We could sure use some production out of Boozers salary spot to help the team
right now. Milk him dry from now to the end of the season. Go for broke,
everybody by in and play defense like we've never seen. Lets put these wonderful
athletes to good use and make a run. Go Jazz!
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No, Miles didn't single handedly lose the game last night. Memo's 5 turnovers,
35% shooting, 0-for-3 three-pointers, and generally porous defense had a lot to
do with it also.It's poor timing to question Korver's superiority
over Miles when he is visibly playing better defense and was a crucial factor in
the victory over Detroit the night before. KK's jump shot's better, his FT
shooting is better, his +/- is better, and maybe his defense is about as good as
CJ's. I don't understand why Miles doesn't understand that he has to work
harder when he has seen Millsap and even AK and Brewer do so well by
hustling--and get penalized when they don't.
Jazx have never guarded the outside,not in 80's or 90's with
stockton and malone, not now,IT'S THE SYSTEM DUMMY!Sloan's system.IT dares the other to beat outside,but when have no one defending the inside either it hardly matters.SLOAN MUST GO.THE SYSTEM MUST CHANGE.The three pionter
IS part the game defensively as well as offensively.
OH so Miles single-handedly lost the game last night. Now that is FUNNY. But I
am sure if Korver would have played more minutes, we would have won. Like he is
a game changer on defense and on the boards.
Why would you assume that the same person is posting about CJ? I posted
yesterday about CJ, one time... and my thoughts haven't changed since then. He
should not have been in down the stretch of that game, and hopefully he proved
that to Sloan. Even though CJ has a lot of POTENTIAL, he simply isn't showing
what he should be (yet). It's not just about one play or one missed shot (for
him, or anyone else), and it isn't just about stats. It's about playing hard,
smart basketball, having a feel for the tempo of the game, and doing all the
dirty work that take extra effort and desire. Sorry, but Korver should have been
in at the end of that game... even if he was in, and missed a shot, or made a
mistake.... pay more attention to the game itself, and maybe some of these
things will make sense?
It is refreshing to see by your comments and post that some people actually do.
Great point and comments.
Funny........Same guy posts under 10 different names so he can bad mouth CJ. If
you are man (and I doubt you are) post under the same name. Miles did his job
in the game. How did Rose get so open on the last play? Oh the guards played
no defense and wanted to be bailed out. You don't see Kobe asking for help when
the games on the line. If you are good enough to start in the NBA, you should
be good enough to keep Rose in front of you. Real men play defense, the rest
stand around waiting for help.
It wouldn't hurt dwill to play some better d either. I haven't said anything,
because he's the man, but it wouldn't hurt him to step it up defensively. As for brewer, i haven't paid close attention to his playing so i don't have
anything to say. As for ak, he's been playing well, all around, and his
intensity has been good on this road trip, he's had some lapses, but not on this
road trip, he's made some bad passes though. as for price, i think he's better
in the second half, and brevin knight is better int the first half. they both
play better with out defined roles, as far as not knowing exactly when they'll
be playing. okur has been good the last two games, i thought he rebounded well
last night, and his intenstiy was up, that's what we should expect from him. as
for harpring, i think he needs a defined role, he needs to know when he'll be
playing every night, he's a veteran and he deserves that, so he can prepare for
that, and he needs more minutes, we would've won that game last night if booz
had been playing.
Some people think sloan is hardest on the players who have the most potential,
and most people think that it's good for the players. Some of us fans look at
cj and we see a long quick player, with a sweet shot; if miles couldn't be any
better, i don't think he'd be catching so much flack from us fans; it's a little
unfair for everyone to be putting the spotlight on him; but he'll either respond
to it, or not. I would like to see him really break through, for the most part
he's responded. I was thinking about how millsap built his career from the
foundation of rebounding, it was the one thing he controlled, from that pillar,
he built his game into one that is scoring, he's stepped up; he's always been
focused on rebounding. I think cj's pillar needs to be man up defense, he's too
quick and long, he should be able to consistently stop people from scoring and
getting the ball, it's the part of his game he can have the most control over;
so we fans, get dissapointed when we don't see it, we want to watch him for
years to come.
Good post,old wize one,lot`s of wisdom in you brief comment,it`s not about the
money apent by the owner,if that were true Yankee`s would win every year,rather
it`s the desire/will to win that brings championships,I know that this team with
a healthy Boozer has all the pieces,but does it have the drive,the heart?
To: Kevin O'Conner,We fans, want a shot blocking, defensive minded
big man in the middle again/still this year.Whats new with you?
It was just bad night. They were tired ( after double OT game no wonder).
