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Anti-BCS resolution introduced

Ernesto de Bajo | 9:34 p.m. Feb. 5, 2009

What I like about this resolution is that it correctly calls the NCAA on the carpet. The collegiate-sport governing body sits by as a powerless and neutered spectator while the bowl system, after growing a serpent's head, hijacks what should be the NCAA's right to establish a national championship process.

To really understand how pathetic and duplicitous the NCAA is in this debacle, consider that the highest division, Division 1-A, was renamed the Football Bowl Division. Unbelievable!

Laguna Niguel Ute | 1:01 a.m. Feb. 6, 2009

This is all about Utah Politics. The University of Utah and our great football team has and will continue to be viewed as a bunch of small time, small conference winners. This political hype is beneath the high standards of a great Utah football program that is being used with total disregard of national reputation of our team,coaching staff and fans. We had a great year and received the attention of a nation. Why let a bunch of political types, including the State's Attorney General make a mess out of great season? Do they really think that the rest of the world will respect Utah or the Mountain West Conference, or WAC, or other non BCS teams because of this resolution?

RE;laguna niguel ute | 7:20 a.m. Feb. 6, 2009

so second place is good enough for you huh?

you sound like a man with no back bone!

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UUH8R | 8:11 a.m. Feb. 6, 2009

Dont you people on capital hill have anything better to do with the tax payers money than this. You all sound like a bunch of sore losers. Yes, Utah had a great season and should have been higher in the rankings. The MTW also had a great year. But that does'nt change the fact that there are far more important things to do with our money than this crap. All 11 conferances agreed to this stupid system. The only way it will ever change is to have the lower conferances produce quality teams every year, not just every 4 years. Stop wasting our money on crap like this and find something alot better to change in the Utah State Legislature, like the lobby laws. All that is, is just a legal bribe. You dont want to change that though do you, it would just take all thoughs free gifts out of your pocket. If I am going to pay taxes, I want my tax used in a more useful manner. My post is not about the U of U it is about the waste of tax payers time and money and the wasteful use of it

UUH8R | 8:23 a.m. Feb. 6, 2009

I agree with Laguna Nigual Ute. This bill makes The U of U and the state of Utah out to be sore losers. This bill simply takes away from the season that Utah had and makes you look like a bunch of whinners. It is that simple. Ernesto De Bajo it makes you look like a poster child for unhappy Ute fans across the state that are not happy with the success that the season had for all Utah fans.

the BCS IS un-American | 8:29 a.m. Feb. 6, 2009

Good to see this brought up again, but what happened the last couple of times an undefeated team was never considered for the Nat'l Championship [2004, 2006]. Enough posturing. Either DO IT, or DON'T DO IT. If we DON'T DO IT now, we can't complain when it happens again in the future. This is the 3rd time in 5 yrs! Statistically, there's a 60% chance this phenomenon reoccuring sometime by 2012.

If we ARE going to DO IT, let's also make sure that these types of proceedings won't inspire ESPN, sportswriters, and BCS Bowl Coalitioners to sabatoge worthy teams from proving it on the field like they did to Utah back in 2004. If the Broncos could beat an Oklahoma, and the Utes could destroy and embarrass an Alabama, would we be tempting the BCS commissioners to ensure the next BCS-buster won't be relegated to the most irrelevant bowl like the Fiesta in '04, or the Orange in '08?

Better be proactive in THAT regard.

to UUh84: get a life | 8:53 a.m. Feb. 6, 2009

Give me a break. This does NOT make Utah look like a sore loser. Utah was very gracious in taking its BCS bowl win and finishing 2nd in the final AP vote while garnering 16 first-place votes.

BUT the only way to end something that is unfair is to press legal action when there is a case to cause action. It was the only way to introduce Title 9 for equal opportunities for college sports, and it's the only way to end something that is unfair. Utah's unbelievable season gave such opportunity.

UUh8r is nothing more than a jealous Y fan who can't stand that BYU's ONLY undefeated season in their history - a full 25 years ago - created such an uproar that the major conferences felt the need to create an exclusionary club called the BCS - while Utah's undefeated season is creating the OPPOSITE hype - where most of the nation thinks that they SHOULD have been given a fair shot at being #1.

