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Utah Jazz notebook: Boozer will opt out of deal, get 2nd MRI
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Anonymous | 12:28 a.m. Dec. 18, 2008
you will not see boozer in a jazz uniform again
Boozer | 12:57 a.m. Dec. 18, 2008
Well, at least there need be no more speculation. If Booze's asking price
for the next few years can be met, I would keep him here. To all you guys who
would rather have another big time player rather than Booze, which player will
want to come to Utah and play here? Booze is already here and loves the system.
As long as he starts at the PF position, he'll be fine. And no matter
what how good you think Millsap is or is going to be (and I think it will be
pretty good), you can never have enough proven but not yet old players. Would
we have scored just 7 points last night in the first quarter if Booze was
playing? Of course not, but we should still hold his injury against him. It
certainly is a chance paying him a big contract, but one in which I believe it
is worth it if we want to be a lock for the atleast the playoffs for the next 5
years.
This means letting Okur and Korver leave if he opts out. It will be sad b/c they gave a lot to the Jazz (especially Okur), but it happens.
This means letting Okur and Korver leave if he opts out. It will be sad b/c they gave a lot to the Jazz (especially Okur), but it happens.
magnus | 12:55 a.m. Dec. 18, 2008
So that's it then. Boozer is opting out.
We all new it was comming but I honestly thought he was goign to wait untill the end of the year to talk about it.
I think this may change the attitude of Jazz management towards him a little bit, especially if they feel blindsided and a little betrayed by his announcement.
I wouldn't be surprised if the feelers start going out from our front office and the front office of other franchises to see if there is a deal worth considering.
Personally, I hope if the Jazz can't get a top shelf player for him that he will stay and play his guts out through the end of the season, he really is a great player and the Jazz still need him.
We all new it was comming but I honestly thought he was goign to wait untill the end of the year to talk about it.
I think this may change the attitude of Jazz management towards him a little bit, especially if they feel blindsided and a little betrayed by his announcement.
I wouldn't be surprised if the feelers start going out from our front office and the front office of other franchises to see if there is a deal worth considering.
Personally, I hope if the Jazz can't get a top shelf player for him that he will stay and play his guts out through the end of the season, he really is a great player and the Jazz still need him.
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Jack London | 1:17 a.m. Dec. 18, 2008
Let the Timberwolves have at him.
wilocrek | 1:30 a.m. Dec. 18, 2008
Finally a honest and straight forward statement from Boozer...a change from his
usual shifty and elusive comments. Hey unlike Cleveland fans, we Jazz fans are
getting a heads up. Remember the last time the word "peculiar" was
used by a Jazz executive was by Larry Miller after Derek Fisher made his quick
turn around from Jazz man with three years left on his contract to a Laker.
While is hard to fault an athlete for taking their time to rehab in order to be
a 100 percent ready to play, it should be noted that Williams decided to play
even though he has clearly not been a 100 percent. Perhaps Boozer is resting up
for a championship run...in 2010...with the Miami Heat.
hmm | 1:36 a.m. Dec. 18, 2008
Give the Knicks Boozer and Okur for Starbury and their draft pick this year and
the one after the one we already have. We then buyout Marbury, who really wants
this guy.
We have some top draft picks over the next few years, although a team that won't do much but make the playoffs during the next couple years. We could resign some of our other talent with money to spare.
The Knicks get cap relief they are looking for to sign Bron.
We have some top draft picks over the next few years, although a team that won't do much but make the playoffs during the next couple years. We could resign some of our other talent with money to spare.
The Knicks get cap relief they are looking for to sign Bron.
Clay | 1:34 a.m. Dec. 18, 2008
There's your Boozer. How do you like him now?
akzag | 1:54 a.m. Dec. 18, 2008
dump booz and do what ever it takes to sign Turiaf to come in and backup
Millsap. You get the double double, plus a defensive presence to shut teams down
while Millsap gets a blow .... at less than half the price. Plus your get a
character guy from GONZAGA with Gutz.
