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  • Fact Check
    May 22, 2009 5:13 p.m.

    Huckabee spoke at the Southern Baptist National Convention held in Salt Lake City some years ago when they went door-to-door telling people that Mormonism is a non-Christian cult. Huckabee needs to be asked if he'll publicly condemn the Southern Baptist's hateful and misleading campaign against Mormons. Is he willing to speak out against his own church?

  • Agree with Patrick
    Jan. 23, 2009 6:58 p.m.

    Thanks, Patirck, for trying to be a voice of reason. I'm devoted LDS and am surprised at the opinions I'm reading here. People are so angry at Huckabee and I don't disagree that he said some hurtful things; I'm not exactly fond of him myself. But, he has the right to express his opinion. His comments don't change the facts of doctrine and policy or that even though imperfect that we as a people try hard to do the right things in our lives and care for others, even when we disagree. Just because someone doesn't like us doesn't mean we take our toys and go home or that we don't let them into our group. On the contrary, that is exactly the time when we need to be the kindest. Isn't the idea of being a Christian mean forgiving and including everyone?

  • Ross
    Jan. 22, 2009 2:28 a.m.

    To Patrick above,
    Pat, Protestants and Catholics have proselytized all over the world for centuries, do you think they have a double standard when those you proselytize don't accept your version of the Gospel?

    Proselytizing has nothing whatsoever to do with being or not being a Christian. Mormons are only doing what other Christians have done for centuries, but the Mormons haven't gone around the world killing people (remember Joseph Smith?) over a point of doctrine made up out of the minds of men who were threatened by excommunication, exile, or execution if they didn't come up with something they could agree on.

  • Paul Brock
    Jan. 15, 2009 12:19 p.m.

    Huckabee beat Mitt in Iowa and that is why we got John McCain. It wouldn't surprise me if both of them planned it that way. I am not a conspiracy nut. Probably nothing of the sort happened, but his remarks divided the fundamentalist Christian vote (fundamentalist defined as people who go to church and actually believe in Christ)and allowed John McCain to be nominated. CAn you imagine Mitt as president now during this economic melt down. His knowledge of our economy would save us from the current administrations movement to a collectivist society. Huckabee identifies with those nut cases that hold up the signs at General Conference.

  • Anonymous
    Jan. 14, 2009 9:11 p.m.

    Will someone please take this story down? This is spiraling into the abyss.

  • Anonymous
    Jan. 14, 2009 4:06 p.m.

    Tami,

    Because it doesn't matter if he love Mormons, he knows how petty Mormons are.

  • Tami
    Jan. 14, 2009 9:52 a.m.

    If he has such a high opinion of members of the church why is he afraid that eggs and rotten vegetables will be thrown at him when he visits?

  • re:Yeah | 4:21 p.m. Jan. 13, 200
    Jan. 14, 2009 9:17 a.m.

    ref: "George, if you go to church, you will hear some love being preached."
    But, in whose interpretation?
    The baptists, mormons, lutherns, quakers, islam, judism, pagan, taoism, etc.

    So many religions with two things in common: 1. they are all influenced by man/woman, and; 2. not one single gathering/congregation has their God as their minister/pastor/bishop/etc.

  • Rick
    Jan. 14, 2009 8:57 a.m.

    There is valid reason why other religions do not see mormons as christian because christ is very different in their view. Mormons see jesus as their brother and god as a glorified man. Others see christ and god as not even of the same speices as man much less related: the definition of jesus/christ/god are very different. Therefore, when mormons say they are christian they are saying something different than what others are saying.

  • Blaine from Utah
    Jan. 14, 2009 8:21 a.m.

    I fully respect Mike Huckabee. He is a politician that was a victim of the press. It tends to happen to almost every politician. I thought that he showed the real American way and that deserves respect. I hope he tries again for the Presidency. I think he would make a great President. He has morals and values, and backs up what most Utahns believe in those same values.

  • Re: Baptist Sally
    Jan. 13, 2009 11:24 p.m.

    I don't see what's evil about standing up for oneself or one's beliefs. I do think, however, that this forum went on way too long. It was not newsworthy to begin with.

  • Baptist Sally
    Jan. 13, 2009 10:10 p.m.

    What evil people on here. Too many of you.

  • Yep,after reading this......
    Jan. 13, 2009 9:43 p.m.

    Mr Huckabee has the mormons pegged out well.

  • Yeah
    Jan. 13, 2009 4:21 p.m.

    I can take it...people telling me I'm not a Christian...but it's hard on the kids. George, if you go to church, you will hear some love being preached...on the blogs, we are like people getting behind the wheel...it brings out the worst in all of us...or most of us. Politicians know what they are doing...and I personally am sick of it all...I'm worried where this country is going right now. But do the ones who don't play dirty politics ever win? Except maybe Reagan...and he had to get pretty tough in the debates.

  • Anonymous
    Jan. 13, 2009 4:11 p.m.

    That goes for you too Lunatic L.

  • Anonymous
    Jan. 13, 2009 4:10 p.m.

    For goodness sake LG, Mitt withdrew early, supported McCain and did it all for the good of the Repubs. and the country. He does have a lot of class.

  • LG
    Jan. 13, 2009 2:34 p.m.

    Mitt Romney is a world class phony. He went from a left of center moderate (as gov. of Mass.) to a raving right winger. Romney would say anything to get elected and should never again hold public office!

  • Lunatic Liberal
    Jan. 13, 2009 2:27 p.m.

    Mitt Romney is a world class phony. Huckabee should have a problem with him. His flip-flopping makes John Kerry look consistent. He made an amazing transformation in the GOP primary from left of center moderate to right wing panderer.

  • mungagungadin
    Jan. 13, 2009 12:59 p.m.

    Huck,

    No, Romney wasn't any different. Since you can't give an apology without saying it was someone else's fault, don't offer it at all.

    You aren't liked in Utah for good reason.

  • Re: Anonymous
    Jan. 13, 2009 10:55 a.m.

    "Intelligent conversation" is not the same as "grammatically correct."

  • George
    Jan. 13, 2009 9:24 a.m.

    As one who considers himself an agnostic/athesist; it would be nice to find a church that expounds on love versus hate. I have yet to find any love on this blog, only hate.
    It would be nice that if there is a god/God out there; that he/she would preach love. It would appear to me that if such a gathering would ever take place, GOD would be there himself/herself; instead of having such human emotions as hate/bigotry rule from the pulpit. Where is such a gathering? Can a religion that has GOD as the preacher and shows love; even exist?

    At this present time, I have yet to find a God ruling from any pulpit. At this present time, humans are incapable of standing in for god.

  • Jerry
    Jan. 13, 2009 8:22 a.m.

    I am mormon and I have never felt like Huckabee owes me an apology, he never insulted me. I don't feel like insulted Romney nor our church, but I do believed that he insulted Jesus Christ and probably needs to ask Him for His forgiveness

    Not that it matters I was also rasied Baptist

  • LDSLA
    Jan. 12, 2009 6:33 p.m.

    My wife was Southern Baptist before she joined the Church. It is interesting to see a different point of view and I ask her often in a respectful manner what Baptists believe. I think some LDS members get bent out of shape when people say we are not Christian. Frankly, I think the insinuation is confusing when true Christians should believe that whether or not someone is Christian is and will be determined by God. In short, I ignore people who say such things.

  • Steve N.
    Jan. 12, 2009 4:35 p.m.

    Evangelicals have been claiming for many years that Mormons are not "Christians". I am am 63 years old and I remember as a kid of 12 being told by my neighbors that the LDS church was a Cult. They're told this by their pastors. Why? They don't want to lose their "constituents" because that amounts to losing MONEY. Money for their salaries and their expenses. Hucklebee being a Baptist, is an evangelical. He torpedoed Romney by playing the "religion card"...ie. "Hey, he's a Mormon"..he belongs to a cult. Huckelbee is a liar and a fraud. I hope the truth comes out some day and he gets booted from his Hollywood TV show.

  • Huckabee is no different
    Jan. 12, 2009 4:07 p.m.

    No different than any other career politician today. He'll say whatever he thinks is what that particular audience wants to hear at that time. Course I guess it's not exclusive to politics. My in-laws go to church, listen to the same lessons as me, and still are the biggest liars and two faced manipulators around. He's full of it, and doesn't mean a word of it. If he did, he'd have said it a long time ago, and he'd be willing to say it and defend it to his followers.

  • Anonymous
    Jan. 12, 2009 12:36 p.m.

    To Praying,

    You think you can see through Huckabee's hypocrisy, but you can't even see your way through the pages of a dictionary! Put some sunscreen on that red neck of yours and leave the intelligent conversation to those of us who can actually claim a command of the language.

  • To Beth 10:29
    Jan. 12, 2009 11:38 a.m.

    I do not understand why if Romney is so great and has the know how and answers to the nation's economic problems, then why doesn't he publish a white paper of instructions to help the nation; or is this a mormon thing of only helping when there is some thing in it for themselves.

  • Praying for Mr. Huckabee
    Jan. 12, 2009 10:50 a.m.

    Someday would someone please ask Mr. Huckabee why if says he has no issue with the Morman faith or it's members why was he the key note speaker at his faith's Salt Lake conference (several years ago)where theme of the conference was to bash the Morman faith and people? Also where does this paid preacher get off assuming he has the authority to judge whether someon is a Christian or not I thought that was the Savior's role. Mr. Huckabee you are not as slick of a talker as you think you are people see through your hypocracy!

  • Beth
    Jan. 12, 2009 10:29 a.m.

    I don't like politicians like Mike Huckabee because I think that he's a good example of what's wrong with the Republican party. The extreme religious right that has hijacked our party cares about three things: abortion, gay marriage, and whether or not the candidate is a "good christian". They gave us Bush in '04 and '00 and because of the actions of the religious right they also ended up giving us McCain, one of the most unexciting and ineffective presidential candidates in modern history.

    What about Republicans who believe in small government and limited taxation? A free market system? Responsible spending? A government that provides opportunities to succeed rather than a non-conditional handout? That's what the Repbulican Party should be about.

    Romney was so CLEARLY the guy to fix this economic mess, Obama's in way over his head. The idea of what COULD be happening right now instead of what IS makes me sick. We needed Romney so badly. I blame Huckabee for the fact that we don't have him now.

    I invite Huckabee to come out to Madison WI, we'll all through eggs at him out here, although I'll be doing it for a different reason than everyone else.

  • Aaron
    Jan. 12, 2009 8:29 a.m.

    Huckabee was shown the transcript from the New York Times before it went to print where he asked if Mormons believe that Jesus and Satan are brothers. If he really didn't want to be quoted on that, he could have stopped it. It is totally disingenuous on his part to play innocent. It was all a campaign tactic. You must be a fool to take him at his word.

  • FACTS
    Jan. 12, 2009 8:27 a.m.

    Huckabee's problem with Mitt is that Mitt ran negative ads in Iowa (based on policy) to blunt his late surge. That is where the problem started. I agree with Huckabee on that one. Mitt should have stayed positive and let the chips fall where they may.

    Huckabee had similar ads (based on policy) to run against Mitt. He didn't air them except to the press. If he had aired them there would have been no backlash in Utah because of it.

    The backlash is based on the subtle comments ("Don't Mormons believe Jesus and Satan are brothers?" or to Evangelicals "I am one of you") which were designed to peel away support from Mitt based on his faith.

    It makes us believe there is a litmus test for public service which excludes members of our faith. It also reminds us of the evangelical street preachers at General Conference who harass and annoy people who simply want to attend a religous service.

    It is unfortunate because when it comes to public policy, economic and moral, I agree with Huckabee over 90% of the time.

  • Ronnie
    Jan. 12, 2009 8:12 a.m.

    Think about it for a minute, why would Huckabee like the mormons; even the mormons don't like the mormons, but I love the mormons they make my day.

  • Robert LaChance
    Jan. 12, 2009 6:51 a.m.

    Huckabee may say what he wants. The reality is he is an anti-Mormon. The book, A Different God? Mitt Romney, the Religious Right and the Mormon Question goes into detail about Huckabee's attacks against Romney and the LDS Church.

  • Jan
    Jan. 11, 2009 11:36 p.m.

    I can't believe that the comments have gone on for this long!!!

    There are a lot of real negative comments here.

    It will be a l o n g time before we have to deal with if we will or will not vote for Huchabee for President.

    Why don't we wait and see what happens in these years? Why continue to fight this battle right now?

    I did not vote for him - he may change - some people do.. maybe he learned some lessons.. who's to say.. Why keep bashing?

    There are many problems that are here and now that need our attention - why not worry about them instead?

    Bashing is bashing - weather in person, over the phone, whatever - and in the light of church communication it is NEVER acceptable. We have been warned about this over and over by our leaders.

    We know that we are Christians - God knows that we are Christians..

    HAPPY NEW YEARS EVERYONE!!!

  • Seattleview
    Jan. 11, 2009 11:14 p.m.

    The basis for most everyones criticisum of Huckabee is that he has used religion as the reason not to vote for Romney (even though their social positions are near identical) and not necessarily Romneys political positions. That is the crux of it and it will be the same in the future. Now he wants us to think "that Mormons make the best public servents"? Get real.

    I have my own differences with Romneys political positions but I think he was a better political candidate than Huckabee.

    Our two worst presidents (Carter and Bush) have been Evengelicals. It might be helpful in getting elected but it has not helped them in leading our country.

    I am not willing to fall for Huckabee's sales pitch.

  • Re: Anonymous @ 5:51
    Jan. 11, 2009 9:51 p.m.

    The LDS definition of Christ is the Savior and Redeemer of the world, the literal Son of God in the flesh. He condescended to come to earth to save us from our sins, so that if we repent and are baptized on His name, and follow His commandments, we may somebody be able to return to Him and to the Father. How is that different from the way other "Christians" view Him?

  • kakawarazu
    Jan. 11, 2009 9:28 p.m.

    Yes, he is trying to make nice, but, of course, Mike Huckabee also knows that if he is the Republican nominee (for any office), he would STILL get the Mormon vote, as long as his opponent is a Democrat.

  • basement writ
    Jan. 11, 2009 9:02 p.m.

    The fact that LDS are not considered "Christian" by Evangelicals must be tempered by the thought, perhaps, that would LDS WANT to be considered "Christian" in light of what evangelicals believe alone? Differences of "opinion" about the Godhead are not slight, and the LDS does not/need not make any apologies for their beliefs, and would not make concessions or revisions of beliefs in order to be "accepted" by these other groups. The LDS can and does stand on its own.

    Huckabee is entitled to his beliefs. The LDS are entitled to theirs. Lets move on now, working together where mutually beneficial, and be cordial, letting God judge. The rock and foundation on which the LDS stands does not/will not change. Just move on.

  • Re: Anonymous
    Jan. 11, 2009 8:03 p.m.

    As far as I'm aware Huckabee never said that, nor have I seen a single post discussing that issue. I'm sure you'd like to stir the pot with off-topic remarks, but I doubt anyone will take the bait.

  • Anonymous
    Jan. 11, 2009 5:51 p.m.

