Attorney general proceeding with BCS antitrust inquiry
Everybody that complains about this being a waste of money should think about
all the money that is involed in all sports...the nation is going broke, but all
the athletes and coaches are getting richer! It makes perfect sense for Shurtlef
to show what a monoploy the BCS is, and perhaps we as citizens will not keep
paying the outragous prices to watch these people play. We are giving our hard
earned money to these wealthy athletes.
"Shurtleff is offered support in BSC probe"Uh, I'm familiar with the
BCS, but not the BSC...
NCAA sports branded merchandise is big business. Who is # 1 influences sales
and hence we have trade restraint. Is it worth Utah taxes $$s, probably not.
Is it illegal, I think there is a chance that it is.
Everyone who thinks that Shurtleff should spend his time dealing with more
important issues, first needs to realize that he is an attorney general, not a
legislator. Second, you need to understand that the focus of the suit is a
legitimate antitrust violation by the BCS that results in the lost revenue to
Utah schools in the amounts of millions of dollars per year. Yes, I said per
year. True, these types of claims have been made in the past, but in order to
prevail in such a suit, evidence of the violation must be persuasive. Utah's
exclusion from the Championship game provides a very persuasive piece of
evidence that may be enough to prove that there is some contract or conspiracy
amongst the BCS that puts an unreasonable restraint on trade. I commend the AG
and wish him luck in his efforts.
So starkville mississippi is a big tv market? What about pullman washington?
And fans in other markets didnt raise the bcs money. Why should doormat sec and
acc schools get bcs money every year even though they are terrible? You make it
sound like fan quality wins championships. A team deserves a chance to win a
championship no matter how small. I bet utah would give up the money if it meant
a chance to play for a championship.
MWC whiners have to get in line behind a lot of other folks in hating BCS.However, having said that, if it is about money what makes you think nonBCS
schools (which are in small markets) deserve more money? If you can't sell your
tickets to BCS bowls and don't have any TV ad revenue what entitles you to money
raised from other fans and in other markets?
Utah is in the national news spotlight on something that's not embarassing to
the state. Most folks would like to see a playoff for the entertainment value
and even President-elect O is weighing in. So the publicity certainly might
benefit Shurtleff but this is a battle many Americans see worth fighting for.
As Shurtleff said, his job is to ensure laws are enforced, regardless of what
those laws are. To those whining about the state budget and their 401(k)s,
don't worry about it. Shurtleff's suit won't affect anything else. It's already
in the budget. The last thing I would want is an attorney general who choses
which laws should be enforced and which shouldn't be.
I'm not a lawyer, but I bet if this goes to court, BCS will win because MWC,
WAC, MAC, C-USA, and SBC actually signed off on the most recent contract.
Swofford has already spun that this week, as "all 11 conferences like the
current system."Years ago when suits were brought up, and people
were wondering why the NCAA doesn't assert control, rumors surfaced that it was
being held hostage by several BCS schools that threatened to leave the NCAA
altogether and form some kind of semi-pro league if it tried to take over. You
never know what is going on behind closed doors.
that's what lawsuits are generally for. to determine whether something is fair.
Whether or not college football is "fair" should not be the subject of
litigation. Utah had a classy season and can be proud of its accomplishments
regardless of what the BCS says. Filing a lawsuit will only make us look like
It's not about ensuring sports is played fairly...it's about money. Last I
checked the U was a state school. The BCS system ensured no chance for
recognition as National Champions translates to restricting $$$ from coming into
To all concerned about wasting money pursuing this, consider how much money
comes to the state and university with the #1 title not just for football but in
sales, tourism, etc. This is an "investment" well worth spending time on and
I'm not even a sports fan. It would be different if Utah were alone on this
appearing like a bitter loser, but do others are joining in on this. Do a news
search, it's being picked up all over the place. The opportunity for an
underdog to prevail is the only thing that catches my attention in sports and
that's what makes NCAA basketball playoffs exciting.
Thanks for once again showing how uneducated Cougar fans are about
sports.....bet you were one of the BYU to BCS fans before your game with TCU.
Utah beat 2 top 7 teams and 4 teams in the top 25....they are desrving and you
are not very bright
As a BYU alumni I have lots of stories of why I dislike the Utes. However,
without a doubt. Utah is #1 this year. The bcs needs to be stopped. I support
the AG 100%.
Shamless oppertunist2.5 Million with the same problemsHe is not
interested in listening to one man telling him the problemShurleff has
disgraced the office of Attorney GeneralHe is not interested in hearing we
have Judges making criminals out of honest peopleThe Judges are actually
insane men on the benchProsecutors are failing to do a proper
investigation to reach a conclusion, Over agressive Attorneys that failed to
make it on their ownThe Legal System is to expensiveThe Attorneys
are not properly trained as wellWe are a Nation Of Laws
AG Mark Shurtleff should conduct the probe and pursue any antitrust or other
violations uncovered. He should accept any assistance offered by other State AGs
and assure that only appropriate litigation or other action is taken on behalf
of the State of Utah.The Utah UTES (13-0) have performed and
conducted themselves as National Champions. Coach Whittingham has demonstrated
that "action speaks far louder than mere words," and that when words are used,
they should be used in a positive and professional manner.Let us
proceed by action and words that will repair the unfairness of the BCS system
but without all the negative hyperbole.
I think we are capable of working on more than one problem at a time.
