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Huntsman still popular despite civil unions flap

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  • Reality
    March 5, 2009 8:56 a.m.

    Aw Utah. Reading the majority of these comments just reinforces the fact that the only good thing coming out of utah is I-15!

  • slbison
    Feb. 22, 2009 1:17 p.m.

    Best manager we have had in years... if you looked elsewhere... besides a KSL poll... his ratings would be even higher...

  • Anonymous
    Feb. 21, 2009 8:21 p.m.

    Gov. Huntsman, you have earned my greatest respect by standing up for what is right in front of one of the most bigoted publics in the world! You give me hope that there are some politicians who still understand the power of individual liberty and the promise of equality in America!

  • Booo-
    Feb. 21, 2009 8:19 a.m.

    booo, Gov. Huntsmen- I knew this guy was a bad seed when he worked with the gov. from cali. on that enviro crap. Booo - he is not speaking for the people of Utah. He is a fare left Rep. I am not happy with this guy.

  • Not proud
    Feb. 21, 2009 3:44 a.m.

    I am not proud of this governor nor the fact that I voted for him. He doesnt seem to have true moral backbone. And for Justice trying to compare the LDS church to the KKK is ridicules. I seem to remember the mob mentality in California, protesting at our temples and vandalizing them and assaulting people. But I know that they seem to forget that real easy.
    Common Ground has one agendaDestroying family. Plain and simple. And they are doing it under the guise of bigotry.

  • Me No Likey Huntsman, Cuz...
    Feb. 20, 2009 9:08 a.m.

    I'm disappointed with Gov. Huntsman. I think he's embarrassed by the majority of the population here, and continually tries to pander to progressive ideas rather than actually attempting to find his own solutions to the real challenges that face Utahns. Civil Unions is not an important issue in this state. Liquor Laws are not an important issue in this state. This state has a HUGE number children and families per capita that need the support of their elected officials. Meanwhile our universities are facing budget cutbacks, and the state's schools need more assistance. They need less social re-engineering, and more actual technical support. Huntsman doesn't seem interested in state issues that will help Utahns. From what I've observed he's more interested in scoring points at a national level, taking mainstream national issues on, rather than those that actually impact Utahns. Essentially turning Utah into every other generic, uninteresting and depressed state in this nation.

  • BUT
    Feb. 19, 2009 5:49 p.m.

    BY CONTRAST, BUTTAR'S POPULARITY DOES NOT SLIP, NO MATTER WHAT.

  • nolovelosthere
    Feb. 19, 2009 3:00 p.m.

    Hey Guv, thanks for siding with the special interests. Makes us feel our opinions and votes really count. Maybe you can get Steve (can you feel the love?)and Barbara Young to move here and help convince the majority of citizens in Utah to PLEASE (sob)make this state a refuge for gays?

  • CougarKeith
    Feb. 19, 2009 9:31 a.m.

    Huntsman supporting "Civil Unions" is a clear shot at his own ambitions at the Presidency of the United States one day. It is an anti-marriage ploy that goes against the grain of every deep rooted Utahn with morality and intent on saving money for the state as well! If you want benefits for your "significant Other" then marry them, if they are the same sex as you, then move to another state, it's not proper or acceptable here! I am sad at the state of the state on morality issues in Utah. We of all people should know better! Dig in your heels and hold fast to what is right!

  • To: 2 Cents
    Feb. 19, 2009 8:33 a.m.

    The LDS Church made a statement, which is availabe in the LDS newsroom, saying that they do not OPPOSE civil unions and basic rights like hospital visitation. They did not say they SUPPORT them. There is a world of difference between agreeing with something, with giving it your approval and support, and with not flat-out opposing it.

    From a doctrinal point, the LDS church teaches that gay unions of any kind are immoral, as is ANY union beyond legally recognized marriage between members of the opposite sex. The church does not support any union other than marriage between man and woman.

    While the LDS church leadership chooses not to condemn civil unions with the same language that it condemns gay marriage, it has yet to come out in support of them, either. To do so would go against doctrine we believe comes from God Himself.

    If you want proof of this, perhaps you should read the links you googled, and pay attention to the language used. I would also read The Family: A Proclamation To The World if you're still confused as to which unions the LDS church supports and which ones it does not.

  • Re: RE 2 Cents
    Feb. 18, 2009 7:41 p.m.

    Nice statement you make, that the church does not support civil unions. Care to back it up with any sort of proof?

    I googled LDS church civil unions and found many links to the LDS newsroom supporting my claim.

  • Troy
    Feb. 18, 2009 7:30 p.m.

    People will make mistakes in their lives but it is our job to let them live the lives that they want to live unless it directly influences our own lives.

