Wait...are we living in the US? Oh wait, thats right we do have
freedom...right? I personally don't believe the government has any
say to what I send-or don't send through txt. If I want to send a picture of
myself to my husband should that be considered a crime?If underage
children are sending unappropriate pictures I believe this problem should be
resolved by the parents; not any concern to the government. People
are always going to find a way to abuse innocence-why punish those who are doing
Many times I have sent a text to the wrong number by switching a number or two
up. Im not a big fan of porn but it is under peoples freedom of speech as long
as they are not maliciously trying to offended others. Here a simple mistake
that has been blown out of proportion due to this mother trying to force her
morals or ideas of what she feels is right or wrong on to other people who dont
share the same view. get off your personal vendetta and find something more
constructive to do with you time. Stop trying to destroy others lives because
you are a vindictive unhappy woman who probably sees this as an opportunity to
make some money when she tries to take it to civil court. get a life.
As a mom, I can understand why this mom took it to the police. Personally, I
wouldn't have handled it this way but to each their own. I actually received
such a text and picture a few months ago. I handled it by calling the number
back and letting the person know that what they had done was potentially
illegal, how I felt, and let them know I would be saving the number and if
anyone else I knew received such a thing then we would go to the police. The
guy was fortified and terribly embarressed. As for letting my children have
cell phones, each of them was added onto our plan when they started driving
alone for their safety. If I considered them mature enough to drive they could
handle a cell phone. I commend this young lady for going to her mom. Seems
like they have an open and trusting relationship.
I enjoy reading these comments, but please, check your spelling and grammar
before submitting your comments. It is far easier to digest an opinion when
translation is not necessary. It also lends more credibility to you, the
but, this guy was just testing the boundries of society and he lost.
The mother is wrong. Her child is the minor and her child is the one with the
cell phone...therefore the parent (mother) should be restricting who can call
her daughter over trying to make all cell phone content "child friendly". The U.S. government TRIED to make all the internet "child friendly" but
the courts saw through that and put the responsibility where it belongs...with
the parents to protect their own children! The courts chose not to violate the
free speech of adults on the internet! The same thing applies to cell
phones.Now we could solve this easily by banning all cell phones for
anyone under the age of 18 and then no harmful material could come to the eyes
of the minor. And why is there no nanny software for the cellphones of teenage
users like there is for computers? If teenagers must have cellphones, then the
restrictions should be placed on them to receive only callers or content
approved by the parent...and then there would be no danger of them receiving
adult material by accident!
Jess: Do you have a cell phone?"And I doubt this was an
accident--TWO messages were sent to this girl. What are the chances that you are
going to misdial the same number twice in a row?"All you have to do
is go into your text history or dialing history ... you don't have to actually
re-dial the same number, you can merely click on the last one. Hmm ...
technology, a funny thing it is. Yeah, I wouldn't want to receive a
photo text with genitals, but hey ... the phone also has a delete button. How
handy is that?!
Anne says, "Pornography is a poison that might be more damaging than cocaine. At
least cocaine can eventually leave the system."As a recovering
cocaine addict, I agree the drug eventually leaves the system, however, there
are still times when I think, "That high would be great."Pretty
strong words to say "Those who disagree with this truth are in complete denial
and are unwilling to see."Obviously you don't KNOW the truth and are
in complete denial in thinking that you see and know all.
This guy is obviously lonely and sick. The problem is that he didnt break the
law unless it was intentionally sent to this girl. If they dont know each other
it would be very hard to prove that it was intentional. If you care
about protecting your children DONT give them cell phones. If they have to have
a cell phone DONT give them text. The phone company can stop the texts if you
ask them not to provide text service. Your kids dont NEED text. But if you are
really serious about them not seeing anything counter to your beliefs you need
to home school them, disallow friends who havent passed serious evaluation by
yourself or a professional, dont give them access to a computer, and dont let
them leave the house without you. Otherwise they WILL see things you dont
approve of, guaranteed. Questionable media is everywhere. I feel bad for this
generation of kids. Not only is the world more deprave than ever, but we are
raising a generation of morality wimps who wont have the conviction or fortitude
to protect themselves or their children.
My kids and I have cell phones. I pay the bill so I can use the phone how I
want to, not to receive porn on. I think cell phones are a wonderful invention.
We need a do not send porn list just like we have a do not call registry for
our phones. I used to get very frustrated with the intrusive and interupting
phone solicitors who used my phone to advertise on. Fax machines were used to
send ads on until they passed a law making it illegal because the fax owner was
using his ink and paper to print useless advertising. I hope there is a way to
block texts from coming from a number that isn't preapproved.
