bit.
GeeBee | 10:18 a.m. March 23, 2009
Again, Cats makes the myopic and somewhat common LDS assumption that anyone who
doesn't think the way they do simply MUST be miserable and angry. Get
real.
Anonymous | 10:20 a.m. March 23, 2009
Dennis | 5:59 What to one person is monolithic post Soviet modernism is a image
of god's greatest to another. A sculpture by showing love by Rodin may
inspire some and be obscene to others.
What do you expect to find a St. Pauls or a Sistine Chapel in Draper?
What do you expect to find a St. Pauls or a Sistine Chapel in Draper?
I'm grateful | 10:26 a.m. March 23, 2009
I'm grateful to have attended the final dedication session. What a great
experience to have been there. Even though I was in a stake center in the
valley, I was still able to feel of the Spirit. Only those who are in tune can
feel of the magnificence of such a meeting.
negative comments | 10:32 a.m. March 23, 2009
Don't you know that those who make negative comments just want to start an
argument and cause feathers to ruffle? Opposition in all things. Ignore their
comments and they will eventually have to go away because there is no fuel for
the fire.
curious | 10:34 a.m. March 23, 2009
To: "curious" | 9:58 a.m. March 23, 2009
"Yeah right... play the victim of bigotry and discrimination. And SURE you are not LDS..."
Why do you have a hard time beliving a non-LDS person would still be opposed to anti-Mormon behaviour? Is it only Jews who deplore anti-semitism?
Are you saying bigotry against Mormons is acceptable?
How does questioning latent bigotry constitute "playing the victim"?
Are you playing the victimm too, or merely rationalizing perpetration?
(For the record - I do not belong to any church, but attend several [non-denomiational] on occasion - not that it is any of your business)
"Yeah right... play the victim of bigotry and discrimination. And SURE you are not LDS..."
Why do you have a hard time beliving a non-LDS person would still be opposed to anti-Mormon behaviour? Is it only Jews who deplore anti-semitism?
Are you saying bigotry against Mormons is acceptable?
How does questioning latent bigotry constitute "playing the victim"?
Are you playing the victimm too, or merely rationalizing perpetration?
(For the record - I do not belong to any church, but attend several [non-denomiational] on occasion - not that it is any of your business)
hmmm | 10:37 a.m. March 23, 2009
Once again GeeBee makes the same assuption: that anyone who doesn't bash
the LDS church must be myopic
Debby | 10:46 a.m. March 23, 2009
I lived in New England for many years (my husband is from Boston) and you would
never hear so much bigotry against the Catholic church as you do here against
the Mormon church. Why is it tolerated? It's one thing to think a building
is ugly and state that, but the venom in these blogs is unbelievable.
Illuminated | 10:50 a.m. March 23, 2009
I am so grateful for temples. My wife and I were sealed in the San Diego temple
7 years ago.
We've had wonderful marriage even with a few bumps along the way. I think this is in large part because of the eternal covenants we have made with each other. We try to get back as much as we can.
I know that the temples are a place of God and that the Lord himself is directing this great church through true and living prophets today. I invite everyone, everywhere to partake of the "fruit" of the tree which is the Temple.
We've had wonderful marriage even with a few bumps along the way. I think this is in large part because of the eternal covenants we have made with each other. We try to get back as much as we can.
I know that the temples are a place of God and that the Lord himself is directing this great church through true and living prophets today. I invite everyone, everywhere to partake of the "fruit" of the tree which is the Temple.
San Diego Temple | 10:54 a.m. March 23, 2009
Believe it or not, the San Diego Temple was designed by Catholic Architects
employed by the Church. Again, all in the eye of the beholder, but I believe
the Temples are all beautiful in their own right. The Draper and Bountiful
Temples are designed in what is now called a "Mayan" design after some
of the ancient temples built by the Mayans in South America.
GeeBee | 11:15 a.m. March 23, 2009
@ hmmm...
Having a difference of opinion does not equal bashing. Pointing out facts that refute your particular worldview is also not bashing. Wake up.
Having a difference of opinion does not equal bashing. Pointing out facts that refute your particular worldview is also not bashing. Wake up.
Anonymous | 11:18 a.m. March 23, 2009
I find it empowering every time I read opposition to anything that is good in
this world. Members of the church and community as a whole, need not pay any
attention to or validate an individuals insignificance by responding to their
mind-numbing ignorance and insecurity. After all, it would be worse if these
intellectually challenged individuals kept quiet. They should be appreciated for
exposing the "STUPID CRIMINAL SYNDROME" they are infected with and we
collectively should have empathy for them and seek to find a cure for what is
ailing them so they will be rid of this syndrome once and for
all>>>> Wait a minute, the cure has already been discovered
"All the Human race is created Equal." Try to stay focused.....We will
just have to live with and get along with these "STUPID CRIMINALS".
