Comments about ‘Guns in cars gets protection’

Oh boy, more opportunity for criminals to get a hold of guns...

A constitutional right should trump a company policy. More legally-owned guns mean less crime. It's been proven again and again. Just because anti-gun nuts are ignorant doesn't change that fact. Every public place, or place where the public has a right to be, should respect an individual's right to exercise Second Amendment rights, including parking lots, churches, malls, etc.

This is a great bill, and only makes sense. Good for Madsen.

I know it gives me a warm fuzzy to know that if I have the misfortune of working with a wacko nut co-worker, they may only have to walk as far as the parking lot to get their hands on a gun!

I don't want your guns around me at work or at church. You're violating my rights.

Another classic example that our legislature comes from somewhere in the nineteenth century.

The second amendment is about power, control and dominion. The second amendment is the right to kill. It is only secondarily about either protection or hunting since there are now better, more-civilized, less-lethal mechanisms of both.

Liberalizing guns in cars just makes road culture all the more unsafe. Entirely too many hotheads, fatheads and flakes on the road as it is without making it easier to arm them.

What happened to property rights? The state is mandating what is allowed on private property? If there's a shooting, Utah will pick up the liability costs?

With more Utahans getting laid off this will may a tragic outcome more likely.

More guns in the hands of law abiding citizens = safer community

Criminals beware!

I grew up around guns all my life and always felt safe when out hunting with friends and family until I joined the military. Now I am petrified of people walking around with something that can kill as easily as a firearm and learned there is a small percentage of people that are looking for an excuss to use one on somebody, and even a larger perncentage of people that have no clue what safety means or muzzle awareness. Keep your guns at home locket up until you are on your own time. Why do people need to bring guns to work, or any other place outside of a shooting range or hunting trip?

Only an uneducated legislature would cling to the nineteenth century view that the best way to prevent crime is to arm every man, woman, and child in this State.

Re: Jan 12:16: If you have a wacko nut co-worker, then he may have a gun in his car REGARDLESS of the law. This bill will not change that probability. When its easier for the LAW-ABIDING to have guns, this truly is not a threat to other law-abiding people its a threat only to criminals or would-be criminals. Those criminals are more hesitant to attempt a crime if they know that the laws make it more convenient for the good guys to have guns. This is a great bill, and I say its about time.

Re: JG: Judging by your attitude about people not needing guns outside of a shooting range, I have a hard time believing that you served in the military.

Re: Whiggy: The criminal mindset has not changed since the nineteenth century (or any other century). They still look to prey on the weak or those they PERCEIVE to be weak. Strict gun control laws paint that perception of weakness across an entire population.

When Democrats, like Ross Romero start talking about the rights of employers and their rights to control their property, you know that the "Second Coming" is just around the proverbial corner.

That comes from the same group of thuggish slimebags, that wants to force unions on every Mom and Pop store in America. And tell you and I when we can flush our toilets.

I biggest concern here is ONCE again the Utah Legislature telling owners of private property what they can and cannot do. Something is very wrong with this picture of the Utah Leg micromanaging our lives.

Only in Utah!

Amen Pro 2nd. How can a company open to
To Jan: if they want to kill you, they aren't going to go to the parking lot to get a gun duh, their going to pull it out of their pocket and shoot you. You need to start thinking a little bit about things. Quit following the liberal talking points. Liberals think criminals are as stupid as they are. They think, "oh, the bad guy I work with is going to come to work, and realize he could lose his job if he comes in with his gun. So he will leave it outside because it's against the rules to bring it in. No, that's not how stupid criminals are. They will bring their gun in and just shoot you if they want to. THey don't HAVE to go get their gun if they don't want because some employer says they can't bring it. Think liberals. Honestly. And if they want to kill you, they aren't going to need a gun at all. There's lot's of weapons right where you work. Give me a break!

Jan,

"I know it gives me a warm fuzzy to know that if I have the misfortune of working with a wacko nut co-worker, they may only have to walk as far as the parking lot to get their hands on a gun!"

It gives me a warm feeling too. I'm sure bosses and co-workers will be extra careful about how they deal with employees and co-workers unless they want to end up dead. These second amendment nuts don't seem to grasp that everyone having a gun doesn't change the fact that the first person who is shot and killed is a casualty of their opinion.

They don't even know what is happening until it is to late. Let's hope that we aren't the first one that a crazy co-worker comes across. Make sure you have a job that isn't near the front entrance. Let it be someone else's spouse, parent or child who dies.

It is reasonable to expect people to not carry guns in places where a moment of rage can result in them choosing to kill. Make them use premeditation and drive home.

Robert,

"More guns in the hands of law abiding citizens = safer community

Criminals beware!"

You are an idiot. More guns doesn't mean a safer community. It means more people have easier access to a weapon in the heat of the moment. These people may think twice before shooting an kill someone who they are angry at if they have to drive home to get a gun, drive back and then walk into the business and use that gun. They would have hundreds of seconds where they could re-think their decision. For the first victim of that gunmen that would mean a lifetime with their family. For the second. Every one being armed is fine. Since the gunmen will die before he can do more damage but for that female manager who is sitting at her desk minding her own business and thinking about leaving in 10 minutes to pick up her 4 year old daughter from daycare it will mean that 4 year old daughter will never see her mother again just because her mother was the first person shot before the other managers could gun down the gunman.

I say make them drive home and back.

Re: JW: The inside of your car is your private property, even if its parked on someone elses property.

Re: Mahershalalhashbaz: Good point.

This is not a property rights issue. The government tells us what we can do with our property all the time. If the property is open to the public, then the public has a right to be there and exercise their constitutional rights. Many, if not most, mass shootings happen in places where guns are banned. Bad guys don't obey bans or laws. That's why their called criminals. Guns do not turn good guys into bad guys.

You are a total idiot. The point is the people that freak out and kill people, 9 times out of 10 have the gun illegally and they do not have to go home to get it, but if i have a gun maybe only one person will die not 30 like at Virginia Tech.