Comments about ‘Lawmakers OK liquor reforms’

Rather than promoting drunkenness and sloth, the legislature should be promoting an informed electorate. The legislature should be promoting the old fashioned values that made this Country great: temperance, prudence, moderation, and self-control.

This is ridiciouls. Keep it they way it is I dont need the state documenting everytime I walk into a club. I cant believe we keep voting these people into office so they can pass these idiotic laws. Enjoy it while it lasts because the LDS population in this state is dwindling as we speak.

IF the story is accurate Utah will NOT see anymore new national chains or local eateries start up that want to be able to serve alcohol because the barrier will put them at a cost disadvantage and they will be perceived as "odd" when someone goes from one restaurant to another the question will be why the old Chili's not have a wall but the new one does. So Sen. Waddoups gets his feel good "Zion Wall" to "protect the children". Here's a suggestion how bout we EDUCATE our children and take personal responsibility instead of asking the legislature to do it for us.

Heppy to see the end of the membership for private clubs, but very disappointed to see the portion dealing with drink prepartion. The idea that adults or children will be tempted to turn to alcohol because they witnessed a drink being made is asinine, even for the LDS people in Utah. If you and your family have so little self control and self morality perhaps the issue is with you, and not a bartender preparing a drink for someone else.

Perhaps this should be expanded. Movie stores should keep anything above a G rating in an "adults only" area. WalMart should keep their ammunition and weapon area in a "closed to children" area (This actually makes sense but will never fly in Gun-loving Utah). KBYU should be the only TV station offered in Utah. Highlights will be the only magazine available in the state of Utah.

Republicans in Utah will claim that guns don't kill people, people with guns kill people, but have no issue with children being exposed to deadly weapons at the grocery store. But your children seeing an alcoholic beverage being prepared risks their safety and future. Hypocrisy at its best. Big brother wins.

C'mon legislature, let it go. If you are serious about drunk driving, take away the offender's driver's license FOR LIFE. That will end drunk driving. Don't give second chances to drunks.

But public safety is not what this is about. Distraction and control are the real issues.

I guess they don't do a good job at explaining things on capitol hill.
I still do not know of I can order a glass of wine when I am forced to go somewhere horrid like the Olive Garden for dinner, or am I going to have to leave my LDS families table to enjoy a glass of wine in the "bar area" that is safe from the children?

Do these idiots on capitol hill realize that kids drink on the weekends and some other kids house and are not belly up to a bar in a Food Establishment.
Seriously, how many times has The great and knowledgeable Waddoups seem a child having a beer with his dad at a restaurant? Maybe in Europe where they have less alcoholism and alcohol related crimes (due to the fact that they educate their young and not try to hide them from everything).

These idiots on capitol hill need to be voted out. We are AMERICANS deserve more freedom, even you LDS people should be able to understand that Utah is still part of this great nation and not a Theocracy.
Get a clue Capitol Hill.

promoting an informed electorate, then inform us show us the evidance for your claims simple stating your opinion does nothing to inform others.

The bottom line: this PROPOSED law would result in more underage drinking, more drunk driving, and more deaths caused by drunk drivers. It would help people get drunk faster and more conveniently.

There must be a typo, I thought the drinking age was 21, not 35.

Seriously, how is this supposed to work? Age is something definite, but appearance is entirely subjective. Who decides who "appears" under 35? The patron? The bartender? The DABC?

And what about regular customers who may appear under 35 but are known to be of age? Do they need to be scanned every time they come in the door?

I hope this provision gets deleted as intrusive, unreasonable, arbitrary, and unenforceable. ID people who appear underage, and leave everyone else alone.

"Prepare Drinks Out Of Sight Of The Public"
Only In Utah.

@Reality check
Here's a suggestion. How about you get educated on how to use commas and avoid run-on sentences. Your poor writing style only highlights the lack of insight in your comments.

Adding one little wall is not going to create "cost disadvantages". Furthermore, when people go to Chili's, they're usually more concerned about the menu and what they can get from the menu, rather than seeing how their drink is prepared.

Nothing explains the idiocy of this whole process better than that photo of four men who presumably never drink alcohol announcing laws that will restrict the ability of law-abiding adults to engage in a legal activity!

Such a waste of time.

Could lose their car? Could lose their license? Why not make those consequences mandatory and leave responsible drinkers alone?

Questions - do all states have information electronically encode in their drivers licenses? What do our friends from other countries use to show the doorman to get in?

Also cartman, most repeat dui offenders do not have drivers licenses, nor do they have insurance.

"promoting drunkenness?"

Is that the same as saying Utah's high caloric intake promotes obesity?

I'm so glad Waddoup is comfortable. Seriously, can't you find something better to be offended by? Or "choose" to be offended by. I don't drink, don't plan to ever, but don't see why a new restaurant should have to have a WALL. I am not offended by the bar in a lot of restaurants. I choose not to eat there, but feel like other people should be able to if that is what they want and it's perfectly LEGAL for them to have their drink with their dinner.

Agreed, if the reason to go to Chili's is to eat dinner, then why all the fuss about an adult over 21 being served a drink at a table across the restaurant?

If that simple fact of seeing a drink being mixed can cause an adult or child to turn to alcohol and ruin the fabric of Utah society, what does that say about the LDS in Utah? They like to tell "outsiders" to leave the state if they don't like the laws; how about leaving a restaurant and going to Leatherbye's or Hogi Yogi if you don't want to see a drink being PREPARED.

This whole idea seems a little like socialism. Does big brother in Utah control every facit of our lives?

I'm LDS and I think the liquor laws in this state are ridiculous. I applaud Huntsman for trying to get rid of the stupidity and make the laws more like the rest of the country. It just makes good business sense to normalize the laws. I agree with most of the comments here that teaching children about the alcohol should be done in the home. The 'Zion's wall' and preparing drinks out of sight. Come on! I admit that I, unfortunately, voted for Waddups in November. Trust me, I won't make that mistake again.

Put the matter to a vote of the people. If the majority of the people want the state to be a dry state, then so be it.

nice reference. as in, "water down" this whiskey, it's too strong straight. as in, "water down" this bill, it's too strong for the pure, anointed and lily-white chosen ones running the state.

well done, utahhh.