Great job for pushing this bill forward. I know that nationally, most do support the movement.

It Matters | 10:16 a.m. Feb. 6, 2009

This resolution is a good use of the taxpayers' money.

The U of U is state school that receives tax dollars.

If the BCS is gone and a national playoff exists there is more money on the table for these schools to win through excellence in sports.

Thus helping to alleviate the tax burden.

Not the only issue | 10:53 a.m. Feb. 6, 2009

True, the BCS gives a political national championship but my biggest gripe is about the unfair distribution of the money. The monopoly of the BCS money will drive the "BCS conferences" to have better facilities, exposure while leaving the others behind. BCS has created two different leagues in college football.

re: UUH8R | 11:11 a.m. Feb. 6, 2009

You would be singing a different tune had it been the tdS who had gone 13-0, had no opportunity to play for the NC [despite a weak SOS], and ended up #2. The irony is that while nothing can be done to give the Utes at least a share of the NC they deserved any more than the tdS can have their '84 trophy revoked [on the grounds of common sense], these steps being taken by the Legislature are the process to ensure FUTURE undefeated non-BCS teams can have the access the '04 and '08 Utes and the '06 Broncos had been denied. This even includes...the tdS. UUH8R is just further evidence there is no such thing as a rational or objective Y fan, only UH8Rs.

48-12!

GO UTES!

UUH8R | 12:02 p.m. Feb. 6, 2009

Still a stupid waste of tax payer money any way you look at it. There are better things to do with our money. BTW I would not be singing a differant song if the shoe was on the other foot. I would get over it and move on. I guess all the yewt fans love to whimper and whine every time they get a chance, lets see how we can waste tax payer money on the next thing that happens in utah athletics.

Re; UUH8R | 12:29 p.m. Feb. 6, 2009

how is improving our universities a waste of tax payer money? It matters clearly pointed out how this helps the budget and tax payers. Wouldn't want want the U to have better facilities? ps not all Y fans are against this. I bleed blue but when it come to the BCS I bleed anything that isn't from their country club I mean "BCS" schools. There are HUGE financial matter that go into this. So it is a very, VERY important issue

PP | 12:30 p.m. Feb. 6, 2009

----. The irony is that while nothing can be done to give the Utes at least a share of the NC they deserved any more than the tdS can have their '84 trophy revoked [on the grounds of common sense], t----

That's a brilliant comment since the Utes are using exactly the same argument that gave BYU the trophy in the first place. Maybe you should use some common sense when you post. And I also disagree with UUH8T, the legislature has the ability to do several different things.

Re: PP | 12:51 p.m. Feb. 6, 2009

The Utes are not "...using exactly the same argument that gave BYU the trophy..." BYU fans like to parse sentences iterated by Ute fans and try to claim a 13-0 1984 BYU team is the same as a 13-0 2008 Utah team. Utes see a difference. The '84 cougar team had a WEAK SOS. The '08 Ute teams SOS was ranked #32, and defeated 4 ranked teams.

UUH8R | 1:05 p.m. Feb. 6, 2009

Still the same argument but with differant words

Now is the time | 1:17 p.m. Feb. 6, 2009

Pursue this! While it does cost money, it's an investment the next time a team busts the BCS.

Now is the time to take a stand and create a fair system!

Biting the Hand | 1:34 p.m. Feb. 6, 2009

While the system in place is not one of great worth and robs every one of the opportunity to compete, I fear we are biting the Hand. By the states actions I feel that the BCS would choose another school over a MWC if the situation arises like this year where you had Utah and BSU. WE are already behind the power curve due to our shunning of ESPN when we developed such a hi quality conference network tv deal that is available to all of the country through all cable and sattletite providers!! Be careful what you wish for!!!

Cheeks!! | 2:31 p.m. Feb. 6, 2009

The real reason the MWC is not included in the BCS is that BYU's football program is not up to par.

U should be thankful | 3:14 p.m. Feb. 6, 2009

Having 6 weeks to prepare for a team that was playing in a game that they didn't want to be in is much different than playing consecutive games against top ten teams. U should be thrilled at second place.

