Comments about ‘Report estimates revenue loss from Idaho wolves’

I live in Idaho and can tell you only worthless people like Wolves.
With the available big-game numbers going down, there are also fewer hunters. The democracts and liberals, I mean the American socialists, have pushed for Wolves (non-native Canadian wolves, mind you) so eventually there will be no need for hunters. Once the hunters have been removed, they can push for the removal of guns, as there won't be any other 'reason' for a person to have them.
Wolves - remove Elk/deer - remove hunters - remove guns.

Although I do not necessarily agree with the outcome predicted, I also can say that most Idahoans (especially ranchers, hikers, hunters, and other outdoorsmen) have some pretty strong negative feelings about the wolves. I remember when they were first introduced to Yellowstone Park - the environmentalists all said, "Oh, the wolves will stay in Yellowstone - you ranchers (etc.) have nothing to worry about". Yeah, right.

This is an example of true Socialism.

I have visited in Idaho eight times since the wolves were reintroduced. Eight times spending money there as I went to Yellowstone to see these animals. Before the reintroduction - Zero visits.

The wolves keep the elk and deer herds healthier. Stronger animals survive to reproduce and that means better animals for the hunters and tourists both.

"The report relies heavily on a 1994 environmental impact statement related to the introduction of wolves to Yellowstone National Park, and then extrapolates those numbers."
So let me get this right-they took estimates from before the wolves were released, then extrapolated more numbers? Umm, there are enough people out there keeping tabs on the wolves that we should already have some real data. Why extrapolate numbers based on a 1994 estimate instead of looking at actual kill rates? What a waste of taxpayer money.

Anyone who considers this "data with real science behind it" is VERY gullible.

Why does Idaho Game and Fish have to go back to a 1994 guess about how many elk would be killed if wolves were released? Why don't they have some real information by now? If they haven't been monitoring the wolves, why aren't they? If they have, where are the real numbers?

Were they hoping nobody looked to closely at how they came up with this?
This is rather insulting to the intelligent hunter, did they assume we were all too stupid to read more than the headline?

To "Davis"

I don't need to see any stupid government reports as I see first hand on my ranch the disappearing of the elk and deer herds. Wolves don't keep herds in check...stupid statement as wolves kill just to kill and will leave the animals laying on the ground....for a hundred years the cougars have kept the herds in check in and around my ranch, and they only kill what they need to survive....I don't let hunters on my place, as i love to see the game in the morning and the evening but now days the wolves have just about chased all of the game away, and i rarely see a cougar anymore.....now those are true facts Davis

To Davis, While Yellowstone Park appreciates your patronage the rest of us in Idaho would rather people like you stayed out of our state. If you truly enjoy watching the wolves dont worry about the travel expense just leave your name and mailing address and Idaho will mail you your very own pack of wolves.

I would recommend getting your hands on a copy of Playing God in Yellowstone, written by Alston Chase. Fairly enlightening of the blatant corruption and mismanagement of the Yellowstone National Park.

But really we have a false sense of the wilds in the West, mainly because we aren't maintaining it like the Indians did, burning it regularly. We have the idea of a less than mature forest, from the middle of the 20th Century, but really what we have is a rapidly maturing old growth forests capable of sustaining little wildlife. Small, regular wildfires increase the game potential of the land, many, many times.

But ungulate explosion is real, especially when coupled with a non-native species(Elk are not found in the fossil/archeological history of the park and much of Idaho), add the instituted destruction of predators, wolves, cougars and then the bears.

Most of the pictures of the Park, when it was ran by the Army especially, are totally artificial due to the large number of herbavores being forced by into the park, and then needing feed to keep them from starving in the winter. When the numbers of herbavores decreased due to population pressure, predators were blamed and eliminated.

So many misconceptions abound about the wolves coming back to Yellowstone, and I dont have a problem with them utterly destroying a non-native species like Elk.