    Let gays have civil unions, why would you want to deny a group the ability to attain as much comfort they can in our society?

    Remember guys, the devil plays both sides of politics and as long as people are fighting he is happy with the result.

    Quit playing into the devils hands by hating in the name of God, or denying freedom in the name of God, let people live free lives, even if it is a lifestyle that you disagree with.

    Oh, how far we as a people have fallen.

    Troy

  • Troy
    Feb. 18, 2009 7:30 p.m.

    An earlier leader said something that I have always agreed with. He said the best way to govern was to:

    "Teach people proper principles and let them govern themselves"

    Many people in Utah have forgotten that a part of letting people govern themselves is actually letting them do things that you disagree with.

    Remember that whole teaching about the "war in heaven" and how it was fought over the right for agency? Why then would you want to take away something that all of you supposedly fought for?

  • RE: 2 Cents
    Feb. 18, 2009 6:43 p.m.

    The Church does not support civil unions.

  • my two cents
    Feb. 18, 2009 1:19 p.m.

    Last I checked, the church's official statement is that they are against gay marriage but support civil unions.

    You wouldn't know it by the posts above.

    Now who's not following the prophet?

  • Mikey
    Feb. 18, 2009 10:27 a.m.

    All of us will be judged as we judge others. What is wrong with the governor standing up for equal rights for EVERY person in the state? He isn't supporting gay marriage (so you can still have the sanctity of it) and this won't benefit just homosexual couples. It is a CIVIL union, not a GAY union. When the gay marriage battle was raging, everyone was saying how the word "marriage" was such a big deal, so, we try a compromise, and you still cry out that we are evil. If you don't wan't a gay civil union, don't get one. But don't take away my right to do so. Thank GOD for Governor Huntsman, and his compassionate views to give freedom and justice to every Utahn! By the way, the Mormon church supports civil unions as well as the Governor, so what are you still complaining about?

  • Question
    Feb. 18, 2009 10:09 a.m.

    What is Super Dell's stance on this issue?

  • Anonymous
    Feb. 18, 2009 9:19 a.m.

    Lets all see if we can try to forgive Governor Huntsman for his short comings. He is probably licking his wounds by now.

  • Jasper
    Feb. 18, 2009 9:04 a.m.

    Someone looks like he is whistling Dixie. Check out the Gov-Huntsman photo on DN.

  • Interested in Texas
    Feb. 18, 2009 8:30 a.m.

    Oh please....,

    Exactly where in the constitution does it say that people will be treated with respect? I think you need to read it again or probably read it for the first time. It does not say anything about respect and at the time it did not even consider slaves as a whole person, much less give them rights. The constitution certainly does not contain anything about Civil Unions and I am sure the writers of the Constitution never imagined the debate that is taking place now would ever happen. Rather than laugh at those in Utah, I think you would do well to read and study a little more.

  • Anonymous
    Feb. 18, 2009 7:25 a.m.

    Thank you Governor! I like you more and more every day.

  • Oh please....
    Feb. 18, 2009 1:26 a.m.

    What's wrong with you guys? What happened to the meaning of the word "love"? The Far Right conservatives are hell bent on proving themselves right with values that they can't see how many of their right straight couples are terrible parents and lack in raising their own kids properly and rule their kids with a whip instead of with love. Civil Unions is a great thing! It's in the constitution that people will be treated with respect, and that's one way of showing it. Trying to fight this is only denying who you are and if you think you love people, check yourself again. It took me awhile to understand this and how important respecting civil unions is. Those who don't like this idea have a long ways to go in understanding what life is really all about and what it's meant to be. Grow up cry babies and "know-it-alls". I don't live in Utah, but I like reading the comments because once in awhile I need a good laugh and reminder why I don't live in Utah.

  • An Old Maid
    Feb. 18, 2009 12:57 a.m.

    Though i'm a very small minority here, I agree with the LDS Church and the majority of Citizens inside and outside Utah opposing these unnatural unions. What God says is wrong, is just wrong. Opinion will never change that fact. Neither will law nor protest. Simply give the gays their own country far away allowing for no adoption, and we'll see how long their natural unions sustain their communities.

  • Watch his ratings drop more
    Feb. 17, 2009 6:47 p.m.

    As Utah discovers the reality of the Huntsman "flat" tax over the next two months, watch the governor's ratings drop more. What most Utah taxpayers don't realize is that their income taxes have gone up and they will see the difference as they file their state tax return. What Huntsman's tax reform did was lower income taxes for the rich and raise them for everybody else.

  • ella
    Feb. 17, 2009 5:59 p.m.

    Will the REAL John Huntsman stand up? What is his REAL mission??? It will unfold!

