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Utah No. 1 in online porn subscriptions, report says
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Sevier County | 10:07 p.m. March 5, 2009
Whoa!! Sevier County and Harvard!! Who knew??
It is all a sham | 10:43 p.m. March 5, 2009
You cannot believe anything you read today. This is not to defend Utah. The
truth is that researchers change results to make points and support their own
predispositions. How many e-mails have you received citing some new law that
the evil administration has passed?
Believe nothing from the media. Believe nothing from researchers. Believe nothing from blogs. Actually don't even consider this comment.
Believe nothing from the media. Believe nothing from researchers. Believe nothing from blogs. Actually don't even consider this comment.
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Mark Twain | 11:01 p.m. March 5, 2009
Mark Twain said there are three kinds of lies; lies, damned lies and statistics!
You know, I think he was right!
Keriama | 3:13 a.m. March 6, 2009
Don't trust this Liberal, secularist, untruthful Harvard Professor. The gay
crowd are still angry with the LDS Church's involvement with Prop 8 in 2008
(and you can bet your boots this man is FOR gay marriage and is affiliated with
them in some way) and they will try anything to vilify the Mormon Church. Do not
believe everything you hear folks! Satan is at work here...the Church and saints
will be/and are being persecuted for their stance on gay marriage, abortion and
other issues. I don't live there, but I know that Utah is a great place to
be!
JG | 9:37 a.m. March 6, 2009
Those people claiming these're made up numbers produced out of anger over
the gay marriage issue are forgetting & ignoring (as it was cited in the
article) that there're been previous studies and court cases that've
shown similar numbers. One from over a decade ago involved Utahans trying to
ban PPV adult movies from hotels as a violation of "community
standards" and all the PPV people produced numbers showing HUGE consumption
of said movies by LOCALS. That was SLC based. At the time the same issue about
lack of access to the materials otherwise was cited.
MrIntuition | 2:36 p.m. March 6, 2009
Lots of LDS people go to Harvard. Lots of studies are skewed -- most, in fact.
Online porn is everywhere. A lot of it is free, in fact. Hard to quantify
that, isn't it? "Sin" is everywhere and "sinners" are
going to do their thing. The issue revolves around legislating morality which,
I submit, pretty much always drives people to do more sin. What usually works
is good parenting. LDS President McKay once said something along the lines of
"teach them good principles and let them govern themselves." Why
can't people do that? Beyond that either don't go there or shut it
off.
Rog2 | 4:50 p.m. March 6, 2009
Let's blame the study. Let's blame the author, or the zip codes, the
church and many other factors.
Let's not! The facts are in, Utahn's are the highest subscribers of online porn. Call a spade a spade.
A lot of you are angry and in denial.
Let's not! The facts are in, Utahn's are the highest subscribers of online porn. Call a spade a spade.
A lot of you are angry and in denial.
to Keriama | 5:13 p.m. March 6, 2009
You judge Harvard pretty harshly. The artical was from the Harvard Business
School. Until a couple years back, Kim Clark (now Elder Kim Clark, of the 70,
and president of BYU Idaho) was the dean there. His dean of the MBA program was
Steve Wheelwright (now Elder Steve Wheelwright of the 70, and president of BYU
Hawaii). They spent a lot of time with one of their top students, Clayton
Christenson (now Elder Clayton Christenson, of the 70), who is still a professor
at Harvard...
Don't be too quick to condemn our Harvard friends...
(The rest of Harvard can be pretty liberal, but the business school is "Swarmin' with Mormons")
Don't be too quick to condemn our Harvard friends...
(The rest of Harvard can be pretty liberal, but the business school is "Swarmin' with Mormons")
Addicted | 11:17 p.m. March 6, 2009
This article is very interesting to me, as I am an addict to pornography and
live in Utah. I attend the LDS sponsored addiction recovery group every week and
let me just get out there and say that pornography is a far greater problem than
people (in Utah and everywhere)think it is. On any given week there will be
dozens of guys there seeking help out of this addiction. I invite people
everywhere to help those who have addictions (check out LDS Family Services
Addiction Recovery Program- in select areas there are specific meetings only
for pornography/sexual addictions).
On a side note, I have never paid for pornography and see many lurking variables and holes in this study. Obviously the zip codes are to be considered, but the fact that other forms of pornography were not taken into account (cell phone, satellite tv, film, magazine, free internet porn, strip clubs, retail stores, etc.)leaves a huge margin of error. Either way though, it is a horrible thing and I wish that it had never entered my life or the life of anyone else.
On a side note, I have never paid for pornography and see many lurking variables and holes in this study. Obviously the zip codes are to be considered, but the fact that other forms of pornography were not taken into account (cell phone, satellite tv, film, magazine, free internet porn, strip clubs, retail stores, etc.)leaves a huge margin of error. Either way though, it is a horrible thing and I wish that it had never entered my life or the life of anyone else.
lol...perennial numbers | 5:12 a.m. March 7, 2009
Utah will stay this way. Year after year after year after year. Why? Because
of all the explanations, excuses, counterpoints and measures. It'll be
just like Utah, number 1 in teen suicide for 14 YEARS RUNNING.
Don't you naysayers and excusers think every other state in the nation can't come up with the EXACT same arguments??? It happened over here, it happened over there, it ain't us, it's everyone else. Look at this zipcode and that zipcode. How will Utah stay number 1? Here's how, it's thinking like this:
God knows everything that we do. Forget Big Brother.
