Congress passes $787 billion stimulus

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  • Iraq
    Feb. 19, 2009 1:39 a.m.

    Iraq is PART of the war on terror and yes, Viginia, we are fighting Al Qaida there! You know, the guys who strap bombs on and blow up innocent people, fly airplanes into buildings and murder innocent people? Yeah, those guys!

  • My 2
    Feb. 18, 2009 11:57 p.m.

    Re: Re: 8

    You talk about Al-Qaida and Iraq as thought Al-Qaida is the reason that we are in Iraq. That doesn't make any sense at all.

    We became involved in Afghanistan because of Al-Qaida's attacks against our nation (9/11). Very few will argue that this was a bad move that the United States made here. Such outrageous acts of terrorism cannot be tolerated.

    Our war against Iraq, however, was sparked by faulty intelligence reports. We entered the war against Iraq as a preemptive strike, thinking that Hussein had Weapons of Mass Destruction at his disposal. No WoMD have been found though. The capture (and subsequent death) of Saddam Hussein is an undeniably outstanding consequence of our invasion, but this madman's reign of terror has come to an end at the price (in both human casualties and amount of money spent) that many find to be intolerable.

  • Re: 8
    Feb. 17, 2009 8:40 p.m.

    I realize I am wasting my time trying to educate you about the war in Iraq, but I will try. For over a decade, Al Qaida had attacked the U.S. and other countries murdering innocent people and President Bush was the first world leader to do anything about it! What would you do to stop them? Iraq had to happen! Iraq became the first attempt to defeat murders and showed the world how to do it! Should we continue to let them fly airplanes into buildings and blow up innocent people? Iraq, as painful as it is for you, is a success! Part of a DEFENSIVE war! But you go right ahead and live in your Obama dream world! He will save you!

  • 8 years of a deeper hole
    Feb. 17, 2009 8:17 p.m.

    At least Obama is willing to make a move besides shooting at another country that has nothing to do with our current mess. My Mama always said to clean up the mess in my own yard before I started yelling about the neighbors. Bring the kids home, let the nation come back to health, then fix the rest of the planet.

  • Bubble Head
    Feb. 17, 2009 1:48 p.m.

    Bubble: I suppose you meant something by your 12:25 comment but I cannot make any sense of it.

  • The conservative bubble
    Feb. 17, 2009 12:25 p.m.

    The bursting of the conservative bubble has caused a political depression.

  • george
    Feb. 17, 2009 11:05 a.m.

    Why are we so worried about this? Didn't we vote these characters in? If so many people are concerned, there are enough state laws out there that what could be done is called impeachment against not only local officials, but also members of congress.

    But, in all seriousness, where has all this heading towards?

    The Dutch (Netherlands) system of socialism seems to be where the U.S. is headed: unlimited abortion, gay-marriage, euthenasia, prostitution, pornography, unlimited drug usage.

    Can you think of any no-no's?

    We get what we deserve.

  • Nancy, go a whey. Please.
    Feb. 16, 2009 7:13 p.m.

    Why don't we take a couple hundred thousand stimulus bucks and engrave the names of all Senators and Congressmen who voted for this bloated, moldy, mildewed, Great Society relic into a huge block of government surplus cheese and put it on the steps of Capitol Hill for all to see and smell.

    My guess, and my hope is by this time 2011 half of those rats will be back home looking for work while grumbling, "Who moved my cheese?"

  • NSH (No Solution Here)
    Feb. 14, 2009 8:34 p.m.

    According to Jim I will start seeing increases in my wage on weekly basis. I'm all for it, but someone needs to tell Jim that the election is over. Does anyone believe him?

    A dollar in Goverments hand is cycled through our economy about 3-5 times a year. A dollar in the hands of the taxpayers hands cycles about 5-8 times a year. Thats because Uncle Sam is not allowed to invest money or spend it until congress alocates it. Very basic concept. Who do you want to have money in order to get the economy going..... Message to Democrats and Republicans...Cut taxes, spending and Goverment Debt.

    Oh, just a side note Obama just anounced that he now needs to work on the deficit. I don't hear anyone in our Goverment proposing any solutions that will work Dems or Repubs.

  • confused
    Feb. 14, 2009 7:45 p.m.

    I wonder how long it took to write the bill. Somebody obviously found plenty of time to write it. Who wrote it?

