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the only game | 11:39 a.m. Dec. 17, 2008
the ONLY Utah-BYU game that matters was on november 22, 2008. Do you remember
that game?
RE: re:10:31 | 11:41 a.m. Dec. 17, 2008
"Oh, and keep the camera ready for a nice shot of the Utah backfield and
count which team has more players there, Utah or Bama. What a miserable way to
end a nice season."
LOL!! It can't be any miserable then 48-24 and counting the number INTs Utah D picked off.
Just being in the Sugar Bowl game is priceless, something I don't expect any BYU fan to understand.
LOL!! It can't be any miserable then 48-24 and counting the number INTs Utah D picked off.
Just being in the Sugar Bowl game is priceless, something I don't expect any BYU fan to understand.
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re: 1890s / 1922 | 11:43 a.m. Dec. 17, 2008
Still counting a spring scrimmage as a real game?
How ever you count it, over 60% of Utah's wins in the series came before more than a handful of college football fans owned a color television.
Talk about living in the past.
Since 1962, BYU is 28-19 versus Utah; 25-12 since 1972.
How ever you count it, over 60% of Utah's wins in the series came before more than a handful of college football fans owned a color television.
Talk about living in the past.
Since 1962, BYU is 28-19 versus Utah; 25-12 since 1972.
Living in the past? | 11:51 a.m. Dec. 17, 2008
Once again, BYU fans are ok with living in the past when it makes them look
good. But don't want to look at the overall picture. Either look at the
past and deal with it or just live in the present...48-24!!!
Isn't Envy a Sin | 11:52 a.m. Dec. 17, 2008
�But smile, this is your reward for the two missed FG by a
TCU Freshman�
I will be smiling all the way to NO. BYU had the chance of knocking that smile off my face but they didn't, see scoreboard 48-24, instead the smile got wider.
So thank you BYU and thank you TCU for not being able to stop us on our way to 12-0.
I will be smiling all the way to NO. BYU had the chance of knocking that smile off my face but they didn't, see scoreboard 48-24, instead the smile got wider.
So thank you BYU and thank you TCU for not being able to stop us on our way to 12-0.
Not a bitter Cougar fan here | 11:55 a.m. Dec. 17, 2008
I actually am from the state of Utah and WAS going to cheer for the Utes, but I
can't bring myself to do it because of the annoying Ute fans on these
comment boards. I, with my family, will be cheering for the Utes to lose (again
not because I'm a "bitter Cougar fan") but simply because I
don't like the majority of the Ute fan base, PERIOD. Hey Utes, when you
are back to taking third place in conference (NEXT YEAR, for instance.... and
for the next several years, and winning 7 to 8 games a year, just remember this:
the "bitter Cougar fans" finished third in conference this year,
still won at least 10 plus games (three years consecutively) and still ranked in
the BCS top 16 (Ute third place finishes in the MWC are 7-8 wins and UNRANKED)!
Until you can put three, 10 plus, winning season together, CONSECUTIVELY...
better yet, just do it two years in a row... then give cougar fans all the
trash-talking you want! Signed,
Cougar-fan-previously-cheering-for-the-Utah-Utes-until-reading-all-the-annoying-Ute-fan-comments!
ROLL TIDE!!!
Talk about living in the past. | 12:06 p.m. Dec. 17, 2008
"Since 1962, BYU is 28-19 versus Utah; 25-12 since 1972."
Yaaaawn! Who cares? It�s like me arguing that my 49ers are better than the Patriots this millennium using their games from 1962 as proof.
Really?!?
Yaaaawn! Who cares? It�s like me arguing that my 49ers are better than the Patriots this millennium using their games from 1962 as proof.
Really?!?
You're not bitter | 12:15 p.m. Dec. 17, 2008
Dude, you define bitter. You are part of this tit-for-tat crowd that blames
each other for causing your disdain. Fact is, you choose to be bitter, no one
does that for you. So, cheer for whomever you choose. Most of us don't
care, but you obviously feel that posting your negative comments some how
impacts our desire to cheer for the Utes. Go away... I hope your beloved
Cougars win, only a bitter person from Utah would root otherwise.
Not a bitter Cougar fan here | 12:17 p.m. Dec. 17, 2008
"Hey Utes, when you are back to taking third place in conference (NEXT
YEAR, for instance.... and for the next several years, and winning 7 to 8 games
a year, just remember this: the "bitter Cougar fans" finished third in
conference this year, still won at least 10 plus games (three years
consecutively)"
Not bitter? What makes you-the-not-so-bitter-Couger-fan think Utah will be bad for next several years?
Congrats BYU for once again finishing with 10 wins and all you have to show for it is again a trip to Vegas.
Not bitter? What makes you-the-not-so-bitter-Couger-fan think Utah will be bad for next several years?
Congrats BYU for once again finishing with 10 wins and all you have to show for it is again a trip to Vegas.
Pathetic Utes. | 12:17 p.m. Dec. 17, 2008
Shortly after Alabama lost its first game of the season -- and any chance to
play for a national championship -- Nick Saban muttered something that might add
a little spice to the next contest.