  • Approval slips "a bit"?
    Feb. 17, 2009 5:22 p.m.

    I think the article and the polster are dead wrong. As more and more Utahn's learn about Mr. Huntsman's views, which are out of step with the vast majority of Utahns, his popularity will continue to decline.

  • Clever bunch
    Feb. 17, 2009 5:11 p.m.

    MY, MY! It looks like all the intellectuals are on here today? Wow, it must be the group from the government peanut gallery. Don't you people have something better to do like go out and stick your nose into somebodies personal business or find someway to rip-off the public?

  • Re: Anonymous 3:07
    Feb. 17, 2009 4:54 p.m.

    Huntsman isn't running for reelection, that's why he doesn't care what the people of Utah think anymore.

  • RE: Anonymous 3:29
    Feb. 17, 2009 4:44 p.m.

    MY! How Clever!

    Belittle and label derogatorily anyone who doesn't agree with you.

    Probably in an attempt to shut down opposing voices.

    My! That must have taken a great amount of courage.

    But what else can you do when you have no leg to stand on, nothing of substance to argue.

  • Anonymous
    Feb. 17, 2009 4:39 p.m.

    The leadership of the USA is on the most part being run by morons with money.

  • Re: Anonymous | 3:29
    Feb. 17, 2009 4:39 p.m.

    I love how so many people coming out in support of the Gov. think they're smarter and better than everybody else. It really warms the heart, doesn't it?

  • re: 3:29
    Feb. 17, 2009 4:33 p.m.

    Oh, who cares about spelling mistakes when a person is ticked off! Don't worry about it BUD! I recognize all my mistakes and don't really care. It doesn't effect my day as it seems to be doing yours. The biggest mistake here is what Mr. Huntsman is doing. You need to work on your grammar. Have a wonderful day at school.

  • Anonymous
    Feb. 17, 2009 3:29 p.m.

    I love how so many people coming out against the Gov. can't even spell. Guess intelligence goes right along with family values.

  • Arnoldminime
    Feb. 17, 2009 3:29 p.m.

    Huntsman is an Arnold wannabe. In an age when we are running headlong into socialism Huntsman seems to want to be part of that gang that can't get us there fast enough. There is a golden opportunity at this moment in time for someone with some courage and leadership to turn the state away from socialism and back to the constitution and free market capitalism. Those are the things that have made this the most prosperous nation in history. Our decline is a direct result of big government interference and Huntsman is leading the big govenrnment charge. Obama is more of the same. We need change we can believe in and change that will really work. Consult the Founding Fathers.

  • I knew Governor Huntsman
    Feb. 17, 2009 3:14 p.m.

    was a moderate on most issues, but there was not alternative but to vote for him as Utah governor. For anyone thinking he could be a viable candidate for U.S. president, you must be drinking coolaide. That's like saying Sarah Palin was or is an electable candidate. However it didn't matter who the republican candidates were in 2008 or in 2012. This country is tilting to the left, and most people in the populous states are strictly liberal and want government handouts. Until we completely go down the tubes liberalism will continue to grow like the cancer it is to true government principles. We are seeing more and more of this antiamericanism and so-called diversity, which is nothing more than aiding and abetting strange behavior, excusing it, tolerating it, and letting the counter culture crackpots take over the rhetoric and calling right thinking americans biggots, homophobes, sexists, etc., etc. We have not control of our borders, which means we don't have a country, just semi organized chaos. Crime will soon overwhelm our judicial criminal justice system. We are already way behind in building sufficient prisons to house the growing crime problem.

  • anonymous
    Feb. 17, 2009 3:07 p.m.

    The Gov. may have a harder time getting reelected let alone getting consideration for Pres. in 2012

  • to anoymous 2:14
    Feb. 17, 2009 2:51 p.m.

    UMMM, it's whatever is on the agenda for today.

  • lost in DC
    Feb. 17, 2009 2:49 p.m.

    anonymous 1:29, any name calling be either side is hateful. calling a homosexual a pervert and a sinner is expressing an opinion that many find hurtful. calling someone a bigot is expressing an opinion that many consider hurtful.

    Unfortunately on too many campuses a liberal calling a conservative a bigot and hateful is not only tolerated, but encouraged and conservatives are muzzled.

    LACC is defending it's instructor who threatened to see a student expelled for making a non-judgemental reference to a biblical verse.

    At Columbia it was the military speaker shouted down by hateful liberals who would not tolerate anything he had to say, and the skool did nothing to censure the liberal hate speech. yes, I know that's not spelled correctly, but Columbia did not behave like an institution of higher learning; they are not worthy of being called a university or even a school.

    such examples in current academia are legion where liberals shout down conservatives with no fear of chastisement or repercussions (they're encouraged), yet they don't consider what they do hate speech or an infringement on others' rights. they are oblivious to the double standard as they muzzle the right.

