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Utah's job outlook grim

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Really? | 1:33 a.m. Feb. 10, 2009
If this is the case, why is the Senate so bent on implementing a guest worker program/amnesty for illegal aliens living in the state (SJR1)? Shouldn't the few available jobs be reserved for citizens only? Perhaps the SL Chamber of Commerce should back off this ill-advised plan.
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American jobs | 3:24 a.m. Feb. 10, 2009
Utah and america need jobs not dependent on government spending nor to preserve the presence of illegals taking jobs away from americans. America as a whole must become a manufacturing and producing nation instead of a consumer nation. The whole economy is dependent on producing something and there is proof of this as you look at where america have moved their manufacturing and production part of their business. The consumer nation is doomed without manufacturing to create jobs and keep it workers employed. A tourist based industry is not such a great thing if people don't have jobs to enjoy their free time. Our country is in the worst condition since the depression, all because business has declared that the american workers expect too much from a job. Corporate america doesn't think the american workers should benefit from their labors to build and create a thriving and profitable business. Those same corporate leaders have found out what made them become what they are, the american worker, who they have shunned and denied as of any value. America was built by the working people, not corporate profits or illegal foreign nationals.
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Mike Ridgway | 4:14 a.m. Feb. 10, 2009
So that Republ - "I Can" campaign that Republican State Party Chair, Stan Lockhart, orchestrated before the November elections.... It wasn't true?

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Chris J | 5:26 a.m. Feb. 10, 2009
I agree. Lay off amnesty for illegal aliens, and don't reward them with Jobs the real tax paying citizens should get.
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Stan | 6:08 a.m. Feb. 10, 2009
In reply to "Really", since when was government logical. We live in the most illogical age of the world. The only thing we have learned from history, is we haven't learned anything.
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Denial a river in Utah | 6:10 a.m. Feb. 10, 2009
The fact is that Utah still doesn't think it's in a recession. There are still too many people who haven't been affected, or have their stores and figure they can wait it out.

(Anecdote follows:)House hunting this weekend, I was surprised at how few of those selling their homes really were that motivated. Prices are still too high, and I didn't see one single home that had been freshly painted (A relatively EASY and inexpensive home improvement (when compared with things like new carpet, flooring, or roof))

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GatewayToNevada | 7:45 a.m. Feb. 10, 2009
Probably time to rescind all of the H1-B visas, too.
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oldman | 7:52 a.m. Feb. 10, 2009
Bush and his cronies will continue to influence us and future generations. It is amazing that one man and his cronies could do so much destruction. Hey - but - what he worry?
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Re: Oldman | 8:28 a.m. Feb. 10, 2009
Can we PLEASE stop blaming everything on GW Bush? How about some personal responsibility? Or at least placing some of the blame on Pelousy, Reid, Frank, Dodd, etc. who presided over a failure in congress the past 2 years and Frank and Dodd in particular asleep at the wheel as chairs of the banking and finance committees. It was the Demos as I recall who forced home loans to be given to low lifes.

And how about the media who continues to quote any "expert" they can find who predicts doom and gloom? We're going to talk ourselves into a depression! It almost seems that's what some (including many liberals) want.

We the people hold the power. We decide when this downturn has bottomed out. Scaring people to run like lemmings is irresponsible and, I believe, criminal.

Why do I have to share in the pain of a bunch of greedy slobs on Wall Street or "house flippers" in California? I never benefited. Why am I now paying the price?
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tk | 9:00 a.m. Feb. 10, 2009
I'm just one little company, who was planning to do an addition to our inn. I learned last week appraisers are afraid to give full value because (1) they think they are being watched over their back and (2) they are using as comps homes which have been foreclosed bringing everyone's value down. So now, apparently, I'm in an upside down situation with our wonderful historic building and can't get the financing to make the additions, which I have figured would have about doubled our business requiring at least two more full time - or at least part-time people. Add to that loss the loss of all the construction, landscaping I am now unable to complete, including solar panels.
And my appraisal two years ago I thought was very fair, not inflated; we are never late on our payments, etc. I look at my situation as its own little stimulus package gone awry. I need financing and especially I have to not be punished by appraisals using foreclosures to arrive at price per foot. I look around at a few empty houses and I pretty much know who was there. Help me, please.
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max | 9:31 a.m. Feb. 10, 2009
Walk into any Wal-Mart see whos doing all the buying. Illegals with 3 kids and one one the way.( They all vote) Americans first with the jobs. Unemployed Go to these employer who hire these illegals and ask for their job.
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FYI | 9:40 a.m. Feb. 10, 2009
This is interesting considering Smart Money ranked Utah as one of the top 5 Places With Promising Job Prospects.

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Anonymous | 10:27 a.m. Feb. 10, 2009
Where was the why in this article? Why is Utah to be among the hardest hit with job loss?
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Obama Lied | 10:47 a.m. Feb. 10, 2009
Any other president could have prevented this devastating job loss in 2009. Obama is the worst of all of the candidates. You the people are paying the price of your vote......
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Anonymous | 10:50 a.m. Feb. 10, 2009
FYI: why is Kohls on the radio announcing job openings? Propoganda. Around here it's getting quite silly... history has proven fear will make things worse.
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Accentuate the positive... | 11:08 a.m. Feb. 10, 2009
...eliminate the negative.

"Grim"? Cheer up people.
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White boy | 11:26 a.m. Feb. 10, 2009
The illegals are doing jobs YOU don`t want,don`t you get it??? Are any of YOU PEOPLE gonna go roof a house when it`s 100 degrees??? or go milk cows down in Sanpete??? I think not,If the illegals were blond/blue-eyed from Denmark would you fell the same??? Hypo-crits
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lost in DC | 12:25 p.m. Feb. 10, 2009
one glaring weakness I see with the article is that it does not give a starting point. Without that we have no perspective. Utah has among the lowest unemployment rates in the nation. I know that is of little comfort to those out of work right now, but it is a fact.

if we are projected to go from 4.7% unemployment to 6.7%, that's a 200 basis point increase. If another state went from 9.6% to 10.8%, that's only a 120 basis point increase. Since Utah would have a greater increase, you'd think we were worse off, but I'd much rather have 6.7% than 10.8% unemployment.


Now I don't know that those are the actual numbers and projections, but since the article is silent about that type of information, you don't know. But then, gloom and doom sell more newspapers than do well researched, complete articles.
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obama | 1:36 p.m. Feb. 10, 2009
The fundamentals of our economy are to blame. We have been living on borrowed time. Go back and look at history...a services based economy (i.e. we don't make anything) never lasts.
Now as far as non-tax paying workers who use our hospitals, schools, etc... As soon as the lazy blue eyed danes get HUNGRY, they will go pick fruit or roof a house. Yes.. hunger has a way of leveling everything.
But, don't worry. My bailout plan will encourage the "middle class" to synthetically exist (we all know the middle class is an abberation created by the 20th century industrial revolution) for a while. Therefore they won't be as motivated (read hungry) to take those disgusting jobs from the non-tax paying workers.
So, sleep well and everyone please enjoy my stimulus!!
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don't believe it | 1:40 p.m. Feb. 10, 2009
notice that this article gave very little if any specifics about why Utah was going to be among the worst unemployment states in 09. I personally don't believe it. The Wasatch Front doesn't have alot of manufacturing jobs or big production plants that are getting hit so hard nation wide. There are alot of small to mid size businesses and I haven't heard any huge layoffs planned for any of these companies going forward. When you write an article like this you really need to be specific if you are going to cast such a gloom and doom scenario. This article was very poorly written.
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