they should keep millsap because he actually plays defense
So what else did you expect from Carlos Boozer incorporated, LLC. Has everyone
forgot what he did to his former employer the Cavaliers? In Cleveland they even
have a term for his integrity, BAM-BOOZERED. He made promised to Phil Ford
(Clevelands GM)and stabbed him in the back. Larry Miller will get the same. Even
Coach K questioned his integrity in dealing with the Cavs. Boozer has missed 95
and counting regular season games to injuries that would not have kept John or
Karl off the court. He is just protecting the company brand. His playoff stats
have plummeted faster than the stock market, and he wants more money. Boozer
seems to be borrowing from Jerry McGuire's show me the money, and now it's time
for Jazz fans to say, show us the ring.....
Boozer is not that great. He was the worst player on the Olympic team and
shouldn't have even been on it. He cheated the fans in Cleveland already, so why
would we be surprised now? He won't bring us a title because he is too soft and
misses too many games. He will only become a distraction the closer we get to
the end of the year. We should boot him out of town while we can get something
in return. He shoots his mouth like the Mailman used to do, but the problem is
he can't hold a candle to the mailman's work ethic.
I thought Boozer would be great player, but now days the younger players are
always getting hurt. I don't think the JAZZ ought to keep him, get rid of him.
He misses too many games, and he wants more money. Sounds like one of the
older players from years ago. His pay ought to get reduced for every game that
Boozer is a good player, but I think Millsap is a much better option at PF for
this franchise. Millsap has shown recently that he can put up Boozer like
number, while playing better defense and way more hustle points that don't show
up on the stat sheet. Yeah, it would be nice to have depth, but I think Millsap
is the kind of player that should be playing the majority of the minutes anyway.
Even if the Jazz had to pay Millsap the same amount they would pay Boozer I
would choose Millsap. It's a no brainer if you get Millsap for less.
my knee cap hurts.
He may have gone to Duke but he sure did not get a degree in public
relations.Lets see, ME sat out for 1/3 of the games the Jazz have
paid ME to play. Look at ME because ME currently on the bench again
and ME tired of people ignoring ME. ME tell myself everyday ME wake up that "ME
a big star". ME need more attention because the world revolves around ME!Yup!!!! ME sit on bench but sound like good time to talk about ME and MY
plans about ME "getting a raise".The economy is in the tank but not
for ME!ME! ME! ME! ME! ME! ME! ME! ME! ME! ME! ME! ME! ME! ME!
ME! ME! ME! ME! ME! ME! ME! ME! ME! ME! ME! ME! ME! ME! ME! ME! ME!
ME! ME! ME! ME! ME! ME! ME! ME! ME! ME likey more money because ME
work so hard talking about ME all the time!!!ME tired of talking
about ME right now but don't worry ME do it again later!!Love,ME!!
So long Carlos, it's been good to know you, well sort of. Actually, it was very
little. In your physical for the next team they had better check for bed sores.
I am not convinced that Boozer is leaving. Everyone knew he would opt out to
make more money regardless if he leaves or not. However, I am not all that
concerned either. I will not pretend the Jazz are better without him cause they
clearly are not, but, I also love Millsap and his attitude and toughness a lot
better and by getting rid of that contract, maybe we got get some other pieces
to the puzzle. We just need to keep D Will in a Jazz uniform and Millsap and
build the team around them. We will see what happens with AK and Memo later.
If the Jazz lose Boozer...Good riddance!!! I have always preferred Millsap to
Boozer. Boozer is inconsistent and a lot less talented than everything seems to
think. The only reason he scores as much as he does is because the offense is
continually centered around him. Anyone can score 20 pts a game if they are
given the opportunity to score every trip down the court. Millsap scores mainly
off of offensive rebounds!
Just like in the Olympics when he was IRRELAVANT he started talking about Miami,
the owner, and playing with Wade.Now Boozer has become IRRELEVANT
once again because Millsap has made everyone forget Boozer was born, so now he
wants to be noticed so he makes this announcement.The stupid
statements these athletes make about "financial decisions" for them and their
family. Are you kidding? After sitting on the bench for the remainder of his
non-playing jazz career, he really needs to be talking about his financial
decisions that he will be making in 5 months???This guys head is as
overinflated as his offensive stats are.He did not need to discuss
this as basically everyone knew that it would happen but since Booz does not get
any press like his team mates did in the comeback win--he needs to shoot off his
mouth about taking care of his family and stick it in the face of everyone that
he is getting a raise? Ya, just what everyone in this down economny needs to
here.One could only dream he met the same fate as Barry Bonds.
Perhaps they could meet and compare inflated egos.
The Jazz gave him the Player Option. Why wouldn't he use it??
Now that we know Boozer wont be a jazz player for long, any good trade ideas
anyone wants to throw out there?
...were apparently too much for Boozer to stomach. Why else would he talk about
leaving now? His ego seems to be as tender as his hammy!
Boozer is one of the biggest wusses to play basketball for the Jazz. This is a
proud organization with a bunch of tough players in past years. Stockton and
Malone I'm sure are ashamed to see such a wuss play. Jazz should let him go 1)
because he is hurt an average of 20 games a year he has already missed over 100
games with the Jazz! 2) The Jazz are all about team players. Players that
normally don't make it big anywhere else make it very well on the Jazz because
they are team players and work hard. Example Matt Harpring. He wasn't super
successful on other teams but he has found great success in Utah. Boozer is not
a team player one bit. Let him go.
Who cares we have Milsap. Milsap has shown that we don't need loser. Let the
loser go and Milsap will pick up the slack plus we can get another good player
and sign the others that will be free agents. Hope the loser enjoys wherever he
goes, when he played he was fun to watch. Too bad he doesn't have Malone's
heart, if he did Carlos would be one of the greats of all time, but he doesn't
and years from now hardly anyone will even remember who Carlos Boozer was.
Don't worry. Check out Boozer and Millsap's +/- numbers for when they're on and
off the court. Kirilenko's numbers are always the best on the team, but Millsap
is not far behind at a net of +12.0 when he's on the court. Boozer is at -5.5.