  • Anonymous
    Feb. 17, 2009 2:14 p.m.

    Re 1:54
    This is what I question about Lds? You people absolutely make no sense with your confusion about what you believe in. AND WHATEVER IT IS YOU FEEL YOU BELIEVE IN TODAY-- MAY BE DIFFERENT TOMORROW??? I haven't quite figured any of it out.

  • Sarah
    Feb. 17, 2009 2:08 p.m.

    LOL, Cora, well said!

    I am tired of people calling me an "apostate" Mormon just because I agree with gay rights (including marriage). Otherwise, I live pretty much exactly as LDS church says I should. But some people see all of that as null and void because I won't "Follow the Prophet" on this one.

    So frustrating.

  • no reason for this !!
    Feb. 17, 2009 2:07 p.m.

    what is the reason the Gov feels so compelled to support gay unions in Utah? What is the pressing issue here? There are few gays in Utah and so what is the big deal? The Gov seems to have another agenda here and interestingly enough his pronouncement of gay activism support comes right after the election into his second and final term. Interesting timing. I can see liberal Salt Lake City voting for gay unions but if you take that poll in every other county you get an overwhelming NO NO and NO for gay unions in UTah. Most Utahan's are smart enough to know that gay unions are the first step toward gay marriage and the gay activists have a long range plan to force their twisted way into the state. Thanks Gov Huntsman - you just gave the radical gays some wiggle room!!!

  • benny
    Feb. 17, 2009 2:04 p.m.

    To Cora-
    and why should we standby and let the morals of our country deteriorate? Good Leaders in our Government, with high standards, are most important for the well being of our country. It says a lot about our future and the future of our children.

  • Re: Wrong
    Feb. 17, 2009 1:54 p.m.

    A person can not be a good lds person and be judgmental either. Who appointed you to be King of determining who is a good lds person? People I hate to break it to you but "everyone" in your ward is upset with the governor, I doubt it. If this is the case you should ask yourself why? BTW you can support civil union and have a temple recommend, it is a matter of personal conscience. Don't hate the governor for being an open minded person. Ya'll should try being a liberal-you'll be happier and less grumpy all the time.

  • Cora
    Feb. 17, 2009 1:37 p.m.

    That bad, bad, bad, governor. Besides everyone in our ward being mad, most of us can't understand why we can't stone people to death anymore. I would just love to burn somebody at the stake for being born different than me. I want to teach my children to hate, so they will be accepted like I am in church.
    Why do we continue to live in the 16th century?

  • Anonymous
    Feb. 17, 2009 1:29 p.m.

    lost in DC | 12:54 p.m. Feb. 17, 2009
    ""to free speech" in an earlier post said people calling other people bigots were not taking away their free speech just by calling them names"


    How is is any different than people calling homosexuals "sinners or perverts?"

    It still does not stop anyone from speaking their minds.

    On those campus's, both sides of this "free speech" would be considered unacceptable.

  • lost in DC
    Feb. 17, 2009 12:54 p.m.

    "to free speech" in an earlier post said people calling other people bigots were not taking away their free speech just by calling them names and asked if "free speech for me" was aware of the difference. I guess "free speech" is unaware of the speech codes in place in colleges (LACC as an example) where any speech that could be considered abusive is banned. there are those who consider the words "Jesus loves you" as abusive, so religious words are banned.

    Unfortunately we are reaching the point where speech is being banned if it is not in the mainstream of political correctness.

  • Shawna
    Feb. 17, 2009 12:41 p.m.

    May I say that I am so disappointed with the tone and response that has been displayed here. I do not feel anything coming from these posters but distain and self-righteousness towards gay people. What have we turned into? Where is our love for our fellow Americans?

    Aren't we all sinners? Don't we all fall short of being perfect? Should we all have our rights pro-rated on how close to perfect we are?

  • my church
    Feb. 17, 2009 12:36 p.m.

    Last time I checked, which was during the whole Prop 8 debacle, the LDS church specifically said it was not against civil unions. Neither is the governor, apparently.

    Yet a lot of LDS people here seem to be mad. Is it possible they didn't read the whole press release published by the church? They just heard the bit that makes it "ok" to hate gay people because God says so? I'm very confused. I really thought the LDS church suppored gay unions.

    And to people that "claim" they no longer like Huntsman, the writing on the wall that he felt this way to quite clear last November. And y'all still voted for him! A little R next to a name goes a long way.

  • wer
    Feb. 17, 2009 12:04 p.m.

    The governor's stance on civil unions is not a good thing.