    So...all that time to make all of those plans and to write all of those pages, but not enough time to read it.

    I am in shock. This cannot be mass insanity. It must have been a plan in the works for a long, long time.

  • Steve H.
    Feb. 14, 2009 7:16 p.m.

    Jim Matheson will never get my vote again. I don't care who runs against him, they get my vote. He needs to pay the price for his stupidity and be voted out of office.

  • Deja Moo....
    Feb. 14, 2009 6:57 p.m.

    Same old Bull...

  • Anonymous
    Feb. 14, 2009 6:44 p.m.

    I hope these deomcrats burn in hell, because they dont have that kind of money to spend, and now people are now going to be lazy, and assume everything is going to be alright, well I'm looking forward to see this situation get worse, so that people can see that socialism and communism will never work, and for once people will no longer be stupid, at least for that moment... Stupid, pathetic, worthless democrats

  • What?
    Feb. 14, 2009 6:31 p.m.

    I thought they are not allowed to smile and laugh......LOL!!

  • Something smells ...
    Feb. 14, 2009 5:50 p.m.

    ARR act (Ammericans in a rotten rathole) stincks.
    I smell B.O. (Barrack O) -- he hugged the skunk.

  • RE: Aw YEEEEAAAH!
    Feb. 14, 2009 3:48 p.m.

    It still ISN'T a free lunch.

    You worked for that money,

    it just before the government was taking it away and not giving it back.

    By the way ever money you got back before, via tax refund, was your money, and governemnt held it for up to year, possibly longer, and is now giving it back without any accrued interest.

    Does that sound like a fair deal?

    even a bank will give you 2% or %3 precent!


    When comes to government there is NEVER a free lunch,

    you always pay for it through the nose.

  • No
    Feb. 14, 2009 3:32 p.m.

    WE DID NOT VOTE THESE IDIOTS INTO OFFICE. Do your homework before you make such moronic comments. Who is representing UT? HOW DID UT VOTE? Congress is running our country into the ground.

  • Hmmm
    Feb. 14, 2009 2:41 p.m.

    Since Queen nancy is now in Europe, can we get legislation passed to have them keep her there? Maybe we can send King Harry and then the All Seeing, All Omnipotent Liar Obama there too...

    Boy are we in a world of hurt!!!!

  • Re: Liberals
    Feb. 14, 2009 2:37 p.m.

    You liberals are all so childish. Instead of defending the bill and how it will actually help stimulate the economy instead of being the welfare bill that it is, just resort to the same "blame Bush" tactics.
    Do you know what? I bet you that 90% of the conservatives posting here agree the Bush wasn't as fiscal conservative as they wanted. They are outraged by his spending measures just as much as they are by the Democrats of today.
    The Republican leadership isn't great by any means, but its better than those back scratching Democrats and their "stimulus packages" for Planned Parenthood and ACORN. Would a liberal please tell me how any money going to those groups will stimulate the economy?

  • David S Decker
    Feb. 14, 2009 2:00 p.m.

    Bye Mr. Decker. See ya later, alligator.

  • fred
    Feb. 14, 2009 2:00 p.m.

    I can't believe the stupidity of "walk th Talk" I think we should all take what money we can and save for our gradchildren so they can try to pay back the burden this foolishness has placed on them.

  • poor capitalist pigs
    Feb. 14, 2009 1:46 p.m.

    Reaganites, bigamites unite. The world is coming to an end. The poor shall inherit the earth. Doom and gloom! Poor Reaganite bigamites.

  • David S Decker
    Feb. 14, 2009 1:23 p.m.

    Too bad that all the DesNews can do is print the Demo Welfare party line. Where is the real headline for the story that not congressman read the bill; or had time to read the bill or that Obama blew another campaign promise by not letting the voters have 48 hrs minimum to read and comment before any bill is voted on in congres; or that our Demo Utan is merely "part of the herd" leading us to a welfare state. I hope that his constituates wake up to that fact before they elect him again to represent the working people of Utah. PS-quitting the DesNews is getting more tempting every day as the AP line gets featured without any corrections to offset the garbage.

  • Just a reminder
    Feb. 14, 2009 12:49 p.m.