BT | 2:16 a.m. Dec. 18, 2008
I am sure the Jazz would like to keep Boozer, but if the bidding price gets too
high, they'll no doubt let him go because admittedly they are committed to
keep Millsap who is Sloan's type of player and still have Kirilenko whose
best position is the PF.
If Boozer leaves, I think they'll focus on getting Chris Bosh in 2010, a guy Sloan raves about and would be great in his system; plus, he is versatile, durable, and team player.
If Boozer leaves, I think they'll focus on getting Chris Bosh in 2010, a guy Sloan raves about and would be great in his system; plus, he is versatile, durable, and team player.
GoodGuyGary | 2:53 a.m. Dec. 18, 2008
Timberwolves will be good. Also, OKC, and LAC. How about Kings? Miami will be
good too, maybe for Beasley and a first round pick? I really don't now how
the salary matching thing works, so please excuse me.
rvalens2 | 3:34 a.m. Dec. 18, 2008
"Wow! Boozer's actually going to opt out?"
No surprise there.
It didn't take a genius to figure out Carlos was going to opt out. Anyone who thought otherwise was just deceiving themselves.
Trade him now Jazz, no point in keeping someone who doesn't play defense. After all, he might get hurt and cost himself that BIG FAT contract he's after.
If Boston proved anything last year, it's that DEFENSE wins championships. 20/10 per night, doesn't do the Jazz any good if the guy Boozer guards gets 22/8.
Remember Coach Mike Krzyzewski didn't play Boozer much during the Olympics for a very good reason. The guy doesn't like to defend anyyone. If anybody understands Boozer's play it's Coach K. Why? Because he was Boozer's college coach at Duke.
No surprise there.
It didn't take a genius to figure out Carlos was going to opt out. Anyone who thought otherwise was just deceiving themselves.
Trade him now Jazz, no point in keeping someone who doesn't play defense. After all, he might get hurt and cost himself that BIG FAT contract he's after.
If Boston proved anything last year, it's that DEFENSE wins championships. 20/10 per night, doesn't do the Jazz any good if the guy Boozer guards gets 22/8.
Remember Coach Mike Krzyzewski didn't play Boozer much during the Olympics for a very good reason. The guy doesn't like to defend anyyone. If anybody understands Boozer's play it's Coach K. Why? Because he was Boozer's college coach at Duke.
Anonymous | 3:47 a.m. Dec. 18, 2008
O'Conner Let him go! Send him out of town. I am so sick of this guy and his
fake injuries. Boozer, Don't let the door hit you on your way out.....
Boozer | 5:10 a.m. Dec. 18, 2008
That is the problem with athletes today, no loyalty. However, the Jazz got what
was coming to them, they should have known he wasn't a team player by his
actions in Cleveland. Boozer will never be the player he is today without
Deron.
Go Jazz/Go Utes/Down w/BYU :)
Go Jazz/Go Utes/Down w/BYU :)
Eddiw | 5:50 a.m. Dec. 18, 2008
He's as worthless as windshield wipers on a submarine. Add Boozer to that
old statement. How much money has the Jazz spent on Boozer sitting on his rump?
He'll next be out of the game because of callouses on his rump. Let him
go. Spend the money on a good center.
Todd, Norfolk VA | 6:12 a.m. Dec. 18, 2008
Love Millsap,when is the last time you saw Boozer up and STUFF SHAQ point blank.
Millsap is more athletic and will develop into a major presence. What the Jazz
need is interior defense. Lets get a serious defender in here to replace
Boozer's big money, defense is the only way the Jazz get a title.
Money and Stats | 6:16 a.m. Dec. 18, 2008
is what he is all about.
He's all about the Money | 6:25 a.m. Dec. 18, 2008
No toughness. No dedication to his team. Boozer appears to be all about
Boozer. Not someone I can cheer for.