I think the Jazz will be all right.
Millions of Americans go to work hurt everyday and then go home and there is no
food to eat and Looser wants a raise. Need another Lamborghini Loooze. The only
raise you will be getting will be out the door.
I think Milsap, with a little more experience will be a better player than
Boozer ever was or ever hoped to be. Paul Milsap is on his way to the hall of
fame I'm thinking.I don't have any faith in Boozer anymore, even if he
stepped on the floor in the next game, I've lost all respect for him. He may be
taking care of his business and his body but when I think about him and what
happened with the Cavaliers, I get antsy. His body that he takes such
great care of sure is injury prone is what I'm thinking. Maybe I'm wrong, maybe
I'm right. I just want the Jazz to win it all.
Booz is gone. It wouldn't surprise me if the Jazz already had something lined up
with another team and they are just waiting until he is fully healthy in order
to pull the trigger. No player in the league would be so cautious with this type
of injury without something in the works. I say send him to Miami in exchange
for Udonis Haslem and Michael Beasley (the contracts match up). I believe that
Haslem is nearing the end of his contract, so that would free up about $7
million to resign Millsap with next year (especially with the subtractions of
Collins, Fesenko, and Almond after this season). We would get Beasley at a
bargain price with his rookie scale contract. Though I have been impressed with
Koufos, having both Haslem/Beasley would also allow us to send him to the
D-League where he can get some extra court time and develop his game more fully.
If my memory serves me right, Haslem is a pretty good defender, too, so we could
keep him on and have Millsap, Okur, Koufos, Beasley, and Haslem work a five-man
rotation at the 4-5 spots next year.
If we are so good without Boozer, then why are we a mediocre team while he has
been out? I know he is money hungry, and injury prone, and a wanna-be super
star, but he was a HUGE free agent signing for us. We hadn't seen a big time
player like him willingly sign with Utah for a long time (I don't count Karl and
John). I'm just saying don't bank on players like Bosh to truly consider Utah.
We've got a great one with Boozer, so lets try to keep him. The
fact is we shouldn't have signed CJ to that deal, and then we would have money
for both Millsap and Boozer (who we need). CJ has played well enough, but we
could get the same thing from Price and Almond for less money.
I worry that a big contract for Milsap may make him dissapear. Currently he's
working hard and doing great but it seems like whenever we get a great year out
of a player we give them a big contract and then they just get lazy and
disapear.Think about it...-Ostertag had a few big playoff
games, we decided he was the shaque-stopper and gave him a big contract and
never got another good game out of him.-AK had the all-star season,
we wanted to keep him and gave him the big contract and haven't had a season
like that from him since.It seems to happen a lot. I'm glad D-Will
has done nothing but improve despite our obvious intention to pay him whatever
it takes to keep him and make him our 'franchise player'.Milsap is
doing great currently but it wouldn't take much of a let down after a big
contract for him to become a big disapointment we are stuck with for many years.
If he can keep the intensity up after getting the big contract it will be worth
it, but how knows. Milsap with an "I-got-it-made" attitude could be bad
Trade booz, and collins for Vince Carter. He was a stud last night.The Jazz
would give the Lakers a fit! Hahahaha
A raise? Seriously after this year? Good luck princess.
6`8', 250lbs of muscle, is undersized???? ,what are all you morons
thinking,undersized for what??? to grab 10 boards a night??? lots of great
players his size,sir charles was about 6`4'',was he undersized ???????Emeka
Okafor is 5 pounds heavier,and maybe an inch taller,we have our Okafor, his name
is Paul Millsap
I'll take a 15-10 guy + DEFENSE over a 20-10 guy with 0 defense any day. With
defense your 15-10 guy will more than make up the 5 point difference by way of
shot blocking, steals, floor presence and motivating others to play tough. ANY
DAY!!!!!!!!!!HIT THE ROAD JACK I mean LOOZZZER.
I don't have a problem with a guy trying to maximize his worth but if you feel
that way get your butt out on the court and prove it consistently night in and
night out.Hey Kevin O'Connor why prolong the inevitable?? Trade him
to Miami now for Marion. We would instantly become the most athletic team in
the NBA let alone a much better defensive team. Let Booze go to South Beach
where he belongs!!
he really speaks from experience,and really "KNOWS IT ALL",yea right
You could see this one coming, especially if the wife doesn't like Utah.Lets see how Booze does in any other system and with other point guards its
not going to be pick and roll and your the first option, he will disappear just
like so many other players after they left the jazz for those Big Bucks. I think
the writting was on the wall after he watched Millsap take over his
double/doubles and PLAY DEFENSE.
GET OUT OF HERE! I AM SO SICK OF YOUR WHINING! O MY QUAD! O THIS HURTS! O THAT
HURTS! HAVE FUN IN MIAMI WHILE MILLSAP WHO ACTUALLY ISNT A LITTLE GIRL AND LIVES
THE DREAM, AND PLAYS FOR PRIDE, NOT MONEY ENDS UP BEING TWICE THE PLAYER YOU
WILL EVER BE BY THE END OF BOTH OF YOUR CAREERS! HAVE FUN IN MIAMI. CANT WAIT
TIL YOU PLAY IN UTAH AND MILLSAP SHOWS YOU UP BIG TIME!
I totally agree with the comment about the Zions Bank Commercial. Every time it
comes on I cringe and think that Zions must be really wishing they picked
somebody else as their sponsor.