    Everyone on here is upset because He wouldnt accept Mormons as christians. But your definition of Christ is different than the bible. So therefor he was right. MOrmons are not christian.

  • To Re: Disciple
    Jan. 11, 2009 3:46 p.m.

    You're certainly free to view Huckabee as the poster child of "respect" and "civility," but others are equally free to view Huckabee in a less-favorable light. What would be "absurd" is to not have healthy debates regarding Huckabee's, and any other politician's, integrity and motives. As citizens work to elect the future leaders of this country, that discourse will do much more long-term good than simply "coming together" around any politicians who call themselves a conservative.

  • Re: Response to "Bad Advice"
    Jan. 11, 2009 2:54 p.m.

    You're correct in pointing out that Huckabee did eventually get more delegates than Romney. What you conveniently fail to mention is that he only did so several weeks after Romney dropped out of the race because he was behind. Next time tell the whole story before chastising others for comments you feel are "inaccurate, ignorant, and based on unfounded rumors." Others might just as easily accuse you of the same.

  • Re: Observer
    Jan. 11, 2009 2:46 p.m.

    "Why fuss about what Huckabee did or didn't mean at this point? Who cares?"

    Good point. After all, it's only the leader of the free world we're talking about.

  • Re: From my experience...
    Jan. 11, 2009 2:45 p.m.

    Yes, that would explain why it's called the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints.

  • Re: Disciple
    Jan. 11, 2009 2:34 p.m.

    Finally! Someone who gets it, sees the absurdity of all of this.

    Get over it, and let's come together for the common conservative good of this country!

    If you haven't watched "Huckabee" on Fox News Channel, Sat&Sun 8pm, please tune in. I think you will be surprised and perhaps learn how to interact with people who you may not agree with. It's really something to behold, as there are not many programs like this out there.

    Huckabee, himself, has people on who he does not agree with, but he is civil, and kind, and the other person is free to state their point of view.(like Richard Dreyfuss, like Jerry Springer, like Ann Coulter, who was on last night's show)

    We need to bring this type of RESPECT back. Agree to disagree.

    What I'm reading on here is waaaay judgemental, self-righteous, and unforgiving.

    Do you think God is pleased with this? I mean, what is the point? Let's come together for the good of the conservative movement in this country. If not, we are up that creek, without a paddle...

  • From my experience...
    Jan. 11, 2009 2:23 p.m.

    Re: 10:03


    The LDS church believes in Lucifer .

  • awsomeron
    Jan. 11, 2009 1:33 p.m.

    Huck is okay, I really do not care what he thinks either way.

    Mitt is going to get the Big Call from Salt Lake. Weather or Not he picks up the phone is another matter.

    Both Salt Lake and Mitt have each others Number on their Speed Dial.

  • Re: Response to "Bad Advice"
    Jan. 11, 2009 10:03 a.m.

    The LDS church believes that Lucifer and Christ are spiritual siblings in the same sense that Adolf Hitler and Mother Theresa were spiritual siblings. That is, that God created us all, but that we make our own choices and determine our own outcome, and that original creation is oftentimes the only thing we may have in common with another individual. We do not believe that Satan and the Savior share similar traits or behaviors or anything else, for that matter, nor do we believe that God created the devil for the pure sake of creating evil in the world. Just as Hitler's mother created a life that later used his own agency and went horribly astray, Lucifer, using his agency, turned his back on all the divine truth and knowledge he was given, and became the monster we know him as today. Huckabee's comment was calculated to give the worst possible twist on the doctrine that he could give, and his apology rings false. We may accept his apology, and we may begin to forgive him for his actions, but that does not mean we will trust or support him in the future.

  • twister61
    Jan. 11, 2009 9:25 a.m.

    I agree with the writer from Dallas. I worked on the campaign here in Iowa for Mitt,and Huckabee never had a kind word to say about Mitt or the mormans. He is very dishonest and far from being a decent Baptist minister! He is a "snake in the grass"!

  • Disciple
    Jan. 11, 2009 9:16 a.m.

    In my working life I spent 40 years working in a highly technical field. None of us had the time or luxury of worrying about what our coworkers religeous beliefs were. Our main concern had to be, is this person qualified to do their job properly? I am amazed that people can argue over what others religous beliefs are. I think this puts us on the same level as those people in the mideast and around the world who have been killing each other over religion for thousands of years.

  • Anonymous
    Jan. 11, 2009 9:04 a.m.

    John,

    They do. I hear them telling about it every week in Church!

  • Lois in NC
    Jan. 11, 2009 7:38 a.m.

    I have digested every comment on this story. And some of them have summed up Huckabee's character or his anti Mormon comments very correctly. I do think he intended to portray Rommey as "not a christian" and therefore elevate himself to the evangelical community as the one christian they should trust and support, therefore creating unfavorable feelings toward Mormons in general. If he had been truely sorry for his comments to the NY times, he would have gone to Romney in person and private to apologize but he chose to go before the nation to get more attention to himself. Most people can see through that kind of tactics.

  • JanC
    Jan. 11, 2009 7:20 a.m.

    I, too was impressed with Huckabee in the beginning. As with all candidate I was interested in, I went to his website and discussion forum. My positive view of him changed quickly when I read all the vile hate-filled remarks from his followers. If he did not agree with these remarks and feelings, he could have put a stop to it. He could have changed the tone of his website, but he didn't. You know very well that the candidates monitor their websites. He knew all this hatred was going on in "his" ranks, but he did nothing to change or disagree with the comments made by his followers.

    In my opinion, he is known by his "fruits" and his associates just exactly as Obama was known by his.

    He is a charismatic, entertaining speaker, but not an honest man - just another politician.

  • John
    Jan. 11, 2009 3:06 a.m.

    Baptists and Evangelicals are dangerous cults. Mormons should pray that people trapped in these dangerous and crazy cults will have the courage to leave.

  • George
    Jan. 11, 2009 2:09 a.m.

    This man may share some of the same moral values with us, but he represents the same group that is connected behind some anti literature. Do we really want to put ourselves in the same boat with this man. He is a Southern Baptist Minister whose convention produces and sponsors literature through the Utah Missions, Inc from Marlow, OK and the ministry of Rev Walker from Dallas. Why doesn't anyone ask him why his convention financially supports these ministries or if he took a cults class in Baptist College working towards a ministry degree. These people in private and from the pulpit are not generous or charitable towards us. I went to their colleges and came back to the Church. I do not believe for one minute his comments are out of context.

  • Response to "Bad Advice"
    Jan. 11, 2009 12:51 a.m.

    Posted: >>>Hmmmmm....that "bad advice" still allowed Romney to compile more delegate votes than you gained and you kept campaigning for a month or so AFTER Romney suspended his campaign.

  • Steve Kittel
    Jan. 11, 2009 12:16 a.m.

    What do we, as Mormons, want from Evangelicals and Huck's loyal base? To be treated as Christians..treated normal...right? The comments that were said during the primaries were abhorrent, true. The twisting of the LDS church and the politicising in other denomination's churches equally bad.
    Thing is the only way we're going to get past all of that is by reconciling. And as lame as Huck was being during the primaries, I gotta say I am pleased to see he came out to SL for this purpose.
    So regardless of what anyone said, all of you posting comments that are against this reconciliation are doing nothing but further damaging the relationship when it's time to move on.
    Forgive and forget, right?

  • Observer
    Jan. 10, 2009 11:43 p.m.

    I think you've all got too much time on your hands. You've wasted a perfectly good Saturday on here ranting back and forth all day. 2012 is a long time off. Why fuss about what Huckabee did or didn't mean at this point? Who cares?

  • California
    Jan. 10, 2009 11:36 p.m.

    I recognized the unholy alliance struck between McCain and Huckabee. It was very obvious. Their reason was to get the Mormon out. Even McCains 90+ mother made a disparaging remark about Mormons on TV. If Mitt had not been a Mormon it would have been completely different, even if they didn't like him. I had read about Huckabees stance on Mormons before he ran for President. I have read a lot about Mitt Romney, his family as well as his father who was Gov.of Michigan. It is a family with high morals and family values. On top of it Mitt is very smart. He was the one that made the economy the issue during the primary. He had the better credentials for solving our nations problems. I realize that we are all different and we think different, but that is what keeps our nation in balance.

  • Can we get a transcript....
    Jan. 10, 2009 11:05 p.m.

    If Huckabee wants to prove his statement that he has never said anything bad about the Mormons, please get us a copy of the transcripts from the SBC (Southern Baptist Convention's) meeting they held in Salt Lake City (that he attended as a speaker) and we shall see.

    Even if he did not state anything, I am willing to bet he supported and agreed with all other speakers. When he can produce that, I will believe him.

  • to shelby
    Jan. 10, 2009 9:53 p.m.

    Big deal! One vote

  • Anonymous
    Jan. 10, 2009 9:20 p.m.

    One impressive quality that Obama has is that he doesn't go down to the level of some of the politicians..not to say that I am not very very worried about his philosophies and politics. Huck went way down there...and so did McCain...seems that Mitt was always on the defensive.

  • Polly A
    Jan. 10, 2009 9:07 p.m.

    Huckabee asked one question which was taken out of context from a long interview, but he has never said a disparaging word about Mormonism. That's the facts.

    He did, however, criticize Romney's policies, motives and campaign tactics.

  • Missionary Jim
    Jan. 10, 2009 8:57 p.m.

    Well, can we send the missionaries over to your home Mr. Huckeebee? You would make a great Mormon.

  • Shelby
    Jan. 10, 2009 7:19 p.m.

    correction:

    And if Romney runs in 2012--he'll have my vote just as he did in LAST year's primary.

  • Texas Mom
    Jan. 10, 2009 6:49 p.m.

    I worked on Mitt's campaign here in the Dallas area (baptist bible belt country). I also saw first hand how unchristian Huckabee is. I was disapointed at the so called minister and at the baptist community. I learned very quickly about their plan from some baptist friends and a baptist minister. They only wanted him to lose becasue he was a Mormon even though he was and will always be more qualified that Huckabee. How sad. I believe Huckabee to be a very dishonest person.

  • Snake Oil Salesman
    Jan. 10, 2009 5:36 p.m.

    *Battle of Banjo's playing in background* "Times are tough. My customers are leaving in droves. What's a pastor to do without a flock of sheeple. I got to stoke the fire by picking on the 'mormon's'. I'll just make good later... "God Maker's" is on. Popcorn is hot and ready, and for $24.99 you too can visit and take part in our 'anointing'! Feel free to call our 'Bill Keller' prayer line and we'll save your soul! $4.99 per minute...goes to a good cause though, (Jag needs a new transmission)...you have my good 'word'.

  • Dear Huck4Life
    Jan. 10, 2009 5:38 p.m.

    While I agree that Mormons are human and sometimes don't represent their religion as well as they should, you're mistaken in assuming that everyone who has posted here expressing opposition to Huckabee is Mormon. Additionally, why is it that one can't express their opposition toward a person or cause without being accused of hatred?

    I accept Huckabee's apology, however I would NEVER vote for him and have a right to exercise a healthy skepticism of his motives. I believe, like so many others on this board, that his character lacks many virtues, and I take exception to the charge that this amounts to hatred. On the contrary, given the opportunity to meet I'm sure I would find him a warm and friendly, likeable guy.

    Like so many on this board, my opinion of Huckabee isn't based soley on his Mormon comments but certainly enforced by them. Even in putting his comments aside, which I must do in accepting his apology, his record and actions in other matters would never earn my confidence or vote.

  • Re: Huck4Life
    Jan. 10, 2009 5:07 p.m.

    One can accept an apology graciously and still not believe it was honestly offered . . especially when it was followed by later events in following primary states which belied its honesty.

    Huck needs to actually stop making excuses for himself and blaming Romney for whatever . . I don't care whether the insult was only 11 words or even just 1 . . . he has no humility or honesty in all this political BS until he takes responsibility for himself, regardless of how nice of a person he may be otherwise.

  • dc
    Jan. 10, 2009 4:53 p.m.

    Patrick posted: "I love the Mormons, but I think it's so funny that you proselytize other Christians but feel persecuted when they don't accept you as fully Christian. Kind of a double standard."

    Please take a few minutes to deal with the beam in your eye before commenting on the mote you see in ours . . . your sentence above reflects the true "double standard"

    LDS have no problem with evangelical proselyting as you suggest evangelicals do of LDS (and I continue to wonder at some important motivational reasons), the LDS perspective is that we allow Christians to believe they are Christians following Jesus of Nazareth. So instead of acknowleding such a double standard, they insult LDS members who live their lives as Christ asked of us.

    The LDS issue with other Christian Churches isn't whether their members are "fully Christian", but rather if they have had an opportunity to partake of ordinances seen as fully valid by authority of Christ. Our teaching is that if evangelicals are honestly living as Christians, they will have an opportunity for such ordinances later, even if need be after death. Is the beam in the eye, ear, and heart?

  • To david Anderson
    Jan. 10, 2009 4:44 p.m.

    There aint nutting good about huckabee.

  • Re: image problem
    Jan. 10, 2009 3:51 p.m.

    "We have a public image problem that stems in part from polygamy. Until the Church strongly addresses that issue it will be that way."

    They did...119 years ago.

  • Re: Huck4Life
    Jan. 10, 2009 3:48 p.m.

    The issue, for many, is that Huckabee seems to be incredibly duplicitous by using anti-Mormon rhetoric during the primaries, then apologizing afterward as if it were some big misunderstanding. It comes across like the shady lawyer who makes an inflammatory statement in court to bias the jury. He doesn't mind when the judge asks that the comment be stricken from the record because the damage is already done. Obviously no one on this comment board (Mormon or non-Mormon) is perfect, but many are angered by what appears to many to have been a very calculating comment during a pivotal part of the primaries.

  • Re: Maxine
    Jan. 10, 2009 3:31 p.m.

    The only reason Huckabee's religion is noteworthy is because it undermines the innocence of his comment, given that he recycled the same anti-Mormon rhetoric that has been used ad nauseam by some other Southern Baptists. On the other hand, Jimmy Carter is a great example of a Southern Baptist who didn't make inflammatory statements like Gov. Huckabee. I think Mormons are generally very open about sincere questions regarding their faith. The issue is not someone asking questions regarding the Mormon faith, the issue is asking loaded questions regarding the Mormon faith for political gain.

  • Huck4Life
    Jan. 10, 2009 3:24 p.m.

    If you want to give a good impression of the Mormon faith, you are not representing it very well with your hatred and unforgiving nature towards Governor Huckabee. While there isn't a perfect one among us, Governor Huckabee has apologized for the ONE comment he made that was taken out of context and caused Mormons to become offended. He apologized to Romney in person and publically. What more do you want from him? He has defended Mormons nationally on his tv show recently with regards to prop 8. Governor Huckabee is a good man, brilliant, and actually concerned with Americans not just in it for his ego, like most. Please realize you do your religion more harm than The Governor ever could by showing this hateful side of the Mormon faith!

  • CaliMexifornia LDS-er
    Jan. 10, 2009 3:23 p.m.