    There is legislation being debated in the capitol that, if passed, will alter the state constitution and weaken marriage laws. Recent court decisions in other states have similarly made clear that providing benefits to same-sex couples, no matter how minor and even if accompanied by statement of intent meant to protect marriage, WILL be treated as evidence that the legislature does not object to redefining marriage.

    In each of the State high court decisions mandating a redefinition of marriage (in Massachusetts, California and Connecticut), the majority opinions have pointed to the extension of benefits to same-sex couples in those States in support of its conclusion.

    The so-called "Utah Equality" group's real agenda has been highly visible since the Prop. 8 vote in CA. If they don't like the democratic process, they will threaten and intimidate until they destroy the thin shred of society we are hanging onto to.

  • Anonymous
    Feb. 17, 2009 12:02 p.m.

    Maybe he will be nice and change his mind? I sure hope so.

  • Why did he do this?
    Feb. 17, 2009 11:49 a.m.

    Everyone at our ward is upset with the Governor.

  • Sour grapes
    Feb. 17, 2009 11:37 a.m.

    Ya, this a true shock for the gov-to go this direction. Things aren't making a lot of sense????

  • re...Do the Right Thing
    Feb. 17, 2009 11:32 a.m.

    I am so glad to see someone else who actually knows what Energy Solutions does- which is a good thing! They help the environment and do a lot of good things with their money! I can't believe how scared people get over the words "radioactive" "nuclear" and "energy solutions". It's silly.

    I think people fail to realize that the Governor has his sights somewhere else...somewhere back east. He does not care at all about Utah, but only how things will look for him when he decides to run for president. I personally believe he is a liar who would abandon the people he currently represents in a heart beat if it meant more money and prestige for him.

  • Interested Texan
    Feb. 17, 2009 11:30 a.m.

    I grew-up in Utah and I have family there but I have not followed Utah politics very closely for a number of years. In reading the comments in the article it is surprising to me how those who disagree with the Governor and the gays/liberals are labeled uneducated and bigot and that they just go with the crowd. Has it ever occurred to you that very thoughtful, educated and accepting people may disagree with you? Liberals are the people in my experience who demand conformity in thought. Check out what happens in Hollywood to those who do not espouse the orthodox liberal doctrines. I suggest you take a hard look in the mirror before calling those you disagree with names.

  • Anonymous
    Feb. 17, 2009 11:27 a.m.

    Does the governor have a personal reason for doing this?

  • Leonard
    Feb. 17, 2009 11:20 a.m.

    I too am disappointed that Gov Huntsman would think this way about civil unions

  • Cats
    Feb. 17, 2009 11:14 a.m.

    I am extremely disappointed in the Governor. I don't know if I will be able to vote for him again.

  • My Take
    Feb. 17, 2009 11:08 a.m.

    In the 1970's I was young and I saw my first gay "marriage" on t.v. I didn't realize it at the time that it wasn't a legal marriage. I just assumed gays could get married too and live their lives together.

    The definition of marriage so far as I was concerned didn't change in my mind. I still thought that eventually I would grow up and marry a girl, (I am a guy).

    I honestly don't understand why people have such a hard time allowing gays to marry, but then again neither do I understand why gays can't be happy with domestic partnerships that would give them all the legal rights, (whats in a name)?

    I've been told the reason is fairness, but I still don't get it. I think those on both sides need to get a life and stop quibbling about "how many angels can dance on the head of a pin".

  • re Post Toastee | 8:21 a.m.
    Feb. 17, 2009 11:03 a.m.

    "I think if you are going to comment and critique the Governor you better learn how to spell Governor!!"

    Did you know that Shakespear spelled his name various ways, he was focused on greater things than spelling.

    I could spend the next 2 months studying spelling, but it would be a waste of my time. Yes there are spell checkers, and perhaps because of people like you, who get tripped over "bad" spelling I ought to use one.

    That too would detract, as it would take time out of my day, I'd rather spend doing more valuable things.

  • poll numbers scewed
    Feb. 17, 2009 10:50 a.m.

    This article is very misleading. 47% support gay civil unions? I don't think so. Maybe if you are surveying only in Salt Lake County but certainly not in Utah County or any other county in Utah. Salt Lake County voted Rocky Anderson for Mayor for two terms so I don't think we look there for how ALL of Utah feels. Salt Lake County is very liberal and is mostly democrat so it is little wonder why they support gay activism. Gov Huntsman's choice to support gay activism is NOT in step with the majority of Utah's from St. George to Logan so let's put that to rest immediately. Gov Huntsman is LDS and the LDS church does NOT support or condone gay activism in any form. Read The Proclamation On The Family by the LDS first presidency. The Deseret News needs to qualify the poll numbers which showed a support of gay civil unions - which counties were polled and the number of people polled per county.