    I'd like to remind all of the Democrats out there who are blaming George Bush for the current financial crisis, that the Democrats controlled the House (the Constitutionally appointed source of all spending bills) for the last years of the Bush presidency, and that Barney Frank (D) and Chris Dodd(D) were the people placed in charge of the Fannie May/ Freddie Mac fiasco which was the impetus for the current housing/financial mess we're in- all the while receiving kick-backs from both lending institutions. Come on, folks- its ALL of Congress! It's greed and corruption- but the scariest part of all is that it isn't just greed and corruption in politics, it's greed and corruption run rampant through all parts of our American society. No government stimulus package is going to fix this, it's only going to make us MORE dependent on the hand that feeds us whatever we want. WE, THE PEOPLE have to fix this- from within ourselves. Rome was ruined because the people of Rome elected officials who would give them anything they wanted, and then, after Rome went bankrupt, tyranny rose from the ashes. Think about it.

  • GOP Politics as Usual
    Feb. 14, 2009 12:45 p.m.

    Good to see for Republicans it is still politics as usual rather than actually doing something that hopefully will help the country. For their gang, it is all about opposing the other gang, increasing tax cuts / refunds for the rich, opposing tax cuts for the middle and lower classes, and opposing spending on projects that will put Americans to work. They oppose spending on infrastructure improvements where Americans will WORK to earn a living- money they will actually spend on the bare necessities. And they support tax cuts for the rich- money they will NOT work for and they will not spend.

    The Republican gang supports spending trillions on starting wars and killing hundreds of thousands of people. But they oppose spending hundreds of thousands to try to fix the economy. That is un-American and unpatriotic. What do Republicans have against Americans? Well, at least the Americans who are not in the top 2% of wealth.

  • hillen
    Feb. 14, 2009 12:41 p.m.

    Caption for the photos.

    "Suckers! Ha ha ha. The American public fell for it, again. Ha ha ha. Boy are they ever so dumb. Ha ha ha."

  • The NEW LOTTERY
    Feb. 14, 2009 11:53 a.m.

    Hey, I'm going to start a new ACORN chapter in Utah so I can get a hold of some of that $4 billion of taxpayer money that was provided for such groups in this porker of a bill. Then I can use your money to "shake-down" corporations and banks under threats of trumped up civili rights lawsuits or sit-ins to extort more money. What a deal! This takes what LBJ did in Texas to win his first Senate race by stuffing ballot boxes to new highs (or lows). Im' disgusted beyond words. SHAME on anyone who voted for this bloated pig of a bill! Republicans had a common-sense alternative that was mostly tax breaks to spur investment (and therefore, jobs)... instead of welfare and direct payments to put people on the dole. I hope America wakes up before this whole ship sinks. This is what you all get and deserve for voting in an entire Democratic government; House, Senate, and President.

  • jj
    Feb. 14, 2009 11:33 a.m.

    Is it too early to start impeachment proceedings???

  • Knowwhat
    Feb. 14, 2009 11:16 a.m.

    I don't know who Obama is being compared to on MSM but I do know that he sounds like a braying ass. He told us that the CEO of Caterpillar, told him that this stimulus package will allow him to hire back alot of the employees that were layed off. The CEO of Caterpillar was on ABC news and said this is not the case. Because the money in the stimulus package would not go into jobs the would need the kind of equipment that Caterpillar builds. Probably if you thought about it the money that has been spent on the war in the middle east you would find that more jobs were created from it that ever will be from the Stuntulus Package.

  • 4thinkingamericans
    Feb. 14, 2009 10:50 a.m.

    Republicans were not very fiscally conservative under Bush- -answer true. War in Afghanistan was because we wanted to spend money? Answer...No! All
    Americans felt it was the right thing to protect ourselves and defeat the Taliban led government that
    supported terrorists. Iraq...was a well intentioned mistake that will result in a Democracy and a people
    that may embrace it fully when we leave. America's problems today are not Bush's fault. It is the fault of abandoning banking policies from the Depression era when Bill Clinton and friends changed the laws in the early 90's so that people who could not previously afford a home might do so under the new regulations. As it turns out they could not afford to make their payments afterall! the Banks suffer from massive mortgage loan defaults. They had to make those risky loans under the new law signed by Bill C. As for the New new deal of B.O not FDR, the massive burdens and debt imposed by the massive spending bill will far outweigh the few real benefits intended. Ask not what your country can do for you but ask what you can do for it.JFK

  • Anybody?
    Feb. 14, 2009 10:21 a.m.

