Utah Jazz: Miles, Brewer fight back


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  • R3EE
    Dec. 22, 2008 10:45 p.m.

    You guys think Kyle Korver is the best thing that has ever happend to the Jazz. He really isn't that good. Sure he has a good shot, but he has no defense. The Jazz have plenty of offense, so he needs to work harder on defense so he can be an all around player. And I think that C.J. just needs some more NBA experience. He's only 21 years old and I think he could tun out to be a really good player.

  • Miles
    Dec. 20, 2008 5:53 p.m.

    Yes two athletes (dwill and sap) and three slow players (memo, koufus and korver). That's what he wants on the floor to win his 20 games. If any of you think we can win a championship with Korver and Harpring getting lots of minutes, good luck. Koufus is not taking us anywhere at the moment and we won't win a championship with only dwill and millsap. Without cj and brewer, no chance in the playoffs.

  • whats going on....
    Dec. 20, 2008 5:43 p.m.

    Will Jerry Sloan get a brain and for once play the 5 best players on the floor instead of playing mediocre players because they are veterans. Yes I am talking of course about Matt Harpring and CJ Miles. What do these two players bring to the court that AK or Korver don't. It's absolutely dumbfounding to watch Matt (can't hit the broad-side of a barn) Harpring play out there. CJ's not much better. Korver and Brewer are much better than CJ. What is Sloan thinking?

  • selfless service
    Dec. 20, 2008 4:44 p.m.

    If cj learns what selfless service means, he'll be good; i agree, i don't think he gets it, that the great ones are there for others, the great ones are the first ones to dive for a ball, run back on d, set the pick, pass, whatever it takes; the great ones all know that they are great because they are there to serve their teammates; with that, comes the added responsibility and then becoming the man, it doesn't happen in one game, it doesn't happen in one season; it takes a consisten approach until becoming the man has completed itself. the first priority of the great ones, is always, to be the first to serve the others. being the man isn't sitting on your throne having the adoration of everyone thrown at you, because you decided the port a potty you call your ego is a house of gold, although, it seems like your the man to yourself, that man is not the man in reality; the man in reality is the first one to serve others; that's the man who has the most, i think dwill gets it.

  • Sigh...
    Dec. 20, 2008 4:01 p.m.

    Korver is over 90% for his career from the FT line. For the last couple of years, he has been over 91%. He has been playing with a wrist injury for most of the year (strange... when a player actually plays, instead of sitting their butt on the side, game after game, after game... some forget that playing with an injury (especially a wrist injury to the shooting hand of a shooting guard) may effect play some), and injury that still isn't fully healed. Right after he sprained the wrist, he missed a handful of free throws, and with it being early in the season, it killed his FT% for this year. Since then, he's made them all, his stroke is back, and the FT% is working it's way back up... people who PAY ATTENTION, and don't just check out the latest stats, know that Korver is still the go to guy for clutch free throws.

    Oh, while I'm not the person accused of having a Korver fettish, or the person the one who did the accusing. The only fettish here seems to be from whoever posts as 'miles'.

  • Re:Trent T
    Dec. 20, 2008 3:56 p.m.

    I don't think alot of people are over reacting about the percieved characters of Miles and Brewer. I believe the majority of the negative posts are from the same guy.

    Go Jazz Team !

  • In Tulsa
    Dec. 20, 2008 3:30 p.m.

    Let's get one thing straight for those who feared cj putting up numbers and hurting the jazz if he would have left. He was going to okc, the thunder, anyone can put up numbers on that team!!! If that was the biggest choice greg miller had to make about matching the contract, I'm worried about the future decisions he'll make. Cj was going to a lousy team, we should have let him go. He doesn't play within the offense and he takes no pride in his game. I'll be willing to bet the loss of almond will hurt the jazz more. Brewer is slacking a little, the bench might wake him up a little.

  • Montana
    Dec. 20, 2008 2:13 p.m.

    I wonder if Boozer has ever heard of Tylenol Extra Strength? Pansy!

  • Trent T
    Dec. 20, 2008 2:09 p.m.

    I think a lot of people are over-reacting about the perceived characters of Miles and Brewer. Sloan knows his players on many different levels better than we do as fans, who only see them in usually two venues - game time performance and interviews. Sloan said so himself in this article that they had bad games. Obviously, he is showing that he believes in their talent and capabilities by still playing them. He is also using his tough love approach to make them earn and keep what they are given. i wish Jazz fans would be more careful about our criticism. I think it influences, to a degree, whether players decide to stay with the jazz after their contract ends. Please show better support for your team and its players.