  • Outrageous...
    Feb. 17, 2009 10:41 a.m.

    An elected official who actually supports what Utahns support...that is an awful double standard. Shame on the governor. He should ask what the church thinks before deciding to do for Utahans. I agree with "wrong." Well reasoned.

  • Anonymous
    Feb. 17, 2009 10:29 a.m.

    I don't like him as much anymore

  • wrong...
    Feb. 17, 2009 10:27 a.m.

    Mr Huntsman is not a good LDS. No matter what he says.... a person cannot be a good LDS and have double standards.

  • Pathetic
    Feb. 17, 2009 10:19 a.m.

    This article and situation illustrates the difference between educated, self-thinking Americans, and drones of one party. Any politician with an R by their name should garner 70% popularity in Utah right off the bat, see drone comment earlier. But for a guy who 90% agreed with a week ago to slip because he has a mind of his own is pathetic. There are so many small-issue people in this country that will never migrate to the middle like the majority have. They might agree with a person 90% of the time, or agree just because he's a Republican, but step off the rope just once and you're headed for retirement in the state of Utah.

    It's time this country becomes about the 80% we can all agree upon, not the 20% that too many want to stand by to the death.

  • JMT
    Feb. 17, 2009 10:11 a.m.

    Dan Jones is very inaccurate. He is been off by as much as 20+ points in calling elections. Dan is far more propaganda than predictor, even as pollsters like to say, "reflect the mood of the people." All one has to do is go through the archives of the Deseret News over the past 15 years and watch election after election where Dan Jones is as close to the results as I am to the moon.

    Sadly, this one is likely another example. In any case, George Orwell shows us what polls are really for.

  • Hallo Guvna!
    Feb. 17, 2009 10:11 a.m.

    Too bad he had to share his true feelings. I think people prefer him when they assume he agrees with them.

    Plus, hilarious to see Republicans make fun of him for standing for something while going against most Utahns' view, while they also make fun of Obama for following political winds and polls. Which is it you really want? Oh wait, you just want people to agree with you. Very philosophically mature. Jolly good show.

  • Good for him
    Feb. 17, 2009 10:10 a.m.

    He got this one right. Family Values guy is simply wrong.

    Back to our regularly scheduled program.

  • No Vote
    Feb. 17, 2009 10:09 a.m.

    I WILL NEVER VOTE FOR HUNTSMAN AGAIN! HE HAS LOST THE VOTE FROM ALL OUR FAMILY AND ALL OUR FRIENDS.

  • Anonymous
    Feb. 17, 2009 9:59 a.m.

    I know, and talk with a lot of people, and I have yet to find anyone who supports civil unions, or gay marriage, or any of the baloney that goes with it. None are convinced this is a "civil rights" issue. So do I distrust the results of this poll? absolutely I do, the results are bogus. To pretend, in this state, with the predominant religion, and the church's stand on homosexuality; to pretend that nearly half the state supports this? I'm not that gullible.

  • Anonymous
    Feb. 17, 2009 9:55 a.m.

    Count me as one who no longer respects or supports Governor Huntsman. I thought he was a conservative, but he runs willy nilly towards global warming nonsense, then jumps ship into the gay marriage baloney. Civil unions is not about "unions", it is not about "caring", it is not about "justice" or "equality."

    Gays are fundamentally dishonest and should not be trusted. They are, indeed, you can go to the bank on this, determined to redefine the family, and civil unions will lead to gay marriage. I cannot believe this Republican governor has fallen for this huge deceit.

  • the real poll
    Feb. 17, 2009 9:38 a.m.

    I thought the headline was interesting given the most interesting (and encouraging) statistic in the poll, 47% in favor of civil unions, 42% against.
    1-I'll bet that would have been 40-60 before the Church's statement, and I'll bet a lot of those 42% are feeling a bit conflicted at the moment.
    2-Like the voucher issue, this shows that the Emperor-for-life of Utah (Gayle Ruzicka) doesn't speak for the majority of Utahns. If only the legislature could stand up to her.
    3-Forget national politics. It's time Huntsman and Matheson started a moderate party in Utah, without the local stigma of the word "Democrat" (especially as they move left nationally now that they have absolute power) and the extremism of the Republicans.

  • typical utah
    Feb. 17, 2009 9:31 a.m.

    how embarrassing that people actually support bigotry blatantly and in the public without any embarrassment. maybe if you were more educated you would realize how ridiculous you are. thats all.

  • To Free Speech...
    Feb. 17, 2009 9:28 a.m.