    Here in Mexifornia, we know about Double Speak...our politicians wrote the book! Mike Huckabee seems to have that talent himself, and talk about changing one's image during the Presidential election! Huckabee was a pitbull toward his Republican opponents, especially toward Romney (and went after his jugular). You will receive no sympathy from me for being "misunderstood", Huckster...you're a bigot!

    We experienced a litany of hate-speech during the Prop 8 push, especially toward the LDS Church. The Evangelicals and other Christian churches were very appreciative of the LDS cash flow toward the cause, but the Evy's made it clear that they didn't believe the LDS Church was "Christian" (Dr. James Dobson, for one).

    Mike Huckabee hasn't changed his stance toward the Church either, but loves the millions of dollars attributed to the family values cause. "So we'll take the money, but you still can't join the club!" is what they are projecting. Who wants to be a member of a "club" that expends significant energies denouncing another religion?

    Note: From a state which promotes TOLERANCE as a mantra, California's government didn't extended any to the LDS Church during the elections or Prop 8 campaigns. Another example of our bankrupt state's implosion!

  • Re: myth buster
    Jan. 10, 2009 3:18 p.m.

    This is ironic to have to correct the "myth buster." Romney never claimed Huckabee or Rep. Paul divorced their wives, nor did he say he was the only candidate still married to his first wife.

    In regards to speculating about Romney making an "idol of money and power," and being a "liar," "scumbag," and "not even a true Mormon," you are free to think what you want, but haven't presented any reasons for your conclusions.

    As far as Romney's background, I didn't know Romney's choice of school or his father had disqualified him from being president. Clearly it shouldn't qualify someone to president, but your suggestion that Romney is somehow disqualified on that basis is just as absurd.

    If you think that Hucks, Palin, or Jindal are best qualified for the job, that's your prerogative, but so far it sounds like you're basing your decision more on personality than ability.

  • Maxine
    Jan. 10, 2009 3:09 p.m.

    I really do not understand why so many on this blog post would be offended by someone asking about their belief.

    I have been visited by those of the Morman faith who have encouraged me to ask questions about their faith. I do not get offended when they try to prove that I am wrong for being a member of Southern Baptist, one reason being is that this denomination is not my main source of faith.

    I believe Gov. Huckabee has been unjustly criticized not because of his questions, but because he is a Southern Baptist.

  • Re: David Anderson
    Jan. 10, 2009 3:00 p.m.

    It is precisely because the Protestant population is so large that Huckabee's comments were so irresponsible and damaging to Romney's campaign. I agree it wasn't the only reason Romney failed to win the nomination, but the fact that Huckabee spends "very little time" thinking about Mormons misses the point: he cares a great deal about the Protestant vote and making sure Romney doesn't get it.

  • re: Image Problem
    Jan. 10, 2009 2:40 p.m.

    You brought up some good points, but I sincerely disagree with the point that the church's image problem stems from polygamy. That was over 100 years ago and people need to get past it.

    I think the church's greatest image problem comes from misinformation. Some of it is from ignorance, some from former/Anti Mormons, and some from other churches.

    For some reason, most non-Mormons are afraid to ask their Mormon friends questions (perhaps because we are over-zealous in our response) and find their information from outside sources.

    My policy has always been to quickly and accurately answer the question and leave it at that. You'd be surprised how much more interested people are when you do that. Someone's simple question does not need to be answered with all 7 discussion right on the spot.

    As for Huckabee, I like him and I'm not offended by him at all. However, I don't think he will win the nomination in 2012 because he's no match for Obama. We need someone with a lot more star power, unfortunately, to beat a historic incumbent next time.

  • Huck and LDS
    Jan. 10, 2009 2:37 p.m.

    I see myriad reasons to dislike Huckabee as a candidate that have nothing to do with his religion, or ours. I really don't care about his LDS outreach, because it's irrelevant to me. I dislike him as a candidate because of his policies, his personal nastiness - his quick wit is not tempered by empathy - and his class-wedge populism.

    One candidate is not worth driving a political wedge between natural allies. There are many candidates who can attract the same social conservative demographic, without the burden of Huckabee's baggage.

    He's toxic waste. Leave him to his talk show, where his talents - and he has talents - are marketable. But I want nothing to do with him running entity I live in - federal, state, local. 18 months of his endless primary was enough.

  • Listening in from New Mexico
    Jan. 10, 2009 2:37 p.m.

    I agree with everyone who spoke up to tell Mr. Huckabee that we can see right through his "politicking" attitude. And being two faced. It's pretty fake. And I say to him, "Shame on you!"

    Our nation is in serious need of good leaders who are willing to see things as they really are and to have the ability to help our nation understand what we can do as a people in order for our country to be truly strong. That has been a problem with many who have run for office for years now. They claim to want the best for our nation - when the reality is that all they want is to be popular and to control more than they are able to handle. Mud slinging is a trait of those who are not able to truly handle power and authority.

    We need leaders who have experience in truly leading, based on their qualifications of past experience and not other things which mimic true leadership.

    God Bless America!

  • myth buster
    Jan. 10, 2009 2:37 p.m.

    Romney slandered both Mike Huckabee and Ron Paul by claiming they divorced their wives when they had not. "I am the only candidate still married to his first wife." Besides, Romney seems to have made an idol of money and power. He's a liar and a scumbag, not even a true Mormon. Romney is disgusting.

    Gov. Huckabee at least has the humility to treat the voters as his bosses, which they are. He, Sarah Palin and Bobby Jindal all come from us. They are hard working, self-made people who have proven themselves to be leaders who come through in the clutch. Mitt Romney comes to us, and treats the common people like they are beneath him. In this country, we believe the person best qualified for the job should get the job, regardless of who his/her father was or where he/she went to college.

  • David Anderson
    Jan. 10, 2009 1:41 p.m.

    Mormons constitute less than 5% of the population of this country, and Protestants more than 50%. Mormons only defeat themselves by focusing on whether or not Huckabee secretly "hates" Mormons. The truth is that they are of minor significance to him, and he spends very little time thinking about them. Romney did not lose the nomination because Huckabee turned the Protestants against him. I was a Protestant who was FOR Romney until I saw the campaign unfold. I am not a southern baptist or evangelical Christian, but I saw that Romney was disingenuous and unprincipled, and also saw that Huckabee has some excellent ideas (some of which have been adopted by Obama). No one is now better positioned to defend the social interests of the Mormons than Huckabee. Certainly Romney would only be wasting his time (and money) to run again in 2012.

    I still only care about a man's religion to the extent that it makes him more fit to help this country return to the values on which it was founded, and if the Mormons will assume the same attitude, all will be well.

  • BJ
    Jan. 10, 2009 1:17 p.m.

    I would appreciate hearing a good journalistic research on Huckabee comments. He has nothing to lose from talking to Mormons now. What about the rest of the country. He lacks guts as well as fairness.

  • elizabeth
    Jan. 10, 2009 1:15 p.m.

    If you want to really get back at Mr. Huckabee then have all of your family and friends pray for him. Pray that he is driving down a dark lonely highway, he is miles from nowhere and his car breaks down. Then pray that after a long wait a car comes along with two Mormon missionaries going home. I would like to hear that conversation. Okay?

  • not a fan
    Jan. 10, 2009 1:12 p.m.

    Huckabee spouts the rhetoric. The best he can say is that Mormons are good community helpers? Utah is a beautiful state? Read the words, he has said nothing of substance. It is a lie that he has any admiration for Mormons, his view is that we are all deceived by the devil.

    My reaction to his pandering statements/lies? Bull-loney!

  • Debate shows prejudice
    Jan. 10, 2009 1:12 p.m.

    The Deseret News and Doug Wright should set the record straight on Mike Huckabee and his documented prejudice against Mormons. A starting point would be to review the GOP debate in which Mike was asked whether he could vote for a Mormon for president. He stuttered and stammered and then said, "No."

    Sadly, seminary programs and ministries have misled Mr. Huckabee and other evangelicals with their poorly-researched information about Mormonism. Scholarly Biblical research shows that Mormons actually have substantive research to back up doctrines departing from those originated at the Council at Nicaea. At this convention of Bishops which Constantine gathered, founding Judeo-Christian doctrines were changed and reconciled with contemporary philosophers. Mormons believe those lost and founding principles have been restored and fulfilled.

    Cherilyn Bacon Eagar

  • David Anderson
    Jan. 10, 2009 1:02 p.m.

    It is to the credit of the faith of those Mormons that many look for the good in Huckabee. Others, who flaunt their paranoia by insisting that they "know" what he really means when he says something else, only do a disservice to themselves and to Mormonism. They fool no one, and only lower the esteem of other Christians for Mormons. Remember, Catholics and Protestants killed each other for a century after Martin Luther was excommunicated, but have gradually come to terms with each other because more unites them than divides them. Let us hope this will also happen with the Mormons, but irrational and undeserved hostility against a southern Baptist running for President will not get the job done. On the contrary, he is probably their best hope.

  • Hardly Wright
    Jan. 10, 2009 12:55 p.m.

    On his campaign trail, the pious Gov. Huckabee merely asked a simple question: "Would you vote for a president who belives Satan is Jesus' brother?" His cleverly crafted one-liner created exactly what he intended: alarm over the "weird beliefs" of his LDS contender.

    While Huckabee praises the absence of a religious test in US politics, he deceitfully employed one of his own againt Mit Romney.

  • Republican Activist
    Jan. 10, 2009 12:50 p.m.

    I campaigned for Romney in Iowa, Nevada, Idaho, and Florida. The #1 problem with people voting for him was his faith. Whether or not Huckabee is sincere, he deliberately chose to keep stoking the bigotry that exists within the radical "Christian" world, and McCain loved it.

    Huckabee and all of his bigoted supporters will not find any friends among real Conservatives in 2012. Many people are disgusted at what happened in the Primary.

  • Anonymous
    Jan. 10, 2009 12:45 p.m.

    I remember Huckabee responding to a question about Mormons: "Aren't they the ones who believe that Sataan is the brother of Jesus?" I thought at the time: "And art thou a Minister in Isreal and knowest not these things?" If more of these commercial ministers would read the scriptures and earnestly pray, instead of blindly following their creeds, they would know such things!

  • Anonymous
    Jan. 10, 2009 12:44 p.m.

    I remember Huckabee responding to the a question about Mormons: "Aren't they the ones who believe that Sataan is the brother of Jesus?" I thought at the time: "And art thou a Minister in Isreal and knowest not these things?" If more of these commercial ministers would read the scriptures and earnestly pray, instead of blindly following their creeds, they would know such things!

  • Texasconserv
    Jan. 10, 2009 12:36 p.m.

    During the early primary debates Huckabee was only asked the religious questions. He found overwhelming support for his great answers. People were craving a politican who was proud to be Christian and stood up against secular society. Thus Huckabee used the words Christian Leader in his tv ads. However, after Iowa Huckabee found that those words boxed him in and he needed to appeal to more voters in NH and MI.

    As to the apology that LDS church members are still seeking, Huckabee apologized right away to Romney regarding the NYT article. He also, despite southern baptist doctrinal differences, never said that LDS were not Christian. He gave outward support to the LDS church for their great effort in passing Prop 8. Huckabee has publicly endorsed other LDS politicians.

    In reading Huckabee's book, I can see why there was a rift between Huckabee and Romney. Huckabee did not find Romney to be a true social conservative, thought Mitt was disengenuous. Romney also went out of his way to treat Huckabee like a tier two candidate based on financial and working class status. Similarly how Palin was treated by Washington elites.

    LDS members need to forgive and forget.

  • Iowa Republican
    Jan. 10, 2009 12:28 p.m.

    The Huckster is trying to rejuvenate his image so he can run in 4 years. Don't believe it. During the Iowa Primary his campaign would not do anything overtly anti-Mormon, but surrogate groups would do the dirty work of making the anti-Mitt anti-Mormon calls so Huck would have deniability. He ran the dirtiest campaign I've seen in a while at the same time attacking Mitt for running a dirty campaign for comparing records. The Huckster hated Mitt for being Mormon and for being rich and still does! He will use any tactic to tear down any Republican who he thinks will stand between him and the White House.

  • Mitt Romney said...
    Jan. 10, 2009 12:18 p.m.

    I remember one time when Mitt Romney said on that one show where he thought that Christians were meanies. See I can do it too. Say things that may or probably aren't true and not substantiate them, but say that they are fact. I'm not saying that you even knowingly are doing it, but do the research for yourself. Don't trust blogs that say that Governor Huckabee said all these bad things. Tell me and show me what he said and when, then I can take you seriously.

  • Noelie
    Jan. 10, 2009 12:08 p.m.

    that's fine Mr Huckabee. Excuse me if I still won't vote for you in a million years. It's certainly telling that you accuse Mitt Romney of being two-faced, when YOU were the one to run blasting our religion, and now try to kiss up to us after.

    Give me a break.

  • Tyler
    Jan. 10, 2009 12:04 p.m.

    I strongly second the comment on the first page from the person who had Huckabee as a governor, who said "What he primarily seeks is celebrity status." When Mitt Romney stepped aside for the good of the country to throw his support behind McCain, because he could do the math (Huckabee continued his run beyond the point of ridiculous because he "didn't major in math"), it showed me that Romney was all about country first. I would support Mitt Romney for President in 2012 in a heartbeat. Huckabee? He belongs right where he is, soaking up the limelight.

  • unkind words
    Jan. 10, 2009 12:02 p.m.

    Personally, I consider being called a bunch of egg and vegetable throwers "unkind".

    I'm hurt all over again.

  • 2012?
    Jan. 10, 2009 12:00 p.m.

    Huckabee will not get very far. Only a very devout group of fundees will support him in 2012.

  • Roger Waters
    Jan. 10, 2009 11:48 a.m.

    Huckabee cost Romney the nomination in my opinion. He stayed in the race when it was obvious he couldnt win just to double team along with that ghastly McCain guy to stomp out Romney.

    A vote for Huckabee was a vote for McCain which ultimately meant a vote for a democrat president and this jerk knew it. His hatred for Romney was obvious. Even his jerk campaign manager, that jerk Ed Rollins who made a fool out of himself running the Ross Perot campaign said he wanted to "knock Romney's teeth in".

    Hey Huckabee, give it up. Everybody, not just mormon, but everybody except the dumbest of the evangelicals (bottom 20%) think of you as a lying tool and you arent going anywhere in 2012. I would vote for Obama before you and I have never voted for a democrat in my life.

  • Bad Advice?
    Jan. 10, 2009 11:33 a.m.

    Hey Huck,

    you say that Romney was surrounded by those who gave him bad advice.

    Hmmmmm....that "bad advice" still allowed Romney to compile more delegate votes than you gained and you kept campaigning for a month or so AFTER Romney suspended his campaign.

    Some bad advice.

    Are you sure there's not just a tad bit of jealousy in your words?

  • somebody
    Jan. 10, 2009 11:30 a.m.

    The hate in your hearts spews forth in your ugly words.

    "Be ye imitators of Christ"? Me thinks not.

  • Disco Vega
    Jan. 10, 2009 11:27 a.m.