  • Keith Suds.....
    Dec. 20, 2008 1:12 p.m.

    Get Rid of Boozer and try to sign a man with some of what Karl Malone & John Stockton had and what Paul Milsap has!................. You Figure it out!

  • Keith Suds.....
    Dec. 20, 2008 1:09 p.m.

    CJ Miles is a fabulous athlete, but athleticism alone does not make a comlete NBA Basketball player! He may improve and probably will, but he needs to grow up and be a man, gosh daim'it, he's gettin paid 3 1/2 Million dollars a year. Quit the Silly business CJ!

  • Please Jazz
    Dec. 20, 2008 12:43 p.m.

    No more draft picks on high school wonders PLEASE! Hopefully the NBA will get it right and make it so players need to spend a minimum of 2 years in college before being qualified for the draft. This is a mans game, not meant for those just out of diapers.

  • Re:Re:Re:Miles
    Dec. 20, 2008 12:02 p.m.

    Obsession with KK? Re-read my post. I said he was a 90% free throw shooter. That's it. How is that obsesive? This is the first time I have EVER made a comment about Korver, and the first time I've knocked on Miles.

    How can anyone disagree with me and say that CJ is playing with heart? That would be an out right lie.

    My main point in that post was that we have more then a 2 fast player and 3 slow players. I then made a comment about CJ not playing with heart. Doesn't sound like a KK love letter to me

  • magnus
    Dec. 20, 2008 11:27 a.m.

    Evrybody is making good points about CJ, and I think both sides of this are probably right.

    Miles is right when he says the Jazz are going to need CJ to play 20+ minutes if they really want to be a great team, especially in the playoffs.

    Everybody else is right that CJ has to pick it up and earn those minutes, and the $3.7 mil the Jazz are paying him, by getting after it defensively and sticking his nose in the paint and grabbing some boards once in a while.

    CJ is a great athlete with great skills but he is only a decent player right now. If he will just start bringing it every night I think he will have an oportunity to be a hero more than once this year.

  • Miles & Brewer
    Dec. 20, 2008 11:18 a.m.

    As fans, we expect Miles to be a slacker but we don't expect it from Brewer. If the two of you simply want to be scorers, ask for a trade to Golden State. You don't have to play defense on those teams. Buck up and play some defense so you can get back on the court.

  • Re:Re:Miles@9:32
    Dec. 20, 2008 11:12 a.m.

    Your obvious obsession with K.K. is blinding you. K.K. can stand on his own 2 feet. He doesn't need you continually, obsessively, bashing C. J. Miles to help his popularity. He'll do fine without you.

    Miles ft.% .821

    Korver ft.% .833

    Dec. 20, 2008 11:01 a.m.

    Korver came out in that New Jersey game and earned himself some playing time by running his butt off. Korver only got 7 minutes in Boston so when he got a change to play he took advantage of it. As a result he's now earning more minutes. Same thing with Ronnie Price.
    Brewer has struggled since his Aunt's funeral and that's understandable but he will bounce back and eventually play more again.
    CJ will continue to fall away and blame Sloan for his problems. I agree with The Incredible Sulk. If you saw the interview with CJ after the New Jersey game he was sulking and pouting because the reporter was asking him about losing his starting spot. Imagine what Miles will do when he DOES finally lose his starting job. A job that he never earned to begin with. He's gonna go into his shell again and end up on the bench with Fes! Brewer said he was just happy the Jazz were winning and you can just see the difference in attitude.

  • JazzFan4ever
    Dec. 20, 2008 10:32 a.m.

    I watched the game and did see a difference in CJ.He was focused on the whole battle and not just pulling the trigger.I love CJ and Brewer but they got to work on other parts of the game to stick around in the NBA.MJ was the greatest player, not shooter, he did it all and anything that was needed to win not just score.CJ and Brewer will be fine as long as they realize you have to outwork your opponent on and off the court.There's other young guys out there trying to play in the NBA too working harder than you (or are they? it's up to CJ and Brewer)

  • Is CJ related to Darius ???
    Dec. 20, 2008 10:27 a.m.

    The "Miles bros,,,similar in talent,physically bout the same...Darius and Kobe are very similar all around,as is CJ,big difference is Kobe,and I hate Kobe,is going to win...regardless

  • It's Only A Matter Of Time
    Dec. 20, 2008 9:50 a.m.

    Sloan will keep playing(starting I guess) Miles, but I will bet anyone, anything they want to bet that Miles will eventually play himself of the floor just like others from the recent past. Humphreys, DeShawn Stevenson, the Nevada kid, ect. They were all athletes, but lacked fortitude and desire to excell at this level. C.J. the same thing, package him with Almond and Fess for an expiring contract and get on with what we need to do to compete.