I'm so sick of people who talk Christian values and than judge other people
without compassion and forgiveness. The girl needs to grow up, she'll see worse
in college art class and the guy needs to grow up and be more careful. Some
people are just too judging. This is not a crime its a mistake, not worthy of
newspaper print. Oh, by the way I'm LDS.
Okay then let's let every single flasher prowl any park they want to and expose
themselves to whoever they want to. According to your logic, kids aren't
traumatized by seeing nudity. There is a difference between art and porn.
There's a difference between loving spouses seeing a nude person and some creepy
pervert exposing themselves. I've never seen artwork in a church or museum that
shows only the sexual areas of the body. That art shows the entire body in it's
natural splendor and isn't intended for sexual arousal.
The Mom and daughter aren't the ones with a problem here. It's the idiot who
thinks other people actually care about what he looks like nekkid. Sounds like
he's the one with a mental problem. He's nothing more than a high tech flasher.
I was wondering the same thing; I wonder the homology among the actual number to
the intended number and if the intended recipient could verify that he/she could
expect a text of such diverse nature from the sender. If this man
cannot provide a number similar to the one he intended to send to he should
receive some form of citation. I have no problem with porn and
people using technology to communicate their awkward lusts for one another, to
each their own. However, if this man was trolling or procured the girls number
elsewhere and intended to send the picture to this girl, than the mother does
have a case, a neurotic, protective case, but a case nonetheless.
IT WAS LEWD CONDUCT WITH A MINOR, INTENTIONAL OR NOT.
Interesting thought, Ema! I think sometimes kids play and play with fire until
they get burned, then go running to their parents. Anne, I agree
porn is worse than drugs. I agree our society is in deep trouble. What's new?The truth is, very sad to say, porn is a fact of life. No one has been
able to fix it on my watch over the past 50+ years. It's like tornadoes. No one
has found a way to stop them, but they have learned how to prepare themselves
and their families against them. So what I'm saying is, and I am
religious by the way, yes, let's fight porn, but let's especially teach our
children how to prepare themselves for the day when it hits them---and it will.
Let's not deny either, that Utah does porn. Let's not deny that some
of the very parents who say we need to fight porn are hooked on it.So let's talk about integrity. Is what we are saying a true reflection of what
we are actually doing?Something to think about!
When I was in the army, I was occasionally subjected to porn just because of the
nature of our living quarters. Some was soft and some was shockingly gross
(none of it looked like paintings in a European church). Those gross images are
still, after 40 years, part of my memory--inprinted on my cerebral cortex and I
don't appreciate it. I don't intentionally try to remember these images but
things come up such as this article and the memory does come up. It hasn't done
me permanent damage at all, but I don't know what it might have done if I was
younger or more impressionable. Porn is porn and people young or old who don't
want to view it, shouldn't be subjected to it--even by accident. And I doubt
this was an accident--TWO messages were sent to this girl. What are the chances
that you are going to misdial the same number twice in a row? Some are
defending this pervert, but would you like him living next door to you and your
You were looking at another women, someone elses daughter, perhaps, someone
elses wife, with lust.Explain to me again how that is okay.
Do you people realize that if this guy gets convicted he will forever be a sex
offender? Doesn't seem like he deserves to have is life ruined and to be
mentioned with rapists and pedophiles.
"Jumpin jack is right. The mother needs to file a civil suit".I
think the guy who sent these pictures needs to file a suit against the mother
and the police for blowing this who thing out of proportion. If people would
start doing this we wouldn't have frivolous lawsuits and prosecutions.What actual harm does it do a 17 year old or any child to see body parts? Go
to any art museum, they are all over the place, and as one poster here said,
even in the churches of Europe.
It would be interesting to know how similar the phone number of the teenager was
to the number he meant to send it to, since I'm assuming his argument is that he
just hit a wrong number somewhere in there. What I'm wondering is why the guy
was sending a naked pic to someone not already saved in his phonebook. You
know? Was he sending it to someone who's number he was just barely given? If
so, I find that very funny/weird.
The man who sent pictures of his genetalia is lonely, confused and a sicko.Pornography destroys marriages and families. It objectifies women and
creates unreal expectations.Based on comments from this board, our
society is in deep trouble. Pornography is a poison that might be more damaging
than cocaine. At least cocaine can eventually leave the system. Those who
disagree with this truth are in complete denial and are unwilling to see.
Sure, porn is just plain stupid. Those who need to engage in it (however they
engage in it) are like little men who need big trucks. I know, it's not just
men, but what I'm saying is there's something lacking. So I say to those who
engage in porn, "YOU need to get a life!" Find someone you really care about and
make life real!And if parents are going to let their minor children
have cell phones, they need to also understand that there are responsibilities
and perils that go along with them. There comes a time when we have to let our
children experience the world and deal with it how they will. They have to get
their own life and live it someday. If you're living under a rock,
you're missing out on life. Coming out from under the rock doesn't mean you have
to always like the view, but under the rock, there is no view.