    What a loser...I've never seen someone talk out of both sides of their mouth so much in my life. One you are proven to a liar, fearmonger and unchristian by the comments made...you will never, never, never be able to over it. You have been cast in stone Huckboy!

  • For twister61
    Jan. 10, 2009 11:28 a.m.

    Couldn't agree with you more!

    There's NO way that Huckabee, who graduated from a Christian seminary and would have NO DOUBT been exposed to basic LDS doctrines as well as doctrines from other major Christian and non-Christian religions, did not know that Latter-day Saints believe that Jesus Christ and Lucifer are spiritual brothers. He threw that bomb in the interview to shock mainstream Christians into hysteria. Plus, not too many years ago he was one of the headline speakers in the huge Baptist/anti-Mormon crusade in Salt Lake.

    Mike Huckabee currently friendly to Latter-day Saints?

    Not hardly....

  • CocoMo
    Jan. 10, 2009 11:22 a.m.

    To: Typical Politician

    The reason you don't recall them is because they weren't reported. The media likes to start a fight and keep it going to have something to report about. It makes a good story. Those of us who have followed Huckabee have heard it all along. He hasn't shifted his thoughts on Mormons at all. It's just that this reporter had the good sense to actually report it.

    If you truly listen to Huckabee himself and don't listen to the biased vial and anger that is spewed on message boards or the misinformation that is "reported" or more than likely "opinionized" in today's media, you will find a man who is respectful of all human beings and appreciates the value of each individual. You will also find someone whose family values and policies line up very solidly with those of the Mormon faith.

    Filter what you read and hear and search for the truth. You won't find it in today's media. Form your opinions by going directly to the source - watch his show, read his books, check out u-tubes, most of all, listen to what he is actually saying.

  • rick
    Jan. 10, 2009 11:13 a.m.

    Even Ron Paul, when commenting on the huckster gave the following Sinclair Lewis Quote:
    "When fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in a flag and carrying a cross". The duped evangelicals supporting huckleberry were a discredit to Christianity as a whole.

  • twister61
    Jan. 10, 2009 11:03 a.m.

    Trust me folks,Huckabee is as phony and untrustful as he sounds. Living here in Iowa, he was here a few weeks ago on his book tour,slamming Mitt. He does not like Mitt or the Morman faith at all. Please,we must stop him in 2012,because if there is any inkling that Mitt will run as President again,Huckabee will run too,just to stop and badmouth Mitt.All I can say is Mitt 2012!

  • Rick
    Jan. 10, 2009 10:57 a.m.

    Huckabee reminds me of my son's pet snake. It was nice and kind (we thought) until it bit him. Thereafter, we never trusted it.

    Huckabee is a serious anti-Mormon bigot. He's not changing, any more than Himler who told the Jews to get ready to take a shower, immediately before ushering them into the gas chambers.

    Obama's my man, any day, over Huckabee.

  • Free agency
    Jan. 10, 2009 10:52 a.m.

    The Mormon Church is not a cult. You can do what you choose to do. You are NOT forced to do anything. If you don't want to go to church, don't go, if you don't want to follow the Prophet's council, don't, if you don't want to keep the word of wisdom, don't. But at the same time we know there are blessings from living honestly. If you want those blessings, than do the things you have been counciled to do. You are not asked to do one thing that will hurt you.You are only asked to do things that will protect you if you choose. The laws of the land have been set up to protects us, if you break those laws you or someone else suffers the consequences. No one makes you do anything. If you have guilt, it is your own, your going against yourself. No one makes you do anything. It is free agency to choose that works for all of us and we do not believe that just because you are not a Mormon that you are damned. We are all children of God. We all have a purpose here, be your best self everyday.

  • image problem
    Jan. 10, 2009 10:50 a.m.

    I am a Mormon and I even wonder about Mormons. Evangelicals believe they are the only true Christians. Mormons believe they are the only true church. So what's the difference? Both Mitt Romney and Mike Huckabee would make great presidents. Romney was a recent convert to some conservative issues, but that's OK, he's seen the light. Huckabee's tax plan would have saved the American economy and free market system. I hope we can make it to the next election. But Romney will find it hard to get elected because he is a Mormon. It used to be that way for Catholics, too. Mormons need to get over themselves and realize that a lot of people don't like Mormons. We have a public image problem that stems in part from polygamy. Until the Church strongly addresses that issue it will be that way.

  • Rush
    Jan. 10, 2009 10:49 a.m.

    I challenge any person on this blog to provide proof that Huck was "the KEYNOTE speaker" at the Southern Baptist Convention in 1998. The source must be legitimate, not a blog or someone quoting a blog.

    Go to arkansasonline.com
    Then click on news
    then 1998
    Then jun
    then 08
    then huckabee-us-gave-religion

    This is an article that was written after Huckabee's speech, summarizing it, and written before the convention actually started.

    Huckabee was not the "keynote speaker," and in fact did not say anything about mormons in his speech, read the article.

    This keynote speaker fallacy is a smear tactic to justify your irrational and insipid hate for Governor Huckabee.

  • His
    Jan. 10, 2009 10:36 a.m.

    Once upon a time.....

    came along a leader, who the people recognized as REAL.....

    it was Governor Mike Huckabee.

    And those who could not see it, attacked him.

    Hmmmm....reminds me of a story in the Bible.

  • Korihor
    Jan. 10, 2009 10:32 a.m.

    Huck set up his presidential run under the terms, "Christian Leader". Then after setting the table he tried to deny the rest of his campaign that the table wasn't his. He is a populist, and borderline 'Gubmint Cheese' socialist. Even Palin toes that line politically, not sure if it was cowtowing to 'handlers', but it appears true "Get government out of my face, car, my bedroom, my livingroom, my business, church etc. and let me lead my life" classical liberalism / modern conservatism is to be eradicated. Conservatives truly had no champion in this Presidential fight. Libertarianism is even hijacked by 'troofers' and fools. Tragic that even RON PAUL (online vote = %1000) was looking good.Isolationist who would have us killed in this day and age. Romney was an attempted viable option but even then he is a 'politician first' and 'conservative second'...as are all the 'conservative' politicians. The system will protect itself and will not be changed from within. The system is 'Government will protect you...even from yourself'. Better "weck up to thees!" and get ready. The only 'change' the system will have is more corrupt laws and regulations to enslave.

  • Lance
    Jan. 10, 2009 10:21 a.m.

    There was a time when Huckabee was my favorite candidate in the primaries. But I agree with others who have said he's now pandering. I like a lot of his views, but I don't trust him. The comments from Huckabee: Mormo-phobe were spont-on in my estimation.

  • Landon
    Jan. 10, 2009 10:13 a.m.

    Huckabee is a noble man that speaks from the heart. I admire his honesty and love for people. I hope he runs again.

  • steve
    Jan. 10, 2009 10:07 a.m.

    Eggs and rotten vegetables? One assumes that it would be Mormons who were offended by what he is reported to have said. Now he says that Mormons are expected to throw eggs and rotten vegetables? Maybe that's what people of principle do where he comes from, but it never occured to me.

  • Re: Anon 9:02am
    Jan. 10, 2009 10:02 a.m.

    "All religions are cults."

    Not so, and here's why the word cult is so offensive to our people. The difference is that a cult follows a leader rather than God. People who say the Mormons worship Joseph Smith instead of God have never attended a Mormon service.

    You're right, the LDS church claims to be the only one with all of the truths. That doesn't mean other churches don't have truth. But truth is truth. I know today it's all about relativism, but truth is what it is, not the "flavor of the day" based on justifying what someone feels like doing.

    As far as those silly books that people made up, I would recommend a quick review of the sacrifices made to preserve the Bible, Book of Mormon, etc. People died to bring these books forward. Who were the real oppressors? Read the books with an open mind.

    It's easy to stereotype all religious people as simple and blinded. Another lie. I have degrees from 3 top schools, have lived all over the world and have pretty much seen it all. I have found the truth. I wish you the best in life.

  • Sharon
    Jan. 10, 2009 9:57 a.m.

    The contempt Huck and many other Southern Baptist ministers have for Mormons can't be "spun" or blamed on Mitt Romney. They believe in the mythical God of the Nicean Council--a definition negotiated between political factions. We believe in the resurrected Jesus Christ--the Christ of which the Bible testifies--the Son of the Father, in whose image we were created. That is a HUGE difference.The strength of our beliefs has caused these ministers to lose (to us) some of the best in their congregations. To stem the loss, they "spin" the definition of Christianity to include them and exclude us. The Austin TX newspaper front page headlines, "Baptists War on Mormons,"caught the real spirit of their position on Mormons. As Mormons, though, we will continue to "turn the other cheek." and let God be their judge.

    However, these folks are happy to use our time, our talent, and whatever we may have to achieve their goals--but they will continue to demonize us to keep their flock from joining us.

    Sorry Huck! We won't return the attack, but we've got your number.

    Another Texas Mormon
































  • nrobyar
    Jan. 10, 2009 9:53 a.m.

    Reading these comments I have to wonder if folks are really concerned with Governor Huckabee' views or with their own agenda's (maybe fearful of another Huckabee run). Anyone who has done ANY research knows Gov. Huckabee personally and publically apologized for the ONE question he asked the reporter about whether Mormons believed Satan and Jesus are brothers. (which is true, by the way). He has gone out of his way to defend the Mormons in the prop 8 controversy. Why can't you get it into you heads that it was Romney the man and not his religion that was the problem The governor has said many times the #1 thing people want in a candidate is authenticity. He didn't believe Romney had it and neither did the public. That's why all his millions couldnt get Mitt the nomination. I read some here say Huckabee is responsible for Mitt not winning. Do you REALLY believe Huckabee had less of a right to run because he had less money? ROMNEY is the reason ROMNEY lost, not Governor Huckabee.

  • mary
    Jan. 10, 2009 9:51 a.m.

    Not everyone believes in the same JESUS. There are many variations of JESUS. But one thing we all agree on is that he must have been a great man.

  • no fan
    Jan. 10, 2009 9:12 a.m.

    Go to google and type in, Huckabee keynote speaker at the baptist convention in Utah. Again he has lied to the people of Utah. He says what whatever is needed to say to push his agenda. Trust me he needs something from the Mormon's or else we'd still be doomed to hell in his openion.

  • Anonymous
    Jan. 10, 2009 9:02 a.m.

    Re: Barbara P.
    All religions are cults. They all think they are the 'ONLY' truth out there and everyone else is going to hell. Who's wrong if everyone is right? Um, I find NO substance to any. Although I believe in god but not the silly books people make up about religion.

  • C. Hill
    Jan. 10, 2009 8:42 a.m.

    As I recall, Huckabee simply stated one of the Mormon doctrinal positions about who Jesus is. He even stated it as an 'I think so' which was later confirmed. Huckabee is a social and fiscal conservative that believes in the traditional Judeo-Christian ethic. He, like Baptists, believes the Bible to be the only divinely inspired book. If you don't like these facts...that's OK. Romney has a liberal track record, that is a historical fact. If he's changed, that is legitimate as well. People with strongly held religious beliefs tend to draw criticism from those of like minded positions that are in disagreement. That's a simple fact of life. Huckabee deserves fair treatment, even by the LDS. Huckabee gave Romney a fair assessment. Enough said.

  • Observer
    Jan. 10, 2009 8:40 a.m.

    I am amused at the hurt feelings Huckabee seems to have caused here, as well as the recent anger by some Mormons at Focus on the Family's decision not to run Glen Beck interviews because his theology is too Mormon.

    Did anyone here really think that this fairly recent confederate consortium of expediency between historical religious adversaries, brought together by a shared fear of gays over Prop 8 in California, would overcome deep doctrinal differences that have been the source not only of shared prejudices against gays but prolonged rejection of one another?

    Is the Mormon psyche so emotionally needy for acceptance from outsiders that they care what a Baptist minister thinks of them, enough so to write ugly things here about a man they find ugly?

    The lack of charity in all this is stunning, not only towards gays in denying them rights, but in the hypocrisy of niceness within the consortium that beguiles how they really feel about one another when no common foe threatens.

    Absent a common enemy, this conservative, confederate consortium will surely return to their rejection of one another--either as an otherwise polite religious cult or respected professors of abominable creeds.

    Wake up!

  • IDEA GUY
    Jan. 10, 2009 8:35 a.m.

    Maybe he can get another mob together next election that will be more successful at actually convicting polygamists while a mormon is running.

  • Heather
    Jan. 10, 2009 8:19 a.m.

    That is one thing that I appreciate about the LDS church: never bashing another church. Instead they say, "Here is what we have, what we believe." Then people can choose it if they want it. Other churches apparently feel that they must degrade (frequently incorrectly) the Mormon church before they can sway people's opinions to join their church.

  • Judge Deborah
    Jan. 10, 2009 8:08 a.m.

    Huckabee never sent leather office chairs to GOP leaders to try to buy the presidency!

  • Anonymous
    Jan. 10, 2009 7:27 a.m.

    Re. 4:34. Since you understand ancient languages so well, you will know that the Hebrew word Elohim (used in Genesis 1:1)is a plural.

  • Sally Jo
    Jan. 10, 2009 7:24 a.m.

    What a bad representation of those who call themselves Christians whatever your particular faith is. Christian means "Christ like". Reread the New Testament if you have forgotten. Only a very few comments on here sounds "Christ like". Whatever your faith is, ask the question "Would anyone on here be drawn to my faith by my actions?" Do you respond like this out in the public or is it just behind closed doors on the Internet? Well, God is all knowing, the one who will eventually judge all mankind. If we have this personal relationship with him, what are we doing to please him?

  • Anonymous
    Jan. 10, 2009 5:42 a.m.

    Huckster Huckabee is a work again, but this time it's so he can sell his book.

  • Barbara P.
    Jan. 10, 2009 1:56 a.m.

    Mike Huckabee and every other Evangelical on the planet regard Mormonism as a cult, and the members as non Christians. They regard themselves as the only 'true' Christians. But where is their Christianity when it comes to the things they say about Mormons.
    And to all the Mormons who made comments here today, where is your Christianity? I find some of your remarks to be decidedly non-Christian. This is not the way to win friends and influence people.
    We need to stay rational and level headed in this discussion. Hate has no part in it or we're all sunk.

  • Rush
    Jan. 10, 2009 1:45 a.m.

    Mr. Firth.

    Huckabee spoke at the preliminary pastors conference before the actual SBC convention, he was not, I repeat, was not the keynote speaker. This is a claim that is intentionally misleading. If you take a minscule amount of time, you can find a summary of his remarks in a google search from an Arkansas newspaper (Huckabee speaks to SBC). If Mr. Huckabee had said anything remotely anti-mormon, it certainly would have made the paper in democratic Arkansas.

    Mr. Huckabee steadfastly defended Romney's right to run.

    Pro-life.
    Pro defending traditional marriage
    Pro smaller, less intrusive Government
    Pro fairer, flatter tax system
    Pro democracy
    Pro strong national defense
    Pro 2nd amendment
    Pro protecting our borders.
    10 plus years of governing a predominately democratic state, very effectively, I might add.

    If you are conservative, what is not to like?
    What, is he to nice to those he disagrees with?