The Crimson Tide coach said his team was the only one "that plays in a real BCS conference that went 12-0."
Utes are just happy-happy-joy-joy to be getting slaughtered by a real team.
Utes, if you're happy and you know it clap your hands...
The Crimson Tide coach said his team was the only one "that plays in a real BCS conference that went 12-0."
Utes are just happy-happy-joy-joy to be getting slaughtered by a real team.
Utes, if you're happy and you know it clap your hands...
Bitter Annoying Cougar Fans | 12:21 p.m. Dec. 17, 2008
Need we say anything else? Putting consecutively 10+ winning seasons together,
are those the straws we are grasping at? Come on Cougs just politely step aside
and let us enjoy an incredible season. It's not your time to shine, maybe
next year? Perhaps go and enjoy a Cougars basketball game, they are still on
their quest for perfection, take some pride in that. (I hope I just didn't
encourage some Y student into throwing away tuition money to print new quest
shirts) If you really want to feel good, think of Steve Young and Ty Detmer
giving each other a big hug followed by a high five. All I'm interested in
speaking with are BAMA fans! You are nothing more than a pleasant after
thought. I enjoy seeing each one of you at church, work, mall, ect... You all
bring a huge smile to my face. But I have to say our dialogue ends here, lets
chat next season. Until then, GO UTES!
Overall Picture | 12:24 p.m. Dec. 17, 2008
The overall picture is that Utah's football program tanked, disappeared,
went incognito after their 2nd bowl game and first national ranking in 1964 and
didn't reappear until 1994.
Utah had never accomplished ANYTHING on a national scale before 1964, and it took them another 30 years before they accomplished anything else.
In their entire history, Utah has only been ranked in the final polls 4 times (5 times, if you include 2008):
1964 - AP unranked, Coaches #14
1994 - AP #10, Coaches #8
2003 - AP #21, Coaches #21
2004 - AP #4, Coaches #5
2008 - currently #7 in both polls
Utah has only had four 10 or more win seasons in their history.
Except for a string of bowl wins over mostly mediocre teams, Utah really hadn't done anything on a national scale in football until their breakthrough 2004 BCS team.
Utah is still waiting to win its first national player award.
With their 2004 and 2008 teams, Utah is on the cusp of national recognition, but, their best finish in the polls, to date, is #4/#5, just barely ahead of BYU's Cotton Bowl winner, #5/#5.
Utah had never accomplished ANYTHING on a national scale before 1964, and it took them another 30 years before they accomplished anything else.
In their entire history, Utah has only been ranked in the final polls 4 times (5 times, if you include 2008):
1964 - AP unranked, Coaches #14
1994 - AP #10, Coaches #8
2003 - AP #21, Coaches #21
2004 - AP #4, Coaches #5
2008 - currently #7 in both polls
Utah has only had four 10 or more win seasons in their history.
Except for a string of bowl wins over mostly mediocre teams, Utah really hadn't done anything on a national scale in football until their breakthrough 2004 BCS team.
Utah is still waiting to win its first national player award.
With their 2004 and 2008 teams, Utah is on the cusp of national recognition, but, their best finish in the polls, to date, is #4/#5, just barely ahead of BYU's Cotton Bowl winner, #5/#5.
2003 and 2004 | 12:24 p.m. Dec. 17, 2008
"Until you can put three, 10 plus, winning season together,
CONSECUTIVELY... better yet, just do it two years in a row...then give cougar
fans all the trash-talking you want!"
See 2003 and 2004 for 10 plus wins.
When BYU gets into the BCS twice better yet just once...then give Ute fans all the trash-talk about how #4 Bama is going to roll all over Utah but make sure that year Utah didn't roll all over BYU 48-24.
See 2003 and 2004 for 10 plus wins.
When BYU gets into the BCS twice better yet just once...then give Ute fans all the trash-talk about how #4 Bama is going to roll all over Utah but make sure that year Utah didn't roll all over BYU 48-24.
RE: Overall Picture | 12:37 p.m. Dec. 17, 2008
Man you took a lot of time to research all that garbage just to make a point
Utah has never been ranked higher then BYU nationaly?
Talk about grasping at straws. No sane Ute will argue that BYU was the better program in 70s-80s. BUT 90's was a toss up and now Utah is the best non-BCS program.
If you have any facts to prove me wrong then please provide them.
Talk about grasping at straws. No sane Ute will argue that BYU was the better program in 70s-80s. BUT 90's was a toss up and now Utah is the best non-BCS program.
If you have any facts to prove me wrong then please provide them.
RE: Pathetic Utes | 12:41 p.m. Dec. 17, 2008
"Utes are just happy-happy-joy-joy to be getting slaughtered by a real
team."
We won't get slaughtered because unlike BYU we actually have a defense.
So Coug how does it feel to get slaughtered by the only real Utah football team?
We won't get slaughtered because unlike BYU we actually have a defense.
So Coug how does it feel to get slaughtered by the only real Utah football team?