Since Boozer has joined the Jazz, the team has played in 355 regular season
games. Boozer has played in 250 of those games. Boozer has missed well over 100
games. At $182,000 per game, The Jazz have literally thrown away TWENTY MILLION
DOLLARS to watch #5 sit on the bench. History has a way of repeating itself. The
Jazz orginization and fan base has not seen the end of these injuries (Foot,
quad, leg, and hamstring). Boozer opting out is good news. Boozer will get you
20-10, but he will cripple the team on the defensive end of the court.Trade Boozer for Al Jefferson, if the T-Wolves were that naive, and then sign
Millsap. Boozer will leave the Jazz with a bitter taste, just as he did with the
Cavs. Whoever signs Boozer will get a good offensive effort, a pathetic
defensive effort, and a plethora of injuries. Good luck Miami
Good Riddance, maybe we can spend the money we pay him and get someone who can
actually play better defense than Charles Barkley, and i mean Barkley now
(380+), not when he was in playing shape. B-Loser is, without question, the
worst defensive player in the league, his effort on that end of this court is,
at best, embarassing. And I am sure it drives a defensive minded coach like
Jerry insane. Good luck to him in Miami, maybe he won't be on IR as much for
them as he is for us.
Boozer is a Tool and a Big Baby when it comes to playing injured. He is sure no
Karl Malone. The Jazz are a Joke and I am selling my seasons off because the
price is not 500.00 per ticket per game and not worth the money anymore.
I think the jazz need to get rid of boozer, he can't take any pain that comes
from playing basketball. Basketball is a physical game and as big as he is he
should be the one causing pain not getting pain. Having said that whom could
the jazz get via trade for him. Millsap does a great job as a replacement but
the jazz need another post player that scores really well with his back to the
basket. Anyone got any real ideas that would work.
How can Boozer be a top 3 PF in the league when he sits out with a boo boo? Come
on! Right now Boozer is in the Jermaine O'Neal category: great player you can't
count on. Honestly, I would rather trade Boozer at 60 cents on the dollar for a
good backup center and point. Keep AK as the backup PF and even give Harp
minutes at the 4. At least you know you will get EFFORT out of them. The
goodwill Boozer gained since his foot and hamstring issues is gone and he can
only blame himself.
WHATEVER the Jazz do, it'll make them better in the long run--keeping, trading,
or releasing Boozer. They're smart enough to make sure they have the right
pieces in place going forward.Think about it: Knight for Hart;
Korver for ... (what was his name--how quick we forget the forgettable), and so
on. They keep making good decisions.The Jazz front office will come
out of this year smelling like a rose. A championship isn't that far off. A
little more maturity and continuity and this team will be unbeatable.
Oh, no. Who will set next to Fresinko the rest of the year?
"Delusional fans" you are only partially right. Because of the impending free
agent class of 2010 and teams desire to clear cap room expiring contracts are
very valuable right now, it is conceivable that a team (like say, the Bobcats)
would trade a quality player with several years left on a large contract (like
Gerald Walace) for an expiring contract like Boozers. It is also
concievable that this could backfire for Boozer. At the end of the
season if his minutes have been reduced because of Paul Millsaps emergence and
the teams that have cap space don't want to spend it because they would rather
wait for players like Lebron and Bosh next year then he could be looking at a
pay cut, or a contract similar to what Emeka Okafor just signed, rather than a
pay raise. Maybe that is why this came up now, Boozer saw the
writing on the wall and was afraid that if he didn't get the trade wheels in
motion that he may be looking at a season that will hurt his value more than
help it.Thats pure speculation but it seems to make sense to me.
1-Tim Duncan (some consider him a center)2-Chris Bosh3-Carlos
Boozer4-Pau Gasol5-Elton Brand (when he is not hurt)Amare is not on the list cause he is a center.Boozer will get a
lot of offers, the Jazz have some decisions to make in the off-season.
Re-signing him would be huge, despite what a lot of incompetent fans may say.
Williams is the face of the franchise though and as long as he is here, the Jazz
just need to give him a good supporting cast to go contend for the title. By the way, enough with the sick day, getting a raise comparison, and
those of you that played your rec leagues and church ball, I will pretend I did
not even read your comments. Jazz fans have some of the most competent
basketball fans, but on this post day in and day out, some of the most
incompetent as well. He is not faking an injury, him opting out made sense, we
all knew he would because if it is not the Jazz, someone will pay him more.
What is the big deal? He did not announce that he is leaving. Chill out!
I like Boozer and he's free to make the business decision he feels is in his
best interest. Interesting trade options that have crossed my mind and
probably mentioned in these forums are:Kaman - probably my #1
choice. Might make Okur expendable also. He can score and defend.....then
draft Tyler Hansborough.....kind of a Harpring/Millsap/Boozer mix to help backup
Millsap.Camby - awesome defender but getting old.Bogut - less
athletic but better defender and passer.Pryzbilla - great defender (might
need the Raef Laf contract also). Haven't worked out the contract
details and other stuff to make it work but those 4 come to mind. Even Zaza
Pachulia and change from Atlanta wouldn't to be bad. If I did a little research
I could find some other good options. A. Stoudemire would be intriguing but his
temperament might not be quite right........Anyways should be interesting....may
be an interesting February.
Please, please, please trade someone for him right now! He is going to leave and
we are not going to get anything for him. Give Millsap about six times what he
is making right now and bring in another power forward defender. Turiaf or Bosh
would be a welcome sight.
We don't need Boozer, just sign Chicago fan, what a stud. A little league hero.
What about my Boozer jersey? Will I need to buy a new one? :( And I
named my dog after Booze a few years ago - back when we all liked Booze (my dog
is pretty tuff). I don't think he will respond to a new name now.For my
sake - can we keep Booze please? Maybe I should have a talk with him about the
damage it will do to me personally. :)I still like Boozer and wish
him the best whatever he does. A few years from now we will all forgive him. I
don't see too many people dissing Malone and as I recall, he left for the
greener grass too. He found out it wasn't all that green. Booze will realize
that too.Yes he needs to be playing - but questioning his judgement
on whether he is at 100% is not our place, unless you're his doc. Would we be
happy if he came back to play too early and ended up doing major damage?Nobody was yelling at Williams to get back out there. Why we all hatin'
now? Supportng him would be a lot more useful to us in the end.
Peace out Boozer. I'm glad that in today's economy with so many people,
companies and organizations struggling, that you think it's all right to say
$12.7 million dollars isn't enough. You've spent a good portion of you time in a
Jazz uniform on the bench. You aren't worth that kind of money.
