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Published: Thursday, Feb. 19 2009 12:00 a.m. MST

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dave

This is just another attempt by Republicans to disenfranchise the poor and undereducated.

Anonymous

I guess we could just implant a patriot chip in everyone's body.

Soul

I have a legal and effective method for instantly increasing the voters turn out by at least 15%. Within two voting cycles, I can have 80% of all eligible voters in Utah participating, voting in each and every election there after.

However, I am not sharing my ideas without some fair compensation. My ideas are my livelihood.

lj

Now help pass a federal law which states that no child born on USA soil through non US parents automatically becomes a US citizen!

Good start

Now pass a law that you must prove citizenship to get in-state tuition.
Or maybe a driver's license.
Oops! Now I've gone over the line.

Clem

Ignoring immigration laws leads to disrespect of all laws. Why do you think so many illegal aliens turn to criminal activity for their livelihood?

weezie

If you notice who is complaining, ACLU, etc..It sounds great to me. Thank you Utah State Senate.

@weezie

so weezie why dont you explain to us why the concerns expressed in this article are not right? Try actually making an adult argument instead of snid comments.

to lj

How many generations should we go before someone born on American soil is considered a US citizen?

vote

What are the Republicans in this State so afraid of. Wasting time on passing legislation that isn't even and issue - they even say it is not a problem and can't imagine it being a problem. What are the Republicans afraid of?

Stewart

So, the ACLU in this article states that ten percent of those on disability can't document that they are citizens. That begs the question, how are they then eligible for disability benefits?? It looks like ten percent of those getting benefits perhaps are not entitled to them.

I doubt that very many illegal aliens vote, even though it was proved that prior to the change in the driver's license motor voter laws that perhaps hundreds of illegal aliens actually voted. Still if we don't have confidence in the electoral process, not much else in government counts. This is a good law, because some of those prior 2005 illegal alien voters are still registered.

lost in DC

Stewart, it was the spokesman for the disability law center that mentioned the $200 figure. the ACLU gave no reason (at least not in the article) for voting against the bill.

I appreciate the other opponents of the bill at least giving reasons for their opposition, but all the ACLU could do was say "please don't vote for it" - pathetic.

some have said illegals voting in Utah is not a problem. The sponsor recognizes it is not a problem - yet. He wants to have measures in place before it becomes a problem. That's why you put a guard rail along side the cliff when the road is built, not AFTER the cars start falling off.

Poll Official

The preceeding article does not make it clear whether proof of citizenship is to be shown when one registers to vote or each time one goes to the polls. I'd like clarification on that.

It's logical to insure that people meet the existing requirements of the law - being a citizen is a requirementt for voting. It's illogical to insist that this important requirement of the law be ignored because following the law is a "hardship".

what?

I don't think having confidence in the voting process in this manner will do anything toward making people more interested in voting. It seems like a bureaucratic roadblock to me.

Rufus

I think non residents or illegal residents voting IS a problem. It is illegal. I think that instead of making it EASIER to vote, we should REQUIRE some knowledge of the issues or a test. So many people vote and do not have a clue about what they are voting for or against.

Publius

Poll Official - The bill requires that proof of citizenship be shown when registering... but if it is not the County Clerk is supposed to "print a nottion" in the official register (the book everyone signs) requiring the voter to show proof of citizenship at the poll. If they can not do this then they vote a provisional ballot. The Poll Workers will have to check and decide the validity of some people's proof of citizenship.

Trent

Rufus, I totally agree that it's too easy to vote, and I'd like to see something like you propose. It'll be tough because the only approaches I've considered involve some kind of testing, which is subjective (especially in the creation process) and which costs money to create and judge. But keep talking about it and maybe it'll get some traction.

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