Brother! | 6:31 a.m. Dec. 18, 2008
Boozer is possibly the biggest patsie in the history of the NBA. Give me a
break!
odogtriever | 6:31 a.m. Dec. 18, 2008
I'm sorry, but if Boozer goes than so be it. We can not just let several
other players walk just to keep boozer when Millsap is the second coming of
Charles Barkley.
Okur is more important than most fans give him credit for. He almost always plays if hurt, and is becoming a better low post player and defender. Now I am not saying he is a great low post player but improving low post player. Besides, Boozer can be a little to finesse in the post. And his defense always seems to be a step behind the better players.
Okur is more important than most fans give him credit for. He almost always plays if hurt, and is becoming a better low post player and defender. Now I am not saying he is a great low post player but improving low post player. Besides, Boozer can be a little to finesse in the post. And his defense always seems to be a step behind the better players.
Dan | 6:37 a.m. Dec. 18, 2008
Dump him - he isn't worth the money. He thinks he is a superstar, but
superstars show up every night.
Legacy | 6:36 a.m. Dec. 18, 2008
As with all of us, we all have a legacy to leave behind, that is, how people
will remember us. Having said that Boozer, how will people remember you; you
might start by asking the Cleveland fans.
Mark | 6:44 a.m. Dec. 18, 2008
We knew he would do it, and the timing does not surprise me at all. Look at
what he did to the Cavs after all.
Boozer is good, but not great. Certainly not worth $15 million. Also, does he not understand that the entire financial system is in danger of collapsing? Does he not see that every time he gets hurt he is out for not a few games, but a few months?
I don't understand him at all, but there are other options.
Boozer is good, but not great. Certainly not worth $15 million. Also, does he not understand that the entire financial system is in danger of collapsing? Does he not see that every time he gets hurt he is out for not a few games, but a few months?
I don't understand him at all, but there are other options.
Anonymous | 6:56 a.m. Dec. 18, 2008
I can't believe he expects to get a raise. If I used as many sick days as
he does a year, I would be out of a job really fast. Hey Boozer, this one
isn't in God's hands, your leg isn't sore any more, it's
stiff from not moving at all over the past month and a half.
Millsap Man | 6:58 a.m. Dec. 18, 2008
Here's my take on Boozer.
The injury is legit, at least enough that Boozer feels he isn't 100%. He wants to wait until then so that he can put up big numbers to impress other teams, meaning he's virtually impossible to trade right now.
If the Jazz don't trade him before the deadline, look for huge numbers from Booze (and Memo) from that point on and in the playoffs.
Thanks for the memories Booze, good luck in Miami, and good riddance.
The injury is legit, at least enough that Boozer feels he isn't 100%. He wants to wait until then so that he can put up big numbers to impress other teams, meaning he's virtually impossible to trade right now.
If the Jazz don't trade him before the deadline, look for huge numbers from Booze (and Memo) from that point on and in the playoffs.
Thanks for the memories Booze, good luck in Miami, and good riddance.
Weaksiderejectionblog | 7:06 a.m. Dec. 18, 2008
Boozer is a second round pick. Remember that. Would it be so hard to get a class
A free agent? I don't think so. Great fan base, coach, and point guard.
Would you guys want boozer gone if Millsap wasn't playing so well?
Would you guys want boozer gone if Millsap wasn't playing so well?
Anonymous | 7:22 a.m. Dec. 18, 2008
Did you hear Hot Rod call him out the other day? In this economy I believe
these stupid contracts have to go down. He may be thinking his paltry 68 mil
contract wasn't too bad next year at this time.
Glen | 7:23 a.m. Dec. 18, 2008
Millsap is turning into the player that we wanted Boozer to be.
boozer | 7:31 a.m. Dec. 18, 2008
just ask Cleveland what they thought of the selfish man. He was only on the
Olympic team because of his college coach..no minutes..maybe it was to long of a
summer for him to play basketball. It is sad that an employee making that kind
of money shouldn't at least give something back to his employer..sorry
Larry you are and have been to good to Boozer...he came in like wanting to be
the next Malone..he can not play in another system where they get up and down
and don't have sets..it showed in the Olmpics...he is not athletic enough
and that is why he left Cleveland he knew he didn;t want to have to play defense
and try and help a team..sad day and a very selfish individual.