Market Research Idications. All this chump cares about is getting paid.
This one time I played a church ball game with a broken ankle, dislocated
shoulder and a black eye. If I could do it why can't he? K on a serious note
now, I am going to pretend I did not just read your comment.
Now that we know he is leaving...the Jazz are going to have to start finding a
rotation that can compete and win without Boozer. We can't expect him to return
to 20-10 a night just cause he is back on the court and gets handed 35-38
starting minutes again. Prima Dona days should be over.Take Boozer out of the
equation and establish a main rotation with Boozer as a backup..
When he does get back they should play him less minutes and get someone else
numbers and minutes up so Boozer is less valuable to sign a new contract. The
Jazz can offer a lower contract and keep him at a bargain. Okur, Kirlenko, and
Millsap have been more effective with longer minutes anyway. Boozer will have
to work harder in 28 minutes a game to keep his stats up. That will motivate
Boozer to get back in and play defense and make himself more valuable. He needs
to try to compete with his own teamates to get his minutes back.
If you remember, when the Jazz signed Memo and when they signed Boozer, the
media thought they were both extremely over paid, and because it was Salt Lake,
would always have to pay more for quality players. Memo turned out to be worth
his salary. Boozer got attention only because of the Jazz system, he will be
like a lot of other Jazz players who left and slip into being a mediocore
player, unless he happens to be in a system where they run sets and he his the
stud, and I don't think that will happen. Millsap on the other hand is a stud.
Keep Memo, Millsap, Korver and even AK's big salary and the Jazz will be just
I agree with all the fans calling for B(L)ooser to be accountable. Can youImagine Stockton or Malone sitting out with a bruise? I played in a little
league baseball game with a broken arm and a softball game after getting drilled
in the face (breaking several bones). This guy is a pansy. What a disgrace to
what Karl and John built.
I used to laugh at the sky-is-falling trade-boozer-now lunatics on here, but he
is really doing his best to push me into that very category of posters.
Memo to Jazz Management:The Jazz fans realize there wll never be a
CHAMPIONSHIP in Utah.AT LEAST, get players in here that will work
and play hard for what they are paid.BOOZER represents ALL that is
wrong with the NBA.
Do none of us remember how we acquired Boozer in the first place? He pulled a
fast one on the Cavs, he'll pull a fast one on the Jazz. Are we really
surprised? Really, there's no need to feel sleighted or angry, we knew this was
coming, that's the type of person he is, we knew all of this coming into the
The real question is what the Jazz can get when they sign and trade Boozer this
summer. Milsap will get $5-6 Mil and Okur "might" opt out. So can the Jazz sign
and trade Boozer for a solid backup PG and PF?
If I read one more comment about comparing sick days to injuries and asking your
boss for a raise, I'm going to get sick myself.You are a complete
idiot if you think that Boozer's situation is in any way comparable to you
asking for a raise from YOUR boss. Of course boozer is in a position to get a
raise and he should do it.
Booze is soft; plays zero defense; left Cleveland with stink all over him; has
never shown any sign that it's about team (only the money - going to get mine);
won't play when he has a hang nail and some find it offesive or are surprised by
this announcement?? Here's hoping that Jazz management offers less money than
he's currently making (perhaps make up for all the games he hasn't played) and
is no where near a max offer. Let Miami over pay for his services. Hope the
hang nail heals soon Booze.
Boozer is not playing right now because his stat line will not look good not
being 100%. He already pads his stats against patsy opponents. I lost my
respect for boozer when he was punked by a weaker Gasol in the playoffs last
year. BOOZER RHYMES WITH LOOOZER!!!
I knew this was going to happen we should have traded him when he was worth
You people on here calling for a trade are delusional. Why would any team in
the NBA trade for Boozer's contract when he becomes an unrestricted free agent.
I know it's bad to get nothing for him, but he is untradeable because no team
would give anything valuable up for half a season of Boozer. He is opting out
of his contract at the end of the season to test free agency, which means his
current contract is useless to any other team. Here's how it will play out:
some team will offer him crazy money during the off season; the Jazz will not
match; we will be out 20 and 10 next season with nothing to show for it.
Millsap is a fine young player, but he isn't a go-to guy. He isn't the second
coming of Barkley. Get a good look right now of the Boozer-less Jazz, they are
barely above .500 because they don't have a low post presence. Guess that's the
downside of a contract where the player can opt out and become an unrestricted
free agent: no guarantees for the team that signed him (it happens, look around
the league - Elton Brand)
Instead of trading Boozer which will hurt the team, go get a defensive big now
and waive Collins. If the Jazz are ever going to get a championship, this is the
year. The only reason that they won't get it is because the Jazz
will not go get the players to do it, this year. The Jazz are going to rebuild
next year anyway. The Sloan system requires players who have a lot
of playing time in it (but how much longer will Sloan coach)? That means paying
to much for veteran players and not developing your young players faster. That
means the Jazz are always missing the player who is needed for a
championship.The Jazz need to grad a ring this year by spending a
little extra money and then rebuild next year. The primary reason
the Jazz do not have a ring is the management, their unwillingness to get the
resources necessary to win.SA wins on the cheap but they are an
exception. The Jazz management and the rest of the league are not as good as
I hope Boozer's degree from Duke wasn't a business degree. Seems kind of foolish
to make a statement like that, and assume (outloud even) that you will get a
raise, in the middle of a streak of missed games that has gone on way too long.
He obviously is in no hurry to get back and help his team. What team
would want him now? And for more money than the current contract he doesn't
deserve?I think he should be more worried about getting his spot
back from Millsap if he ever does return.
We all knew he would opt out. He can get a bigger contract. This does not mean
he plans on leaving the Jazz, just looking to get more money. At this point I
just say let the chips fall where they may. He is a valuable piece to out team
but I will not sit around and fret, worrying if he will be back. The Jazz have
a great organization and they will get someone else if he leaves. Great win
last night by the way after a pathetic start.