Kirilenko and Okur, Miles and those boys always throwthe game with their 3
point brick attempts at the endof the game...I for once agree with
Sloan..AND, I calling O'Connor out, he needs to make adeal and
dump Boozer.Dump the Booze or the fans with have their ownmutiny.
All the Jazz really care about is keeping the franchise profitable by keeping
fans in the seats and having an exciting team that can go to the 2nd round,
sometimes the 3rd round in the playoffs and that's it. This team and market is a
2nd tier market in both the college and in this case the pro-level. Great place
to live, but if you want real Pro-Level sports you need to look to the states
around us. If Miller wants a championship, he'd pay for it, and fans would help
by paying higher ticket prices. In the end neither will do it and Miller will
say that he was loyal to his beliefs which is fine. His beliefs won't bring a
championship. You do have to give O'Connor credit for managing this team the way
he has. He has a team that fills the stadium and managers the cap and drafts
well. Players, fans and Owners/Management need to prove they want a championship
by their actions not by their words.
Boy,I`d hate to be in the position to have to defend miles everyday,if he were
doing what he should be doing,there would be no need to defend him.just my
Pick on CJ time.He's young and he will learn.Jazz for the most part
played well and are still getting healthy and gelling.Let's hold off judgement
until after the bucks if they get that win it was a good trip at 3-2 above 500
on the road. I think if they were better rested at Chicago it would have been
closer and you can't hold it against them losing to the team with the best
record on the road. Leave boozer be he has to be 100 percent before he
can play with what happened in the past.It was probably all the hyped up fans
that caused him to come back to early last time.As you can tell williams is
still not 100 percent as he has lost some quickness it takes time to heal.Not
everyone can heal as fast as some of these super human fans:)
If the playoffs started today the Jazz would not be in them. You people better
get on board and do some rooting or you will have another early summer vacation.
When it comes to guards in the NBA and the starting 2 guards on various teams I
think we are at the lower end. When I say that I mean the point guard and #2
guard. We just don't measure up with most of the good teams. Yes we do with part
of the combo in D-Will, but the other half is lacking. Ben Gordon who also lit
us up last night, is an unrestricted free agent this next year and I for one
would love to see him playing for the Jazz. He can do it all. Score, pass,
rebound, and play the point if needed.
Spin the stats anyway you wish....botom line...MILES= no effort==no heart
The Jazz can't keep perimeter players from getting to the basket. Defense is a
test of will, and the Jazz don't have the will to play both ends of the floor
the entire game. That's why they're OK, not good. On their best days, that's
why they're good, not great. In the twenty years I've watched the Jazz, this is
the most talented group they've had top to bottom. If the grittier (Millsap has
true grit by the way) Stockton/Malone era alums had this level of talent to go
with their will, the Jazz would have more than one championship banner hanging
in the rafters. "We'll get 'em next time" is too often the rallying cry of this
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Nice job of editing the stats. Whats your purpose in leaving out the 2 steals,
one block and only 1 turn over in 34 min. Here is the "un edited" version of
C.J. and Korvers stats for last night. Min. Fg 3pt. ft.
re. as.stl. blk. to. pts. Korver: 17 2-5 0-0 1-1 0 1 0 0 1
5Miles: 34 4-6 0-1 2-2 2 1 2 1 1 10
I guess I'm some what different than most of you but I thought the effort and
intensity was there last night. I don't like to whine but there was a couple of
calls that really hurt, or no calls. We just got beat. Chicago played a great
game. You are going to get beat in this league sometimes even with a good
effort, it's just the NBA. This Derrick Rose is already a top 5 point guard in
this league. What a rookie! Chicago is going to be a real good team come playoff
time if injuries don't hit them. So overall I'm happy with the Jazz and their
effort last night. Nice game guys.
from the 2/3`s,it`s like playing 3 against 5,Brewer started out strong but is
fading,Miles....what can you say....plug Almond in at the 2 or 3 give him a
shot,then give Korver a shot,amongst the 4,(Brewer,Almond,Miles,Korver)one NEEDS
to step up...PLEASE,or send them all to Milwaukee for Redd
34 minutes,10 points,2 rebounds,1 assist,another typical night
IDJazz...... I agree with you that opponents guards are scoring way to easily
especially on DWill, and putting other players in foul positions. Could
somebody please go to the deep corners and contest the three. Three guys on the
weak side and one on ball side, shooters around the league lick their chops when
the Jazz come to town. I'd like to see a better play to set up our three point
shooters. Frustrating GO JAZZ
The most frustrating thing about miles is that he has the talent and physical
ability to play defense and rebound a bunch better than he does,not a bad
kid,just no desire/heart
Sloan is complaining about 3 point shots. With less than two minutes and down
six, you don't win ball games with the pick and roll. Utah has one, D Will, that
drives for the basket with any success. Yet he does not do it enough. Look at
the paint points. Great high point players drive for the basket, make it, get
fouled or both. We lose too many games because of the lack of 3 pointers, but
Sloan will never promote 3 pointers. He's the one who needs to take a hike.