Trader Joe | 7:40 a.m. Dec. 18, 2008
Boozer's "injury" is making it impossible to trade him. If he
gets back on the court, consider that his audition for a number of suitors.
Boozer is gone. And I think the Jazz need to get more than just cap relief out of his departure.
Boozer is gone. And I think the Jazz need to get more than just cap relief out of his departure.
justme | 7:43 a.m. Dec. 18, 2008
Just another guy who can't feed his family with that paltry 68
million...
The average guy out there lives a normal life with a strained quadricep tendon and this guy can't suit up and play SOME MINUTES?
PATSY!!!!
I think he's hearing all the praise that Millsap is earning, and feeling a little hurt and guilty for not busting his butt like the rest of the team. So in order to be back in the headlines he drops the "bomb".
Boozer, this is a blue collar team and coach. Admit it. You can't hang! You're tired of getting your butt kicked in practice by Millsap so you want to take your marbles and go play somewhere else. SEE YA!!!
The average guy out there lives a normal life with a strained quadricep tendon and this guy can't suit up and play SOME MINUTES?
PATSY!!!!
I think he's hearing all the praise that Millsap is earning, and feeling a little hurt and guilty for not busting his butt like the rest of the team. So in order to be back in the headlines he drops the "bomb".
Boozer, this is a blue collar team and coach. Admit it. You can't hang! You're tired of getting your butt kicked in practice by Millsap so you want to take your marbles and go play somewhere else. SEE YA!!!
MMM | 7:44 a.m. Dec. 18, 2008
Let him goooooo!!!! we dont need him!!! keep Milsap, bring Bosh and Carter!!!
reality cheque | 8:00 a.m. Dec. 18, 2008
Sorry folks, but there will be no trading of Boozer. Why would anybody trade
for him? All they have to do is wait 7 months and then sign him without having
to give up any players.
Boo for Boozer | 8:03 a.m. Dec. 18, 2008
When you cheat on your spouse, i.e. Cleveland, it rarely works out with the one
you cheated with. Boozer is showing his true colors. A championship is the
last thing on his mind.
Curtdog | 8:03 a.m. Dec. 18, 2008
Let him go! See you later Loozer!!!!!!!!!!!!
Hmmm... | 8:09 a.m. Dec. 18, 2008
Who is Carlos Boozer?
Booze | 8:09 a.m. Dec. 18, 2008
Jazz ahould sue him for non-performance, and not let him near the EAS this year.
magnus | 8:09 a.m. Dec. 18, 2008
I'm pretty sure none of you guys have any idea what the NBA Salary cap
rules are so I'm going to help you not to look stupid.
If the Jazz do not trade Boozer and he opts out they will still be over the cap and will not be able to sign anyone making over $5 Mil a year (mid level exception), They just can't, so stop dreaming.
The only way the Jazz could gain the cap space to be a player in the 2010 free agent market is to let Memo and Millsap walk along with Boozer. Or they would have to let Boozer walk and move AK in a straight Salary dump, I just don't see that happening.
So basically what I am saying is that you can just stop talking about signing or trading for guys like Chris Bosh and Amare Staudamire because their teams would never trade them. You have to look at guys who are not the foundation of their current team or are unhappy and asking for trade.
And you can stop talking about signing a big name free agent because the Jazz don't, and won't, have the cap space to do it.
If the Jazz do not trade Boozer and he opts out they will still be over the cap and will not be able to sign anyone making over $5 Mil a year (mid level exception), They just can't, so stop dreaming.
The only way the Jazz could gain the cap space to be a player in the 2010 free agent market is to let Memo and Millsap walk along with Boozer. Or they would have to let Boozer walk and move AK in a straight Salary dump, I just don't see that happening.