    I am sorry, I just don't understand this visceral hate that Mormons have toward Gov. Huckabee.

  • Anita Bonghit
    Jan. 10, 2009 1:42 a.m.

    Evangelical "Born-Again" Christians worship a "different" Jesus. That's why I'll never be an Evangelical "Born-Again" Christian.

  • Mr. Firth
    Jan. 10, 2009 12:29 a.m.

    Perhaps some Salt Lake City residents remember a contingent of Baptists coming to Utah to "save" the Mormons from eternal damnation a few years ago. During this Baptist convention, many partial-truths to outright lies where preached from the pulpit by the keynote speaker----Mr. Huckabee. I found it disingenuous and insulting when Mr. Hukabee cunningly stated during his campaign, "Don't Mormons believe Satan and Jesus are brothers?" He knew the controversy the statement would bring-especially among the conservative right. And acting like he doesn't know the anti-Mormon talking points.....he wrote the book.

  • Mike M.
    Jan. 10, 2009 12:27 a.m.

    This whole issue is so sad and ironic. I can't believe that someone like Mike Huckabee sits their and blows smoke about Mormons when he doesn't even know truly who they are and what they believe in. It all stems from fear and misunderstanding. That is why people hate and fight against each other. I'm glad to see all the Mormons standing up for themselves against that type of hate. Pure hate out of fear and misunderstanding! If only they could see how they turn right around, and do the same exact thing to homosexuals. Silly silly world.

  • Ian in Missouri
    Jan. 10, 2009 12:12 a.m.

    Reverend Sharpton was warmly welcomed to Utah, I hope Governor Huckabee is treated same. The primary campaign may have been ugly at times, but there's nothing healthy about holding that against the Governor now, or any other person of another faith for that matter. Remember, "of you it is required to forgive all men."

  • Anti-PC Infidel
    Jan. 10, 2009 12:08 a.m.

    >the most sincere politican anywhere

    Since he is one of the most two-faced, insincere, weasely politicians to ever enter the public arena, I can only assume that you are being sarcastic.

    Huckabee has never been anything other than a wishy-washy, narcissistic, condescending money-preacher. And he is certainly not conservative in the sense that he would actually leave you alone, let you live your life, and won't steal your money from you and give it to others.

    His so-called apology is nothing more than political gas. But then, he's pretty much a typical politician, so why would anybody be surprised?

  • Savant
    Jan. 9, 2009 11:47 p.m.

    Regardless of Huckabee's feelings about the LDS, I don't think he has a prayer (no pun intended) of beating Obama in 2012. If Obama is even remotely successful, he will be pretty tough to beat and given a decent second term, I predict the Dems will challenge the amendment that prohibits a third term.

    Romney might have a shot if the recession drags on or worsens. But the GOP will probably need a real star like Arnold to have a chance in 2012.

  • Lizzy
    Jan. 9, 2009 10:55 p.m.

    Yes, I think I would have rather had Huckabee as our president rather than Obama. I suppose we will now have to stick it out with Obama. I hope though that he is mature enough to govern the USA in a good proper manner. I think if Mitt Romney wasn't LDS he would have been the president, and there is no doubt in my mind about it. He's a fine moral man and certainly what our country needs and could use.

  • RE: Jess 10:16 p.m. Jan. 9, 2009
    Jan. 9, 2009 10:44 p.m.

    Very nicely said! Thank you!

  • Linda
    Jan. 9, 2009 10:22 p.m.

    Governor Huckabee is the most sincere politican anywhere and it is sad to hear people misrepresent him here! He has defended the MOMONS on many occasions and apologized more than once for a one sentence question he made over a yr ago. I say that I agree with the poster who said "let it go." Stop making something of nothing and actually look at Governor Huckabee and hear what he has to say about fixing the country. Read his book "Do The Right Thing." Listen to his daily radio comentary. Stop blaming Huckabee for Romney's failed attempt at the presidency. Huckabee had the same right as Mitt to run and so sorry if folks liked Huckabee better. Too bad Mitt didn't put his money behind Huckabee and they could have beat McCain and maybe the end result would have turned out differently. Huckabee appeals to MANY independents and conservative democrats even like him! If you would watch "HUCKABEE" you would soon be a supporter. Those who know Mike Huckabee, love him!!

  • Jess
    Jan. 9, 2009 10:16 p.m.

    To my fellow Latter-Day Saints: I was annoyed with Gov. Huckabee during the campaign and thought he wasn't fair with Romney. But, then, Romney did some things I didn't agree with also. It's time to forgive and forget. A lot of things get said in the heat of a campaign that are later regretted. If Gov. Huckabee says he likes Mormons and wants to come to Utah, that's fine and I'll accept what he says and hope we make him feel very welcome if and when he comes to Utah. If we let hurt feelings fester, then we are have not forgiven and have the greater sin. I think it was Brigham Young who said: "A man who takes offense when no offense is intended, is a fool. And a man who takes offense when offense is intended is also a fool." Lets be Christians and not fools.

  • Re : Robert
    Jan. 9, 2009 10:11 p.m.

    Who are you kidding?

  • Robert
    Jan. 9, 2009 10:02 p.m.

    Huck only likes us if were dumb enough to vote for him. We mormons are not that dim or dumb.

  • No fan
    Jan. 9, 2009 9:59 p.m.

    ....Huckabee knows he damaged Romney's chances to be president and not only that everyone who would listen to him on TV knows he was openly opposed to McCain picking Romney as VP. quote: "I think McCain can do better than Romney for VP". Sarah Palin did not help republican's win, but Mitt Romney may have. He did not end his attacks on Romney and his religion in the primary, but since has written a book with disgusting remarks about Romney's character in his book. This man is obcessed with Romney's money and good looks. His intention was to eleminate Romney as a future competitor for president. It does not take a brilliant person to figure him out. He is small in what he did, and I have no respect for the man. I turn off the TV when he is on, and never watch his show.I am sure his ratings are not high in Utah. Yes, he was the keynote speaker at the Baptist convention in Utah a few years ago. I'd love to read a transcript of that talk. He had gall to tell the people of Utah that he has not said any bad about the church.

  • Re:4;34 p.m.
    Jan. 9, 2009 9:31 p.m.

    By reading the Bible in the original language Greek(N.T.),it is amazing you see the Jewishness of the Apostles with the Greek text. I am not anti-Mormon,I am still married to a Mormon(35years)As far as the Septuagint it clearly in Gensis teaches one God not gods. I like the KJV ,I am much more inspired by the ancient texts.

  • Re: Kenny
    Jan. 9, 2009 9:00 p.m.

    I don't recall Mitt ever talking about religion other than when he spoke in general terms about "faith" and "Judeo-Christian values" in response to specific questions. If anything, he was criticized for taking religion off the table too frequently.

  • Iowans Rock
    Jan. 9, 2009 8:55 p.m.

    Governor Huckabee has reached out repeatedly to the Mormans. I'm not sure what else he can do for those of you who hang on to the hate. Politics is a messy business and it is a shame when I see people on the same side of the fence on the social issues fighting with each other and buying into the hate talk. Divided we fail.

  • Seattleview
    Jan. 9, 2009 8:56 p.m.

    As everyone has said, Huckabee is, again, "bearing false witness" that he has nothing against Mormon politicians or members of the LDS church.

    Romney really got under his skin when he was makeing advertisements about Huckabees poor record as a governor and he just cant get over it.

    The opposition against LDS politicians will always be shady and conducted somewhat behind the scenes with candidates trying to fire up Evengelicals but incinuating that a vote for a Mormon is a vote for Satans plan. The heavy catering to Evengelicals is one of the primary problems of the Republican party.

    Romney made a mistake in trying to court them. If he would have been more direct and upfront about "not being one of them" but just stress his honest felt positions and how the were different as well as the same as those of Evengelicals, he would have been more respected.

    Back to Huckabee, he is a self centered politician whose primary desire is to serve himself.

    It is "priestcraft" at its finest which Evengelicals know all too well, except it is about politics rather than religion.

  • kenny
    Jan. 9, 2009 8:27 p.m.

    Being a politician is to do things in a way that you hope to become elected and sometimes those things seem dishonest to many people.Good mormons make both good and bad politicians.I hope Mitt runs again and tries to leave religion off the table.If he had then maybe there would have been two home teachers visiting the White House in January.

  • Re: Anna
    Jan. 9, 2009 7:58 p.m.

    No Anna, Mike Huckabee slandered his own reputation by using anti-Mormon rhetoric for political gain.

  • Hard to forgive.
    Jan. 9, 2009 7:55 p.m.

    I have mellowed a little about Huckabee, but sadly there is the guilty by association. Many people from his church will preach hateful things over the pulpit about the Mormon's. There are Evangelicals that are friendly to the church and many that are not, so his comments kind of placed him to the one side. But in fairness, I believe that politics brings out the ugly in many people and just as he said Romney was not the same person, maybe that goes for him also. I have listed to some of his shows and some I have liked, but I actually stopped watching when he had Bill Mar on, I didn't like Huckabee giving him voice that is so anti religion of any sort.

  • Re: Gary
    Jan. 9, 2009 7:53 p.m.

    So let me get this straight Gary, Mormons are to blame for Mike Huckabee using anti-Mormon rhetoric and then apologizing for it? I fail to make the connection.

    You are, of course, free to disagree with Mormon theology, but to blame Mike Huckabee's language on Mormons is laughable.

  • Anna
    Jan. 9, 2009 7:28 p.m.

    Listen to you Mormons on here. You are the worst slanderers that God has ever created. You back bite, gossip and throw stones at everyone who is not like you. At least I have a few inactive mormon friends who don't act like the active members, and who are more genuine in spirit. I plan to stay Baptist for the rest of my life. Maybe I can convert my inactive mormon friends to my beliefs. However, they are pretty sour when it comes to religion after being mormons. Even though they never say anything harsh about mormons like you active ones do.

  • Carolear
    Jan. 9, 2009 7:27 p.m.

    I live in Ar, and as a teenager I was Southern Baptist...so I know how they are...and he is.
    Here in Ar the whole state is verbally and aggresively anti-lds.
    And besides that, satan is our wayward brother....it just the way Huckabee said it that
    set everyone off.
    Carole

  • cjp
    Jan. 9, 2009 6:58 p.m.

    Huckabee must be a good farmer as he sees a need to mend his fences. This is not the same Huckabee that I saw when he was running for president.

  • Re: 4:34 p.m.
    Jan. 9, 2009 6:53 p.m.

    For someone apparently intent on following the Bible, you haven't indicated the Biblical basis for your challenge. As far as I know, the need to study the Greek version to understand the Bible can be found no where in the words of Christ, the apostles, or the prophets.

    Strange, maybe you'd care to enlighten us as to whether that's in the Septuagint.

  • Gary
    Jan. 9, 2009 6:52 p.m.

    Mormons have created this divide and now you complain. There is something very very wrong with the mormons culture. The culture is almost beyond repair. It is vary sad and I pray you come the to truth.

  • John S.
    Jan. 9, 2009 6:50 p.m.

    Mike Huckabee cannot be trusted. He is no friend of the LDS Church.
    1. During the campaign he repeatedly claimed he was "the Christian" candidate. This is different than saying that he was a Christian candidate.
    2. When asked by a reporter if Mitt Romney was a Christian, he said he would defer the answer to Mitt Romney. He could have come out and said something to the fact that the official name of the Church is The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints.
    3. It was because of Mike Huckabee that Mitt Romney had to deliver his speech.
    4. When it looked like McCain was going to pick Mitt Romney as vice president, Mike Huckabee made a huge stink.

    If Huckabee does run again and does by some off chance make the Republican party, I will vote Democrat.

  • HUCKSTER
    Jan. 9, 2009 6:45 p.m.

    I would trust a lawyer,

    I would trust a used car salesmen,

    I would trust Ann "HORSEFACE" Coulter,

    Before I would ever trust this BACKSTABBING LIAR.

  • @skippy
    Jan. 9, 2009 6:28 p.m.

    oh yipee skippy, you go right on believing that religions are the victims in modern day politics.

  • Anonymous
    Jan. 9, 2009 6:16 p.m.

    Because I am a member of the LDS faith, I now cannot tell my baby that he/she can grow up to be president. Because of Huckabee, there is a great religious divide in the republican/conservative block that this country once knew. I am worried, very worried that Obama was elected, because of his socialistic plans which he told us he wanted to put in place before he was elected. US citizens who voted for him are like moths flying toward the flame. Some how I'm not that disappointed either that McCain didn't win...so where does that leave us?

  • To 4:34 commenter
    Jan. 9, 2009 6:12 p.m.

    You expect people to believe that you left the LDS church because you felt that historical Greek manuscripts didnt support its doctrine sufficiently?

    When did ancient Greeks become the only viable conduit to the will of God?

    Sounds like just another convenient insurmountable barrier youve created to barricade yourself against anyone who might attempt to bring you back into the faith.

    No one is going to immerse themselves in Greek theology just so they can prove you wrong.
    I know the routine.

    Its like a siege battle to reach people who leave the church.

    First they shoot arrows by avoiding actual church meetings. Then they build a moat of tears against church members who offended them. Then they build a massive wall of criticisms based on alleged statements from sundry long dead church leaders. Then they drop boiling oil, to keep people away from their wall, by announcing that they served a mission, were temple goers, or saw some old manuscripts that makes the church look bad.

    Why cant people who leave the church just admit they just want to drink alcohol, do fun stuff on Sundays, avoid callings, and/or want to enjoy guiltless promiscuity? THAT I would believe.

  • Amy
    Jan. 9, 2009 5:55 p.m.

    Gov. Huckabee is the first truly honest politician I have seen in a very long while. What he believes in he stands for, regardless of who else opposes him. Huckabee does not value people by their political or religious views, race or gender. Huckabee values all life from the womb until natural death. Huckabee has proven over and over that he wants to work for every American by his bi-partisan work with a strong Democratically controlled Legislature in Arkansas for 10 and a half years. As Governor of Arkansas, accomplished more for his state than many others states and was voted one of the top five Governors.
    When someone has such a good reputation as Governor Huckabee others tend to get jealous. People will misrepresent comments and actions trying to make something out nothing. It's sad when someone who has done so much to make the United States the best country in the world is maligned without just cause. I hope people will not take rumor and falsehoods for truth and look into Huckabee's true character. I think when they do, they will be pleasantly surprised and very blessed to hear about someone who really cares about America!

  • vanno
    Jan. 9, 2009 5:44 p.m.

    Huck is FairTax. He has my vote. Supporting this plan is the acid test for basic intelligence. Romney said he couldn't support it.

  • Huckaburrrrrrr
    Jan. 9, 2009 5:45 p.m.

    NO, NO, NO it's Morons hate Mormons. Morons and Mormons don't mix well as you can well see on this blog about HOT AIRED Huckaburrrr.

  • Skippy
    Jan. 9, 2009 5:44 p.m.

    Why does religion have to be part of any political discussion? Prophecies have talked about this day and these times when the believers would be persecuted. We should not be suprised but stand up for our beliefs and not be ashamed.