Quest 09? | 12:56 p.m. Dec. 17, 2008
Us Ute fans can't wait for Saturday night when the "Quest For
Perfection 2009" begins with a victory over an impressive 7-5 Arizona team;
probably by a slim margin after an Arizona player mistakenly runs the wrong
direction and scores a TD for the Cougs. As much as we would love to spend all
summer listening to Bronco and his drones build their own hype and mystic, I
can't help but wonder if the sheepish Utah media will buy it this time
around, especially with a potential Oklahoma matchup and the loss of Austin
"We're the best team in the country even though we keep losing twice a
year" Collie to the NFL. Losing Collie will hurt, but hey that Chambers
kid keeps telling us he's the greatest so that might not be too bad of a
loss, but the Sooners might be a little tough. BYU's only hope there is if
OK decides to stop throwing the ball and goes back to the wishbone before
August.
Meanwhile the Utes will give us a good showing in NO and could pull of the upset of the bowl season, keep their mouths shut this summer and finish 12-0 again in 2009!
Meanwhile the Utes will give us a good showing in NO and could pull of the upset of the bowl season, keep their mouths shut this summer and finish 12-0 again in 2009!
Pointless Banter | 1:03 p.m. Dec. 17, 2008
Utah: 2 BCS games in last 5 years; Sugar & Fiesta.
BYU: Vegas Bowl fixture
Thats is all you really need to know. When BYU fans get down, they start bringing up the past. You know, 1984 and now even arguing the 1800's. No one cares who won in 1976. I can tell you who won in 2008.
And I can tell you that every single BYU fan out there would rather be playing Bama in the Sugar Bowl than the Vegas bowl.
So, keep trying to bring up stuff that doesn't matter anymore(like Detmer won the Hiesman or whatever) while I focus on yet another BCS game. BYU and its fans wish, long for, yearn, desire, and crave to have Utah's season. Keep trying to say that you don't.
Just so you Cougars know.....12-0 & Sugar Bowl DOES feel good.
BYU: Vegas Bowl fixture
Thats is all you really need to know. When BYU fans get down, they start bringing up the past. You know, 1984 and now even arguing the 1800's. No one cares who won in 1976. I can tell you who won in 2008.
And I can tell you that every single BYU fan out there would rather be playing Bama in the Sugar Bowl than the Vegas bowl.
So, keep trying to bring up stuff that doesn't matter anymore(like Detmer won the Hiesman or whatever) while I focus on yet another BCS game. BYU and its fans wish, long for, yearn, desire, and crave to have Utah's season. Keep trying to say that you don't.
Just so you Cougars know.....12-0 & Sugar Bowl DOES feel good.
CO Coug | 1:01 p.m. Dec. 17, 2008
Not a bitter Cougar fan here, just want the MWC to do well. Good luck to both
teams in their bowls. Bama looks very good this year, going to take a great
game from Utah to win. BYU needs to step up and win their bowl game and prepare
for next year.
I think fans from both sides need to chill out a little bit, BYU had a good season, Utah had a great one.....that's it, nothing more to fight about.
I think fans from both sides need to chill out a little bit, BYU had a good season, Utah had a great one.....that's it, nothing more to fight about.
Since 1990 | 1:15 p.m. Dec. 17, 2008
BYU - 156-81-2 (66%)
9-10 head-to-head (largest BYU win, 31 points)
BYU/Utah PF 490 PA 490
7 10+ win seasons
10 conference championships
8 Top 25 finishes (highest #5/#5)
Utah - 146-79-0 (65%)
10-9 head-to-head (largest Utah win, 31 points)
BYU/Utah PF 490 PA 490
4 10+ win seasons
5 conference championships
5 Top 25 Finishes (highest #4/#5)
Except for head-to-head, which is almost dead even, BYU leads in every significant category since 1990.
btw, head-to-head is 10-10 for the last 20 meetings
9-10 head-to-head (largest BYU win, 31 points)
BYU/Utah PF 490 PA 490
7 10+ win seasons
10 conference championships
8 Top 25 finishes (highest #5/#5)
Utah - 146-79-0 (65%)
10-9 head-to-head (largest Utah win, 31 points)
BYU/Utah PF 490 PA 490
4 10+ win seasons
5 conference championships
5 Top 25 Finishes (highest #4/#5)
Except for head-to-head, which is almost dead even, BYU leads in every significant category since 1990.
btw, head-to-head is 10-10 for the last 20 meetings
Pointless | 1:22 p.m. Dec. 17, 2008
"Utah: 2 BCS games in last 5 years"
and still no national respect.
That's all you need to know.
and still no national respect.
That's all you need to know.
Mock Playoff | 1:32 p.m. Dec. 17, 2008
In the First Round of SportsIllustrated's mock 2008 College Football
Playoff:
No. 6 Utah defeated No. 11 Cincinnati: 40,858 (73 percent) to 15,389 (27 percent).
In the Second Round:
No. 3 Texas defeated No. 6 Utah: 31,268 (86 percent) to 5,223 (14 percent).
