Comments about ‘Activists hand-deliver letters to LDS Church’

Seriously, you people would be much better off spending your time doing something else. The Church's actions are based on its doctrine, not on public opinion.

I find it interesting that the LGBT community seeks the Church's support (as opposed to passive allowance) for these bills. I would be a little surprised if the Church responds positively (i.e. in favor of these bills). While the Church has pushed legislation before, it has done so only when the situation was closely tied to Church doctrine, which doesn't really seem to be the case here.

The way I see it, the Church would ALLOW such legislation to pass without getting involved, but not actively PROMOTE said legislation.

I hope those of the LGBT community will respect the Church's right to stay away from active promotion of partner rights, if that's what the Church decides to do.

Just what I would like to see, Joe and Jim walking hand in hand coming to Sacrament meeting. They would have to allow their dogs and cats to come in lieu of children. Then I could say to my kids, it's fine to be a homosexual look how happy that eternal union is. Go ahead son the Lord says it's ok. I think those letters just may change Pres. Monsons mind.

To me, the sad thing is that I have to keep seeing this boring nonsense in the news day after day, and will have to do so for the forseeable future; while on the other hand, football season is all too quickly drawing to a close.

This is really BAD !!!

The leaders said that they did not object to the gays getting their equal rights - this would have worked but they had to put in the 5th point dealing with redoing marrige. Now they are going to start yelling and screaming about how we went back on what we said etc... When in reality it was them that did this by adding that last point about marraige. They blew it (once again) and not (once again) they will put all the blame on the church and the people. I think that they did this on purpose just to stir up more trouble and to play the victim all over again..

While these Gay rights activists hand-delivered more than 27,000 letters to the LDS Church's downtown Salt Lake headquarters, how come a "turn around did not take place", and the LDS Church's worker's there hand all of them a free copy of the Book of Mormon and also a free DVD to?. Then after they left, take those 27,000 letters and make "paper airplanes" out of them all, and next time you see them in the streets, toss them at them.

Wow! Tenacity with a capital "T," I must say. All right already. This is getting OLD. The Church has already officially spoken in the Nov. 5th statement. And that was quite generous of them. They have turned the other cheek (and have reminded the entire membership to forgive as well) when church buildings were vandalized, etc. Those who choose to participate in homosexual behaviour have no business telling the first presidency what to do, what to say, and where to say it. I choose to participate in heterosexual behaviour and I wouldn't dream of telling the first presidency what to do. They are cool.

It may have been some homosexual activists who firebombed Gov. Palin's church building in Wasilla. People were inside it too, but got out safely. Enough is enough.

So what?
I guess I don't understand exactly what it is they want the church to do.
Does anyone understand what they want?
Is it just another pat on the back saying "yeah, we understand your gay and . . . good luck?"
Do they want the church to take up their mantra for more rights?

You seem remarkably inactive for a group calling itself "activist."

If the LGBT community spent half as much time arguing their position to the public as to they do trying to bully the Church, they might actually accomplish something.

The Church has already said it does not oppose equal rights, even some special LGBT rights. But, it's not up to the Chuch to make that case. That's your job.

Why try to bully the Church into carrying the water for you? It won't work, of course, but that's not really what you want, is it?

You claim to seek a government-sanctioned partnership with the one you love. So do it. Openly, legally, decently, non-violently, through the political process. Like I would have to do if I wanted to invent a new "civil right" to visit twelve unrelated women in the hospital, or inherit property from my hamster.

This appears to be just the latest in a series of childish tricks designed to justify whatever mindless namecalling, threats, and violent demonstrations you have in mind as your next tactic.

You might as well hold your breath until you turn blue.

Human Rights campaign, hmm. What is your campaign doing to make China have "human rights" for everybody, meaning the right to free speech without being thrown in jail.

What are you doing for the people in Sudan? They are literally starving to death and need food. Why don't you use your money for fighting for gay marriage to help them?