Guns, food, religion, porn, medicine can all be harmful if not used with
disgression.Free speech and freedom of religion are both protected
in the constitution.Yes porn sometimes is harmful, but so is
religion.We have evengelical christians, saying the earth is 12,000
years old, dumbing people down, and saying unless you don't believe as they do,
you go to hell forever. Talk about emotional damage !!!Porn
deserves the same protections it as the Evengelical Christian church. Both have
damaged people, both I am sure have improved the quality of life for certain
people too, those that needed a sexual lift and those who needed structure in
their life, and didn't want or care about the truth.
Like with all things close-mindedness and censorship cause more problems then
those they try and prevent. the girl was 17 yrs old, she should know what male
genitals look like and while not necessarily attractive, it shouldn't be
perceived as gross or perverted. the responsibility falls on the mom. her
puritan ways and beliefs raise her children in an unrealistic fantasy world.
this little bubble we live in called Utah is not the entire world. many parts of
the world are more acceptable to nudity and there not all mass murderers. i
suggest this mom grow up, take responsibility and educate her daughter rather
than censor her from everything
Porn should be illegal?Who are you to say what is and is not
acceptable speech or expression? Should a pornographer be allowed to restrict
the equal rights of a religious person, based on their opinion of the harm that
religion causes? Let us remember that to be free, you must allow
others to be free as well. I agree, shame on this mom for sacrificing an
innocent person (innocent of causing actual harm) to her preferences. I maintain
that this poor example has harmed her daughter more than any picture of natural
body parts that even Jesus had.
I just got back from Spain. There, at 10:00 p.m. movies that we consider porn
are shown on regular t.v. I was a bit offended because of my beliefs. However,
I did not see where there were serial killers running amok. Further, there were
no reported drive-by shootings in the two weeks I was there. In fact, we were
treated kindly by everyone. It was a very safe and pleasant place to visit.
So, my new opinion is... if you don't want to watch it, don't. As for the rest
of us, be offended if you will, but don't be afraid.
De-sensitize yourselves, Utah! This incident is not about whether pornography is
good or bad, but whether someone made a mistake or not
"Porn is a cancer that is rotting the foundation out from under America".Porn is not a cancer, it serves a useful purpose. There was a time when
my wife was withdrawn. Porn saved my marriage, allowed me to endure this
period, and kept me from looking for another woman.
In Europe they have nude bodies, showing all the parts painted on the ceilings
of the churches. In Europe the children don't seem to be any worse for it.Everyone says this material is harmful. I don't believe it.How is a child harmed by seeing this material? How is a child harmed by going
to church in Europe?Perhaps by hearing they will go to hell forever
unless they do this or don't do that, but not by the pictures.
Jumpin jack is right. The mother needs to file a civil suit. Monetary damage
will be enough to ensure that this guy dials safely in the future. The money can
go to counseling if this girl is as traumatized as she seems to be. This guy
doesnt deserve jail time. I agree with the people who said that this girl
shouldnt have a cell phone. When you have a cell phone, or you have the
internet, or email, you can reasonably expect that these things have certain
risks associated with them. You cant expect that you will never receive
pornographic email or see pornographic images on the computer. It happens. The
best thing to do is TEACH your children what it is and that you dont approve.
Tell them you wont be angry if they accidentally see it but that they should
delete it. They are right, this is a different world. We need to teach our kids
how to defend themselves from the inevitable accidents and not provide the
technology unless WE understand the corresponding risks. You cant expect the
world to protect your children, that is your job
It should be a crime REGARDLESS of whom it is sent to. Porn is a cancer that is
rotting the foundation out from under America.
Those who send pornographic images over cell phones take an inherint risk of
sending it to the wrong number. And with that risk, there is an inherint
responsibility. Those who participate in pornography make a
conscious decision to do so. Those who choose to not do so should not be
required to have such smut forced upon them by no choice of their own.Next time he better be 100%, and not one iota less, of the destination.If you go out in the country for some target practice, and due to
carelessness, shoot out the windows of someone's truck, you still have to pay
the damages. Hit the accelerator instead of the brake in a parking lot, and
smash a tail light on another car, you pay the damages. Sorry, but carelessness
is no excuse.
..someone is guilty of the crime when they either know the victim is minor or
"having negligently failed to determine the proper age of a minor."This is a no brainer. The man did not know nor could he know who he was
mistakenly sending the photo to, so how could even find the girl to to determine
her age?Perhaps mother and daughter could file a civil suit but no
law was broken.