    I worked 12 hours yesterday and got home late last night. Can anybody tell who Obama is being compared to today?
    Is the MSM still comparing Obama to Lincoln and Reagan, or did the MSM go back to FDR and Kennedy?


    Save a seal, club a liberal.

  • RE: Walk the Talk
    Feb. 14, 2009 9:16 a.m.

    Can we make this deal? I will not take one cent of stimulus money if me and my kids don't have to pay for the increased taxes that will come of this nonsense. Seems fair doesn't it? So I will send you my portion of the money and you send me money when my taxes go up. By the way, at least spell hypocrisy correctly.

  • Utah Resident
    Feb. 14, 2009 9:10 a.m.

    LARGEST SPENDING BILL IN U.S. HISTORY... AND NOT A SINGLE SENATOR OR CONGRESSMAN READ IT!

    WELCOME TO THE NEW "TRANSPARENCY".

  • Zay hartigan
    Feb. 14, 2009 9:04 a.m.

    Let Haliburton fix the fence, they'll underbid all three prior bids, and end up costing more than the highest one.
    And as a bonus, some of our soldiers will be electrocuted while showering.

  • Fixing Bush Mess
    Feb. 14, 2009 8:56 a.m.

    As GW Bush once said, "It's amazing I won. I was running against peace and prosperity." Now Obama has inherited the fulfillment of George's promise and must reverse it. Go Barack!

  • Thanks Jim
    Feb. 14, 2009 8:41 a.m.

    Thank heaven for Jim Matheson. Otherwise all Utah voices would be raised to shoot down the only hope we have.

  • Phil
    Feb. 14, 2009 8:39 a.m.

    A question for Republicans. Why is it OK to spend nearly $900 billion to shoot at camels in the Middle East but it's not OK to spend less than that to rebuild schools and invest in new energy development in our own country? My old econ professor at the U showed us how war spending is fundamentally wasteful and has the opposite effect of investment in education, which actually builds our future.

  • Bishop Can't Read
    Feb. 14, 2009 8:33 a.m.

    So Rob Bishop hasn't had time to read a bill that came up 3 weeks ago and finally reached a conference vote only yesterday? The guy must be a slow reader. Wasn't he a schoolteacher or something?

  • Oh Please
    Feb. 14, 2009 8:31 a.m.

    As I've always said, Republicans are just fine with a trillion borrowed dollars to destroy--for war, destruction, and death. But when it comes to actually creating jobs that create something--schools, care for the sick and the old, technology infrastructure, and alternative energy--they scream like stuck pigs. Are these people for real? Who raised them? Here's the bottom line: Republicans = invest in death. Democrats = invest in life.

  • Albemar
    Feb. 14, 2009 8:27 a.m.

    Blah, Blah, Blah... Wow the anger!

    Nothing but tired old arguments from every Republican and conservative. These are the very people who have gotten us into the very situation we are in today. The last 30 years of these failed policies have created this mess, it's time for change!

    1-Tax cuts cure everything including cancer and don't add to the national debt.
    2-Capitalism is the answer to every issue and we can always trust business to do what is right.

    IMPRESSIVE PARTS - STIMULUS PLAN
    90 Bilion for Green Technology & Industries
    Transparency - Every American can look online and track/comment about expenditures
    Whistle Blower Protections - Anyone who reports abuse with these tax dollars is protected against retaliation.

    NOT THAT IS CHANGE!

    Why don't you Republicans talk about living within our means and that includes paying our way, not free loading off the government and asking future generations to pay for your selfishness.

    Maybe Obama will do like Reagan, give a tax break his first year and then raise taxes even more, for each additional year until we can balance the budget. Let's talk about how Reagan raised taxes more than anyone!

  • Zay Harrison
    Feb. 14, 2009 7:56 a.m.

    You must be kidding. After 8 years of the Bush administration, with an unstoppable Republican majority and machine of lock step voting for at least four of those years, look at the mess we're in. When we were attacked on 9-11, did the president say " start saving, spend more wisely ". No.
    He said" go shopping " The government encouraged the overextended credit lifestyle in it's behavior ( cutting taxes while running enourmous expenses on Iraq ) and it's policies ( can you say " ownership society rediculous mortgage policies"?)

    I have news for you folks, the war in Iraq has already saddled us with great debt, it costs 4,000 per person ( including my two year old daughter ) in our country.