Warning! | 11:18 a.m. March 23, 2009
Please don't feed the trolls.
kenny | 11:44 a.m. March 23, 2009
Ok this fight is over the temple and how it looks. You people will fight over
anything!!!!!!
Please shut this site down for awhile.This site is just a place where people can bash the church and then good people trying to defend it but then turn around and bash the bashers. Nothing good is coming out of this.
Personally I dont think God is on either side when it comes to this blog.
Please shut this site down for awhile.This site is just a place where people can bash the church and then good people trying to defend it but then turn around and bash the bashers. Nothing good is coming out of this.
Personally I dont think God is on either side when it comes to this blog.
K | 11:47 a.m. March 23, 2009
To Debbie
Believe me Massachusetts isn't that nice to Catholics anymore. There are protesters actually going in our churches and Catholic Charities can't do adoptions anymore cause they were only placing with married heterosexual couples.
Believe me Massachusetts isn't that nice to Catholics anymore. There are protesters actually going in our churches and Catholic Charities can't do adoptions anymore cause they were only placing with married heterosexual couples.
Anonymous | 12:14 p.m. March 23, 2009
To Cats
GIVE IT A BREAK. YOU ARE NOT GOING TO CHANGE THE THINKING OF ANYONE NOR THEY CHANGE YOURS... COOL DOWN AND HAVE A MOUSE OR SOME CATNIP. Good day.
GIVE IT A BREAK. YOU ARE NOT GOING TO CHANGE THE THINKING OF ANYONE NOR THEY CHANGE YOURS... COOL DOWN AND HAVE A MOUSE OR SOME CATNIP. Good day.
Brian | 12:17 p.m. March 23, 2009
I think the anti-Mormon haters that are posting here are missing the whole
point! The Church is a private entity that functions in its own sphere. It
paid for the land. It obtained the permits. Etc. If it's ugly to you,
I'm sorry. Buy your own land and build your own temple to your own God.
Surely You Jest | 12:41 p.m. March 23, 2009
Just because some people think the temple architecture is ugly makes them
"anti-Mormon haters"? A bit sensitive aren't we?
hmm | 12:46 p.m. March 23, 2009
GeeBee | 11:15 a.m. March 23, 2009
@ hmmm...
"Having a difference of opinion does not equal bashing. Pointing out facts that refute your particular worldview is also not bashing. Wake up."
I agree - to a point: But I think you do exactly what you deplore in others. It is myopic to think that arguing against critics is automatically myopic. Your posts often reflect that mentality and I think that is bashing.
BTW I am awake
@ hmmm...
"Having a difference of opinion does not equal bashing. Pointing out facts that refute your particular worldview is also not bashing. Wake up."
I agree - to a point: But I think you do exactly what you deplore in others. It is myopic to think that arguing against critics is automatically myopic. Your posts often reflect that mentality and I think that is bashing.
BTW I am awake
JT | 12:48 p.m. March 23, 2009
I don't happen to care for the exterior design of the temple either. I do
find the Oquirrh Mountain temple design a little more appealing. What really
disgusts me, however, is the mansions built right around the Draper temple, in
diametric opposition to the covenants LDS members make regarding consecrating
everything they have to the "building of the kingdom" (not the
building of their houses). Oh, wait, all those houses are probably inhabited by
those who aren't LDS, right? Sure thing.
Charles | 12:50 p.m. March 23, 2009
BeeGee...good to see that you are still spreading your version of love and
wisdom!
Brian | 12:52 p.m. March 23, 2009
Sorry, I think you're right- I was overly sensitive.
I think it was the strong implication that my religion is somehow related/similar to communism that got my goat.
I think it was the strong implication that my religion is somehow related/similar to communism that got my goat.
Tootin Putin | 1:06 p.m. March 23, 2009
Now that you mention it, your religion is somewhat related/similar to communism
(or at least used to be). Have you never studied the United Order? That was
one of your prophet Brigham Young's revelations. Oops. Another bad
revelation.
My 2 cents worth | 1:13 p.m. March 23, 2009
I love the Temples--all of them. But I certainly like the DESIGN of some of
them better than others. I also don't mind peoples' differing
opinions on architecture. But I get really tired of all the negativeness in
comments. And it does seem to me (I don't live in Utah) that some people
stretch really hard at almost every story to find something to criticize about
the LDS Church.
Why bother?
Why bother?
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