Sending 2 wrong messages to the same number, back to back? The second more
graphic than the 1st? With no reply in between? The guy is either majorly
stupid or was trolling.Before judging too harshly, I would want to
know if the number was stored or typed. If typed, where is it written down or
how did he get it? I would also want to know the number of the person he
thought he was sending it to and whether that number was stored.Some
may say it was 'innocent'. I say the jury is still out.
I don't think that the person who sent this picture should have been prosecuted
for sending the picture to the wrong person - except that the picture was of a
pornagraphy nature. This should not be on text phones at all!!!! They should
make it illegal to be sending porn over text messaging.Porn is porn
- and it should be taken more seriously.This man should be held
accountable of sending a porn text period !! no matter who it ended up with.YES!!!! there is a victim here! The girl who got the pornographic text -
who will have that image in her brain for some time to come... she is a victim -
how can you be so callous? Just because you enjoy porn does not mean everyone
else does - nor do they want to. Some people think that it is absolutly horrible
and their rights are just as important as yours. If you want porn - fine it's
your life - have your trash - just don't force it on other people!!!! GROW UP
It was a stupid mistake, but it shouldn't be considered a felony.
A friend of mine accidentally sent a picture of his "geneter" (by the way, are
these people so sheltered and/or ignorant that they don't know the innocuous
word, "genitals"?) to his entire phonebook. Reaction from everyone, including
his mother: "That's gross."And no police were called...Everyone has accidents. If it happens twice it's intentional. This is a
misguided moral crusade, and someone is trying to harm a man's life to make a
point. That's disgusting.
So much vitriol against the mom here! What I wonder is how many of you attacking
the mom of this girl are doing so because you have sent pornographic pictures
through your phones as well? Or maybe you are just trying to pick a
fight.The guy sent a previous text to the girl before sending the
picture. Why didn't he wait for an acknowledgment of the text before sending the
picture? The picture of his genitals should be kept private. Why didn't he
insure the person receiving the text actually WANTED to see the picture? The thought of getting a picture message like that, whether on purpose
or by accident, is just plain icky.
Bot your argument holds no water. Porn movies are seen more than Hollywood
movies--and makes more money. We aren't a country full of homicidal manics.
Besides, no one said this was porn. It was a picture of a body part.But lets take a step back. Hasn't anyone either prank called someone or
received a prank call? So if you said something dirty you could go to jail? You
can say this isn't apples to apples comparison--but it is based on how
technology has changed. The problem is that the law doesn't change quickly
enough. Leaving this guy in limbo.
Ahhhhh... how did we ever grow up without cell phones? None of my children have
had or will have cell phones, and they seem to be getting along just fine.
Ditto to what mom said. "In our day, we had a name for people like this guy..."
There is no victim here.
It was an ACCIDENT!Leave the poor guy alone!
I hope you modern-day Puritans never do anything wrong accidentally.Then again, the more I think about it the more I fervently hope you get a
politically-ambitious prosecutor who turns your "innocent mistake" into a felony
Pornography is a drug that is ingested on sight. Once somebody has ingested it
there is not way to remove it from their mind. I believe that the number is
around 90% have viewed pornography by the time they are 16. When are we as a
nation going to realize the damage this is doing to our population and get rid
of this great evil?
This mom and the police are going overboard. And why deos the mom allow the
minor a device that she does not control? The mother is more guilty of
neglegence than an accidental phone call. I'm sure she has receiveid a few
accidental calls herself intended for a different number. There is no neglegence
involved by the sender, they must prove he knew this minor to prove neglegence
or intentions. As for pornography, that's subject to interpertatiion by each
individual. Puritans are more offended than open minded individuals. Sex and the
human body is nothing to be ashamed of, shame only creates mental problems and
this mom is suffering big time. If the mother wants to shelter her children from
reality then she should take full responsibilty and take the picture phone away
from her minor child so the minor child isn't tempted to produce her own
pictures to send to her freiends and unsuspecting receipents.
Oh yes, by all means Bot, let's take what a serial killer claims caused him to
murder dozens of people as reason for his criminal mindset. With all the porn
out there, I'm surprised we don't have millions of mass murderers just running
around killing everyone they can.
All pornography should be illegal. It has no socially redeeming value, and has
been shown to be harmful to innocent victims. Just ask Jeffrey Dahmer what
caused him to murder dozens of people!
One time, accident...come-on mom...don't you remember when you were 17 and saw
something...gees..get a life and stop whining..text back and say if you send
this againg and I will call the cops..2 time, yes...call the cops