Utah's football program is lightyears ahead of where they were before the mid 90's, but, even Utah's 2nd best team ever isn't viewed nationally as being competitive with Top 10 teams.
No. 6 Utah defeated No. 11 Cincinnati: 40,858 (73 percent) to 15,389 (27 percent).
In the Second Round:
No. 3 Texas defeated No. 6 Utah: 31,268 (86 percent) to 5,223 (14 percent).
Utah's football program is lightyears ahead of where they were before the mid 90's, but, even Utah's 2nd best team ever isn't viewed nationally as being competitive with Top 10 teams.
re:Quest 09 | 1:47 p.m. Dec. 17, 2008
What, you think Austin Collie is reading your tripe and thinking "Utah Fans
think I should go pro, so I'll go pro."?
"Meanwhile the Utes will give us a good showing in NO and could pull of the upset of the bowl season, keep their mouths shut this summer and finish 12-0 again in 2009!"
Yep, sure...
in a land of Leprechauns and Unicorns there Dwight.
Meanwhile the Utes get creamed in the 1st quarter, and the game is out of reach before the second quarter begins. They make everyone forget about Hawaii, keep their yappers barking like the little puppies thry are, and finish the season 6-6 in 2009.
But at least they get a 10 win season out of their basketball team, Drca providing the cheap shots, and Neville putting up 8 points a game, continuing Utah Basketball's renaissance of mediocrity.
10-2 three years straight, 2 conference losses in 3 years, 2/3 last MWC championships, players returning, a depleted Utah team, 10-0 in basketball (Utah 9th in conference at 5-4)...
It's a rosy future for the Cougars.
"Meanwhile the Utes will give us a good showing in NO and could pull of the upset of the bowl season, keep their mouths shut this summer and finish 12-0 again in 2009!"
Yep, sure...
in a land of Leprechauns and Unicorns there Dwight.
Meanwhile the Utes get creamed in the 1st quarter, and the game is out of reach before the second quarter begins. They make everyone forget about Hawaii, keep their yappers barking like the little puppies thry are, and finish the season 6-6 in 2009.
But at least they get a 10 win season out of their basketball team, Drca providing the cheap shots, and Neville putting up 8 points a game, continuing Utah Basketball's renaissance of mediocrity.
10-2 three years straight, 2 conference losses in 3 years, 2/3 last MWC championships, players returning, a depleted Utah team, 10-0 in basketball (Utah 9th in conference at 5-4)...
It's a rosy future for the Cougars.
re Pointless | 1:57 p.m. Dec. 17, 2008
How's that National Respect treating you down in Vegas? How's it feel
to be #4 on the Non-BCS depth chart, right behind TCU and just ahead of Ball
State? How's it feel to have so much National Respect you are a 3 point
UNDERDOG to the mighty Wildcats of Arizona, who have lost 5 games this year?
Since 2004 | 1:57 p.m. Dec. 17, 2008
Even with Utah's best two seasons ever, and BYU's worst season in 40
years, the last 5 years is pretty close:
MWC finishes
BYU - 3, 2, 1, 1, 3 = average 2.0; 2 championships
Utah - 1, 4, 3, 3, 1 = average 2.4; 2 championships
Top 25 finishes
BYU - 3
Utah - 2
10+ Win seasons
BYU - 3
Utah - 2
Head-to-head
BYU 2
Utah 3
Records
BYU 4-8, 6-6, 11-2, 11-2, 10-2 = 42-20
Utah 12-0, 7-5, 8-4, 9-4, 12-0 = 48-14
slight edge to Utah because of head-to-head and two BCS invites, but the BCS factor is over-rated.
As we saw with Hawaii last season, where you finish in the Final Rankings is more important in judging national prestige, than whether you play in a BCS game.
Just ask Hawaii, Notre Dame, Ohio State, Pittsburgh and the ACC.
MWC finishes
BYU - 3, 2, 1, 1, 3 = average 2.0; 2 championships
Utah - 1, 4, 3, 3, 1 = average 2.4; 2 championships
Top 25 finishes
BYU - 3
Utah - 2
10+ Win seasons
BYU - 3
Utah - 2
Head-to-head
BYU 2
Utah 3
Records
BYU 4-8, 6-6, 11-2, 11-2, 10-2 = 42-20
Utah 12-0, 7-5, 8-4, 9-4, 12-0 = 48-14
slight edge to Utah because of head-to-head and two BCS invites, but the BCS factor is over-rated.
As we saw with Hawaii last season, where you finish in the Final Rankings is more important in judging national prestige, than whether you play in a BCS game.
Just ask Hawaii, Notre Dame, Ohio State, Pittsburgh and the ACC.
Cali Coug | 2:04 p.m. Dec. 17, 2008
GO COUGS and ROLL TIDE!!
Blah, blah | 2:03 p.m. Dec. 17, 2008
blah blah blah blah Go Utes. blah blah blah blah Go Cougars.
re: Quest 09? | 2:07 p.m. Dec. 17, 2008
Meanwhile, Utah's...
nevermind.