    You are probably right, Republicans. Cut taxes. Hey, let's just do away with them entirely. People can donate money for roads, schools, police etc.

  • America's future
    Feb. 14, 2009 7:53 a.m.

    They'll offer bills and notes at auction to pay for this, however it's unlikely with so much on the auction block that foreign nations will invest ("private capital" partnerships Geithner is betting on). The only option left is to "monetize" the debt, meaning to crank up the printing presses and print the money needed to pay for the massive debt/spending package. The increase in the money supply devalues the currency, triggers inflation, then the cure becomes dicey. Enter Paul Volcker. He had to cure inflation under Jimmy Carter and Ronald Reagan. He decided to contract the money supply and let interest rates drift unregulated into the ozone until they hit over 20% (Fed funds rate, prime was higher, and street rates were around 26-28%). Welcome to the future America.

  • economy
    Feb. 14, 2009 7:51 a.m.

    I like remembering that President Bush said he went in on a recession and came out on a recession.

  • Anonymous
    Feb. 14, 2009 7:42 a.m.

    Pelosi, Reed and everyone who voted for this bill need a one-way ticket out of this country. That's the only responsible way this package should be spent.

  • BigMoney
    Feb. 14, 2009 7:25 a.m.

    Once again the liberal masters prove their quality. Pulling our county from the grips of a recession cannot happen by spending money on projects that are forward-thinking, while at the same time create hundreds of thousands of jobs. The conservatives have it right. Pres. Bush pushed through $700 billion (hmmmm, same amount - isn't that a legacy)targeted on big business and corporate CEOs. That makes more sense. I would much rather put our nation into debt, so these poor folks can afford to gas up their private jets. Otherwise, how can they get to their winter retreats in Aspen? What about those $300,000 bonuses? Come on Utah, have a heart - these are the people who are really hurting. Besides, the conservative version of $700 billion has worked wonders to turn around our economy.

  • Tom
    Feb. 14, 2009 7:15 a.m.

    I believe that somewhere it says that the U.S. will never be defeated from whithout. Only from within.
    I see the election of Obama as the first step to destruction from within. The second step is the passage of this "Stimulus Pork Package" Please note that the Jobless rate has been especially bad the past three months. Three months hum when was the election final.

  • Crap
    Feb. 14, 2009 6:16 a.m.

    Crapity crap crap.

  • Ross
    Feb. 14, 2009 5:54 a.m.

    Watch the plundering of America lead to full blown socialism and widespread poverty. This is blindness and stupidity accelerated like trying to put out a fire with gasoline. But then again the Lord likes to let the wicked destroy the wicked. Judgment day is coming.

  • laugh instead of crying
    Feb. 14, 2009 5:33 a.m.

    Three contractors are bidding to fix a broken fence at the White House; One from Chicago, one from Tennessee, and a third from Kentucky. They all go with a White House official to examine the fence

    The Tennessee contractor takes out a tape measure and does some measuring, then works some figures with a pencil. Well, he says, I figure the job will run about $900.00: $400 for materials, $400 for my crew and $100 profit for me.

    The Kentucky contractor also does some measuring and figuring, then says, I can do this job for $700.00: $300 for materials, $300 for my crew and $100 profit for me.

    The Chicago contractor doesnt measure or figure, but leans over the fence to the White House official and whispers, $4,700.00″

    The official, incredulous, whispers back,
    You didnt even measure like the other guys,
    How did you come up with such a high figure?

    The Chicago contractor whispers back,
    $2,000.00 for me,

    $2,000 for you,

    and we hire that guy over there from Kentucky to fix the fence for $700.

    Done! replies Nancy!

    Stooges in office

    nyuk, nyuk, nyuk.

  • Aaron
    Feb. 14, 2009 2:45 a.m.

    May God have mercy on our souls.

  • oldtimer
    Feb. 13, 2009 11:35 p.m.

    Did anyone note the irony? Worst piece of legislation was passed on Friday the Thirteenth.

  • Fiscal Conservatives MIA
    Feb. 13, 2009 11:30 p.m.

    According to the GAO (General Accountability Office)and the CBO, the Iraq War has cost $657 billion, so far. Afghanistan has cost $173 billion, so far. Estimated Iraq War and Afghanistan costs for the next ten years range from $440 to $865 billion. Too bad we didn't invest that kind of money in the U.S. Where have the fiscal conservatives been for the past 8 years?