Boozer is an absolute bum and an idiot to boot. Why would anybody who continues
to not play because of an injury which in everyone's mind, should have been
healed by now, make a statement that when the season was over he was going to
look elsewhere to play. What a great signal to send to your teammates and fans!
Knowing Sloan and in light of how he handled his starters and bench players last
night, Boozer may have played his last game with Utah. If that is the case, see
how much he will be worth on the open market next year. What a LOOSER!!!!!
"a little sore" what a whimp! I wish I could afford to stay home when I felt a
This is all posturing. It is a business. The Jazz are no more loyal to Boozer
than he is to them. Besides why would he want to stay in Utah with all of the
Boo Birds on his case. Why would Boozer want to risk his career and
come back early just to appease some whinny fans who will just mock his lack of
production and defense while he plays hurt? You all sound like the Houston fans
and McGrady.The Jazz will do what they did last time. They will go
get a developing PF who wants to move and for reasonable, or they will use their
resources to get a lottery pick and go for a top PF who can develop fast
(probably not). They also can develop Koufos faster and try to play him at back
up PF and C. However, I think Koufos needs time to develop his inside moves. SAP
can't back down players and draw the double team like Boozer, neither can
Koufos.The team runs much better with Boozer because he has skills
that open the floor for Okur and others. Without Boozer the team is less
Bozer had no loyalty to Cleveland, what makes you think he would have any with
the Jazz? He is a good player, who will play for only the highest bidder.
Magnus you are rightThe Jazz can't let Boozer walk and sign a player
over the mid-level exception - but 95 percent of the teams can't sign boozer
over the mid-level exception.The only way to get something in return
is if the player is better than Boozer and who ever else we have to lose (Okur,
Millsap, Hapring or Korver)or to sign someone cheaper to a team under the cap.
Trading Boozer for Jefferson - Minnisota does not work because we
are essentially trading Boozer and Millsap or Okur for Jefferson because if we
sign Jefferson we can't afford Millsap and OkurLet say the Jazz sign
Boozer to a 6 year deal (similar to the Arenas deal) and sign Millsap to a Memo
type deal (the deal we gave Memo to get him from Detroit) and Okur opts out and
we don't offer a contract. We then trade Boozer and and NYC first round to
Toronto for Bosh. Why would Toronto do this. Because Bosh can opt out at the
end of 2010 season and this give them a player for 6 years to run with Calderon
and a 10 ten pick.
Boozer: Fragile Body, Fragile MindThe Jazz should have traded him
last season. Boozer isn't going to do much in the league...his best years are
behind him.Dear Jazz,Sign Millsap for what he deserves
and give Carlos Boozer the boot.
Nothing more then lip service when we hear players say how much they want to
win a title. What it comes down to is that the mighty $$$$$$ always wins out.
Boozer is no different.
Boozer is not worth talking about. Let's talk about the big raise Milsap
DESERVES, not the raise Boozer DOES'T Deserve. If he comes back to play this
season, I would keep him on the pine in order to lower his value. That way
he'll get a smaller contract or go to Europe. The guy just isn't worth worrying
I don't know enough about how trades work out but I like this scenario. Trade
the Booz along with one of our shooting guards for Al Horford and whatever comes
along with him. Horford is another Millsap but in a larger body. If you have
those two guys on your team you will never be outworked.
HELP WANTEDEmployee who works limit hours and for outrageous pay.
Needs to be able to take many sick days "unexpectedly". Can not work if any
part of your body hurts or is sore.Must be able to stand pay and watch
someone do your job better than you for tenth of the pay.Pay range 10-12
Yes Boozer would opt out. If anyone else was in his situation they would do the
same thing. If Malone, Stockton where in Boozer situation right now they would
opt out. If Okur, Williams, Millsap, Kirilenko, Me, You, a toaster oven were in
Boozer situation we would also opt out. You would have to be an idiot not to
opt out. A really big idiot. Boozer is not doing anything under-handed,
sneaky, of devious. Anyone with half a brain knew that he was going to opt out.
Memo is going to opt out at the end of the season also. It is OK/
Did anyone happen to see the list of potential free agents in 2010? In addition
to LeBron and D-Wade, guys like Bosh (who I would take over Booz in a second),
Amare Stoudemire, Ginobli, Nowitzki, Nash, Paul Pierce, Ray Allen, and many
others are on that list. That's why the Knicks are dumping salary and other
teams are going to do the same thing.So here's what we do. Let
Boozer walk and give Millsap a couple million (a huge raise for him). That still
frees up a bunch of money which makes the Jazz players in the 2010 offseason.
Why wouldn't they be able to attract a top level player to spend the next 6
years running with Deron Williams?
how good does your knee need to be to stand around and shoot 15 ft jump shots
and watch your apponents go by you for layups? the whimp. if he ever mans up and
starts playing this season, the jazz need to try and trade him for some body
that can make a difference in our team this year. if they can't trade him they
should only use him as a back-up to Millsap, that way his value will drop and if
we're forced to keep him we can re-sign him for less.yah right dream on,
guaranteed contracts will be the end of the NBA.
It isn't worth letting Okur and Korver go to keep boozer. The two of the are
worth much more than boozer. Trade him for some assets and picks and move on.
I like Boozer but he is not a championship caliber player. Are the Jazz better
when he plays, sure. But it won't be the end of the world to see him leave. He
isn't as valuable to the jazz as he thinks he is.
boozer was a great addition to the jazz. since he has been out milsaps has
stepped it up. He tour up the world champs the celtics so that says something
for him. Boozer will be missed but milsaps will easily replace him
Any one know of any teams looking to clear up cap space this next season in
hopes of landing Lebron? Maybe deal him to the Cavs for Anderson Varejao or
another type of effort player. How awesome would that be to force Boozer to
play with the Cavs for at least half a season before he opts out of his current
contract? The good thing about it is that Carlos could just tell himself that
the boos are really just Cavs fans forgiving him and showing him the love once
First off, Boozer is no Karl Malone in any sense of the word. He definitely
should be playing but he is worried about his future contract. The days of
players playing through pain are over. Second, lets as a group of Americans stop
complaining about player salaries. We live under a system called capitalism (an
inequitable system at best). Rest assured that owners - usually corporate owners
- can afford to pay those salaries and if they cant, they sell the team.
