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  • Joseph Smith was a Wrestler!
    Dec. 31, 2008 1:09 p.m.

    Joseph Smith was actually nominated by former BYU coach Mark Schultz (Olympic Gold Medalist) for the National Wrestling Hall of Fame. He was one of the best "catch style" wrestlers of his area with quite a reputation. He was also contemporary with another catch style wrestling legend of that area--Abraham Lincoln.

  • Anonymous
    Dec. 31, 2008 12:15 p.m.

    We play sports because we love them!! Not for recognition. We shouldn't expect to be covered and be appreciative when we are. All sports have challenging factors and deserve respect. Our state has produced some very talented athletes from every sport because those athletes work very hard to get there.

  • Monika
    Dec. 31, 2008 9:58 a.m.

    To Anonymous, Joe Smith is not famous, don't include him in your list.

  • Anonymous
    Dec. 31, 2008 2:24 a.m.

    How about adding these to the list: Abraham Lincoln, Joseph Smith, Dennis Hastert (former Speaker of the House), Tom Cruise, William Baldwin, Robin Williams, Stephen Neal (New England Patriots--never played college football by the way) and Utah NFL products Ryon Bingham (two-time state champ Alta HS with Chargers), Haloti Ngata (second in state with the Ravens) and Chris Cooley (state champ and All-American and all pro with the Redkins). Also add in Rondo Fehlberg, much respected former AD for BYU and NCAA All-American. I hope some of you out there have heard of these folk!

  • RE: Gross
    Dec. 30, 2008 3:16 p.m.

    whatever man wrestlers are tougher than any other sports group. o and you want a list of famous wrestlers how about: Dan Gable, Cael Sanderson, Rulon Gardner, Pat Smith, Brian Urlacher, John Mcain, Warren Sapp and Ray Lewis were both state champs in florida. Carlton Haselrig was a NCAA wrestling champ and a pro bowler for the Pittsburgh Steelers.Yeah check the list it goes on and on O and for those of you who don't know who Jason Chamberlain is check out the article on Utah's top ten high school sport stories of the year

  • To sports fan
    Dec. 30, 2008 7:52 a.m.

    It's just typical for a lot people here. They still live in the 1950s.

  • sports fan
    Dec. 30, 2008 7:40 a.m.

    I can't believe how some people talk so much trash about wrestling. If you don't like it then that is fine, but don't talk smack about those kids. Pound for pound I would say they are the toughest kids in highschool. Also I encourage you to look at the average GPA of the wrestling teams. Wrestling has more honor roll kids than football and basketball combined with not near the kids. Don't talk smack about smart tough kids.

  • Wrestling
    Dec. 29, 2008 11:14 p.m.

    Guess these knuckleheads missed the Viewmont-Davis match. Packed house at Viewmont. Last time I checked both schools are along the Wasatch Front. Problem is, they aren't in SLC.

  • Anonymous
    Dec. 29, 2008 7:38 p.m.

    american fork beat skyline in football... that should be up there

  • OK
    Dec. 29, 2008 2:56 p.m.

    RE:Anonymous | 1:05 p.m. Dec. 27, 2008

    ESPN, Sports Illustrated, Rivals, USA today and Scout have Timpview ranked in the Top 25 in the country (which is ahead of Alta).

    ESPN had TV at #50, not in the top 25. btw- Grant was #10 and Trinity #9 (after Allen, TX #2 got payback from a earlier loss to Trinity and won 5A-region 1 in TX)-Good luck next year Bingham.

    SI.com -Now there is a reliable source. Poly who was ranked #2 and finished ranked #13 after they lost to unbeaten Open CA St champs Grant. What did they rank Grant after beating their #2. They didn't-Go figure.

    As a UTE fan I want to send a memo to the Bronco and his coaching staff. PLEASE....PLEASE.....PLEASE... keep recruiting TV kids. I love seeing them get smoked in big games and especially on national TV. Keep them coming, need more slow guys in the secondary.

  • Grant HS
    Dec. 29, 2008 2:24 p.m.

    Another note. Alta could have pulled that game off like they did the year before, but too many turnovers this year for the repeat.

    Interesting notes:
    Grant finished #14 in the nation and were the CIF champs and beat Poly/Long Beach. It was Poly's only loss. Poly started off the season with a blow out win over 2 time 6A Florida champ Northwestern. Northwestern was coming off a national #1 ranking in several polls. Northwestern lost in the 6A finals this year.

    Why does this matter?

    The Utah teams are not as far behind the so-called national power HS teams.