  • Trend
    Feb. 13, 2009 10:28 p.m.

    All this economic disater and human suffering all because of Bush and the republicans, we will be paying for their politics for generations to come.

  • Jeff R
    Feb. 13, 2009 10:00 p.m.

    Ok, why would you rush through a $800 billion spending bill through congress without reading even 40% of it. One reason is that the dems' tried for 8 years to push their will and might but didnt have the majority. Now they have it and can slip in whatever they want. An 1100 page bill that people had aprox. 15 hours to read is not Constitutional!!! The dems and this president tricked the American people and gave them false hope for a bill that wont work. This bill will plumet the US Dollar, increase inflation by an alarming rate, and not even make a dent in the economy. What we needed was huge tax cuts on Small Businesses, more incentives to start a business and less tax on those who do a good job. The are punishing those who run great businesses by taxing them to death when they make to much. Taxing them puts a damper on their business and if its prolonged then you get all sorts of layoffs and others go with it. We need to get back to what works. And that is hard work, good incentives to go to work, and TAX CUTS!!

  • Please explain
    Feb. 13, 2009 9:53 p.m.

    How do you count a "saved" job?

  • GTO
    Feb. 13, 2009 9:25 p.m.

    Folks, there has NEVER been such a blatent, hypocritical,unconstitutional confiscation of wealth in the history of the world as we have just witnessed! This is a very, very sad day for freedom and democracy in America! The net effect of this so called "stimulus" package is we have just enslaved our grandchildren=forcing them to work for another person (us) without pay! Democrats have stolen from our children and grandchildren.

  • C Harris
    Feb. 13, 2009 9:20 p.m.

    Will someone who approves this so called stimulus package and who understands it, please explain how it will stimulate jobs long term and how it will be paid for?

  • Massive Spending
    Feb. 13, 2009 9:14 p.m.

    Its not a stimulus, its massive pork spending from the new "good old boy". If any of Utah's national good old boys vote for it, I will work hard to elect anyone else.

  • Re: just $800 billion
    Feb. 13, 2009 9:10 p.m.

    According to the Government General Accounting Office, we have spend a bit less than $1 billion in Iraq, not even close to the $1 trillion you claim. There is a good chance we will eventually get part or all of that money back from Iraq. The war in Iraq is chump change compared to this "stimulus package"= 12.8%. No comparison! I needed my tax cut, it stimulated the economy very well! According to the IRS, the top 10% of income earners contributed over 70% of revenue collected. The bottom 50% of tax payers contributed only about 4% of revenue. Don't tell us we don't need a tax cut to stimulate the economy!

  • It's just $800 billion
    Feb. 13, 2009 8:54 p.m.

    Bush put $2trillion in tax cuts and $1 trillion on Iraq. At least this will be used on something. Republicans had 8 years to test their cut taxes policies and look where it got us!

  • WALK THE TALK
    Feb. 13, 2009 8:17 p.m.

    ALL OF YOU NAYSAYERS need to WALK THE TALK.

    If ANY of you NAYSAYERS take one penny of the stimulus money, you have become the epitome, personification and definition of HYPOCRICY.

    Blast Obama if you will, that is your right, however don't mix your right to have a different opinion, with the HYPOCRICY of accepting one penny of the stimulus money.

    WALK THE TALK!

  • If it fails
    Feb. 13, 2009 7:48 p.m.

    It won't be BO's fault or San Fran Nancy Mussolini, Dirty Harry Reed or anyone in Congress. It will be Bush's fault. In fact I have a cold right now and it is his fault.

  • no pain no joke
    Feb. 13, 2009 7:05 p.m.

    This stimulated bill even has a cure for heart disease and cancer.

    If it passes the senate we can save trillions in health care costs.

  • Ridgeruner
    Feb. 13, 2009 5:56 p.m.

    I WANT a new car, a boat, an ATV and a new house but I don't have the money! But now, the Democrats have shown me I don't need money! So, I am going on a wild,irresonsible shopping and spending spree to "stimulate my economy"! Can I expect my grandchildren to "bail me out"? NO! Darn you people are greedy! You just don't get it do you? Sarcasm intended to demonstate the insanity of this "bailout package".

  • relieved
    Feb. 13, 2009 5:42 p.m.

    I am so releived to see the house pass the stimulus bill. Now if the senate will hurry up and do the same this country will be in good shape. I will be able to sleep now and not worry.