Complaining about salaries is stupid and short-sighted. Finally, because of his
history of saying one thing and doing another, the Jazz should trade Boozer,
right away in fact, to the Knicks for Curry and a Knick pick! Of course we need
to remember that O'Conner is incompetent and we will lose Boozer with nothing in
return. If anyones salary should be cut its O Conners!
Trade him and Almond to Memphis for Rudy Gay and Darko Milicic. Let Boozer watch
the playoffs from home this season.
He is Opting out of playing why wouldn't he Opt out of his contract.
Boozer has the work ethic of a sloth and makes Ostertag look like a hard worker.
Give Millsap a big raise and use the rest to go get another PF. At this point
anyone will do better than a wussy boy sitting behind the bench in a suit.
I think it is time to consider signing Milsap to a multi year contract and trade
away Boozer before the end of the season to get value in return. Milsap can slip
in nicely to Boozers spot and we can trade away Booze to address other
weaknesses on the team and get a player to fill that spot.
The Jazz should trade Boozer and try to get a physical, defensive minded center
in return. The thing that worries me about Millsap is he's undersized and I
don't think he can keep going on being effective against bigger guys and playing
starters minutes at PF. Provided the Jazz can move Boozer in a trade, I think
the they should start AK at the 3 spot, move Okur to starter at the 4, and let
Millsap come in off the bench and fill in at the forward and center positions.
The economy is going to hit home with professional athletes in about six months.
Oh they won't be starving but fans not buying tickets will reduce the payout to
athletes. Boozer does not draw in crowds. I bet he ends up getting less by
Unfortunately the Jazz are a 6 seed in the playoffs this year. Out in the first
round. Just don't have the horsepower for the West.
All of us have worked around someone like Boozer, very self-important, a legend
in his own mind. Sorry Booz but you aint all that. There seems to be more and
more 20 and 12 type players in the NBA lately and for the money--you are easily
More money for sitting around 1/3 the time. In his Jazz "career" he has missed
1/3 of his games. Heck of a contract. This Jazz fan isn't interested in people
who get paid to NOT play.
"Prima Donna", not "Pre-Madonna". Carlos Boozer may be many things, but a
female pop singer is not one of those things. "Prima Donna" is Italian for
"first lady", and originated in opera companies where the first lady was the
star of the show, and, consequently, tended to be a bit of a head case.*cue the music* The more you know...
How about a deal straight across for Emeka Okafor
Why would Jazz management be suprised by this. It's the same trick he played on
his last team (He was 'injured' and didn't play for them for most of his last
season. They thought he was comming back to sign and play for them next season
and he snuck out behind their back and signed with the Jazz). It's just the way
Why would Booze say this right now? It just goes to show that he has never been
a team player. I think these comments will alienate the team. If the Captain,
only cares about himself and his fat contract, what will the rest of the team
feel? Hopefully Sloan and Willy will bring this team together and be the true
rock for this team to build. We all thought Booze was going to be a great
foundation to build this team on, all he ended up being was weak marshmallow. He
never has bought into the team first mentality. He is a duesch!!
He's not exactly revealing anything that everyone didn't already know. But
c'mon Booz, could your timing be any worse?! The classy thing to do is not say
anything about it until after the season is over - just keep deferring the
reporter's questions with the standard "we'll worry about that when the season's
over, right now I just want to win." Instead he starts piping about a raise 2
months into the season, while his team is on a road trip, slightly slumping
without him, and while he is sitting out yet again with a minor injury that Karl
Malone would've brushed off on his way to another 30-10 night. Boozer's
publicist has got to be kicking himself right now...
While he may help the Jazz (when he actually plays), I don't know if he will be
worth the money since he does not have a good record of playing with minor
injuries (hang nails and such) :) Honestly, Look how many games he has missed
the last 4-5 years, is that worth almost max money along with all the drama!
More importantly, the Jazz can not afford Williams, Boozer AND
Millsap next year, so someone has to go! Millsap has a lot more growth and
upside potential (including defense) at 1/2 the price, so I say let Boozer go as
we all know he is not the better value for cost and he would rather be somewhere
Let's see, crumbling economy,the AFL just decided not to play in 09, we are
losing jobs at a rapid rate, the NBA is struggling to fill arena's and someone
who has missed what 30 pecent of the games he has been with the jazz wants a
raise? I think I'm going to go ask my boss for a raise right now. I wonder what
his response will be?? I guess Booz wants his own bail out plan. This could be
interesting to see if anyone offers more than 12 million to him if this economy
doesn't get better. I'm sure there are some owners who don't want to lose their
shirt on overpriced wimps! If the Jazz can't trade him now or do a sign and
trade, then sign him, at market value and then trade him as soon as he is
eligible to be traded. Same thing with Memo, Milsap and Brewer. That may put us
in the luxury tax range until you dump a few salaries, however, I can't see just
letting people walk without getting something in return. Booz for Marion and a
draft pick? At least we would have someone who could play defense!
I can't stand this pre-madonna! He is the biggest wimp I am ever seen. Karl
Malone wouldn't have missed 1 game over this injury and this wimp has missed
over a month. This all being said, he makes a statement like "I am
opting out...but I want to stay with the Jazz"?! What a selfish punk! That commercial for Zions bank he is in...he doesn't represent any of those
words: trust, determination, loyalty, my ass Boozer!Boozer you
SUCK...opt out...pack your shiz...and get out of Utah!
Admittedly, pulling off a good trade in this situation will be tricky. However,
there always seem to be decent players out there who don't "fit" with their
team, and might make a good trade for us. Look at how we got Korver last year!
For Giricek! Our best bet at a trade would be to take on an expiring contract
combined with a role player whom O'Conner feels would help the Jazz. I bet
O'Conner is targeting Miami (Boozer's "home") and Orlando, in order to try to
place Boozer where he'll want to resign this offseason. Orlando might give up a
few good guys if they are confident Boozer will resign with them. Of course,
all teams should be hesitant of any "promise" Boozer might make to resign after
a trade is proposed!