  • RE:
    Dec. 29, 2008 1:46 p.m.

    the SLC guy | 12:21 a.m. Dec. 25, 2008

    To answer your question:
    "IF cottonwood and Tiumpview both show well against Alta and Bingham does that mean that 4A really HAS been the best classification the last 2 years?

    NO- by the way what does 'show well' mean? If TV ends up playing Alta and beat then next year, it just gives some justification to all the TV fans that during their streak of UT county foes they can argue that they are or were the best team. The rest of 4A doesn't automatically become better than 5A.

    GET A CLUE!!

    5A is the better classification either way. 5A wins over 2/3 of the games every year in the head to head games. The all star games ---WOW--- talk about blowouts. The 3rd best 4A team got blown out by NR and beat a 1-9 Freemont team by 7 against their only 2 5A opponents.

  • Gross
    Dec. 29, 2008 1:25 p.m.

    By the sound of it you are very capable of spritzing all on your own. Sorry but I have never met a wrestler who made me shake in my pants. Now boxing, that's a real sport. Name two famous wrestlers? Now name two famous basketball or football players. I rest my case.

  • Hey Jody:
    Dec. 29, 2008 1:07 p.m.

    Last I checked, Drill Team was a sanctioned high school sport. Lets get some coverage on the Duchesne High School Drill Team that has won 5 consecutive state titles, and will be going for a 6th this January. No other drill team in state history has done this. It's news worthy. Get down to Orem at UVU on Jan 31, and get a write up on these girls and their coaches. Thanks

  • RE: Gross
    Dec. 29, 2008 11:56 a.m.

    I'm sorry we've offended you "gross" maybe you can spritz some perfume on the practice room. I'm sure you have some in your purse. O and I guarantee if you said that to the face of a wrestler you wouldn't last "3 minutes"

    Dec. 29, 2008 10:27 a.m.

    Are you kidding me about the wrestling schools not being in population centers. SF is 5A MC, Springville and BE are in 4A (Mtn. Crest is only a couple hundred students from being 5A)and Delta and Wasatch are 3A. I have seen more people at wrestling tournaments and matches than any girls basketball game. I have even seen more people at wrestling events than some boys basketball games. And fans of those schools can read, I am one of them. Perhaps you should take your ignorance else where as your senseless rants just make you look uneducated. Wrestling is a big deal in Utah weather you like it or not, Get Over It.

  • Gross
    Dec. 29, 2008 8:43 a.m.

    Wrestling is the grossest sport that could possibly exist. Sweaty guys grabbing each other for 3 minutes at a time. The practice room stinks to no end. I don't know how the coaches could stand being in there. No one watches wrestling. Now wrastling, that's another thing.

  • Individual Sports
    Dec. 29, 2008 2:04 a.m.

    I'm with "Sports Lover", the sports that feature individuals are the only sports where you can pick one true top athlete. All others make it too difficult to compare stats when different teams play in different classes against different opponents. I love sports like track and swimming where you are the fastest, or you aren't. There's no arguments, and no excuse.

    And to "soaptheman", your comment "Our sport is by far the toughest of them all" is inappropriate. I have no respect for athletes who dare belittle any other sport. Have some class.

  • HS Sports
    Dec. 29, 2008 1:57 a.m.

    I think there should be a lot more in this article and in this paper about high school athletes. I'm sure there are plenty of athletes who deserve a lot more attention. There were a handful of swimmers who were All-American last year and who went or are going on to Division 1 colleges (that people care about, sorry wrestling--Iowa?). But what it comes down to, student athletes shouldn't compete to try to win the eye of one of the big newspapers, they should compete for the love of their sport.

    But more coverage would be nice fans like myself.

  • To Wrestling fills...
    Dec. 29, 2008 1:53 a.m.

    Personally, I wonder if there are any Delta, Wasatch, Spanish Fork, Springville, Box Elder, or Mountain Crest fans that can read a newspaper. I don't blame DesNews for not publishing articles about wrestling. Plus, all of the above mentioned schools aren't exactly in population centers. I'm from Southern Utah. Just get over it. If you want feature stories about local athletes, talk to your local papers.

  • Anonymous
    Dec. 28, 2008 6:14 p.m.

    oh my gosh. Just to settle this dispute, people care about wrestling. Big whoop someone said nobody does. Get over it!