Utah doesn't bother setting any real goals; that way, if they drop back to another string of 7-5, 8-4, 9-4 seasons, they won't have to worry about being ridiculed for failing to achieve their goals.
nevermind.
Utah doesn't bother setting any real goals; that way, if they drop back to another string of 7-5, 8-4, 9-4 seasons, they won't have to worry about being ridiculed for failing to achieve their goals.
Big Mac | 2:21 p.m. Dec. 17, 2008
Alabama Rushing Offense
Total Carries: Coffee (220), Ingram (135), Upchurch (58), Grant (35), Griffin (6)
Yds per carry: Cof (6.1), Ing (5.2), Up (6.0), Gra (2.5), Gri (4.8)
Carries per game average: C (17), I (10), U (4), Gra (2), Gri (0.46)
Yds per game average: C (17 x 6.1 = 103.7), I (52), U (24), Gra (5), Gri (between 0 - 4.8)
Touch downs: C (10), I (12), U (4), Gra (1), Gri (0)
Percent of total rushing: C (48.45), I (29.73), U (12.77), Gra (7.7), Gri (1.32)
-Coffee and Ingram = 79.41 - 81.81 percent of total rushing
-Coffee and Ingram = 22 of 36 Touch downs for a total of 60 percent of all rushing and receiving touch downs.
-75 percent of touch downs are rushing (27 of 36)
-Rushing and receiving plays combine, rushing makes up 77.27 - 82.5 percent of all plays
Total Carries: Coffee (220), Ingram (135), Upchurch (58), Grant (35), Griffin (6)
Yds per carry: Cof (6.1), Ing (5.2), Up (6.0), Gra (2.5), Gri (4.8)
Carries per game average: C (17), I (10), U (4), Gra (2), Gri (0.46)
Yds per game average: C (17 x 6.1 = 103.7), I (52), U (24), Gra (5), Gri (between 0 - 4.8)
Touch downs: C (10), I (12), U (4), Gra (1), Gri (0)
Percent of total rushing: C (48.45), I (29.73), U (12.77), Gra (7.7), Gri (1.32)
-Coffee and Ingram = 79.41 - 81.81 percent of total rushing
-Coffee and Ingram = 22 of 36 Touch downs for a total of 60 percent of all rushing and receiving touch downs.
-75 percent of touch downs are rushing (27 of 36)
-Rushing and receiving plays combine, rushing makes up 77.27 - 82.5 percent of all plays
Nathaniel | 2:36 p.m. Dec. 17, 2008
The comments on this Utah article just go to show that there are no BYU fans -
only Utah haters.
BAMA FAN | 2:34 p.m. Dec. 17, 2008
You people are crazy!!! Do ya'll go on like this all the time? I am a BAMA
fan and live in Tuscaloosa Al and BAMA and Auburn have a deep hate for each
other but u people take to another level. I would pay to come to Utah see your
teams play, I bet that would be off the chart. I guess you play every year? U
guys talk about each other more than the bowl games u are in. Why don't
save some money and just play each other again and put it on pay per view. And
people say SEC fans are nutts. Roll Tide.
TucsonUte | 2:59 p.m. Dec. 17, 2008
The MWC needs to win their bowl games to validate the season as a whole for the
conference. The press here in Tucson are getting crazy with their predictions
concerning the Vegas Bowl and all of them are hinting that it will be a Arizona
blowout. While I am not the biggest BYU fan, I think the lack of respect for
the Cougars is not justified.
Utah can play with Alabama and can present problems for them that the Tide wouldn't see in SEC opponents. TCU is a lot better team the BSU, they just need to go out and prove it. GO MWC!!
Utah can play with Alabama and can present problems for them that the Tide wouldn't see in SEC opponents. TCU is a lot better team the BSU, they just need to go out and prove it. GO MWC!!
MADRYBEG | 3:02 p.m. Dec. 17, 2008
Re: Overall Picture
Nobody can deny that BYU has had a very successful football program. I am a Utah fan and I know this is true. They have competed well in the arena the MWC/WAC has been allowed to play.
However, before you beat your chest too hard take into consideration your statement you made regarding Utah. "Except for a string of bowl games OVER MOSTLY MEDIOCRE teams, Utah hasn't really done anything on a national scale in football until their 2004 breakthrough season." You forget that although BYU has played some college football names in bowl games they have not beaten anyone with too high of a profile:
1. Michigan (6-5. Not championship caliber!)
2. Kansas St: 3rd place in Big 12 and 9-3. (I feel this was BYU's best team ever and could have competed with almost anyone).
3. SMU
4. WSU
5. Missouri
6. Colorado
7. Oklahoma
8. Oregon
9. UCLA
*Even then OK and OR are the only blowouts.
Utah has not played anybody better, but they have beaten who has been placed before them. It is a shame the 2004 Utes did not get a chance to show who they were. Pitt was an insult!
Nobody can deny that BYU has had a very successful football program. I am a Utah fan and I know this is true. They have competed well in the arena the MWC/WAC has been allowed to play.