  • Is KSL radio going to hire him?
    Jan. 9, 2009 5:36 p.m.

    Is this posturing for a syndicated radio program to replace Sean Hannity?

    Will he be the next host for the Stadium of Fire in Provo?

    I find it interesting that the loyalty shown by Utahs for the evangelical base of the Republican party is misplaced.

    In my opinon many of the political evangelics look down on us and view us as a cult.

    I would have loved to ask Sarah Pahlin what she thought of the LDS Faith.

  • re : crimeney del saglow
    Jan. 9, 2009 5:37 p.m.

    What would you know? You maketh no sense to me. However, Hukaboooo is a fine old wind blower.

  • Huck vs. Mitt
    Jan. 9, 2009 5:31 p.m.

    I do not have a dog in this fight. So let me be candid: Huck is not close to my Christ or my Christianity. He brings a bad smell to being a Protestant. Mitt is a trickster, slicker than an oil spot on the road. And none of his sons have been in the military. What a hypocrit.

    Both of these guys will never be President of the United States. Thank goodness. But they can play in the playground for a while and feel good.

  • Regualr Joe
    Jan. 9, 2009 5:30 p.m.

    Its all greek to me. You mean to say to me if its not written in greek its not to be? Wow what are you smoking?

  • Mormons hate mormns
    Jan. 9, 2009 5:27 p.m.

    I wonder how many prominent mormon democrats Huck would have listed as mormons he liked? For that matter, I wonder how many mormons would list prominent mormon democrats as mormons they liked?

  • To Patrick
    Jan. 9, 2009 5:27 p.m.

    Yes we proselyte other Christians and we don't challenge their belief in Christ, but they question our belief in Christ.

    Who has the double standard here? I think you are a bit confused.

  • The Devil
    Jan. 9, 2009 5:26 p.m.

    Mr. Huckleberry is nearing the gates of hell all the time. Mr Devil loves him.

  • porky
    Jan. 9, 2009 5:00 p.m.

    Mike Huckabee is a LIAR.

    guess a twisted brain can also twist his own words.

  • Shelby
    Jan. 9, 2009 4:56 p.m.

    Consistency 1:55 p.m. writes:

    "Hey, at least Huckabee always has been, was, and always will be the "Evangelical" candidate..."

    *******

    I beg to differ as does Christian conservative Ann Coulter! I recommend you find and read on her website her article: "The Elephant in the Room", dated 01/16/08. Some excerpts:


    Assuming any actual Republicans are voting for McCain -- or for liberals' new favorite candidate for us, Mike Huckabee -- this column is for you.


    My thinking was that Romney would be our nominee because he is manifestly the best candidate.


    Turn on any cable news show right now, and you will see Democratic pundits attacking Romney, calling him a "flip-flopper," and heaping praise on McCain and Huckleberry -- almost as if they were reading some sort of "talking points."


    Liberals claim to be enraged at Romney for being a "flip-flopper." I've looked and looked, and the only issue I can find that Romney has "flipped" on is abortion. When running for office in Massachusetts -- or, for short, "the Soviet Union" -- Romney said that Massachusetts was a pro-choice state and that he would not seek to change laws on abortion.

  • crimen del siglo
    Jan. 9, 2009 4:49 p.m.

    huckabee acts a slug.
    a looser and liar.
    still.

  • anonymous
    Jan. 9, 2009 4:45 p.m.

    Governor Huckabe DID go public on his tv show to defend the MORMONS in the prop 8 controversy on Ca. The Governor is always one to apologize when he has mis-spoken and not try to make excuses for himself. This is just one of the many reasons he is my candidate for president. Now, 2012, until he is in the White House I will support Governor Huckabee.

  • Conservative LDS
    Jan. 9, 2009 4:47 p.m.

    I think I would vote for Ted Kennedy before I would vote for Huck ... he's that toxic to me given what he did in Iowa.

  • Dave from Midvale
    Jan. 9, 2009 4:35 p.m.

    Well folks, this guy may have pulled the wool over Doug Wight's eyes, but not mine. I know a lier when I see one and hear one. "Old Huck" is like Twains character, a real tail spinner.

    There isn't Southern Baptist "preacher" who doesn't believe that Mormons are Christans. He doesn't! Just read what he said to CBSNews.com

    CBSNews.com: Do you believe that Mormonism is a legitimate form of Christianity?

    Gov. Huckabee: You know, Mormonism is a faith that people adhere to. And I think people ought to respect anybodys faith. I am not all that familiar with the intricate details. I have enough trouble keeping up with my own faith. So, I do not spend lots of time trying to evaluate somebody elses.

    CBSNews.com: But do you think theyre real Christians?

    Gov. Huckabee: Once again, I am not going to try to judge. That is for them to determine whether they accept Jesus Christ as the only revelation of God on Earth. And, if they do, then that is how a person is a Christian, not by the label they wear, but by the position they take on the role and the personhood of Christ.

  • Wisconsin Believer
    Jan. 9, 2009 4:34 p.m.

    It seems Mr. Huckabee subscribes to the belief of immaculate historical revision. Do slanderous comments about Mr. Romney's faith made before and during the primaries not exist because he now wishes them not to? I personally am counting on the principle of repentance to be real, however I was taught that the first step is recognition, not denial.

  • Re:Christian Book store
    Jan. 9, 2009 4:34 p.m.

    My Bishop challenged me to check out the Bible,So had to go Christian book store to get book on beginning Greek and other related materials. I eventually learned enough Greek to study critical Bibical manusripts early and late. I came to the conclusion the Bible is all we need. The are no historical Greek manusripts that support the LDS church. I left the Church,and there have been some Mormon Greek scholars that have left for the same reason. If you can give some Greek manuscripts that support the plain and precious pieces. Dates, text type, etc.

  • Shelby
    Jan. 9, 2009 4:34 p.m.

    To Sally Jo @2:25 p.m.:

    No! Huckabee is what he is (I could NEVER TRUST THIS MAN AFTER WHAT HE'S DONE--THE LIST IS LONG). Now that huckabee and his followers are seeing some tough competition in the 2012 election, NOW THEY'RE TRYING TO MAKE NICE!

    GET LOST!

  • Teamster
    Jan. 9, 2009 4:30 p.m.

    I think I like Huckabee better than that loser McCain. McCain was too brain damaged and an idiot. His comment to his wife publicly was more than I could stand. The man is a sicko!

  • freethinker
    Jan. 9, 2009 4:30 p.m.

    Huckabee is backpeddling but he needs to. Mormons are as perfect as people can be and not ascend unto Heaven. Mere mortals just watch and wonder.

  • DCnTN
    Jan. 9, 2009 4:27 p.m.

    I live in the south. I have had more than a few dealings with people of Huckabee's persuasion. I believe Huckabee's comment was a calculated move. I acknowledge that I could be mistaken and have blamed him because of my experience with other people's predjudices, but I don't think so.

    The Republican party is in the same situation with LDS voters as the Democratic party is with black voters. In both cases the minority interest group's allegiance is so deeply ingrained that they can be ignored by those that they are so loyal to.

  • Re: Sunny
    Jan. 9, 2009 4:23 p.m.

    You're free to line up behind Hucks, but you're kidding yourself to suggest his campaign was "civil" and that having the "least amount of money" is some sort of badge of honor. There's a reason he wasn't a successful fundraiser and "Mitt Romney" isn't the right answer.

    "Success" is hardly the word I'd use to describe his governorship. Ethics violations...raising taxes...illegal immigration...Wayne DuMond.

    The fact that Arkansas had been a democratic state for 40 years before Hucks isn't noteworthy if a RINO takes over.

    During the primaries Romney was shunned by the Elite Washington Republican insiders and was mocked by the liberal media because they realized the threat he was and they wanted Obama.

    "He...has the best plan to help heal our collapsing economy with the Fair Tax." No wonder you like Huckabee and can't figure out why people support Romney. If taxes are in fact at the root of our economic problems, you would do well to ask Hucks why he raised them.

    As far as Romney's "greed" and the fact that "some run away with a much fatter wallet" I would commend "The Communist Manifesto" by Karl Marx to your reading.

  • Shelby
    Jan. 9, 2009 4:20 p.m.


    Verla Swords | 11:07 a.m. Jan. 9, 2009 writes:

    "I think some of the things Huckabee said about the Mormons and Mitt Romney are almost unforgiveable. Have Huckabee look up evangilists in the dictionary He will find out what a true Christian is.If he was a true Cristian he would not say such hurtfull things. Mormons are much more Christinn like than Huckabee ever will be.He will say almost any thing for a laugh.My opinion along with several thousand others."
    ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,

    So true...and make that several HUNDRED thousand others!

  • campaign history
    Jan. 9, 2009 4:14 p.m.

    Can anyone remember the Iowa primary? One week before the vote Huckabee started running commercials calling himself the "true christian candidate." Anyone who knows the history of southern baptists and their animosity of mormons would know this guy was preying on the sensitivity of evangelicals and anti-mormon sentiment. It was a great move on his part and thrust him into the spotlight when he took Iowa from Romney. Romney was the favorite. Huckabee had no chance at winning and did not want Romney to be legitimized by winning as a mormon. Does anyone here really think Huckabee likes mormons? He hates Mormons...don't forget it.

  • Politics first
    Jan. 9, 2009 4:13 p.m.

    It's good to see Huckabee is a politician first still. He definitely played the anti-Mormon card during the race and he does have a problem with Mormons. I'm sorry not to play his game here... he just has a problem.

  • Anonymous
    Jan. 9, 2009 4:02 p.m.



    "Huckaberry" That's his new name as far as i'm concerned! He's looking to 20012, and he will do anyting to get elected.

  • Dave M
    Jan. 9, 2009 3:58 p.m.

    Sorry, but I just don't buy it. His campaigners promoted him as the alternative to a mormon candidate. And Mr. Huckabee is too sharp not to know the impact of his words.

    The sentiment seemed to be we were welcome to ride in the GOP bus but not to drive it. I would find it very hard to ever vote for him.

  • Shelby
    Jan. 9, 2009 3:57 p.m.


    backpedaling | 10:29 a.m. Jan. 9, 2009 wrote:

    "Someone is posturing for his next run eh?"
    ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,

    Yes, that is exactly what huckabee is doing. And he's a fool if he thinks he's got any more of a chance in 2012 than the last election. He couldn't even make McCain's short list of potential VP running mates this time! And after huckabee's vile, sick joke about Obama having a gun pointed at him and fearing assassination, huck's delusional IF HE THINKS HE'D EVER GET ELECTED, let alone get the Repub nomination. Buh bye huckabee. You're done and we thank our good Lord for that!

  • Just Politics
    Jan. 9, 2009 3:57 p.m.

    Although I did not appreciate Mr. Huckabee's underhanded digs on Mormons during the primaries, I can accept his apology for giving offense. I still think he has deep religious differences with the LDS Church, but I believe Evangelicals can be tolerant and friendly, even very friendly with their Mormon friends just as Mormons can have deep doctrinal disagreements with Evangelicals and still be friendly. (There are bigots on both sides, but a fair assessment of percentages and vitriol would tilt heavily South.)

    But I think Huckabee was being a politician first in the primaries, not a Mormon hater. They all play dirty because it works. Romney was no choir boy in the race, neither was McCain. Any politician at that level justifies their means by the end.

    I think Romney blew it by playing the game instead of being more a good guy above the fray. (I think polls tracked this as the race went on.) Being two-faced is NOT anti-Mormon, it's politics. It's ugly and slick, but that's why only certain people get in it and stick with it long enough to win. Get over it Utah and get your home teaching done early this month.

  • Go Huckster
    Jan. 9, 2009 3:55 p.m.

    When I read that he is against this scam called the 'bail out,' I decided I like this guy a whole lot. He has my vote for president if he continues in this line of conservative thinking.

  • Chunky
    Jan. 9, 2009 3:53 p.m.

    I understand your feelings of distaste of Huckabee. I was raised Southern Baptist and all I ever heard was the bashing of Catholics not Mormons. My parents were faced with voting for a Catholic in the 60's because they were strict Southern Baptist and dedicated Democrats. For them to vote for a Catholic was basically against their religion. Through prayer and trust in God they did vote for John F. Kennedy. I am a Catholic now and my family is still Baptist but they accept it. I seriously doubt that they would have accepted my decision to convert if they wouldn't have voted for a Catholic to be their next President. They voted for the man they thought could lead them best. Many of you can be bitter if you want to but always remember that God is in control not us. In his eyes we are all Christians because we love him and worship him even if we don't agree in each others doctrine we all have one thing in common and that is serving the Lord and keeping those who would do away with his name by changing the laws to fail in their attempts to do so..

  • Carl
    Jan. 9, 2009 3:45 p.m.

    Huckabee was the Jim Nabors of the campaign with his aw shucks humor. Hey, Mike. Hey Goob.

  • Sunny
    Jan. 9, 2009 3:46 p.m.

    Mike Huckabee ran the most civil campaign with the least amount of money. He was the Republicans best chance against the Democrats. He had a proven record of success as a two term Governor in a state that had seen Democrat corruption; before he came into office they had a Democratic state for over 40 years. During the primaries Huckabee was shunned by the Elite Washington Republican insiders and was mocked by the liberal media because they realized the threat he was and they wanted Obama. He was the real reformer that has the best plan to help heal our collapsing economy with the Fair Tax. It was; and is the likes of Romney and their greed that has ran this country into the ground. While some run away with a much fatter wallet; many are losing their homes and life savings. I am looking forward to seeing Mike take this Country by storm in 2012. Many were duped by the Medias lies, and they are wiser now. They wont be fooled again, not with all the money in Romneys pocket.

  • Huck
    Jan. 9, 2009 3:38 p.m.

    Huck appeared to be very anti-Mormon during the campaign. Perhaps now he's just toning it down and doing what politicians do.....fill the cold January air with a bit of hot air. Aside from that, I like most of his political views except giving illegal immigrants a free-pass card into the U. S.

  • Steve
    Jan. 9, 2009 3:24 p.m.

    Hucklebee is nothing but a two-faced scammer. He, like most politicians, will do ANYTHING to get elected or liked. He back-stabbed Romney when he played the "religion card" during the primaries. He's one step short of being a crook. Anyone who see's him in a different light is either nieve or ignorant. (Other than that....I really like him).

  • Anonymous
    Jan. 9, 2009 3:18 p.m.

    I can't handle another primary with Huckabee's name on the ticket. Please America, a degree in theology does not help qualify him for the highest office in the land.

  • Re: Christian Bookstores
    Jan. 9, 2009 3:15 p.m.

    Before I converted to the LDS church, I went to visit my preacher (of a Wesleyan church). He promptly opened his "Kingdom of the Cults" book and read to me from it. He said in school they breifly talked about it being a cult but didn't really get into the doctrine.
    So after about 2 hours of me talking with him and correcting things that were in that book, his interest left him wanting to know more. I left him with my copy of a Book of Mormon that day, because he realized you shouldn't go by "anti" sources on anything. He fully understood the saying "Don't go to a Honda dealer to ask about a Ford".
    Mainstream Christians have literature on the LDS in the cult section, because of their ignorance and laziness to learn on their own, from the source.