Maybe he will look better sitting on Knicks bench than he does the Jazz bench,
let the "waste of skin"go!
Booooooorrrrrring! This is NOT big news and the world is not coming to an end.
Let's focus on the guys who are working/playing hard and earning their $$$$, who
show up and appear to have loyalty to their fans/teammates/coaches/owner/etc. We
have some incredible young men on this Jazz team and need to spend our emotions
supporting them and not moaning about the slackers. Go Jazzboys!!! That game
last night showed HEART!!!
Both are 2nd round picks. One has made good, the other better. Boozer gets
hurt a bit here and there, but when healthy is a beast. Millsap has shown in
Boozer's absence that he's a solid 15-10 guy that doesn't need the ball to be
effective. I can't say the same about Carlos, he needs touches to get his.
Defensively, Millsap wins out, but is more foul-prone than Boozer. The biggest
drawback to letting Boozer go is losing 21-23 points per night. I don't know if
Millsap can replace the scoring, but he can definitely cover in the other areas.
My guess is Millsap can be retained for 5-6 years and $65 million. Boozer
would be more in the neighborhood of 6 years, $110 million (using the last year
of his current contract as a starting point). With decisions on Okur, Brewer,
and others coming, I think the Jazz will pull the trigger and keep Millsap,
letting Boozer walk to Miami or wherever he wants to go, unless another team
offers Millsap some outrageous sum in the $80 mil neighborhood. Then we would
bite the bullet on Boozer and pay the six-figures deal and lose Millsap.
Yeah who is this Carlos Boozer fella? Isn't he that tall white guy who never
gets to play? Oh no... I've just been informed that's not Boozer and apparently
I've offended some guy named Fesenko. I still don't see the difference, sorry.
Dude is missing games because his knee is a bit sore, but felt great in
practice? And he is telling the country he going to go ahead and get a raise?
What?!?!The Jazz would be better with 24, 5, & 13 all signed and
PLAYING. But if 5 is not going to play when he is a bit sore, might be time to
let him go and play Koufos more behind Milsap & Memo.Is Boozer an
extremely slow healer, have a low pain threshhold, or what? I'm curious. He
comes across as just being soft.
I'm pretty sure none of you guys have any idea what the NBA Salary cap rules
are so I'm going to help you not to look stupid.If the Jazz do not
trade Boozer and he opts out they will still be over the cap and will not be
able to sign anyone making over $5 Mil a year (mid level exception), They just
can't, so stop dreaming.The only way the Jazz could gain the cap
space to be a player in the 2010 free agent market is to let Memo and Millsap
walk along with Boozer. Or they would have to let Boozer walk and move AK in a
straight Salary dump, I just don't see that happening.So basically
what I am saying is that you can just stop talking about signing or trading for
guys like Chris Bosh and Amare Staudamire because their teams would never trade
them. You have to look at guys who are not the foundation of their current team
or are unhappy and asking for trade.And you can stop talking about
signing a big name free agent because the Jazz don't, and won't, have the cap
space to do it.
Jazz ahould sue him for non-performance, and not let him near the EAS this year.
Who is Carlos Boozer?
Let him go! See you later Loozer!!!!!!!!!!!!
When you cheat on your spouse, i.e. Cleveland, it rarely works out with the one
you cheated with. Boozer is showing his true colors. A championship is the
last thing on his mind.
Sorry folks, but there will be no trading of Boozer. Why would anybody trade
for him? All they have to do is wait 7 months and then sign him without having
to give up any players.
Let him goooooo!!!! we dont need him!!! keep Milsap, bring Bosh and Carter!!!
Just another guy who can't feed his family with that paltry 68 million...The average guy out there lives a normal life with a strained quadricep
tendon and this guy can't suit up and play SOME MINUTES?PATSY!!!!I think he's hearing all the praise that Millsap is earning, and feeling
a little hurt and guilty for not busting his butt like the rest of the team. So
in order to be back in the headlines he drops the "bomb". Boozer,
this is a blue collar team and coach. Admit it. You can't hang! You're tired of
getting your butt kicked in practice by Millsap so you want to take your marbles
and go play somewhere else. SEE YA!!!
Boozer's "injury" is making it impossible to trade him. If he gets back on the
court, consider that his audition for a number of suitors.Boozer is
gone. And I think the Jazz need to get more than just cap relief out of his
just ask Cleveland what they thought of the selfish man. He was only on the
Olympic team because of his college coach..no minutes..maybe it was to long of a
summer for him to play basketball. It is sad that an employee making that kind
of money shouldn't at least give something back to his employer..sorry Larry you
are and have been to good to Boozer...he came in like wanting to be the next
Malone..he can not play in another system where they get up and down and don't
have sets..it showed in the Olmpics...he is not athletic enough and that is why
he left Cleveland he knew he didn;t want to have to play defense and try and
help a team..sad day and a very selfish individual.
Millsap is turning into the player that we wanted Boozer to be.
Did you hear Hot Rod call him out the other day? In this economy I believe
these stupid contracts have to go down. He may be thinking his paltry 68 mil
contract wasn't too bad next year at this time.
Boozer is a second round pick. Remember that. Would it be so hard to get a class
A free agent? I don't think so. Great fan base, coach, and point guard. Would you guys want boozer gone if Millsap wasn't playing so well?
Here's my take on Boozer.The injury is legit, at least enough that Boozer
feels he isn't 100%. He wants to wait until then so that he can put up big
numbers to impress other teams, meaning he's virtually impossible to trade right
now.If the Jazz don't trade him before the deadline, look for huge numbers
from Booze (and Memo) from that point on and in the playoffs. Thanks
for the memories Booze, good luck in Miami, and good riddance.
I can't believe he expects to get a raise. If I used as many sick days as he
does a year, I would be out of a job really fast. Hey Boozer, this one isn't in
God's hands, your leg isn't sore any more, it's stiff from not moving at all
over the past month and a half.