However, before you beat your chest too hard take into consideration your statement you made regarding Utah. "Except for a string of bowl games OVER MOSTLY MEDIOCRE teams, Utah hasn't really done anything on a national scale in football until their 2004 breakthrough season." You forget that although BYU has played some college football names in bowl games they have not beaten anyone with too high of a profile:
1. Michigan (6-5. Not championship caliber!)
2. Kansas St: 3rd place in Big 12 and 9-3. (I feel this was BYU's best team ever and could have competed with almost anyone).
3. SMU
4. WSU
5. Missouri
6. Colorado
7. Oklahoma
8. Oregon
9. UCLA
*Even then OK and OR are the only blowouts.
Utah has not played anybody better, but they have beaten who has been placed before them. It is a shame the 2004 Utes did not get a chance to show who they were. Pitt was an insult!
Re: Matchups | 3:05 p.m. Dec. 17, 2008
Best comments I've heard regarding this game. (Great take)!
Brian Johnson is going to be cool under pressure. His abilities have taken a quntum leap since the TCU game. The Utes have a good shot if they execute their game plan and aren't too tired by the 4th quarter.
and to the guy that said there will be 90% Alabama fans to Utah's 10%, It will be more like 75/25. (So there)!
Brian Johnson is going to be cool under pressure. His abilities have taken a quntum leap since the TCU game. The Utes have a good shot if they execute their game plan and aren't too tired by the 4th quarter.
and to the guy that said there will be 90% Alabama fans to Utah's 10%, It will be more like 75/25. (So there)!
re.Quest | 3:09 p.m. Dec. 17, 2008
So now you want us to give your Cougs credit for declaring themselves the
BCS-Busters for 2008 and putting themselves on course for the "Quest for
Perfection." You are really reaching here. I'd say Utah's goals
fall in line with just about every other college team in the country; win their
conference title. But no, we should praise your Cougars for the arrogance and
self-rightousness to start their own hype about being undefeated, and 4 weeks
into that Quest about being included in the National Championship picture. You
can blame everyone you want but it won't change the facts. Bronco started
this mess and couldn't deliver on it. You all had mud slung in your face
first by TCU, then by your big brothers to the north. Take your crow down to
Vegas, keep your mouths closed for a change, try to defeat a 7-5 Arizona team
and relish in the reality that we have what you don't, and will never have.
10-2 is good, 12-0 is PERFECTION. Only difference is we didn't brag about
it BEFORE it happened!
Chioubbfuiliuhoiytdeatzski Jones | 3:15 p.m. Dec. 17, 2008
To:re Pointless | 1:57 p.m. Dec. 17, 2008
"How's that National Respect treating you down in Vegas? How's it feel to be #4 on the Non-BCS depth chart, right behind TCU and just ahead of Ball State?"
Not real bad. #16, and a win against Arizona will have BYU in the top 10-15 next year.
Some years are like that.
While that is considered a "failure" season by Utah fans "this particular year", it would have been a dream year for Utah 48 out of the last 50 years.
It would have kept Fassel, McBride at Utah, and would have also kept the Utah fanbase from calling for Kyle's head the past three years.
Utes, I really hope you enjoy you chance in the national spotlight this year. BYU fans are sort of used to it.
I just hope you can recover from your beatdown on National TV as you slide back into the Ute "rut" of mediocrity.
"How's that National Respect treating you down in Vegas? How's it feel to be #4 on the Non-BCS depth chart, right behind TCU and just ahead of Ball State?"
Not real bad. #16, and a win against Arizona will have BYU in the top 10-15 next year.
Some years are like that.
While that is considered a "failure" season by Utah fans "this particular year", it would have been a dream year for Utah 48 out of the last 50 years.
It would have kept Fassel, McBride at Utah, and would have also kept the Utah fanbase from calling for Kyle's head the past three years.
Utes, I really hope you enjoy you chance in the national spotlight this year. BYU fans are sort of used to it.
I just hope you can recover from your beatdown on National TV as you slide back into the Ute "rut" of mediocrity.
Too much talk! | 3:15 p.m. Dec. 17, 2008
Everyone should really shut their traps until after all the bowl games. All
these stats and running at the mouth is really laughable. Let's wait and
see. I'm cheering for Utah and BYU. Go MWC!
My Support | 3:21 p.m. Dec. 17, 2008
Kyle,
You have my support this year. Feel free to see me if you have any questions. My suggestion, win, lose, blown out, or creamed, grab the microphone and speak to the crowd. That way they forget what they saw and will be enamored by your sheer "Kyle-ness". It works well for me. Nobody knows my guys are 5-4. Really, that's right. 5-4. See, nobody notices.
And Roll Tide (OK, sorry, I'm desperate for a win. I had no idea Southwest Baptist was soooooo very good. Who knew?)
Much Respect,
Coach Boylen
You have my support this year. Feel free to see me if you have any questions. My suggestion, win, lose, blown out, or creamed, grab the microphone and speak to the crowd. That way they forget what they saw and will be enamored by your sheer "Kyle-ness". It works well for me. Nobody knows my guys are 5-4. Really, that's right. 5-4. See, nobody notices.