    Free Speech for Me . . . | 8:46 a.m. Feb. 17, 2009
    ". . . But not for Thee . . . seems to be the mantra of the gay community. Why is it that when religious people stand up for what they believe in, the gay community automatically screams as loud as they can and clamors "bigots"! Last I checked, the Constitution still protects the right to speak one's opinion . . . even if that opinion is in favor of protecting traditional marriage."


    No one is stopping you from speaking! They may call you names, but that does not infringe upon your right to speak. I think you can understand the difference.

  • Finally!!!
    Feb. 17, 2009 9:28 a.m.

    A politician like Huntsman is popular until he stands for something and isn't still in the making promises mode. Though I disagree with him on this "gay union" issue at least he's finally taken a stand on something during his administration.

  • Dan Jones Employee
    Feb. 17, 2009 9:27 a.m.

    Anonymous,
    As you could tell I work at Dan Jones and Associates. And to answer your concern, the poll was conducted in each and every county. The sample is proportional to the population in each county. We did every county from Salt Lake to Piute to Washington.

  • utah rose
    Feb. 17, 2009 9:24 a.m.

    Exactly Free speech for me! If ordinary citizens protest the immigration bill the legislature is pushing down our throats, we'd be called racist.

    If we protest the civil unions that Gov. Huntsman approves of, we will be called bigots.

    What it boils down to, is free speech for some but not for everybody if they don't approve of opinions or laws that goes against the grain of morality.

    Of course, that's not what these people want to hear. They will want to say that everyone who disagrees with them are right wing zealots.

    Some of us prefer to obey the Ten Commandments, no matter what religion we are.

    Again, as for the civil unions, get an attorney to write up what you need and he will do it without the interference of our state government.

    As far as I know, hospitals are compassionate toward the sick and dying, and don't believe you would need much to be able to be at their side whether you're immediate family or not.

  • Free Speech for Me . . .
    Feb. 17, 2009 8:46 a.m.

    . . . But not for Thee . . . seems to be the mantra of the gay community. Why is it that when religious people stand up for what they believe in, the gay community automatically screams as loud as they can and clamors "bigots"! Last I checked, the Constitution still protects the right to speak one's opinion . . . even if that opinion is in favor of protecting traditional marriage.

    Oh wait, I'd better go back to lying low so I don't look too mean-spirited.

  • Governor losing popularity.
    Feb. 17, 2009 8:43 a.m.

    There's another story that states that the Governor is losing popularity. Which is it? Let's just say that people are starting to see the true Governor and leave it at that...

  • Anonymous
    Feb. 17, 2009 8:37 a.m.

    Let's see.....Poll?...hmmmm....I wonder where that poll was taken? The Avenues maybe? Downtown SLC? But then again, we really are not a two party system anymore. Oh, we differ in some ways like abortion....but pretty soon there won't be a big gap there either.

  • Versus Romney
    Feb. 17, 2009 8:36 a.m.

    I believe Mitt Romney was also a compassionate, reasonable moderate - until he thought he had to run to the right in order to be a viable national candidate. Huntsman appears to have learned that this nation is truly a moderate, reasonable majority. Don't let pressure from the dead far right make you reconsider. This stance is also more in line with the LDS Church than the far right.

  • Duh.
    Feb. 17, 2009 8:30 a.m.

    It's not just because of his gay stance... it's a simple fact that the longer you're around, the more people really get to know you.

  • Utah rose
    Feb. 17, 2009 8:27 a.m.

    From pushing the REAL stadium down our throats to his approval of civil unions which have proved in other states like California a stepping stone to same-sex marriage, he is NOT my choice of governor and never has been.

    He is not listening to the majority of citizens who elected him, and seems to want to go his own way. Ok for that, everyone is entitled to his opinion and vote, but mine will go to a candidate who listens to the voice of the people, and by the way, traditionals are not necessarily Mormon but believe in the sanctity of marriage. I just hope the legislators don't try to push the civil unions through just because Huntsman believes in it.

  • Anonymous
    Feb. 17, 2009 8:23 a.m.

    Now I have read everything in these comments: The commentator at 6:51 am believes that radioactive waste is "a blessing from on high?"

    Energy Solutions has now gained the status of a deity?

    Wow, Utah is one strange place. Polygamy sounds normal next ot this one.

  • Post Toastee
    Feb. 17, 2009 8:21 a.m.

    Several Commentors:

    I think if you are going to comment and critique the Governor you better learn how to spell Governor!!

  • Utah Citizen
    Feb. 17, 2009 8:16 a.m.

    Huntsman was NEVER qualified to be governor. We should at least have a college graduate with some real world experience.

  • Family Values
    Feb. 17, 2009 8:14 a.m.