So basically what I am saying is that you can just stop talking about signing or trading for guys like Chris Bosh and Amare Staudamire because their teams would never trade them. You have to look at guys who are not the foundation of their current team or are unhappy and asking for trade.
And you can stop talking about signing a big name free agent because the Jazz don't, and won't, have the cap space to do it.
A Raise??? | 8:16 a.m. Dec. 18, 2008
Dude is missing games because his knee is a bit sore, but felt great in
practice? And he is telling the country he going to go ahead and get a raise?
What?!?!
The Jazz would be better with 24, 5, & 13 all signed and PLAYING. But if 5 is not going to play when he is a bit sore, might be time to let him go and play Koufos more behind Milsap & Memo.
Is Boozer an extremely slow healer, have a low pain threshhold, or what? I'm curious. He comes across as just being soft.
The Jazz would be better with 24, 5, & 13 all signed and PLAYING. But if 5 is not going to play when he is a bit sore, might be time to let him go and play Koufos more behind Milsap & Memo.
Is Boozer an extremely slow healer, have a low pain threshhold, or what? I'm curious. He comes across as just being soft.
Wait wait... | 8:19 a.m. Dec. 18, 2008
Yeah who is this Carlos Boozer fella? Isn't he that tall white guy who
never gets to play? Oh no... I've just been informed that's not Boozer
and apparently I've offended some guy named Fesenko. I still don't see
the difference, sorry.
Millsap or Boozer? | 8:21 a.m. Dec. 18, 2008
Both are 2nd round picks. One has made good, the other better. Boozer gets
hurt a bit here and there, but when healthy is a beast. Millsap has shown in
Boozer's absence that he's a solid 15-10 guy that doesn't need
the ball to be effective. I can't say the same about Carlos, he needs
touches to get his. Defensively, Millsap wins out, but is more foul-prone than
Boozer. The biggest drawback to letting Boozer go is losing 21-23 points per
night. I don't know if Millsap can replace the scoring, but he can
definitely cover in the other areas. My guess is Millsap can be retained for
5-6 years and $65 million. Boozer would be more in the neighborhood of 6 years,
$110 million (using the last year of his current contract as a starting point).
With decisions on Okur, Brewer, and others coming, I think the Jazz will pull
the trigger and keep Millsap, letting Boozer walk to Miami or wherever he wants
to go, unless another team offers Millsap some outrageous sum in the $80 mil
neighborhood. Then we would bite the bullet on Boozer and pay the six-figures
deal and lose Millsap.
Annie | 8:24 a.m. Dec. 18, 2008
Booooooorrrrrring! This is NOT big news and the world is not coming to an end.
Let's focus on the guys who are working/playing hard and earning their
$$$$, who show up and appear to have loyalty to their
fans/teammates/coaches/owner/etc. We have some incredible young men on this Jazz
team and need to spend our emotions supporting them and not moaning about the
slackers. Go Jazzboys!!! That game last night showed HEART!!!
Lonnie Yeaman | 8:26 a.m. Dec. 18, 2008
Maybe he will look better sitting on Knicks bench than he does the Jazz bench,
let the "waste of skin"go!
Anonymous | 8:39 a.m. Dec. 18, 2008
Trade him!
Re: reality cheque | 8:40 a.m. Dec. 18, 2008
Admittedly, pulling off a good trade in this situation will be tricky. However,
there always seem to be decent players out there who don't "fit"
with their team, and might make a good trade for us. Look at how we got Korver
last year! For Giricek! Our best bet at a trade would be to take on an
expiring contract combined with a role player whom O'Conner feels would
help the Jazz. I bet O'Conner is targeting Miami (Boozer's
"home") and Orlando, in order to try to place Boozer where he'll
want to resign this offseason. Orlando might give up a few good guys if they
are confident Boozer will resign with them. Of course, all teams should be
hesitant of any "promise" Boozer might make to resign after a trade is
proposed!
