Published: Monday, Feb. 23 2009 12:07 a.m. MST
Senator Buttars reminds me of the ole Governor George Wallace of Alabama. George
said, "Segregation today, segregation tomorrow and segregation forever". What a
sad, but apt comparison.
I'm glad to hear that Ms. Storni acclaims herself as "enlightened and
progressive" as opposed to those professing a differing opinion. I suppose also
that she does not profess herself to be mean spirited by calling Mr. Buttars a
bigot for expressing his personal views, no matter how they may offend some. If
others want to steriotype all Utahns in the same category as Mr. Buttars, that
is their ignorant problem, but, sorry, it does not bother me. Any of us are
free to express their opinions no matter who they are or what office they hold.
Isn't America great?!
Reading some of the coverage of the recent live debate between the Sutherland
Institute and Equality Utah, what stood out the most to me was Sutherland
president Paul Mero's insistence that gay people don't even exist. That's
right. According to Paul, they're all just making it up, and that makes Paul an
extremist: he refuses to talk and instead tries to wish away his opponents.A little more moderation in all things, including politics, would do
The utterance of Senator Buttars was far from bigotry. The hateful speech of
'gay' activists are deily printed by the Deseret News. This is
completely unjust.As for local polls. I took part in one, that
showed those who felt that Buttars was harshly treated by the Senate. At the
time the poll was supposed to be terminated sixty percent felt that Buttars
treatment by the Senate was "too harsh", but the poll kept on going. I presume
this was so that networking 'gay' activists could win by having people sit up
all night, all over the country, to win by sheer persistence where others had to
go to work the next day.
It is sad that so much of the national news coming out of Utah centers on our
backward and embarrassing actions and quotes of our leaders. No wonder Utah has
such a hard time attracting new businesses to our state. Not long ago, there
were stories of how Utah wanted to attracted California's high tech industry...
but the state continues to shoot itself in the foot with people like Buttars and
his unapologetic bigotry against Black babies (last year) and gays (this year).
The very fact that Buttars get re-elected by his constituents confirms
non-Utahns' perception that the whole state opposes "outsiders" and is hostile
to non-whites and non-Mormons. I agree that Buttars is today's
George Wallace of Utah.
Utah has some of the nastiest far-righters I have ever seen.Draw
attention to this fact every chance you get.Never let a bigot get
away with their open bigotry.
Ok, so Buttars said some pretty asinine things. He still has a right to say it,
no matter how you paint it. His behavior toward non-LDS folk is sad and I hope
that he has a change of heart, for one will attract more flies with honey than
Maybe I'm not "enlightened" but I don't see how what Buttars said makes him a
bigot. He simply had the guts to say what many of us would like to say
publicly. The fact that he is being censured for opinion is appalling. The
fact that a minority can try to make me feel guilty because I don't agree with
what they do is disgusting.What bothers me most is that I have to be
politically correct. Political correctness is a front for an attack on the
conservatives. There is an attack on conservative values. They are values
which have upheld this nation and many other nations until fascism and
liberalism explains away the values which brought prosperity. Homosexuality
does not bring prosperity, only depravity. We will likely find this out the
hard way as we accept this sexual deviancy and our moral atmosphere declines
even further which does affect more than just peoples bedrooms. Sexual
depravity affects our children our morals and our spirituality, and these all
affect our economy our prosperity and our happiness.
I will never let you get away with your pro-gay, anti-Utah bigotry, no matter
how many boring, hateful totally predictable posts you make on every subject.
So let me understand this. It's okay for gays and so-called gay rights activists
to verbally and physically attack the LDS church (its doctrines, members and
buildings) all in the name of attaining their rights, but its bigotry for
someone to say they think homosexuality is a sin and the gay rights tactics are
similar to terrorists? This is typical homosexual tactics to accuse
people of bigtry and mean-spiritedness who does not happily and fully embrace
their abnormal lifestyle. Watch carefully America and see where we
are headed because they will not stop until they are fully accepted and if
anyone disagrees they will be persecuted into silence.
I am ecstatic to hear that we are making national news over this and I am hoping
the rest of the country does look at us as "backward." Then they won't come
here. If we keep them out then the homosexual population in Utah will die out on
its own or if we are really lucky, they will get tired of our "backward" ways
and move out!
Dominique: The argument here is not whether gay people should have equal rights,
but what are the "rights" that should be equal. If we could come up with a
definition of what things are "rights" that we could agree on, the problem would
be solved.I have no problem with gay people having equal rights.
They already do. The things they are pushing for go well beyond rights, and
begin to look a lot like special treatment.
Please leave. I believe California and Massachusetts would welcome you. I here
there great places to live.
Dominique: your apostasy is showing.
...the fact of the matter is that people have a right to agree or disagree, not
rocket science. If people don't like it here in Utah, then leave, move to
California or Massachusetts. This a conservative state and honestly looking at
the dreaded mess the left and right coasts are in, I hope it stays conservative.
It's not backwards at all, it's just that we believe in traditional marriage.
People have a right not to be politically correct.Again, not rocket
Why is it that gay supporters (no pun intended) believe that they are
"enlightened and progressive" and that those who disagree with their agenda are
"backward, bigoted, false, and stereotypical...."? With these statements they
prove that they could not be further from the truth. Only the
self-delusional can ignore history and still claim to be informed. Tiberius
Caesar predicted Rome's downfall if the growing practices of "men's attraction
to boys and men" was not curtailed. And then there was Sodom and Gomorrah. Like the deaf who attempt to convince those who can hear that there is
no sound, only the ignorant can claim to be enlightened when they ignore the
real truth that overarches this mortal world. To pronounce that you
were a "Mormon youth" as if it were your credentials, only proves at one time
you were taught to hear, but are now deaf and want others to believe that
hearing is "old school". This is not only bigotry but true
hypocrisy. All beings deserve respect but not their choices, acts or lies.
"I believe California and Massachusetts would welcome you"Like
Massachusetts welcomed Mitt Romney and his tolerance of gay people?LOL!
I firmly believe Buttars has the right to say whatever he pleases. And I have
the right to vote for him or not. Based solely upon his comments, I would not be
comfortable voting for him. It's that simple.Had he stated his
position more respectfully and thoughtfully (as behooves any politician), that
would be one thing, but he is getting dangerously close to Westboro Baptist
Church territory here.I strongly disagree with his opinions (at
least on this issue), and his manner of expressing them only makes matters
I will not leave. You leave. Move to Iran if you want your country run by a
religious cult. This is the USA and we are suppose to be about freedom. A word
you reich winger love to spout but have no understanding of.
To all you bigots out there, how are you any different than the Westboro Baptist
Church? How is Chris Buttars different than Fred Phelps?
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