    I am not voting for Huntsman next election. Call me whatever you want, I call myself an American.

  • To J. Hillen
    Feb. 17, 2009 8:08 a.m.

    J.Hillen | 1:49 a.m. Feb. 17, 2009
    Govenor,
    "You are being used and manipulated by the commonground people as they twist the issues to meet their agendas. They have no real compassion for you."


    Thank goodness Gov. Huntsman has compassion for us, though.

  • Anonymous
    Feb. 17, 2009 7:56 a.m.

    John: Have you ever been to Mississippi?,Louisiana?,South Carolina?Alabama?Arkansas?

  • Anonymous
    Feb. 17, 2009 7:51 a.m.

    Govenor Huntsman has done a great job. I like the act he will take an unpopular stance. Plus I think he is right.

  • Jeff
    Feb. 17, 2009 7:50 a.m.

    I was unaware what a political hot-potato civil unions still are in Utah. An inoccuous statement like the one made by Huntsman brings the closeted bigots, who have learned to lie low so they don't look too mean-spirited, out in full force. It's a brave politician indeed who makes any mention of the subject at all.

  • Why?
    Feb. 17, 2009 7:35 a.m.

    It is OK to have an article that tells of how we think the governor is doing, but WHY must we project him as a possible candidate for president in 2012? Let's live in the now, please. There's enough to do without anticipating something 3 years hence. Enough future political speculation. I'm still reeling from the overexposure of politics from this last election.

  • Justice
    Feb. 17, 2009 7:33 a.m.

    Governor,
    Thank you from a straight citizen for NOT being used and manipulated by the ultra conservative bigots who falsely assume they are righteous. Note: The LDS church is now curiously silent by not condemning Huntsman. Enlightenment is arriving in Zion... slowly.

    Remember: Old film clips of KKK rallies show protestant ministers praying and blessing those gathered and their activities. Misplaced religious fervor tainted judgment then and it taints it now. George Wallace blocking blacks from educational institutions became the embarrassing legacy of Alabama, and Gayle Ruzicka will be the sour legacy of shame for Utah

  • Stew Padomos
    Feb. 17, 2009 7:31 a.m.

    Given Gov Hunstman's recent stance on civil unions, I am now officially in love with him. Thank you from the bottom of my proud gay heart.

  • John
    Feb. 17, 2009 7:18 a.m.

    Utah voters are the least sophisticated in the country. This is the land where white teeth and a nice smile and lots of money will sway 80+ percent of the vote...Sad!

  • Albemar
    Feb. 17, 2009 7:09 a.m.

    How sad that the citizenry lowers its approval of its governor for standing up for every citizen. He simply said every citizen should have the same rights. That every Utah adult should be able to get into the hospital to see their spouse, not loose their job, have fair housing access, the ability to get insurance for their family under one policy, to give your inheritance to your loved one without paying a fortune to lawyers.

    Strange how all those who want to deny another human being these basic protections for their family, use the false claims of protecting their own families and their faith, as the rational for denying another human being the same benefits that their family enjoys.

    What does it say about a people who don't have the heart to share something they claim is so wonderful. I guess their is a limit to how many people can be treated equally in Utah, so we can't spare any more civil rights to our citizens, for we might run out? How sad.

  • Anonymous
    Feb. 17, 2009 6:55 a.m.

    The Gov. is showing he is not an right wing nut. He makes his own decisions and is more open minded than the typical Utah Republican. The GOP Members of Congress should look at some of the nation's Governors for a model to appeal and be successful, not continue their obstuction and lack of ideas. But then, maybe they should stay like they are. The GOP had their chance and blew it. Keep up your independence, Governor.

  • Govenor, do the right thing
    Feb. 17, 2009 6:51 a.m.

    I voted for Gov. Huntsman, but if he is against the deal offered by Energy Solutions to give Utah 100 million per year in return for allowing foreign waste, I will regret my vote.

    Let me say, this offers no increased risk to Utah, foreign waste is no different than waste produced in the United States. The hole will be filled eventually anyway, the only question is, do we want the 100 million per year or not?

    It seems in a time that we are talking about raising the food tax, or furlowing teachers, or laying off highway patrol, this is a blessing from on high,

    I hope the Govenor has more sense than to reject this 100 million per year.

  • Anonymous
    Feb. 17, 2009 3:34 a.m.

    I think governor Huntsman would have a hard time up against the popular Barack Obama. I do feel he is a much more viable candidate than Romney to go against the Democrats however.

  • J.Hillen
    Feb. 17, 2009 1:49 a.m.

    Govenor,
    You are being used and manipulated by the commonground people as they twist the issues to meet their agendas. They have no real compassion for you.