Cinderella only had to get up for one ball.

Waste of Time | 3:58 p.m. Feb. 6, 2009

The BCS would sit up and take notice of a class-action lawsuit or a U.S. Congressional investigation into its monopolistic hijacking of college football's post season, but a resolution passed the Utah State legislature is about as meaningful as complaints posted on this blog.

Cheeky | 4:02 p.m. Feb. 6, 2009

The only reason that Utah and Boise State and Hawaii had a chance of being included in the BCS was because of BYU's excellence in the 70's, 80's and 90's that forced the BCS to keep the door ajar for non-BCS teams.

Without BYU, Utah would have been on the outside looking in in 2004 and 2008, even with their undefeated seasons.

Re: Cheeky | 4:38 p.m. Feb. 6, 2009

The only reason that Utah, Boise St, and Hawai'i are required to BUST the BCS is because of the way the '84 Cougars unworthily backed into the National Champion trophy via the 4th easiest schedule in the country. BYU's 2-decade tradition of beating up on soft opponents, then losing the big game did neither Utah, Boise St, nor Hawai'i any favors.

But, leave it to a cougar fan to take credit for the accomplishments of others. Typical BYU arrogance!

Boycott? | 4:52 p.m. Feb. 6, 2009

With the BCS being renegotiated in 2012, what would happen if the schools from the five non-BCS conferences made a pact to refuse play against any BCS teams unless the system is made more fair? That would force BCS teams to stoop down to FCS (I-AA) or play each other. Such competition could really hurt a lot of the BCS schools, since they feed off the non-BCS.

Given the fact that most of the BCS conferences are good enough that they'd send their champion to a BCS game pretty much every year anyway, I bet they'd accept a uniform standard for all conferences under such conditions.

Re: Cheeky | 4:38 p.m. | 7:09 p.m. Feb. 6, 2009

Get over yourself!

Yada, Yada, Yada... | 7:12 p.m. Feb. 6, 2009

Cheeky | 4:02 p.m.

Yea, credit BYU for everything good that happens to anybody.

Fact is, BYU has never done anything to help anyone else. EVER! Who are you going to thank for that extra $1 Million this year???

Rational Outsider Looking In | 3:22 p.m. Feb. 7, 2009

Way to go, MWC Fans! Rip each other apart. That will do yourselves a lot of good. The last thing that you guys want to do is work together to improve your conference. Go ahead and try to claim all the credit for just 'your' school.

You are petty and immature. Get together for your own sakes. Who cares about the validity of the 1984 title? This happens on every BYU/Utah board. Total stupidity breaks out. Neither school gets respected like the teams you say they are and you aren't helping.

Anodyne | 10:38 a.m. Feb. 9, 2009

The current system is agreed upon by all 11 conferences? Uh... I'm sure the 5 conferences that have zero chance of getting a championship are okay with that. They agree like everybody in Cuba agrees that Fidel Castro is in charge.

Ryan | 11:41 a.m. Feb. 9, 2009

The conferences control college football. The NCAA does not. The conferences are independent and can legally do whatever they want. If any anti-trust lawsuit is brought against the NCAA or the BCS and even if they win, they will lose. The conferences will simply leave the NCAA, and continue business as usual. UTAH I think is in the right, and do have a legitimate gripe. As a fan of college football, I personally would not have made them the national champion. Is it unfair that college football does not have a playoff? Yes. There is simply no way to make a fair system for 100+ football teams to play a season and FAIRLY have a playoff. If you don't agree, think about it for a minute. There's no way. What might happen though, is we'll get 6-8 conferences with 10-12 teams and all other teams would be left out. Utah might be one of the left outs. I would think they would be the first left out if it was there people who started this process.

SEC # 1 | 2:39 p.m. Feb. 9, 2009

It not that the BCS has anything against Utah, BYU or TCU. It's the MWC conference, there are to many weak teams. The smart thing to do is to go independant, then you will get your 'shot" if it is deserved. As long as Utah and the rest remain in the MWC you have no chance in playing in a NC game.

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