  • Can't they Break it Down?
    Feb. 13, 2009 5:12 p.m.

    Seriously, can't they break it down into a thousand separate bills where they focus on the parts that may actually help stimulate the economy first? That way they might be able to actually make good decisions that will benefit the American people and the economy rather than just promise to spend $10,000 from every American Family in a way less stimulating than we would spend ourselves.

  • CB
    Feb. 13, 2009 2:34 p.m.

    What most people can't see and won't get until it happens, when this mess fails, Obama will claim that he didn't have anything to do with it. It was authored by the House and Senate (Thank you Republicans for not joining in). They assured the President that this would
    work and he relied on them to do right by us taxpayers. He voting 'present', and he's running around like he is campaigning again. He's the 'western movie' facade of a booming town, nothing behind the saloon's swinging door but desert.

  • KM
    Feb. 13, 2009 2:26 p.m.

    Yipee! I was really getting woried about the economy and the country. Now that the socialistas are in charge, I can once again rest easy.

    Thanks, and happy valentines! (can we still say happy valentines? Its getting hard to decide what is and what isn't politically correct.)

  • Think about it Utah
    Feb. 13, 2009 1:56 p.m.

    Will this Bill help out China more to here?. While China's ultra-rich have been buying property in the U.S. for years, the buying tours are new, made attractive by still-rising Chinese income levels and American real estate prices that have been falling for two and a half years. More than 100 Chinese buyers have joined such tours since late 2008, according to Chen Hang, the China-born vice president of real estate at Fortune Group. The Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania, company shows foreclosed commercial property to Chinese buyers. Because the authoritarian government has imposed controls limiting China's exposure to international capital flows, the country has largely avoided the worst of the global financial crisis. Meanwhile, high-level incomes have continued to rise. China had the world's fifth-largest population of millionaires in 2008 with 391,000, up 20 percent from the previous year, according to Boston Consulting Group. But Chinese with money in the bank have few good investment options at home. Real estate prices have cooled and stock prices peaked in October 2007 after a two-year boom that saw shares rise six-fold in value.

  • Observer
    Feb. 13, 2009 1:46 p.m.

    HEY UTAH - I can't believe how nave so many people in Utah are. Dont you realize that we are the ones who put these so called representatives into office, they work for us not the other way around. I have done some legwork and let me tell you this so called stimulus package is a travesty! The only thing this it will stimulate will be the pockets of these fat cats we call Congress. If these bleeding heart Liberals would take the time to read the Constitution they would see why it was so important not to have a centralized government, which is what the shadow Obama and his henchmen are perpetrating. I myself am doing everything I can to make my voice be heard by writing, calling our reps and letting them know this is a bad bill. It is impossible to read over 2,000 pages of pdf legalese in the time allotted. This very important legislation should be debated for weeks not hours.

  • You all get
    Feb. 13, 2009 1:33 p.m.

    what you voted for. I have told people for years that when the Democrats need Jim Matheson, he's there for them. He doesn't vote for the people of Utah he votes for the Democratic party. There is no such thing as a liberal Republican or a conservative Democrat. They needed Jim and he came through for them.

  • BOOOOO!
    Feb. 13, 2009 1:09 p.m.

    1,071 pages, 8 inches thick with trillions of dollars being spent - HOW can our House of Reps (and now senators) can have read through it all and made sure all the money is being wisely spent - money that is ours, and not just some abstract free bottomless pit of goverment funds - it is NOT free, it is NOT bottomless, it is NOT theirs.

    Please review history - FDR actually made the Great Depression worse and longer than it otherwise would have been, by spending funds the goverment didn't have.

    Everyone is crying out to DO SOMETHING, ANYTHING, just do it. So President Obama has to grant our wishes and "do something" but in this case, doing less is far better than throwing good money after bad.


    BOOOOO! Write your sentators and ask them to CAREFULLY scrutinize ALL of it and only pass the PARTS that need to be, not the whole thing!

  • All Crap
    Feb. 13, 2009 1:03 p.m.

    This is prime evidence that we need to separate from the United States. These idiots never even read the big give away to all the pet leftist projects and leaves about $11 per week to the working folks.

    Here are the True Issues:
    1. Trade
    2. Taxation
    3. End of the Central Bank...!!!!!!!!!

    They will kill us if we don't reject this and those forces behind it.