Boozer HATER | 8:38 a.m. Dec. 18, 2008
I can't stand this pre-madonna! He is the biggest wimp I am ever seen. Karl
Malone wouldn't have missed 1 game over this injury and this wimp has
missed over a month.
This all being said, he makes a statement like "I am opting out...but I want to stay with the Jazz"?! What a selfish punk!
That commercial for Zions bank he is in...he doesn't represent any of those words: trust, determination, loyalty, my ass Boozer!
Boozer you SUCK...opt out...pack your shiz...and get out of Utah!
This all being said, he makes a statement like "I am opting out...but I want to stay with the Jazz"?! What a selfish punk!
That commercial for Zions bank he is in...he doesn't represent any of those words: trust, determination, loyalty, my ass Boozer!
Boozer you SUCK...opt out...pack your shiz...and get out of Utah!
Sloan Lover | 8:52 a.m. Dec. 18, 2008
Let's see, crumbling economy,the AFL just decided not to play in 09, we are
losing jobs at a rapid rate, the NBA is struggling to fill arena's and
someone who has missed what 30 pecent of the games he has been with the jazz
wants a raise? I think I'm going to go ask my boss for a raise right now. I
wonder what his response will be?? I guess Booz wants his own bail out plan.
This could be interesting to see if anyone offers more than 12 million to him if
this economy doesn't get better. I'm sure there are some owners who
don't want to lose their shirt on overpriced wimps! If the Jazz can't
trade him now or do a sign and trade, then sign him, at market value and then
trade him as soon as he is eligible to be traded. Same thing with Memo, Milsap
and Brewer. That may put us in the luxury tax range until you dump a few
salaries, however, I can't see just letting people walk without getting
something in return. Booz for Marion and a draft pick? At least we would have
someone who could play defense!
Booze | 8:56 a.m. Dec. 18, 2008
While he may help the Jazz (when he actually plays), I don't know if he
will be worth the money since he does not have a good record of playing with
minor injuries (hang nails and such) :) Honestly, Look how many games he has
missed the last 4-5 years, is that worth almost max money along with all the
drama!
More importantly, the Jazz can not afford Williams, Boozer AND Millsap next year, so someone has to go! Millsap has a lot more growth and upside potential (including defense) at 1/2 the price, so I say let Boozer go as we all know he is not the better value for cost and he would rather be somewhere else anyway.
More importantly, the Jazz can not afford Williams, Boozer AND Millsap next year, so someone has to go! Millsap has a lot more growth and upside potential (including defense) at 1/2 the price, so I say let Boozer go as we all know he is not the better value for cost and he would rather be somewhere else anyway.
bergstro | 8:59 a.m. Dec. 18, 2008
He's not exactly revealing anything that everyone didn't already know.
But c'mon Booz, could your timing be any worse?! The classy thing to do
is not say anything about it until after the season is over - just keep
deferring the reporter's questions with the standard "we'll worry
about that when the season's over, right now I just want to win."
Instead he starts piping about a raise 2 months into the season, while his team
is on a road trip, slightly slumping without him, and while he is sitting out
yet again with a minor injury that Karl Malone would've brushed off on his
way to another 30-10 night. Boozer's publicist has got to be kicking
himself right now...
Pop this ZIT! | 9:04 a.m. Dec. 18, 2008
Why would Booze say this right now? It just goes to show that he has never been
a team player. I think these comments will alienate the team. If the Captain,
only cares about himself and his fat contract, what will the rest of the team
feel? Hopefully Sloan and Willy will bring this team together and be the true
rock for this team to build. We all thought Booze was going to be a great
foundation to build this team on, all he ended up being was weak marshmallow. He
never has bought into the team first mentality. He is a duesch!!
No suprise | 9:05 a.m. Dec. 18, 2008
Why would Jazz management be suprised by this. It's the same trick he
played on his last team (He was 'injured' and didn't play for
them for most of his last season. They thought he was comming back to sign and
play for them next season and he snuck out behind their back and signed with the
Jazz). It's just the way he operates.
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