This research, while useful, is difficult to interpret
Regardless of Mormon or Non Mormon, it is a false survey, when they don't really get the figures from both sides
How do we know its not all the gay people that are looking at porn, or everyone else?
then on-line pornography consumption in Utah seems to be independent of Mormon vs. not.
Just more lies. Twist things around why don't you.
I find that if you look for the good, life is more beautiful and peaceful.
just a few. till next year
Don't you naysayers and excusers think every other state in the nation can't come up with the EXACT same arguments??? It happened over here, it happened over there, it ain't us, it's everyone else. Look at this zipcode and that zipcode. How will Utah stay number 1? Here's how, it's thinking like this:
God knows everything that we do. Forget Big Brother.
This research, while useful, is difficult to interpret
Regardless of Mormon or Non Mormon, it is a false survey, when they don't really get the figures from both sides
How do we know its not all the gay people that are looking at porn, or everyone else?
then on-line pornography consumption in Utah seems to be independent of Mormon vs. not.
Just more lies. Twist things around why don't you.
I find that if you look for the good, life is more beautiful and peaceful.
just a few. till next year
Savant | 9:29 a.m. March 7, 2009
For some reason, the moderator is only posting one side of the argument. Those
presenting logical arguments defending Utah and the LDS Church are being
blocked. I asked some legitimate questions last night and they didn't get
posted. So I'll try again ...
1) The word hypocrite is being thrown around here a lot. Where in the article did it say that the people using on-line porn are the same people saying not to do it?
2) Where did it say the LDS Church leaders are using on-line porn?
3) How on earth does Prop 8 (a California issue) have anything to do with on-line porn use in Utah?
1) The word hypocrite is being thrown around here a lot. Where in the article did it say that the people using on-line porn are the same people saying not to do it?
2) Where did it say the LDS Church leaders are using on-line porn?
3) How on earth does Prop 8 (a California issue) have anything to do with on-line porn use in Utah?
I like naked chicks | 1:01 p.m. March 7, 2009
The saddest part of this whole thing is it proves that a large number of Utahns
arent smart enough to find free porn on the internet. Why buy it?
Re; Naked | 1:13 p.m. March 7, 2009
Nothing is free
Anonymous | 7:00 p.m. March 7, 2009
It is human nature to want to learn of that which you are not familiar. It can
be entertaining and in good nature, or it can be dangerous. I believe that
intent, both good and bad, should be given and not left up to individuals to
understand using their own limitations.
Sevier | 9:12 p.m. March 7, 2009
Sevier is a town not a county. There are probably 10 families that live there.
If one family has porn, then that makes a high percentage! Check the facts!
JJB | 10:06 a.m. March 11, 2009
Utah has the distinct honor of leading the nation as well in antidepressant
prescriptions, prescription pill abuse and suicides among young men ages 15-24.
Could there be a correlation????? All is not well in Zion. I wonder if things
would be different if people around here felt free to he honest about their
feelings. I would think that honesty is a "family value". I wonder
how many of those young men would be alive today if they lived in a place where
they could be open about their sexual feelings and sexual orientation. So
tragic! A tragedy that does not have to be!!!! Wake up Urah otherwise their
blood is on your hands.
Joe | 11:01 a.m. March 12, 2009
Once again Mormon haters, the Tribune, etc, are really gloating over some misleading stats on young Utah. Examples of things rarely mentioned: lowest birth rate to unwed mothers, low death by drunk driving (when my wife moved here from Pittsburgh, also with low rates of driving deaths, she was surprised to see beer in grocery stores, but since tourist dollars are more important than lives, to some, we only hear whining here, long and loud, about being embarrassed over Utah), nor do we hear of the studies showing low rates of mental problems and depression among LDS, etc. So they now would have us believe that Utahans are all addicted to porn because of our repressiveness, anti-gay stand, etc (name your Mormon blame), but in New York and wholesome Vegas, where it's available at every corner, whorehouse, casino, hotel, taxi, TV, and etc. and there is no need to subscribe on the internet, there, no one is looking! Theyre freed from sexuality by liberalism. Funny, but not really. This sort of misinformation and blame is what is destroying our society.
chad | 7:59 p.m. July 16, 2009
not only porn subscriptions but porn consumpsion.
Miss Kitty | 11:29 a.m. Sept. 8, 2009
There is no way to know, however, what percentage of the consumers of porn in
Utah are Mormons. Interesting that when the subject of porn in Utah is brought
up, people automatically think, "oh, those sexually repressed
Mormons." I'm just sayin'.
Anonymous | 12:11 p.m. Sept. 8, 2009
Miss Kitty, are you saying that the non-LDS population are so perverted that
they could skew the numbers that dramatically? I seriously doubt that.
Besides, that's pretty insulting to them. I'm LDS, and I don't
think the LDS people are any different than anyone else when it comes to basic
morality. I do think there is sexual repression.
bmr | 1:18 p.m. Nov. 20, 2009
Since (mostly) everyone else here are spewing completely irrelevant and
unsubstantiated "facts" just like the article's author, I thought
I would throw in my 2 bits worth of irrelevant uncorroborated information. Those
counties are also the highest concentrations of democrats. It must be the
democrats doing this.
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