my observation of cj, standing there with the game on the line, when in a
position to make a play; i'm not posting again for awhile, a long time; i can't
keep posting about cj standing around, i don't want to see our jazz men standing
around on the court, leave that for other teams, that don't make the playoffs,
other teams where every player is out for himself; not our jazz, we're one for
all, if you're at a game and you're a fan, you need to let those guys know; cj
needs to be reminded, every jazz fan just wants to see him be excellent, for the
improvement of his game, it gets good marks, i'm not going to post about cj
again until he's consistently playing good, i mean, defense, help d, rebounding,
steals, blocks-he got back on a couple of plays, i remember one time he kind of
jogged back and the guy blew right by him, luckily the guy missed the layup, but
that jogging back wasn't consistent with the kind of effort he had at other
times. the jazz can't afford to have players out there who aren't at a high
level of intensity.
Miles may have made a bit more effort at some point, but not enough to be
playing down the stretch of a WINNABLE game. Not sure if Sloan was just giving
him an opportunity to see what he would make of it? I understand that... but
shouldn't he be trying to win the game FIRST? The team was NOT in synch late in
the game, and Sloan just seemed content to stand by and watch...
Our small forwards and guards (all included) are not rebounding good enough
right now for us to win these kind of games. Memo and Milsap can't get 20 each.
The guards and small forwards need to block out and hit the boards.Against many match ups, I think Price is the better back up at point. Knight
hurts us defensively because of his size against against bigger match ups. Price
usually grabs a few rebounds for his minutes, when he get minutes.We
miss alot of what Boozer brings to the court when he is on the court and it is
nice to have both he and Milsap. But for even what Boozer is making now he is a
huge gamble not worth taking.
cj just stood there as rose drove the ball around the screen and went in for the
game winning lay up, he didn't even take a step towards rose, or lift an arm;
you'd think the way that rose was driving and at least, with the game on the
line, he'd be looking to get a steal or help on d, which he was in a position to
do, but didn't; and that's what i'm critical of, and what cj needs to learn,
sloan played him at the end of the game, and he made sloan look like a fool for
doing it; yeah, korver or harpring might not be as quick and long, but at least
those guys would've had their head in the game enough to know the situation and
they would've tried to do something, instead of standing there; i thought
basketball was a team game; yeah cj played better, but since i probably watch
him more closely than anyone else, i notice those things, and I'm tired of these
same old observations. if i watched the other players as closely i'm sure i
could find something to be critical of, but this was pretty obvious.
Not much suprise tonight, the Jazz just ran out of gas in the fourth. I hope Boozer is fine adn the MRI is negative, I'd really like to see him back
in teh lineup. The group we have now is playing pretty well but I think Boozer
would be a great addition.And how about that Paul Millsap?! I think
the initial estimates of him getting mid level exception offers are looking a
little low, I'm betting he gets something in the 5 year $50 mil range before
next season. It will be impossible for the Jazz to sign Boozer for any more
than he is making now and still be financially viable, even that would put the
Jazz in Luxury Tax territory. The more I look at it though the more I think
that a Championship calliber roster is going to cost around $80 Mil in todays
NBA. If Miller isn't willing to spend that kind of cash then I don't think he
is serious about winning a Championship.
RE:MilesBefore New Jersey and at New Jersey CJs main focus had been
offense first and has struggled defensively. Sloan even mentioned that he wanted
CJ and Brewer to stay back and help rebound the ball yet CJ was off and running
on opponent shots. In a Sloan system at least at SG, SF, and Center you are
expected to play defense first. With a shoot first mentality in a Sloan system
earns you bench time and even run off the team.(Giracek) Tonight I
think CJ finally has understood the message. His defense was great and he was
thinking defense first, he had deflections and passed the ball well. His offense
looked more like it flowed tonight because of what he did on defense. If he
keeps the mentality he had tonight he will demand more playing time.About your comment on guard defense. Whats new!!! Brewer, AK, DWill, always
struggle against good scorers. I know People think Boozer, and Memos defense
stink but most of there fouls come from fouls on trying to defend there guy as
well as the guards man coming in the lane uncontested.
Gordon and Rose go for 50 tonight. Last night Iverson and Hamilton go for 68.
Hummmm......And Miles plays no defense. What about DWILL, Korver and Brewer?
Can our guards stop anyone from scoring?
Yeah, I caught the highlights on ESPN and they said Boozer is having a third
MRI...just leave already you over-paid lazy sally!! All they need is someone
with some heart that can play d that will help D-wil and Millsap! Start packing