  • Wrestling fills up its gyms all
    Dec. 28, 2008 11:08 a.m.

    all the time...go watch Delta--Wasatch match next Friday, you won't find a seat in the house. Saw more fans at a Spanish Fork--Springville wrestling match than most basketball games, the Box Elder--Mountain Crest is standing room only...I was also wondering whether girls basketball fills up the gyms, they get plenty of coverage. The UHSAA wrestling tournament fills the rafters of UVSC, the all-star dual has had crowds of several thousands, the Rocky Mountain Rumble will bring in teams from several states and will boast a field of nearly 65 teams...again anonymous and UNTIL, just because our newspapers have their heads in the sand along with you doesn't mean the sport isn't thriving in participation, interest or fan attendance...,

    Dec. 27, 2008 11:44 p.m.

    Wasatch front area schools fill up their gyms for wrestling matches ..... then the newspapers will not cover wrestling until the region & state meets. And then will they only post the winners.

    Newspapers have limited space and limited resources. It can not be all things to all people.

    It's a life lesson, please learn it.

  • sports lover
    Dec. 27, 2008 11:36 p.m.

    I'd love to hear more about Wrestling, Track, and Swimming. The good thing about these sports are the kids participate for the love of the game. There are no coaches deciding who gets what spots on any politics, just kids gutting it out winning or losing. It's a real fair equalizer. Do your best for your individual competition and help the team in the long run. Great individual accomplishments adding to team effort. Hats off to the lesser published sports and the great athletes competing.

  • Hey Anonymous!
    Dec. 27, 2008 8:12 p.m.

    Have you ever heard of that thing called the Olympics? Five Utah wrestlers competed in the Olympic Trials in wrestling (Nathaniel Holt, Talon Knox, Bo Beckman, Cheney Haight and Justin Ruiz). I was also wondering if you have heard of Cael Sanderson, even made a wheaties box--best wrestler college wrestler ever, won 159 matches without a loss, even won of those ESPY things--I'm sure you have heard of ESPN--right! Educate yourself and learn to write!

    And just because our newspapers don't have a clue doesn't mean the sport doesn't exist or that the sport turns out more nationally recognized athletes from out state in one year than basketball has in a generation.

    Dec. 27, 2008 5:28 p.m.

    RE OH JEEZ!!,

    I'm not going to say that one program is better then the other. I would love to see it decided on the field. When I talked to Les Hamilton at the state game he said TV refused to play yet again so hopefully the posts at the top of this page are correct. That being said, can you really blame the hawks? All year for the last two years TV fans have been running their mouths about how they're ranked higher and how they would roll us yet continue to refuse to play. Lots of smack with no action is going to get people riled up. It's the nature of the beast. We just want to see some action behind the words. Play an out of state team once in a while. Play a good 5A team once in a while. Beating one or two weak 5A teams doesn't mean you own the state. A little humility will go a long ways. TV should be proud of what they've done as should Alta. Until they actually play each other this will never end.

  • OH JEEZ!!
    Dec. 27, 2008 1:07 p.m.



  • Anonymous
    Dec. 27, 2008 1:05 p.m.

    ESPN, Sports Illustrated, Rivals, USA today and Scout have Timpview ranked in the Top 25 in the country (which is ahead of Alta).

    Alta players/coaches/fans need to get over this INFERIORITY complex and just MOVE ON!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    who cares if people think Timpview is the best/top program in Utah

  • Alta Alum
    Dec. 27, 2008 11:33 a.m.

    Update to all Alta football unbelievers:

    Alta's only loss this year was to Grant High School out of Sacremento, CA. Grant just won the open division state high school football championship over previously top ranked Cal Poly from Long Beach. Not a bad loss for the Hawks!

    With the football season now in the books, Alta has finished the season being ranked 31st in the nation by Max Preps. The next closest Utah team to Alta is Timpview who finished the season being ranked 63rd in the nation. That's right, Alta is the BEST high school football team from the state of Utah!!!

    Way to go Alta for finishing a near perfect season!

  • Anonymous
    Dec. 27, 2008 11:05 a.m.

    What about girls basketball?

  • What??
    Dec. 27, 2008 7:14 a.m.

    So I guess the DNews should just print football and boys basketball games from Salt Lake and Utah counties since that is what you think the "GENERAL" public wants. Utah is a great high school wrestling state and it deserves more coverage.

  • Anonymous
    Dec. 26, 2008 6:37 p.m.

    jason who??

    never heard of him...

  • RE: Anonymous
    Dec. 26, 2008 6:27 p.m.

    well actually your not paying a lot of attention the article you're commenting on just mentioned how park city resident's put Utah skiing on the map and for your information the "kid from Springville" is Jason Chamberlain he's one of the best high school wrestlers ever he lost two matches his entire high school carer so obviously you don't know a lot

  • Anonymous
    Dec. 26, 2008 3:24 p.m.

    no you don't get it - if the general public CARED about wrestling then the Dnews would write about it..

    but guess what the GENERAL public doesn't care about wresting, they don't care about Ethan Lofthouse or some kid from Springville.

    that is not to take anything any way from those kids..