  • Wow.
    Jan. 9, 2009 3:13 p.m.

    Thank goodness "Obama-nation" politics will free us of this problem as well.

  • ldstexan
    Jan. 9, 2009 3:07 p.m.

    I wonder if Huckaberry would release his speech he gave while in SLC during the So. Baptist Convention. Then we'll see how he really feels about the Mormons. I think he's a religious bigot! Would never trust him. ROMNEY 2012!!!!!!

  • Huckster
    Jan. 9, 2009 3:04 p.m.

    Who's he trying to fool? Huckabee is trying to warm up to Mormons as he prepares to run for President again and try to make them think he is their friend and that the evangelical community he represents will be accepting of them. Mormons don't need evangelical acceptance nor are they fooled by Huckabee's smooth apologetic words.

    We all know, deep down Huckabee's opinions of Mormons and it's not good.

  • Duplicity
    Jan. 9, 2009 3:02 p.m.

    It appears the 2012 race has already begun. Unfortunately the Huckster's recent remarks are too little and over a year late. I find it entirely disingenuous that the person who once bragged during a presidential debate about being the only candidate with a degree in religion, "innocently" rehearsed a line from anti-Mormonism 101. Given his self-professed religious credentials, I can't help but think he knew exactly what he was doing.

    I accept Mike's apology, but question his motives and wonder what other pages he'll draw on from the Arkansas governor's political playbook. He seems to have "duplicity" down pat.

    As an aside, although a few commentators have suggested otherwise, not all members of the SBC "hate" Mormons. Jimmy Carter is a perfect example.

  • nat turner
    Jan. 9, 2009 2:58 p.m.

    Is there no avoiding this Huckabigot ?

  • Kaley
    Jan. 9, 2009 2:52 p.m.

    Hick-a-bee is nothing but a rotten sour prune. The man is filled with nothing but bigoted hate for LDS. He's a town hypocrite.

  • Christian bookstores
    Jan. 9, 2009 2:50 p.m.

    If you want to know what Christians beleive about Mormons, go to a large Christian bookstore and right along with Jehovahs Witness beleifs, New Age,you have LDS beleifs all in the cult section, I don't think the problem with Mormonism is social as it is Theological.

















    ormon

  • Hissing Strikers
    Jan. 9, 2009 2:40 p.m.

    Hucklabee, understands where Mormons are coming from-- it not too hard. He knows where Flds are coming from as well. Snakes always seem to crawl out of the same snake pit.

  • Re: My Bad
    Jan. 9, 2009 2:37 p.m.

    That is funny that you no longer like Huckabee because of the Fair Tax, that's the only thing I like about Huckabee.

  • Just a Dad
    Jan. 9, 2009 2:34 p.m.

    The sad part is many people running for office, will say and do anything to get into office. The people who wont do that, and be honest and run a fair race, wont be voted for... So what does that say for the Voting American Public... they like liars in office.

  • Dave
    Jan. 9, 2009 2:31 p.m.

    I still don't trust the guy. I heard anti-LDS remarks out of his own mouth that made me kind of cringe. I doubt that the majority of his offensive statements were misconstrued by the media. He is just trying to regain enough supporters to run again. I don't think he has a chance.

  • Not buying it...
    Jan. 9, 2009 2:30 p.m.

    I'm not buying it. Huckabee tacitly approved of the anti LDS bigotry that reared its head during the campaign.

    There is plenty of reason to be suspicious of the LDS church and its history, but not of idividual members, especially one like Mitt Romney. His choice of where he attended church was simply not an issue that even needed press coverage. His qualifications were an issue and his positions. On those two items he was superior to all other candidates. But we did not get that choice because of religious bigotry. Huckabee is a snake and republicans should run from his kind.

  • Two sided hate story
    Jan. 9, 2009 2:27 p.m.

    um, looks like there is a lot of hate from both sides of the fence.

  • To Not likely
    Jan. 9, 2009 2:28 p.m.

    I agree with you completely. I don't think it was an innocent mistake on the part of Huckabee. I saw it as his true coniving self coming out to stoop that low. I have a hard time believing he was sincere in his apology. And what he is doing now...trying to cozy up to Utahns is just as bad as what Romney did in trying to hob-nob with the Evangelists to get votes. I guess that's what politicians "do". but I doubt he will ever gain the full trust of Utah Republicans or Mormons (not always one in the same) again. Not that we can't forgive a social blunder, but he burned his bridges on the trust issues.

  • Sally Jo
    Jan. 9, 2009 2:25 p.m.

    It will not benefit neither those in the Romney camp or the Huckabee camp to continue to slug it out even long before the next election. Let bygones be bygones. Let us not rush to judgment on everything and everyone. To some, this may not sound like much fun. The way you can help your candidate next time around is to try and stay above the fray and infighting. We can disagree on issues without getting ugly and hateful. Maybe we all need to make some good New Year's resolutions. God Bless all of you!

  • bob
    Jan. 9, 2009 2:19 p.m.

    sure, candidate huckabee has no animosity toward mormons - as long as they vote for him! while in private religious circles he riducules them as cultists, self-deceived, non-christian, and unfit to lead the country. unlike himself, of course, who is a true "christian leader."

  • No Thanks
    Jan. 9, 2009 2:18 p.m.

    I appreciate Huckabee's attempt at an apology and I accept it...but I find it very hollow. The "real" Huck came out in the campaign and it wasn't pretty. To another Huckabee run for President, I say ...NO THANKS...

  • Anonymous
    Jan. 9, 2009 2:09 p.m.

    When Hickabee speaks people don't listen.

  • Ross
    Jan. 9, 2009 2:06 p.m.

    Huckabee is a master of priestcraft, (see topical guide) he is marketing a brand and trying to be popular to everyone. Its big business, for now anyway.

  • Consistency
    Jan. 9, 2009 1:55 p.m.

    Hey, at least Huckabee always has been, was, and always will be the "Evangelical" candidate. With Romney one never quite knows his stance -- liberal Republican Governor or the conservative Republican presidential candidate. Being LDS and having lived in Arkansas and getting to know Huckabee, I suspect that his comments had more to do with his mistrust of a "changed" Romney and his distaste for Romney's pandering for the Evangelical vote than they did for his views towards Mormonism.

  • Are you serious ?
    Jan. 9, 2009 1:55 p.m.

    Didn't Huckabee speak to a anti Mormon group in SLC one year ?

    Huckabee HATES Mormons with a passion...unless he needs a extra vote in the future.

    If you who live in Utah ever go down south to places like Arkansas you would know how much the so called christian right wing hates Latter Day Saints.

  • K
    Jan. 9, 2009 1:48 p.m.

    Patrick has it right. You go to any house even the Christian ones who aren't LDS to try to convert, yet you get upset when other's don't accept your baptism as the same like the Catholic Church and call us haters? You are more respectful than the Jehovah's when we tell you we are a devout Catholic, or other Christian. You would have to rebaptize a Catholic convert or a Catholic whose deceased for that matter, why do you cry foul over a different Christian church not recognizing LDS baptisms?

    Also agree with Careful... Not accepting doesn't mean - mean and hateful. That certainly isn't the case in why most of us ALL are in favor of a certain proposition passed in CA.

    Because of Romney's run this Catholic finds LDS less "peculiar" to use one of your terms. He and the LDS church got some of the same criticism's that Kennedy got, and the Catholic church. Though I doubt I'd vote for any Kennedy if I had the chance...

  • David Anderson
    Jan. 9, 2009 1:45 p.m.

    To my knowledge, Mike Huckabee once asked a reporter a single question about what Mormons believe in the context of a long interview about Huckabee, not about Mormons. Only those people who want to make mischief would try to make a Federal case out of that moment in time. Others should take Huckabee at his word when he says that he would rather vote for an atheist who is consistent, than a man of any religion whose positions change with the winds. That is what Romney is accused of by many, and it has absolutely nothing to do with his being a Mormon. It is the undeserved prejudice of others against Huckabee that is the real issue.

  • Hunt
    Jan. 9, 2009 1:40 p.m.

    can you say "backpedal" ?

  • Timj
    Jan. 9, 2009 1:36 p.m.

    I'll believe Huckabee when he supports a Mormon for president.
    You'll notice that the Democrats don't take issue with the Senate Majority Leader being a Mormon...

  • 2thePoint
    Jan. 9, 2009 1:32 p.m.

    Mike was gratified and proud of the way Mormons stood up for they way the believed regarding Proposition?! Then why didnt he speak up for Mormons when it was happening?

    I was watching Mike Huckabee's TV show when he was asked by a female audience member (in a tone of disapproval for Mormons) about his opinion on Mormons and Prop 8. Huckabee replied with an awkward ONE sentence statement that we (implying the audience) should be grateful for the help the Mormons gave. He came across as insincere and being careful because the cameras were on. The camera panned back to the woman who asked the question. The expression on her face was that she was not happy with that answer. NO WAY did Huckabee appear to be GRATIFIED and PROUD of Mormons for standing up for what they believe.

  • Reply to Texas Mormon ...
    Jan. 9, 2009 1:31 p.m.

    Well said. Perfect summary.

  • AW Shucks!
    Jan. 9, 2009 1:32 p.m.

    The poor LDS had their feelings hurt by a so called Christian. All Christians are frauds.

    The LDS sure can throw out the hate but they can't take it.

  • Patrick 12:10
    Jan. 9, 2009 1:22 p.m.

    I dont agree with your double standard comment. When someone spreads misinformation that Mormons are not something that they believe they are Mormons are justified in being offended by it. Mormons do not to go around publicly criticizing other peoples beliefs. Mormons proselytize other Christians only because they believe they have something to add to their beliefs. Sure, like all religions, there are differences in belief, but Mormons are doctrinally committed to allowing all people to worship God according to their own conscience. Many believe their church is true, but Mormon doctrine forbids them to deride others for believing differently.

    For that reason, I find some of the anti-Huckabee comments on this string disturbing. I, too, did not appreciate the few comments Huckabee made that devalued Mormon adoration for Christ. But no one speaks 100% complaint with my desires. Romney actually did worse that Huckabee in that respect.

    I fully respect Huckabee. His intentions are good, he listens to reason, and he strives hard to make the world a better place. His religious beliefs are no more different from Mormonism that the beliefs of any other politician, including many so-called Mormon politicians.

  • Not likely
    Jan. 9, 2009 1:21 p.m.

    A few caveats to start with. I was never a Mitt fan, because I didn't trust him on the Constitution. I am also much more of a libertarian than a conservative, so I voted for Bob Barr, and likely would have regardless of who the Republican candidate was. Also, I am fine with Baptists and others defining me as "non-Christian" so long as they are clear that it is because Mormon beliefs don't meet the technical requirements that they have established. I'm fine with being a christian, with a small 'c', if it makes them feel better.

    Having said all of that, Huckabee has got to be one of the most disingenuous politicians ever. As a Baptist minister, he knows Mormon doctrine probably as well or better than most Mormons (albeit without any context, so it likely is slanted). His question about Jesus and Lucifer cannot therefore be interpreted as an innocent question. He knew the answer, and he knew that raised in that context that it would be very prejudicial to Romney specifically and Mormons in general. That and other examples make it impossible for me to believe that he really likes Mormons, as a general classification.

  • My Bad
    Jan. 9, 2009 1:22 p.m.

    I was a big Huck supporter and still do like him, but I now hate the Fair Tax idea that was created by two rich guys that they say will tax them more??? yea Right!!!! Can't believe I fell for it.

  • So?
    Jan. 9, 2009 1:19 p.m.

    No matter whether he likes Mormons or not, Huckabee's still a Republican, and pretty far to the right even in that party. So he doesn't get my vote regardless.

  • Huckabee: Mormo-Phobe
    Jan. 9, 2009 1:22 p.m.

    Huckabee's inflammatory remarks were intended to bias Southern Baptists from voting for a Mormon. While I accept his apology, I'm troubled that he doesn't apologize for claiming that he was taken out of context. There was no context from which to take those eleven words. There could not have been any other reason why he would ask such a question other than to make people think that we either somehow worship or revere the devil or despise Jesus.

    Can you imagine the outrage Romney would have insinuated that Baptists somehow were devil worshippers?

    To me it was apparent that his disgust for the LDS faith runs deep. This is further evidenced by his stooping to the levels of collusion with McCain.

    Huckabee accepted McCain's delegates in West Virginia to deny Romney a victory-- when he knew that only McCain and Romney had a chance at winning.

    Like Romney I forgive him, but I don't think he'll ever earn my vote or support. When it comes to my vote, he has a lot of work to do to convince me that he respects the legitimacy of the LDS religion.

  • Anonymous
    Jan. 9, 2009 1:14 p.m.

    Mr. Huckabee--

    I do not dislike you personally. I dislike that in your eagerness to get elected you used religion as a divider. You opened the door for religious bigotry on the national stage in such a way as to make ALL religious people targets.

    You showed that using religion to divide people is a valid, successful campaign tactic. You've made it that much more difficult for all of us who profess to believe in God to run for office or to have any say in our government.

    As our country lurches down this socialist path we're currently on, you are directly responsible for dividing our party--giving us no way to stop the direction our new leaders have taken.

    Watching Obama talking about trillions more in handouts, I can't help but think how it would have been different with a responsible business leader at the helm.

    I don't hate you. I love evangelical Christians. But it is past time they and you recognize it is unacceptable to ask for our vote and our help on all the key issues we have in common only to declare us unfit to vote for as candidates.

  • Anonymous
    Jan. 9, 2009 1:13 p.m.

    well, if he didn'thave anything against mormons, why did he attack them during the campaign? and if he says the he saw a different Romney, why didn't he say so pointing what was different?

    It looks to me that the real double face is Huckabee.

  • The Rock
    Jan. 9, 2009 1:10 p.m.

    I have worked with Evangelical Christians for many years (having served a mission in the south and spend more than 20 years as a stake or ward missionary). I know the culture, the people and their doctrines.

    Huckabee's comments about Romney were carefully calculated to capitalize on Evangelical hatred for Mormons.

    When Huckabee said that 'He' was the 'Christian' candidate it was also calculated to communicate to his base that Romney was not Christian.

    Huckabee used all the right buzz words to get his message across.

    He can't fool me. He is lieing through his teeth. Huck has no respect or love for the LDS people. He believes that we are a cult and definitely not Christian.

    Only God can say who is Christian and who is not. Huck is playing God.

  • Re: John Patrick Lambert
    Jan. 9, 2009 1:11 p.m.

    John, Lucifer never had "divine sonship", that is reserved for Christ alone. But he is and remains one of the spirit children of our Heavenly Father. We do believe they are brothers, because they are. They are also our brothers.

    Enemies of the church (such as Mike Huckabee) take this fact out of context and present it in a deliberately inflammatory way in order to make something which is scriptural and benign look UNSAVORY and SACRILEGIOUS.

    It's Mormon Bashing 101.

  • Texas Mormon
    Jan. 9, 2009 1:09 p.m.

