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By Jennifer Dobner

Associated Press

Published: Monday, March 2 2009 6:44 p.m. MST

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Too bad for him. He can transfer his credits to another school and graduate without too many more hours of work. There are consequences to actions, although people don't want to have them. He signed his agreement and the school has the right to hold their own standards and protect their image. He broke the contract and that is that.

GeeBee

BYU, the mormon-themed Soviet Union. Dissenters and truth-seekers are quickly discredited and swept away.

What a punk!!!

In the article it stated that Hardy wasn't surprised by the decision to withhold his diploma. "They obviously are choosing to dig their heels in even deeper," he said.

Who's digging their heels in deeper? The university or Hardy? He keeps bringing this whole thing to the media to try and pass the blame for his actions onto the university and the church. GROW UP!!!

Grammy

Everyone who applies to BYU must sign a document promising to live by the honor code. He knew the rules. It is not a hard thing to live. If he didn't want to abide by his word, he should have transfered to the University of Sodom.

Give it to him -

He paid for it.

iono

How stupid do you have to be? Obviously the calendar is not the issue. Get a grip

mshe33

This young man knew exactly what was at risk when he chose to not fulfill his obligations as a member of his church and the honor code of his school. The sarcastic tone he displays regarding BYU's decision to withhold a diploma, seems to say a lot about this young man's general attitude.
Time to grow up.

Do The Right Thing

Dude, if BYU requires that one be in good standing with the Honor Code than those are the rules.

Can they do that?

Yep, they're a private school.

That's like me telling you you can't run your family a certain way. You're the boss, you get to make the rules.

And....I'm pretty danged sure that these were the rules when he was at BYU, it's not like they just changed the rules to exclude him.

Anti's will whine but such is life.

You want your degree? Change your life.

In the end, you'll wish you moved away from those calendars, for what does it profit us if we gain the whole world and lose our soul?

bob calisle

this guy really thought he could graduate without attending church since 2002? how did he get this far?

Transfer

As with others who have left BYU before graduation, he can transfer his credits, sans his religion class credits, to another university, take a few more classes and graduate. He will be happier to not have a degree from BYU, BYU will be happier to not have him with a degree from their university, and life will go on without much disruption. He continues with his 15 minutes of fame for a while longer and the beefcake calenders end up on the same trendy heap of pet rocks and rubik cubes. Who cares?

Anonymous

My question is how did he have his academic endorsement all these years that he attended to earn his degree. Seems like he should have run in to this problem years ago, it wouldn't be all over the news either.

lol

"I think it's interesting that now the calendar appears to be the reason BYU is not giving my diploma."

And I think it is interesting that this guy keeps getting free advertising in the deseret news. All he is doing is using his excommunication and inability to get a diploma for self-promotion. If it were really about the degree, he would consider transferring his credits. Six months from now, we'll see another AP story about him, again with him as the not-so-anonymous source. Got to give him kudos for milking the "cheap" story for "cheap" advertising.

Clarification in order?

This is an unfortunate outcome for all involved.

Typical of Deseret News articles, misguiding statements continue to be the play of the day.

The author says "Officially, the loss of membership was for conduct unbecoming a church member. The charges were rooted in his failure to pay tithing, a lapse in other religious obligations and, according to a senior church elder, his involvement with the 2008 'Men on a Mission' calendar".

How would she know that? This claim has to be a misprint because the church does not excommunicate members for failing to live the Law of Tithing.

I'm laughing as I type this

Denied. Enjoy the fruits of your calendar.

Respect

I think if you are getting a top notch education, (which tuition is mostly financed by the Church--not the student) you'd want to respect the Church that was giving you a this gift.

Transfering is always available! But don't expect BYU to give you a diploma when you signed an agreement and then don't keep it. Maybe I'll try that with my mortgage. NOT.

law abiding

Rules are rules and laws are laws. He demonstrates his disregard for such. I just hope that he survives the challenges of life.

Anonymous

Thats so lame! He deserves his diploma despite his of campus activities!

To Anonymous

You must not be familiar with what he signed for when signing on the dotted line. He agreed to a contract, just like every other student who agrees to attend BYU. He broke the contract. He knew he would be breaking it all along and he was fine with it. He saw it coming all along. He is obviously about self-promotion so he wanted to appeal and get it in the news again, exactly what his self marketing plan is.

Contract

The honor code is a contract! If he can't be trusted to keep this contract, why should anyone trust him to keep one in his post college life???

Give him the diploma

He has done everything required for graduation.
People cheat here all the time. They go to the testing center and then tell people what is on the test and think nothing of it.
The honor code is a joke. People cheat and break the honor code all of the time. It doesn't make what they do right, but still give this guy the diploma. This guy made a mistake, but it is not like BYU has never made a mistake.

Current BYU Student

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