And, what are you doing to help the unborn in this country? What services are you providing for mothers who need assistance to have these babies?

What are you doing to help poor families?

If you think the LDS church, or any other church that was against Proposition 8, let alone the African Americans (NO THIS IS NOT A CIVIL RIGHT ISSUE) will changed their mind, I have a bridge to sell you.

Get your hearts in the right places and help other people instead of thinking about your own passions, and you don't need to be religious to do that.

Those with same-sex attraction already enjoy equal rights under the law.

What they are looking for is special rights based on their sexual conduct.

And as the political debate in California shows, they are never satisfied. Civil Union laws in Cali elevated homosexual relationships to on par with real marriage several years ago. And all that did was embolden the radical homosexual activists to sue for the name "marriage" as well so as to set up a federal law suit or a suit in a State like Utah.

I think decent, moral society has been more than tolerant enough already. The homosexuals need to stop demanding that society accept, condone, celebrate, and reward their sexual conduct.

they honestly think the church is going to reverse their stance on marriage since the history of mankind began?
Keep writing those letters, though. I guess it's better than tramping through the streets.

What I find sad is that, after the election, the Church was bombarded with hateful protests, with all kinds of harassment for it's members because we were evil, etc. Now, when that doesn't work, they try a stack of letters. So, if this doesn't work (which I don't see how 27,000 letters can change church doctrine), do we get protested and picketed and screamed at again? Did this same group take duplicate letters to the Catholic church and the Jewish organization? Or are they still just singling out the Mormons? And if so, why?

Yet another memo for this GLBT activist group: "Does not object" is NOT the same thing as "morally obligated to lead the charge."

What NOT to expect: The church suddenly becoming a crusader for the rights this group is demanding. Expecting, much less requiring, that the church actively campaign for legislation of this order smacks of pressure tactics and political maneuvering. I wouldn't expect this course of action from the church--and neither should any other reasonable-minded individual.

What TO expect: The church not standing in the way as the Legislature debates the merits of individual secular/political measures and votes on their passage. In other words, the church *reverts to neutrality* in the absence of a compelling moral dimension to the issue, such as the redefinition of marriage.

From a strictly personal active-LDS perspective, the Legislature should certainly consider these issues and help resolve the *social* and *economic* inequalities GLBT couples often face. As long as the solutions are equitable and don't compromise morality, no worries. (Redefining marriage is a whole other ballgame, obviously!) Just don't expect the church to campaign FOR these things--you'll be disappointed. The church has other priorities.

I think you're all missing the point. It looks like the LGBT community is being civil here. Sure, 27,000 letters is a lot, but like they said, they just want to make sure they all got there. I don't think it would change any minds as far as the LDS church goes, though. Thing is, a lot of members of the church were uncomfortable when the protests were going and a lot of people that belong to the LGBT community were out of hand, but now they do an act of civil protest and we still complain?! Let's just get along, huh? Differences are differences. Gays and Lesbians are people too. Let's not treat them otherwise.

Why when a liberal bill is passed is it the will of the people but when it fails it is the crazy wacko religious kooks fault? The people have spoken. Better luck next year!

go away guy people. and understand that every state that has voted on the marriage thing has voted no so please go home and in your home do what you may.

You could deliver 1,000,000 letters and it wouldn't change the commandments. God's law is not based upon popular opinion or public debate, it is based on doctrine as prescribed by a loving Father in Heaven. It is a hard thing to fight against what is right.

Yeah, we know what that code word means.

I agree, however, that this will not soften the heart of the LDS Church. Neither did the Civil Rights Movement or the threat to withhold Statehood
based on the doctrine of polygamy.

Oh, wait.

Someone please help me understand this...the gays and lesbians are mad at the LDS church for getting politically involved with Prop 8 yet now they want the church to get politically involved with this bill...whats the difference? Oh wait the first went against what the gays wanted and the second doesn't. Make up your mind...do you want the church politically involved or not? Seems hypocritical to me...