And Roll Tide (OK, sorry, I'm desperate for a win. I had no idea Southwest Baptist was soooooo very good. Who knew?)
Much Respect,
Coach Boylen
re: MADRYBEG | 3:23 p.m. Dec. 17, 2008
I agree. If you look at BYU's overall bowl wins you will find that their
victories are all close, but those noted. Although the names of Colorado,
Oklahoma, Oregon, and Ucla make the list of teams BYU has beaten in a bowl game
these teams were mediocre themselves.
OVERALL PICTURE: what are you getting at, exactly? If you are saying Utah has not achieved the same success as BYU there are many who would argue differently. Utah football all but disappeared for a while until McBride took over. BYU had a hiatus during the Crowton years. What is your point?
BYU fans need to cheer for Utah in this bowl game. If you want your team to recieve recognition then you need your conference, in this case your rival, to win this game.
GO UTES!! MAKE US PROUD!
OVERALL PICTURE: what are you getting at, exactly? If you are saying Utah has not achieved the same success as BYU there are many who would argue differently. Utah football all but disappeared for a while until McBride took over. BYU had a hiatus during the Crowton years. What is your point?
BYU fans need to cheer for Utah in this bowl game. If you want your team to recieve recognition then you need your conference, in this case your rival, to win this game.
GO UTES!! MAKE US PROUD!
RE: BAMA FAN | 3:30 p.m. Dec. 17, 2008
This is what it is like all year long...it only intensifies during the season.
I was an LDS missionary in Alabama (ROLL TIDE) for two years. I saw the rivalry
between Bama and Auburn and it is intense. I really have a hard time trying to
figure which is the better rivalry. As far as hatred in a rivalry Utah/BYU wins
hands down. But, the better rivalry is hard. Utah and BYU are not offered the
same opportunities year in/out Bama and Auburn are in the sense of National
implications. So, you have the National Championship race to throw in your mix.
Here you have a State owned institution (Utah) and a Church owned
institution(BYU). You throw the church vs. state in the rivalry and it makes
for good times! Can't wait for the Sugar Bowl! GO UTES!!!! (and roll
tide...shhhhhh).
Bama is vulnerable | 3:38 p.m. Dec. 17, 2008
Apparently Alabama fans don't know that Utah mans up all the time on
defense. They also don't seem to get that the Tide has an incredibly
anemic offense as it is. Their quarterback will be so confused by Utah's
schemes that he'll be sacked at least five time and throw at least two
interceptions. The SEC forgets that real quarterbacks play football in the
west.
The myth of the SEC will be crushed by the time Oklahoma buries Florida in the "championship" game.
The myth of the SEC will be crushed by the time Oklahoma buries Florida in the "championship" game.
danburtreynolds | 3:54 p.m. Dec. 17, 2008
RE: bamafan post #2
I don't know if it was you who responded to my first post or not. If it was you then we'll see you on the field, mister. Or you can come to my seats and say hello (section 618 row 23 seats 1-4)
Regarding your second post you are absolutely right. Around these parts people call it the best rivalry that nobody knows about. But if you really want see blood and guts, go to a church basketball game, it makes this stuff look like love fest.
I don't know if it was you who responded to my first post or not. If it was you then we'll see you on the field, mister. Or you can come to my seats and say hello (section 618 row 23 seats 1-4)
Regarding your second post you are absolutely right. Around these parts people call it the best rivalry that nobody knows about. But if you really want see blood and guts, go to a church basketball game, it makes this stuff look like love fest.
...Jones? | 3:57 p.m. Dec. 17, 2008
Wow, everything is just peachy in your world isn't it. Do you really
believe that rubbish, or is it just the diatribe you use to mask your
inferiority complex? Not real bad? You respond to a comment ridiculing the
Utes for no National respect, then claim that your Cougs are getting that
respect? Is your real name Dick Harmon? Does anyone outside of Provo Utah know
when the Vegas bowl is? Playing a bowl game on December 20th, before most
people have even finished their X-mas shopping does not equate to National
respect, outside of your worped world of Cougartown.
Exactly what National spotlight are BYU fans used to; keep in mind that 1984 was 3 decades ago! You just can't stand it that the Utes are the class of not just the MWC, but all Non-BCS teams. I'd define a "rut" as not being able to better yourself. Kind of like getting to the crappy Vegas bowl how many years in a row now? When your Cougars accomplish what the Utes have twice for the first time you can come back on here and use your calm demeanor and it would mean something, now it means nothing.
Exactly what National spotlight are BYU fans used to; keep in mind that 1984 was 3 decades ago! You just can't stand it that the Utes are the class of not just the MWC, but all Non-BCS teams. I'd define a "rut" as not being able to better yourself. Kind of like getting to the crappy Vegas bowl how many years in a row now? When your Cougars accomplish what the Utes have twice for the first time you can come back on here and use your calm demeanor and it would mean something, now it means nothing.