    I use to ski race. there are a lot of great ski racers in Utah - does Dnews talk about them - no - should they - no - because the GENERAL public doesn't care.

  • Wrestling Fan
    Dec. 26, 2008 2:46 p.m.

    To: Anonymous -- First of all, please write properly, spell words correctly and make sense with what you write. Now---

    Being involved with wrestling for over 30 years, I believe many people 'do care'. To say "no one cares about wrestling" is totally incorrect. There are many people who care and enjoy reading about wrestling. I enjoy reading about any high school sports. It just would be nice to read more about sports other than football and basketball.

    Utah does quite well nationally in wrestling. We have had some of the best wrestlers in the country in the past years and Utah is represented well. An article on some of those outstanding individuals would be great. (Like the one on Ethan Lofthouse)

    Congrats to all those high school football and basketball players who have received mention in the Trib and let's hope more articles will be coming on other sports and their athletes.

    And, hopefully, comments on this site will be positive and upbeat toward ALL high school sports and get fewer comments from those who either don't know what they are talking about or those who love to see their negative comments in print.

  • Anonymous
    Dec. 26, 2008 12:51 p.m.

    no one cares about wrestling..

    if you want people to notice, move to Iowa or Heber, otherwise don't worry about it-

    it people ACTUALLY cared, then people would want to hear about it more..

  • soaptheman
    Dec. 26, 2008 12:24 p.m.

    I agree with the well stated wrestling fan. I have been a part of high school wrestling for the past 7 or 8 years and rarely if ever do these young men get the credit that they deserve. All of that goes to basketball and football as previously stated. Our sport is by far the toughest of them all. Congrats to Jason Chamberlain, Ethan Lofthouse and many other great wrestlers for the pay off of their hardwork and dedication. Too bad nobody really knows about it because of the lack of coverage given to the sport of wrestling. What a shame that such great talent is overlooked by the general public.

  • Wrestling
    Dec. 26, 2008 10:37 a.m.

    How about Utah prep wrestling? Jason Chamberlain from Springville was the no. 1 high school wrestler in America. Several other Utah wrestlers were all-americans. Mountain Crest High finished a three-peat, Viewmont won its 5th title in 7 years, Wasatch won state again and Millard proved to be as good as anyone. Wrestling is one of the top Utah sports and yet the local newspapers snub it for the typical basketball and football stories. Wow! Haws is going to BYU. How about Ethan Lofthouse of MTN Crest signing with Iowa? Now that's big sports news.

  • RE UT County
    Dec. 25, 2008 10:12 p.m.

    Please tell me you're joking... I had to listen to smack from PG all season. "Were going to own 5A" "were the darkhorse and we well take state", "We barely lost to TV so were going to dominate, at the end TV and PG will be holding trophies", "PG is going to roll Alta then take out Bingham for state". Honestly when will you learn? PG is good in Utah county and that's it. You lost to a team that Alta straight up hammered the following week. You didn't make it to state. You didn't make it to the semis even. Deal with it! You're not as good as you think! You might be returning a bunch of starters but guess what, it doesn't matter! Syracuse returned THEIR WHOLE TEAM! Plus Alta's JV got to play almost half the season so were returning plenty too. I'm glad you're proud of your team and you should be. They had an awesome record and an awesome season but not good enough and it'll be the same next year.

  • UT County
    Dec. 25, 2008 11:50 a.m.

    It doesnt matter because PG will beat you both next year and you are both on schedule. Returning 16 starters from a 10-2 team. Should be a good year and a new, tough 5A Region!!! Anyway Alta, TV, Cottonwood, Bingham and PG will be strong. Getting ready for a great year in football. Congrats again TV and Alta. You are the favorites until beaten.

  • TV
    Dec. 25, 2008 11:02 a.m.

    is only scheduled to play Alta and that might change.. the bingham game had to be cancelled because UHSSA changed the regions again and added provo back in the region.

    but for now, Alta vs. Timpview is on...

  • the SLC guy
    Dec. 25, 2008 12:21 a.m.

    Attention writers

    The schedule makers are listening.

    Alta and Bingham both play each other AND Cottonwood AND Timpview.

    Break out the popcorn, I'll be all over those games.

    But one question. IF cottonwood and Tiumpview both show well against Alta and Bingham does that mean that 4A really HAS been the best classification the last 2 years?