    Mr. Huckabee--I do not dislike you personally. What I dislike is that in your eagerness to get elected you used religion as a divider. You opened the door for religious bigotry on the national stage in such a way as to make ALL religious people targets.

    You showed that using religion to divide people is a valid, successful campaign tactic. In short, you made it that much more difficult for all of us who profess to believe in God to run for office or to have a say in government.

    And as our country lurches down this socialist path we're currently on, you are directly responsible for dividing our party--giving us no way to stop the direction our new leaders have taken.

    Now that Obama is talking about trillions more in handouts, I can't help but think how it would have been different with a responsible business leader at the helm.

    I don't hate you. I love evangelical Christians. But it is past time they and you recognize it is unacceptable to ask for our vote and our help on all the key issues we have in common only to declare us unfit to vote for as candidates.

  • Careful kids...
    Jan. 9, 2009 1:04 p.m.

    We should not use words like bigot and acceptance because a comment such as this "they are bigoted because they do not accept Mormons as Christian." Acceptance is a tough word as is bigot. We've been called bigots for not "accepting" others so we shouldn't use those types of phrases with other people.

    Blessed are the persecuted. Let's be blessed instead of whiners. Let's state the facts - we are Christian - but let's not get too up in arms when someone calls us this, that or the other.

    I don't see the purpose of withholding our "friendship" and fellowship with anyone just because they think we are a charlatan-following cult of brain washed sheep. 7*70 = 490...let's forgive that many times at least.

  • Re:Mr. Lambert
    Jan. 9, 2009 12:59 p.m.

    Nicely said John Pack Lambert and Frozen Chosen.

  • Spin Spin Spin
    Jan. 9, 2009 12:55 p.m.

    No matter what he says now, he made those comments once in time. One only speaks what one thinks, so it's obvious that this is all spin, directed at an audience he can't alienate with his comments. It was different back when he was trying to win voters...

  • re: Tim
    Jan. 9, 2009 12:50 p.m.

    So, Tim, do you think because he apologized, that he didn't mean those words? Do you understand what went on in that 1998 anti-Mormon convention that he was an active part of? Do we discount the many anti-Mormon statements he said when he was governor? We can forgive him but does that mean we have to pretend he doesn't hate Mormons when some us watched him and listened very closely and know without a doubt that he does?

  • John Pack Lambert
    Jan. 9, 2009 12:36 p.m.

    To Doug,
    We do not dislike Huckabee for disliking Romney, we dislike him for the meanspirited and untrue statements he said about Mormons.
    His refusal to accept them as Christians was something he needs to address openly.
    If he now believes we are Christian than I am ok with him. If he still wants to hold to a definition of Christian that excludes people who take the emblems of Christ's body and blood on a weekly basis, than I will continue to hold he is not our friend.

  • Frozen Chosen
    Jan. 9, 2009 12:33 p.m.

    On several occasions during the campaign Huckabee was asked if Mitt Romney was a Christian. He always waffled and said something like,"Oh, that isn't my place to say". Yet when a reporter asked him if he thought Barak Obama, he of the Church of Jeremiah Wright, was a Christian the Huckster said "absolutely". Doug Wright should've asked him if he believed Mormons were Christian and he would've exposed the fraud.

  • Tim
    Jan. 9, 2009 12:28 p.m.

    Huckabee is a likeable guy, and I don't understand everyone's dislike towards him. He is a good politician because he is a good people person, and we all know that to get things done you need to be an effective communicator ( like Obama, even though I don't agree with his policies.) I mean he apologized for saying those 11 words about mormons, so I take his word for it.

  • John Pack Lambert
    Jan. 9, 2009 12:17 p.m.

    To try to imply that Mormons believe that Jesus and Lucifer are brothers is highly unkind.
    Lucifer lost his divine sonship when he rebelled and has no part or connection to God.
    The Jesus we believe in is the one born in Bethlehem and killed on Calvary. The one who rose again on the third day. We believe in the same Jesus as the Evangelicals and all other Christians.

  • Patrick
    Jan. 9, 2009 12:10 p.m.

    I love the Mormons, but I think it's so funny that you proselytize other Christians but feel persecuted when they don't accept you as fully Christian. Kind of a double standard.

    The politicians to watch out for aren't the ones that say something, but the ones that don't - which politician shares Mormon values more Huck or Obama, yet I see more LDS with a grudge against Huck just because he questioned your doctrine a little. Romney's a closet liberal and everyone knows it.

  • Nothing here, move on...
    Jan. 9, 2009 12:09 p.m.

    Sounds like mote-beam syndrome to me... 7*70=?

  • Kathy
    Jan. 9, 2009 12:01 p.m.

    Gag! What a crock. I don't believe one word he said. Just another lying politician pandering. If Jon Huntsman Jr. were ever to run, I think good ole Huck would pull the religion card out again in a second.

  • Robert
    Jan. 9, 2009 12:03 p.m.

    I have met Huckabee twice in my life. He is a gracious man and I hope he can build good connections with the LDS community.

    I am not an LDS members but I worked with many Mormons here in CA to pass Prop 8. We got along well.

    While I don't think Huckabee can demand Mormons like him, I truly believe that he does not have ill will or a problem with Mormons.

  • Shameless
    Jan. 9, 2009 11:55 a.m.

    This man IS talking out of both sides of his mouth, and he is absolutely shameless.

    The Huckster did participate in that 1998 "convert the Mormons" Southern Baptist Convention, and he did disparage the LDS church with his "11 words."

    He and the people who support him give every Latter-day Saint every reason to reconsider his or her loyalty to the Republican party. (But most of us probably won't).

  • Re: Brace | 10:43 a.m.
    Jan. 9, 2009 11:43 a.m.

    You are exactly right! I could not agree with you more! We could have had a decent Republican president, instead we got Obama. But with that said, I would rather have Obama as president than McCain. I am sure McCain was in collusion with Huckabee. They are both corrupt members of the old boy network

  • Huckabee Stay Home
    Jan. 9, 2009 11:36 a.m.

    So you want to come to Utah, eh?
    No need to come visit, I listened to the interview and you are still the same defiant hateful person who will bash Mormons the second he gets the chance.
    I think this whole reaching out (Doug Wright mentioned that they have tried to interview him dozens of times before only to get blow off becuase KSL is in Utah) thing is becuase he relaized that nobody here is watching his FOX News show, becuase, well he is offensive and the show is not that good. Which is amazing when you consider how much of Utah has cable TV to get Conference and Fox News.

  • Stenar
    Jan. 9, 2009 11:26 a.m.

    Huckster is just trying to kiss up to the Mormons because he realizes now that there are a lot of them and not just in Utah, especially after they flexed their muscle with Prop 8. He'll probably need some of them when he tries to run for president again. Hopefully, Mormons tell him to get lost.

  • VF
    Jan. 9, 2009 11:26 a.m.

    Mike Huckabee is a bald faced liar. I worked on Mitt's campaign in New Hampshire to help get him nominated as the GOP candidate for President by manning some of his phone banks, marching in some of his parades, attending and helping in many of his town meetings, "Ask Mitt Anything". I also watched all of his debates and took note of Huckabee and McCain's lies and insinuations. I was also amazed that Mitt treated these two with friendship which was very difficult for me to watch.

    Huckabee made several snide insinuations that Mormons were not Christians and if my memory is correct he was in Salt Lake City with the Southern Baptist Convention (Not sure of the dates)when they had decided to go tracting and telling Mormons that their religion is of the Devil.

    Before my family joined the Mormon Church we were Southern Baptists and have a very good idea of what it teaches and blieves. In fact my Grandfather disowned us as his family because we had joined the church. Huckabee may be able to convince some Utah Mormons that he supports Mormons but I know better.

  • Ozark Bubba
    Jan. 9, 2009 11:24 a.m.

    My fellow commentors have hit the nail on the head. We Arkansans have long known that Huckabee is a Mormon hater. He always made that obvious as governor.

    I don't think he has had a change in heart as he moves from preacher to politician to pundit.

    What he primarily seeks is celebrity status.

  • Yup
    Jan. 9, 2009 11:16 a.m.

    I know Huckabee is a politician and it is obvious he is lying. His lips are moving.

    All anyone with a brain has to do is take a look at the born-again/evangelical view of Mormons to know these people are religously opposed to Mormons and we know these people vote religion--evidenced by their blind votes for "Preseeedent Hyuckabee"!!

    Are you kidding?

    I'm sorry just like if you are not a citizen, you can't be the President if you have the word "Huck" in your name.

  • ROMNEY
    Jan. 9, 2009 11:09 a.m.

    Haven't you seen a LDS person get into politics? they act different and sometimes shady. That's politics.

  • with collie gone
    Jan. 9, 2009 11:08 a.m.

    who will hall throw too. THis is going to be a runaway joke next season. Especially with teams like OU and FSU on the schedule. Collie was like the only good weapon they had last and this year.

  • Verla Swords
    Jan. 9, 2009 11:07 a.m.

    I think some of the things Huckabee said about the Mormons and Mitt Romney are almost unforgiveable. Have Huckabee look up evangilists in the dictionary He will find out what a true Christian is.If he was a true Cristian he would not say such hurtfull things. Mormons are much more Christinn like than Huckabee ever will be.He will say almost any thing for a laugh.My opinion along with several thousand others.

  • Oklahoma Mormon
    Jan. 9, 2009 11:02 a.m.

    No matter how much Huckabee says that he likes Mormons, I still don't believe in Baptists. By the way, I USED to be a Baptist.

  • Huckabee is still the Huckster
    Jan. 9, 2009 10:54 a.m.

    You've got to be kidding. We can thank Mr. Huckabee's "plausible deniability" for his "innocent" comment about the beliefs of Latter-day Saints along with his continual dealing the religious bigot card off the bottom of the deck for knocking Mitt out of the race and thereby giving us McCain and thus Obama. It's not for no reason that many Romney supporters in Utah and elsewhere are no fans of the Huckster.

  • Doug
    Jan. 9, 2009 10:52 a.m.

    Active Mormon here who agrees that Romney ran a lousy campaign. Unfortunately everything any Mormon public figure does it is transposed onto the church membership in general. I like Huckabee (don't think he would be a good President - but is a fabulous speaker, radio/TV personality, etc.) and hope Mormons will not be so sensitive that he gets an unfair label for not liking Romney (millions didn't like Romney's style during the campaign - including some Mormons).

  • Re: Mike Huckabee
    Jan. 9, 2009 10:52 a.m.

    Please don't get me started on Mike Huckabee. He is just like Bill Clinton....a pompous, self-serving politician, who only thinks of himself. Doug Wright is also of the same ilk, and too opinionated on many issues near and dear to conservatives....there are very few true conservatives in Utah...certainly Doug is not one. Mike Huckabee's attacks on Mitt were his true attitude, and his apology was the usual political double speak. He meant was he said about Mitt; his apology was an indicator of his hypocrisy. As a Baptist, he has no understanding of the Latter-day Saint doctrines versus his. And he is still a preacher. Doug, please don't try to sell Huckabee as any friend of the Church....he hates and despizes it.

  • Yawn
    Jan. 9, 2009 10:50 a.m.

    Where's the story? I remember him saying things about how someone that believed in the Mormon God was unfit and irrational to be a legitimate presidential candidate.

    Do a little research and find the unkind things he DID say. C'mon stir up a little controversy.....Isn't that your job??

  • Sandra, St George
    Jan. 9, 2009 10:51 a.m.

    I am always grateful when a person is allowed to clarify their words. Thank you! Too many times we get words taken out of context that change "white to black", so to speak. All that ever does is create contention and hostilities. If we want peace in this land we need fair reporting and personal patience and forgiving.

  • not impressed
    Jan. 9, 2009 10:45 a.m.

    Unfortunately, this is the Huckabee I thought I knew - defiant, still holding a grudge against Mitt Romney (even if everything he says about the man is true, he desperately needs to Get Over It), still rallying his Huck's Army behind the scenes to undermine his fellow Republicans far beyond just Romney. From the moment he hired Ed Rollins, the pit bull of politics, Huckabee's nastier side emerged.

    The stories from his governor days reveal the same person: using religion to divide ("Shi'ite Republicans"), an unrelenting nastiness towards those of whom he disapproves.

    Huckabee is where he belongs: on a talk show. He can be entertaining, but as a politician the man is poison.

  • LDS in SC
    Jan. 9, 2009 10:44 a.m.

    Huckabee's surrogates in South Carolina presidential primary were openly anti-LDS in the newspapers here. Including local elected officials. Same for McCain surrogates. His comment about Mormons on national TV were nothing less than cunning on his part.

    Baptist ministers (Huckabee is a former Baptist minister) love to attack the LDS church every chance they get. Anti-LDS literature is underwritten in large part by Baptist organizations (think Bob Jones Univeristy for example)....

    Huckabee has not and will denounce the anti-LDS rhetoric his base loves to spout off about.

    Huckabee is just another slick politician, currently pandering to the LSD community.


  • first steps
    Jan. 9, 2009 10:44 a.m.

    With all the Mormon bashing being so popular recently it's good to see he may be dropping off that band wagon even though he had a hand in starting it during the campaign. If he went national with comments like this, it would mean a lot more than what he says for 12 minutes to a specific audience in Utah.

    If you really do care about the "Mormon vote" Huckabee, you've still got a lot more work to do.

  • Brace
    Jan. 9, 2009 10:43 a.m.

    I can't stand this Huckleberry guy. He makes his jabs at Mormons and acts like the kid with his hand in the cookie jar, "What? I didn't do anything?!" "I like Mormons." It reminds me of a guy who makes an ethnic slur and in trying to defend himself says that he has many black friends; or says I don't care if people are black, brown, yellow, or green.

    This guy is a chump and I hold him responsible that the GOP nominee wasn't Romney. Instead we nominated Bob Dole's twin brother.

  • Doug S
    Jan. 9, 2009 10:40 a.m.

    Oh, thanks, Huck. So we're not heretics; we're just hicks who throw eggs and rotten vegetables at people we don't like.

    Though I must say, Huck's comments about Romney are spot-on.

  • The Huckster
    Jan. 9, 2009 10:41 a.m.

    Well, it's good to see that Mr. Huckabee is still a good, old fashioned politician who talks out of both sides of his mouth.

  • Double talk
    Jan. 9, 2009 10:29 a.m.

    Let the 2012 Double talk begin from the huckster. Next he will be telling us that there is nothing wrong with the economy and that pigs can fly.

  • Phil
    Jan. 9, 2009 10:32 a.m.

    And Huck claimed that Mitt Romney was dishonest. This some of the biggest political pandering dishonesty that I have ever heard.

  • backpedaling
    Jan. 9, 2009 10:29 a.m.

    Someone is posturing for his next run eh?

  • Jeremy
    Jan. 9, 2009 10:27 a.m.

    Thank you for this article. I think a lot of things are taken out of context during a presidential campaign. My opinion of Gov Huckabee has risen by reading this.

  • Typical Politician
    Jan. 9, 2009 10:21 a.m.

    Funny that I don't recall these staunchly supportive types of remarks toward Mormons whilst the Huckster had evangelical audiences....

    I guess it all depends on who the audience is.