Paula Bice (of RJYH fame) | 4:04 p.m. Dec. 17, 2008
Dear Utah Fans;
Please realize that most of the Bama fans who will be attending the game are not of the holier-than-thou variety that all of these sportswriters write about. They want you to believe there is a sense of entitlement and arrogance in Tuscaloosa. Yes, we love our football and yes we expect to win every game. We do not however take it for granted! Maybe we did in the past, but we've been through enough in the past decade or so to know that every win is hard fought. We appreciate how special it is to have a history rich in tradition.
We are your typical hospitable southerners. We enjoy a smash mouth football game and will hug your neck when we say goodbye (win or lose). We expect common courtesy, but will give you as much as we get if you get in our face.
We are all so excited to be back in the hunt after such along dryspell. The Sugar Bowl will be awesome.
Hope to see you in NOLA...
Roll Tide!!
Please realize that most of the Bama fans who will be attending the game are not of the holier-than-thou variety that all of these sportswriters write about. They want you to believe there is a sense of entitlement and arrogance in Tuscaloosa. Yes, we love our football and yes we expect to win every game. We do not however take it for granted! Maybe we did in the past, but we've been through enough in the past decade or so to know that every win is hard fought. We appreciate how special it is to have a history rich in tradition.
We are your typical hospitable southerners. We enjoy a smash mouth football game and will hug your neck when we say goodbye (win or lose). We expect common courtesy, but will give you as much as we get if you get in our face.
We are all so excited to be back in the hunt after such along dryspell. The Sugar Bowl will be awesome.
Hope to see you in NOLA...
Roll Tide!!
Typical | 4:06 p.m. Dec. 17, 2008
Nothing like reading a story about Utah and its bowl game, with no mention of
byu, then reading comment after comment from byu fans. BYU is no longer relevant
in college football, so go get ready, byu fans, for your fourth straight
pre-Christmas bowl game that nobody will watch while the Utes prepare for a
second BCS trip in five years. Nobody cares what happened 20, 30, 50 years ago,
we care about today. 48-24 and 12-0 is today.
Chris | 4:17 p.m. Dec. 17, 2008
I sooooo want the Utes to win. But that's soooooo not going to happen.
Alex Trebek | 5:24 p.m. Dec. 17, 2008
I love it how all the yewt fans are gripping so hard on this game. All they
want is a respectable showing and they'll be satisfied. Way to set the bar
so high yewt-nation. Forget about coming into the ball game and winning the
dang thing. Just have a respectable showing, don't get blown out like UH
(like the Warriors really set the bar high, you can still get blown out but just
as long as it's not as bad as their blowout and you'll be fine), and
maybe keep it close until the 4th quarter where Bama's superior athletes
and speed will take over. Do all of that and Crymsin nation will forever adore
you!
Hoff | 6:23 p.m. Dec. 17, 2008
I bought tickets to the Vegas Bowl this year (sigh) but when I heard that
Hasselhoff was singing the national anthem I realized that I wished I'd
saved the money and sent it to Max Hall for an eye exam.
Utes, you had a great season and I have to admit I'd love the Cougars to be in a BCS bowl this year - and to do it twice in 5 years is a feather in the Utah program's cap. But the 2008 BYU Cougars wouldn't have been able to stand up to the Tide, and I'm not sure the 2008 Utes will be able to do so either.
I'd be happy with a Utah win that sticks it in the face of the "only-BCS-conference-schools-are-worthy-of-national-attention" crowd. Or maybe an even better scenario: Utah loses on the last play of the game on a blown call by the official. BYU shares in the conference money, the "moral victory" gets the MWC some national respect, and Ute fans still go home angry. (Yes, I still harbor some resentment for the time I was hit in the head by a thrown apple in Rice Stadium when I was 7 years old)
Utes, you had a great season and I have to admit I'd love the Cougars to be in a BCS bowl this year - and to do it twice in 5 years is a feather in the Utah program's cap. But the 2008 BYU Cougars wouldn't have been able to stand up to the Tide, and I'm not sure the 2008 Utes will be able to do so either.
I'd be happy with a Utah win that sticks it in the face of the "only-BCS-conference-schools-are-worthy-of-national-attention" crowd. Or maybe an even better scenario: Utah loses on the last play of the game on a blown call by the official. BYU shares in the conference money, the "moral victory" gets the MWC some national respect, and Ute fans still go home angry. (Yes, I still harbor some resentment for the time I was hit in the head by a thrown apple in Rice Stadium when I was 7 years old)
General Lee | 6:31 p.m. Dec. 17, 2008
The Mountain West will go 0 for 3 in the bowl games. Utah will keep it close
and so will TCU. TCU would match up better with BAMA, but will nevertheless lose
to Boise's superior passing game. ...And BYU will get exposed once again.
Roll Tide.
Utes #1 | 7:43 p.m. Dec. 17, 2008
I'm saving all of these funny comments from the BYU fans so that in five
years, when us Utes have our next good season, I can throw these comments back
in their faces.
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Wow, finally a Utah fan who gets it.
Is there any hope for the other Ute Fans to see the reality of the situation? I strongly doubt it, so, good luck at NOLA.