They say it would lock up too much acreage, inhibit repairs in national parks
I agree with you Fred. Would be so good if everyone just got along and were
intellectually honest. The problem with the omnibus lands bill, is that it was
stuffed with a lot of bad stuff. And a majority of the titles were individual
measures that had never been debated, or even had a hearing on. They were just
stuffed into the big bill just because ---the people in power, the Democrats,
could. They could. And so, they did. WIthout following regular order. Rules
matter. Process matters. So while there may be some good things in the bill,
we shouldn't reward bad behavior and bad process because it will only invite
more of the same in the future. I'm glad the bill failed. Maybe they can
start-over and do it right next time. That's what we elect and pay them to
My many thanks to Bishop and Chaffetz....what the heck are our two Senators
doing? I don't even recognize them anymore. It is time for a big change in the
I thought Wash Co was booming in sprawly development and losing all its beauty
(beauty=why Utah is so different from Jersey). I've heard that lots of folks in
Wash Co support this legislation (as Fiddler mentioned). What's your beef with
wilderness areas? Why doesn't Wash Co want it? I love riding out to an expansive
view. Tell me more.-Curious
What a shame that we are so polarized and politicized, and can't have any real
dialogue about how to protect what really matters to our future generations.
Shame shame on all those who dig in their heels, make noise, and retrench,
rather than work towards finding agreement and solutions. I am rapidly losing
faith in our area politicians, who would rather posture than serve.
Thank you Bishop and Chaffetz. The real question is why did Hatch and Bennett
vote for a bill that would have such dire consequences? It just shows once again
that we need to get rid of these two bozos. I will vote for anyone who runs
against Bennett this next cycle. I have had it with both of them.
It's a bad bill and will always be a bad bill. Props to Bishop and Chafetz.
Hurrah for Rob Bishop and Jason Chaffetz! Two very rare voices of sanity and
fiscal responsibility in a large herd of mostly ignorant pork producers.Keep on fighting the bloat and waste!The real question
is:WHY DID MATHESON VOTE FOR ANOTHER WASTEFUL PORK FILLED BILL?Is
Matheson the fiscally responsible person he claims to be, or just another puppet
where Speaker Nancy "Plane Ride" Pelosi pulls the strings?Inquiring
voters want to know!
The defeat was a disservice to Utah. Bishop and Chaffetz should be ashamed for
trying to undo what many Utahns put into that bill. The Washington County
provision is a multiple-purpose land use bill to advance both development and
RE To lost in DC, from 5:14 pm. you say blame, I say credit.
Ummm -- you missed Bishops point, Miss New Jersey. It was that we should not
create NEW units of the national Park System WHEN we already have a $5 billion
dollar backlog of Park Service repairs and maintenance on existing parks AND
also that the Natioanl Park Service Didn't Recommend the New Jersey proposal as
a new unit of their system! So New Jersey congresspeople were trying to ram it
down the throats of the natioanl park service, and the US Taxpayer. If your
butterfly gardens are so neat, let the New Jersey taxpayers foot the bill, not
the rest of us!!!
The last thing this country needs is more wilderness areas--and we certainly
don't need and don't want it in Washington County.Before we're
through with Obama and this Democratic Congress, we'll all going to fell like
we've been run over by a herd of elephants (or donkeys). It's no wonder Congress
has the lowest approval rating of any congress in the history of this country.
This bill isn't dead, it needed 2/3 this time but on 1/2+ next. Nice to see
Bishop and Chaffetz doing some good.
Great job Bishop. I'm proud to call you my representative. Hatch and Bennett,
I'm proud I voted to give you term limits every time you ran. Chafetz, I'm
still undecided about you, how can you be good when you are affiliated with
Huntsman the Younger? But still I have an open mind.
Sorry. I didn't make it throught the whole article (so many articles so little
time). Guess you are right. We CAN blame the GOP for everything!
GOP did it ALONE? - please read the article, it said it needed a 2/3 majority
because of some parlimentary rule, so yes, the minority repubs were able to stop
Sooo.... The GOP did it? Just the GOP? All alone? When they are in the
minority?Hmmm...Let's just blame the GOP for everything
we don't like. It seems to be working.
Nor do we care. the fact is if the government can not keep up on the current
parks, they have little room to ask for more. If it is important to New Jersey
- then add it as a State park.It is time for the federal government
to get out of the business of locking up land in a state just to make it last
forever - let the state make decisions within the state.
Bonnie and/or Jim S., could you please educate us about the Paterson cite? Most
of us know little to nothing about it.
Here's what the NorthJersey Record Newspaper says about Bishop's claim:"Rep. Rob Bishop, R-Utah, mocked the falls preservation, saying the bill would
preserve a brewery, a butterfly garden and condominiums. Bishop's office did not
immediately return a call seeking details about the charge, however, and the
bill makes no mention of such things.It's possible Bishop was
relying on an idea for the site conceived but never executed when Jim McGreevey
was governor earlier in this decade."Bishop should get his facts
right before speaking on the House floor.
If Bishop and Chaffetz had their way, the whole country would be covered in
pavement and oil rigs. Maybe they should move to New Jersey because that's
their vision for Utah.
Rep. Bishop doesn't have a clue some of what he's railing against. He has
totally misrepresented the Paterson, NJ proposal, and used his misunderstanding
as one reason to defeat the bill. Gee, seems like Utahns get upset
when eastern legislators try to pass bills dealing with Utah lands - with the
reasoning that easterners don't have a clue what the west is all about and the
hardships we suffer at the hands of the federal government. I doubt
the good Representative has ever been to Paterson or knows the significance or
history of the Great Falls located there.Next time he goes off on a
tangent about how misunderstood Utah people and lands are, I hope he recognizes
his own hypocrisy.
Great job. Hang in there.
Hang in there REPs. On the senate side, however, I would like to see our
senators introduce a term- limits bill.
Congrats to Bishop and Chaffetz.