We knew he would do it, and the timing does not surprise me at all. Look at
what he did to the Cavs after all.Boozer is good, but not great.
Certainly not worth $15 million. Also, does he not understand that the entire
financial system is in danger of collapsing? Does he not see that every time he
gets hurt he is out for not a few games, but a few months?I don't
understand him at all, but there are other options.
As with all of us, we all have a legacy to leave behind, that is, how people
will remember us. Having said that Boozer, how will people remember you; you
might start by asking the Cleveland fans.
Dump him - he isn't worth the money. He thinks he is a superstar, but
superstars show up every night.
I'm sorry, but if Boozer goes than so be it. We can not just let several other
players walk just to keep boozer when Millsap is the second coming of Charles
Barkley.Okur is more important than most fans give him credit for.
He almost always plays if hurt, and is becoming a better low post player and
defender. Now I am not saying he is a great low post player but improving low
post player. Besides, Boozer can be a little to finesse in the post. And his
defense always seems to be a step behind the better players.
Boozer is possibly the biggest patsie in the history of the NBA. Give me a
No toughness. No dedication to his team. Boozer appears to be all about
Boozer. Not someone I can cheer for.
is what he is all about.
Love Millsap,when is the last time you saw Boozer up and STUFF SHAQ point blank.
Millsap is more athletic and will develop into a major presence. What the Jazz
need is interior defense. Lets get a serious defender in here to replace
Boozer's big money, defense is the only way the Jazz get a title.
He's as worthless as windshield wipers on a submarine. Add Boozer to that old
statement. How much money has the Jazz spent on Boozer sitting on his rump?
He'll next be out of the game because of callouses on his rump. Let him go.
Spend the money on a good center.
That is the problem with athletes today, no loyalty. However, the Jazz got what
was coming to them, they should have known he wasn't a team player by his
actions in Cleveland. Boozer will never be the player he is today without
Deron.Go Jazz/Go Utes/Down w/BYU :)
O'Conner Let him go! Send him out of town. I am so sick of this guy and his fake
injuries. Boozer, Don't let the door hit you on your way out.....
"Wow! Boozer's actually going to opt out?"No surprise there.It didn't take a genius to figure out Carlos was going to opt out.
Anyone who thought otherwise was just deceiving themselves.Trade him
now Jazz, no point in keeping someone who doesn't play defense. After all, he
might get hurt and cost himself that BIG FAT contract he's after.If
Boston proved anything last year, it's that DEFENSE wins championships. 20/10
per night, doesn't do the Jazz any good if the guy Boozer guards gets 22/8.Remember Coach Mike Krzyzewski didn't play Boozer much during the
Olympics for a very good reason. The guy doesn't like to defend anyyone. If
anybody understands Boozer's play it's Coach K. Why? Because he was Boozer's
college coach at Duke.
Timberwolves will be good. Also, OKC, and LAC. How about Kings? Miami will be
good too, maybe for Beasley and a first round pick? I really don't now how the
salary matching thing works, so please excuse me.
I am sure the Jazz would like to keep Boozer, but if the bidding price gets too
high, they'll no doubt let him go because admittedly they are committed to keep
Millsap who is Sloan's type of player and still have Kirilenko whose best
position is the PF.If Boozer leaves, I think they'll focus on
getting Chris Bosh in 2010, a guy Sloan raves about and would be great in his
system; plus, he is versatile, durable, and team player.
dump booz and do what ever it takes to sign Turiaf to come in and backup
Millsap. You get the double double, plus a defensive presence to shut teams down
while Millsap gets a blow .... at less than half the price. Plus your get a
character guy from GONZAGA with Gutz.
There's your Boozer. How do you like him now?
Give the Knicks Boozer and Okur for Starbury and their draft pick this year and
the one after the one we already have. We then buyout Marbury, who really wants
this guy.We have some top draft picks over the next few years,
although a team that won't do much but make the playoffs during the next couple
years. We could resign some of our other talent with money to spare.The Knicks get cap relief they are looking for to sign Bron.
Finally a honest and straight forward statement from Boozer...a change from his
usual shifty and elusive comments. Hey unlike Cleveland fans, we Jazz fans are
getting a heads up. Remember the last time the word "peculiar" was used by a
Jazz executive was by Larry Miller after Derek Fisher made his quick turn around
from Jazz man with three years left on his contract to a Laker. While is hard to
fault an athlete for taking their time to rehab in order to be a 100 percent
ready to play, it should be noted that Williams decided to play even though he
has clearly not been a 100 percent. Perhaps Boozer is resting up for a
championship run...in 2010...with the Miami Heat.
Let the Timberwolves have at him.
So that's it then. Boozer is opting out. We all new it was comming
but I honestly thought he was goign to wait untill the end of the year to talk
about it.I think this may change the attitude of Jazz management
towards him a little bit, especially if they feel blindsided and a little
betrayed by his announcement.I wouldn't be surprised if the feelers
start going out from our front office and the front office of other franchises
to see if there is a deal worth considering.Personally, I hope if
the Jazz can't get a top shelf player for him that he will stay and play his
guts out through the end of the season, he really is a great player and the Jazz
still need him.
Well, at least there need be no more speculation. If Booze's asking price for
the next few years can be met, I would keep him here. To all you guys who would
rather have another big time player rather than Booze, which player will want to
come to Utah and play here? Booze is already here and loves the system. As
long as he starts at the PF position, he'll be fine. And no matter what how
good you think Millsap is or is going to be (and I think it will be pretty
good), you can never have enough proven but not yet old players. Would we have
scored just 7 points last night in the first quarter if Booze was playing? Of
course not, but we should still hold his injury against him. It certainly is a
chance paying him a big contract, but one in which I believe it is worth it if
we want to be a lock for the atleast the playoffs for the next 5 years. This means letting Okur and Korver leave if he opts out. It will be sad
b/c they gave a lot to the Jazz (especially Okur), but it happens.
you will not see boozer in a jazz uniform again