  • bob2
    Dec. 20, 2008 9:51 a.m.

    Ceege and Ronnie should make a pact that they will throw their bodies on the floor at least three times every game.

  • Re: Miles
    Dec. 20, 2008 9:38 a.m.

    Only 2 athletes and 3 slow player? You've got to be kidding me. D-Will may not be the fastest PG in the league, but he is still fast.

    You should really let your Miles fetish go. I'll giv eyou he's got the talent and athletasism(sp), but the guys just doesn't hustle and has no heart.

    That's why he doesn't play at the end. (That and Korver is a 90% free throw shooter. Something VERY valuable at the end of a game

  • Basketball coaches
    Dec. 20, 2008 9:29 a.m.

    often position shooters on the perimeter to open up the middle and pressure zone defenses to come out and guard the perimeter. Let Jerry coach the Jazz and C.J. I think he's knows what he's doing. Then post at the end of the season and let us know what you have learned.

    Dec. 20, 2008 9:12 a.m.

    CJ SULKER Miles. We win and CJ SULKS! Give him a sucker so he don't cry!

  • inside news...
    Dec. 20, 2008 9:10 a.m.

    Betcha Boozer has a bone chip on his knee...you heard it here first!

  • Who's is this guy?
    Dec. 20, 2008 9:06 a.m.

    That's always on here using different screen names that really has it in for C.J. Miles. It really sounds personal, Maybe C.J. ran over his dog or something like that.

    Great win for the Jazz. The guys stepped up really good for a hard fought win. Memo, Paul, Deron, Kyle, Ronnie, Ronnie, Kosta, Matt, Andre, Brevin, C.J. too,(3-5, plus great defense in limited minutes) all contributed. D-Will is back!!!!!! Go Jazz!!!!!!

  • Re :The stander
    Dec. 20, 2008 9:00 a.m.

    have to agree,miles is an expert at standing around and watching instead of moving without the ball,he needs to watch film of Matt Harpring when he was a bit younger

  • Miles
    Dec. 20, 2008 8:52 a.m.

    Old Stink Fing: Good luck winning with your lineup. Two athletes and a bunch of slow players. That should get us 20 wins a year. Korver makes one 3 and you all think he is the second coming of Jordan. Put Korver's numbers up against CJ's numbers and not even a discussion. CJ is so much better. We won't go anywhere in the playoffs without Brewer and CJ getting lots of minutes.

  • Old Stink Fing
    Dec. 20, 2008 8:43 a.m.

    Miles is a waste! Boozer is really Stinky! Milsap is a STUD PLOW HORSE! Williams is better than Kris Pol.
    We Need:
    Kosta K.
    Maybe Brewer
    Maybe Price
    Korver is OK too.
    AK 47 has some great skills (but boneheaded passes t times)

  • From now on....
    Dec. 20, 2008 8:35 a.m.

    CJ Miles will be known as "The Stander" as in always "standing around"

  • Chukar
    Dec. 20, 2008 8:21 a.m.

    Although I agree with you, on the replay you can see that Korver was picked off by a moving screen and was held but still faought thru to try to disrupt the shot. If Brewer or CJ would play with that kind of heart I would bet they would have been in there at the end of regulation. Great fight, great win GO JAZZ

  • Ol' Green Bone
    Dec. 20, 2008 8:04 a.m.

    Korver took a big charge, got some big rebounds and hit a big three (good shot selection within the offense), while CJ was licking his Lolipop on the bench! You can't think with your HOPS or your loliPOPS! This game is played correctly by using the tool that is inside of your head.

  • Ronnie B,great way
    Dec. 20, 2008 7:55 a.m.

    to fight back,great win,I think Korver`s penchant for the big shot is why he was in,other than that,oh,and free throws,Ronnie should be in there,and "miles"....no heart

  • anonymous
    Dec. 20, 2008 7:22 a.m.

    Great win. Just a little curious as to why Sloan left Korver in the game with 2.5 seconds left in regulation as a defensive stopper instead of re-inserting Brewer. Was afraid that it would ultimately come back and haunt the Jazz, but thank goodness it didn't. Just can't figure Sloan out at times not making situational adjustments. Anywayyyy, watch out Bulls!

    Dec. 20, 2008 7:01 a.m.

    I might have been born in the dark but I wasn't born yesterday! Like a divorce it end emotionally before it ends on paper. Hence, Take the money and run Boozer is gone. Whether you like it or not.