Deseret News | Reader comments: Strive to obtain spiritual high ground, Elder Hales says to LDS young adults

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Obtain spiritual high ground

pramod kumar | 7:08 a.m. March 2, 2009

i am from hyderabad,india. the talk by elder hales helped me so much. especially, the four words. we cannot afford it. the prophets are really inspired and iam so grateful that we have them .

schreinervideo | 7:59 a.m. March 2, 2009

Finally, some truly wise advice for all of us from a religious leader. Think of the mess we would've avoided if Wall Street and the banks paid attention. BTW: I'm not LDS.

Anonymous | 8:03 a.m. March 2, 2009

strive the high ground, look down your nose at all others!

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4 anonymous @ 8:03 am | 10:58 a.m. March 2, 2009

I just happened to tune in and this was a wonderful talk. I'm sorry you feel looked down on. There are a lot of bad apples in the LDS barrel, but Elder Hales in not one of them. Listen to the message, ignore the idiots.

Whip | 12:35 p.m. March 2, 2009

It seems to me that it would be a much better approach and contribution for man's growth and to society if there was more emphasis on spirtualy growth and development and less soliciting of coviction to religion and the mormon church.

good advice | 1:11 p.m. March 2, 2009

I've tried lifting people up when I myself wasn't on high ground and it can cause fustration and fatigue----this talk was timely. It sounds selfish that we have to take care of ourselves in order to take care of others, but it is such common sense, who can argue otherwise? And who knows, if we lift another, some day they may be lifting us up and the cycle repeats itself over and over; sometimes we lift and sometimes we are humbled to be the one someone has to pick up.

RE: Anonymous | 8:03 | 4:15 p.m. March 2, 2009

NOt to look down on others put to pull others up.

That's what loving your neighbor is all about.

That is what true chartiy is all about,
Not to bring everyone down to a lower equal level but bring everyone up.

What Is Higher Ground? | 5:52 a.m. March 3, 2009

Remember, it's not "higher ground" to be looking down upon people. If you do that, you are on lower ground.

Anyway, the Church leaders have, since Brigham Young, preached the same message of frugality and thrift, with different emphasis at times, but still the same message: Live within your means. It's just that it's not fashionable and comfortable, so many people choose to ignore it.

Jack Spencer | 11:39 a.m. March 4, 2009

The Deseret news found this offensive the first time I tried to post it. Not sure why...

Anyway, Im not mormon, but all my friends are. My sisters husband is a mormon hater, and he shares the sentiments of some of the anonymous folks above. My only issue with him is that if the Dali Llama gave the same speech as the mormon dude about higher ground, my brother in law would be preaching the same stuff to all his quasi-buddhist nitwit buddies. By the way, there are a lot of D(irt)-bags in the world, and some of them are mormons. But if you blame a guy who is a D(irt)-bag by birth on his religionwho is the real D(irt)-bag? My friends are mormons, and only one of them is a D(irt)-bag. Grow up.

PS- To all the mormons: tell the D(irt)-bag among you they are giving you a bad name among the non mormon D(irt)-bags.

trv | 3:04 p.m. March 4, 2009

This was an inspiring talk by an inspired leader who is an example of what he teaches. Jesus Christ is the only perfect leader, but Elder Hales is a worthy and wonderful disciple of Jesus Christ. His advice and counsel is timely and helpful.

Anonymous | 4:52 p.m. March 5, 2009

One thin tha tshou pointed out is

Higher Ground has always been considered a place of safety,

a place when you can be protected more easily,

whether it be from a flood or in a battle.

Just Ed | 10:34 a.m. March 6, 2009

Hale's words are great advice for any Christian. BTW, I'm not Mormon either.

Anonymous | 2:20 p.m. March 25, 2009

Yes, young Mormons. From the spiritual high ground you can look DOWN on everybody else and makes sure they know that YOU are superior and better than everybody else!

(you arrogant people make me sick)

To Anon 4:52 p.m. | 2:57 p.m. March 25, 2009

I appreciate you pointing out a definition of Higher Ground that makes sense. Elder Hales would never tell us to look down on someone else. He is just saying to get above the floodwaters of debt & greed. This is a timely message that would help anyone, no matter if they have a religion or not.

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Elder Robert D. Hales of the Quorum of the Twelve of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints gives a quick wave to the crowd at a fireside in BYU's Marriott Center Sunday.

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