How about the State focus on academic quality instead? Heaven knows it has gone
downhill considerably, shouldn't we pay attention to the most important things,
before we spend money on stupid stuff?
We are cutting the state budget to the bone but have enough funds for a legal
fight to ensure that sports is played fairly?
We are cutting the state budget to the bone but we have enough money to ensure
that sports is played fairly?
Sweet. Go get 'em Mark. There's nothing else to do. It's the state of Utah.
If the AG is unable to dismantle the BCS completely and we are forced to settle
on changes to the existing system, here are my suggestions.1. The
BCS must change its name to the BSS. I think we all know what that stands
for.2. All of the Good Ol' Boys who ran this scam must admit that
they had no intention of making the system fair, but to simply study anti-trust
laws and see how much money they could funnel into their conferences without
getting sued. 3. All non-BCS conferences are awarded damages to the
amount of 1/2 of all the winnings that were paid to BCS conferences over the
past 11 years.
Why doesn't Mark Shurtleff challenge the rigged elections that good ol' boy
Democrats and Republicans use to cheat American voters every election cycle?"Two-party system" means the exclusion of other political parties.Voters deserve more viable choices.
You declare Utah champions of ALL 119 teams. I did not realize they had PLAYED
all 119 teams! Last I checked they played 3 good teams, 3 other teams who
managed to win enough to go to a bowl, and an equal number of downright bad
teams! There are at least a half dozen teams who'd have been undefeated with
Utah's regular season schedule. Don't let that be your measure.P.S.
You must be a Washington State Cougar, there's NO WAY you're a BYU Cougar!
The BCS IS all about money, but do we have to spend our tax dollars to prove
that? I'd rather use the money elsewhere. The investigation sounds good, but
it WILL NOT make Utah the Champs. It WILL cost money. I agree with
"Shurtleff Opportunist". This is a flavor of the month topic. If Shurtleff was
that concerned about the BCS he'd have done this his first year in office.
Shurtleff is a shameless politician, but I hope he prevails. The Utes deserve
the national title. They are national champs in my book. We should all be
proud of their accomplishment.
Great thought--I hate the BSC, however I think AG's, and legislators should
spend their time on more important issues. I see more injustice in immigration
than in the BCS. My 401K is 50% of it's value from a year ago. Fix those
issues first then go for the BSC guns a blazing.
I am not a Ute but rather a lowly Aggie and we may never be in the BCS mix but
the bottom line is that once again we are mired in controversy and once again
the ACC and Big East put out mediocre (at best) football teams who jumped right
on the BCS train and took their millions while other more deserving teams were
left to the wayside. This is to say nothing about who the National Champs are. I
mean who saw Cincinnati pull out a come from behind win over Hawaii-HAWAII LOST
TO UTAH STATE!!!!! I realize I am using my school as a punching bag but it goes
to show how pathetic it is that Cincy received a BCS bid. Why? Because they are
part of some "BIG TIME" conference, PLEASE give me a freaking break!Now to the national champion debate-It doesn't matter if you are Utah, Texas
or USC they all have legit arguments. Bottom line is we will never know a true
champion under the current system. It is total BS (or should we say BCS:)).
I'm a BYU grad, but there is no doubt that Utah rolled this season, and deserved
to be the champion. The BCS is rigged. Only teams from the six BCS conferences
will play for the championship. I hate bullies, and that is exactly what the
BCS is. Anyone who says otherwise, is a crook and a liar. And that perfectly
describes all the university presidents who concocted and sustain the current
system. If the lower divisions in NCAA footbal can have a playoff, then, duh,
so can the highest level.
Much as it should happen, I just don't see it happening. It's as corrupt as
Illinois politics. But the money is enormous and the organization very tight.
I wish the process well. Polls say that 95% of Americans want a playoff. But
then again, it's not about the people. It's about the money mongering machine,
aka: BC$.I congratulate Florida for winning the championship of the
BCS machine. They are champs of the monopolied conferences.I
congratulate Utah for being NATIONAL Champions. They are the champs of ALL 119
schools, not by opinion, but by their play on the field. You don't have to have
a trophy to realize the truth.And, no, I'm not a Ute. I'm a Cougar.
For all of the controversy over the BCS, Shurtleff is a johnny-come-lately. BYU
AD Val Hale and Coach Gary Crowton wanted to sue the BCS about 7 years ago when
the Cougars were going to be shut out. There were rumbles of lawsuits 4 years
ago when the Utes went to the Fiesta Bowl and, as the article mentions, there
are people in Boise who feel the same. But Shurtleff is just grabbing for
headlines as he prepares to run for higher political office. He is a shameless
Perhaps the best way for the "good old boys" to get our message is to not buy
the products advertised during these games. Unfortunately, money talks in sports
I think that we have far more pressing problems then the BCS-the attorney
general should identify them and use his extra time to work on them.
The most blatant violation in the whole process is that BCS busters must share
their intake with all the non-BCS conferences while the BCS schools only have to
share within their own conference. This gives them much more money per school to
improve their facilities and improve recruiting prospects, while keeping the
outsiders diffused and less competitive.
I know the Lord put him in Congress for a reason!
There's been talk of legal action and legislation for YEARS. Enough talk, lets
see some lawsuits already! Send those corrupt, arrogant blue-bloods a message.
God Bless Mark Shurtleff! The BCS system is unfair and we all need to move
forward to a playoff system.