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Published: Wednesday, Feb. 11 2009 12:00 a.m. MST

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Classic Rock

Huntsman has just gone on the "politically correct" bandwagon. Gee whiz, why didn't he tell us republicans this was how he felt before election? We could have gotten a real conservative in there. I'm sick of these lying politicians. Now I won't believe anything he says, because he changes with the wind.

ConservativeRepublican

I have voted and supported the GOP all my life. I am pro-life, pro-2A, a lover of economic freedom, and a supporter of our military.

But I'm also a gay man. My partner and I would like to get married in the near future (or at the very least, get a civil union), but we are unable to without moving to some leftist place like Massachusetts. Because of that fact, we're already making our moving plans. I know, I know, good riddance to bad rubbish, right? Just tell me, why is two, secure, honest, hardworking conservative men who have never harmed a soul getting at least a civil union such a bad thing that some of you would rather us move than support our rights?

ConservativeRepublican

To continue from above (200 word limit required splitting the post into two parts):

I am obviously not LDS, but I am a Christian who has lots of LDS relatives and friends. I guess I just don't understand why legalizing gay marriage harms the LDS concept of marriage when you guys and gals already have something that you believe is more sacred than regular civil marriage. No reasonable person is saying that the LDS Church should start performing temple marriages for gays. It is your Church's right to set its own requirements for membership, recommends, and so forth. All we're asking for is the right to civil marriage (or at least a civil union).

Laura

I've decided that I want to be his kid. How lucky they must be. All they have to do is throw a fit and they get what they want. What a life, hey?

Hey Classic Rock

I agree that politicians change with the wind. So, obviously using your iron-clad logic, I'm sure you did NOT vote for Mitt Romney.

Laura

'to laura' said: | 9:26 a.m. Feb. 11, 2009

"Could you enlighten me?"

No, I don't think I can.

To Laura

"Laura | 1:46 p.m. Feb. 11, 2009
'to laura' said: | 9:26 a.m. Feb. 11, 2009

"Could you enlighten me?"

No, I don't think I can. "



That is because he has done nothing against the constitution. He actually is supporting Amendment #14.

You, Laura, do not have a leg to stand on.

RE: To Laura at 2:06

The Supreme Court has already said that states do not violate the 14th Amendment when they prohibit same-sex marriage. Baker v. Nelson

Anonymous

RE: To Laura at 2:06 | 2:44 p.m. Feb. 11, 2009
The Supreme Court has already said that states do not violate the 14th Amendment when they prohibit same-sex marriage. Baker v. Nelson


But what has Huntsman done to go against the constitution? She (Laura) has no reply.

lost in DC

ConservativeRepublican, I read your comments with some sympathy. You say no reasonable person is saying that the LDS church should start performing temple marriages for gays.

the sticking point is that word "reasonable" Unfortunately too many on both side of this issue are unreasonable, as evidenced by beatings of gay people just because they are gay and the vandalism and intimidation and hatred aimed at the LDS church because of it's support for prop 8. I'm not comparing murder to property damage, please don't get that idea, but remember that mormons were the target of an executive termination order from the state of MO.

I think a generation ago reasonable people would have said a photographer would not be successfully sued for declining to take a job photographing a gay wedding or that a religious group would be successfully sued for refusing to rent it's hall for a gay wedding. The definition of of 'reasonable' is too fluid.

What a Joke!

Who does Huntsman think he is fooling. I'm incensed that he would have people believe he is a conservative, while not holding to the teachings he was taught by his parents and grandparents. His Grandfather; David B. Haight, must be turning over in his grave. I knew him personally and he would not be pleased with Huntsman not supporting the sanctity of the marriage covenant. Perhaps, he should be impeached for his views. He certainly does not reflect the values of his family, society or Church!

Anonymous

lost in DC:

Anyone can sue anyone else for whatever they want to, if they can find a lawyer to represent them.

The trouble comes when a judge must look at the suit and see if it has merit.

With our strong first amendment, there is very little that a suit of that kind could get this pass any judge. Remember, those other suits were decided about tax payers monies (or tax exemptions). Our church is not taking any money from the government.

Canada has gay marriage and no one is suing to be married in the Calgary temple. No one in Mass is suing to be married in the Boston temple.

Why are you so afraid of this? Gay marriage is in quite a few countries but this just isn't happening.

To What a Joke


"Who does Huntsman think he is fooling. I'm incensed that he would have people believe he is a conservative, while not holding to the teachings he was taught by his parents and grandparents. His Grandfather; David B. Haight, must be turning over in his grave. I knew him personally and he would not be pleased with Huntsman not supporting the sanctity of the marriage covenant. Perhaps, he should be impeached for his views. He certainly does not reflect the values of his family, society or Church!"



Actually, the church is on record as not being opposed to civil unions. Gov. Huntsman is NOT saying anything that the church has not said. Look up what Elder Clayton said about civil unions.

Jane

A "moderating voice" would not create an all male Board of Pardons. A "moderating voice" would give women a voice.

Julie Pollock

Huntsman is trying to change Utah into a "little California" on so many issues so it is only natural (for him) that this would be his position.

In every state that has approved "civil unions" it has ALWAYS been followed with the push to change the meaning of "marriage". THEY WILL NEVER BE SATISFIED UNTIL WE CALL THIS MARRIAGE!

I hope voters keep pressure on their State Reps. and Senators to vote against such measures.


Re: Re: Albemar

The 10th posting on this very article is a story from Utah. (See below)

However does it really matter? Readers who post comments like yours don't want to know the truth and will find another reason to deny these stories and belittle gays & lesbians.

Just say it like it is, you don't care about these human beings and don't care if they are treated unfairly. Honesty no matter how ugly sounds better than sugar coated disingenuous lies.

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"My partner was @ LDS hospital last year. He was incoherent and unable to understand what was going on. His family had disowned him years prior.

It was not until I provided a copy of our medical power of attorney that the hospital would even let me know what was going on. He had been moved to ICU by the time I could return with the paperwork they accepted. I could not even locate him for a few hours, let alone see him."

Ed Meyer

I hope people read what Governor Huntsman said very carefully. His view includes issues such as the rights of children caring for their aging parents and grandparents caring for grandchildren. Both situations are increasingly common, especially in times of economic stress. Another increasingly common situation involved people who choose to not be married... ie: senior citizens who do not married because it would impact their Social Security... and, yes, people who live together in loving relationships. There are many things that should be done in a compassionate society and allowing for legal rights between loved ones, gay or not, is something that needs to be seriously considered. Personally, I get personally disgusted when the semantics of a single word "marriage" gets in the way of compassionate service. I don't care what you call it, God will recognize what he... or she... chooses. We are not the ones who will make that call. We should practice true charity toward everyone and err on the side of being more compassionate than less.

KOY

Smiling Johnny wont win another election in utah unless he runs as a Dem. If he runs for Senate as a GOP he wont make it out of the convention.

DRN

"Being created equal means that each voter has the same rights and gays who are a minority don't have the right to rule the majority. That's tyranny. If you have any questions please feel free to spout off more nonsense."

Be careful, 3:37. The "Tyranny" door can swing both ways. It only depends on which side of the issue you're on. The majority can tyrannize the minority just as effectively, which is definitely the case in Utah!

Holmes

Every last person on this list wants our society to be a more stable and responsible society, don't you?

Civil unions and marriage equality promote a more stable society for all of us. We should ALL be for civil unions, especially those who claim to believe in family values.

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