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Dont Believe | 12:52 a.m. Dec. 6, 2008

Lone peak is over rated ty is good but thats it Lone peak will struggle this year.... the only won state the last two years because of the size they have had..... nothin to take away from ty he is great player but the size has won them state and they dont have it this year if spanish or pg or even west jordan had that size last year they woulda won it all so yeah great win by provo they will repeat as 4A state champs but its hard to say lone peak will

Anonymous | 1:34 a.m. Dec. 6, 2008

i think its a bit of a stretch to say that provo settled the debate over who was better between them and lone peak last year with their win tonight. I don't know much about either team, but I know Lone Peak lost Funk and Sharp and i'm sure at least a couple other key players, and no doubt Provo lost some players as well. Great win by provo, but it's not like it has anything to do with last year at all.

Better team won | 5:37 a.m. Dec. 6, 2008

This was a close game and Lone Peak actually could have won, but the better of the two teams did prevail. Had Davies not got in foul trouble the game never would have gone to overtime. From what I saw Haws is going to get no help this year. Lone Peak took horrible shots and Haws bailed them out several times by getting to the hoop. But Provo had to use two or three guys to stop him, but no one else on Lone Peak showed the ability to help. Did you notice that Lone Peak did not make one three pointer? That was the difference. This is a poor shooting Lone Peak team. Provo is the best team in Utah. If Davies can stay in the game, they won't lose this year.

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Roller Mills | 8:04 a.m. Dec. 6, 2008

It was a great game and the future of BYU basketball is in very good hands. Haws is terrific in every way and Davies is an amazing talent. The surprize for me was Collinsworth. He carried the Provo team and brought them home. Both teams should have great seasons and compete for their respective state championships.

Anonymous | 8:23 a.m. Dec. 6, 2008

It's true that this win has nothing to do with last year but didn't Provo beat LP last year too? Make all the excuses you want but the scores prove it.

Provo is the better team in a clutch situation.

Too Bad | 8:29 a.m. Dec. 6, 2008

The Smith kid has two chances to win that game.

Say What? | 8:44 a.m. Dec. 6, 2008

How did last night's win during THIS season prove to you that Provo was better than Lone Peak LAST season in any way, shape, or form? I think it is a "bit of a stretch" that you even tried to make any analogy at all. Lone Peak would have throttled Provo last year. It's not even debatable.

If you look closely at the box score, only four players from Lone Peak scored. If that is the type of "balance" that they are going to get this year, they will not win it all.

It is early.... a nice win for Provo no doubt. But let's see how things play out over the next couple of months before crowning your champion in early December.

RE: Say What? | 9:27 a.m. Dec. 6, 2008

Provo did play Lone Peak last year and Provo won, so it is debatable. Get your facts right.

To: Say What? | 9:31 a.m. Dec. 6, 2008

Hey Say What? You do realize Lone Peak lost to Provo last year too, right? So much for your claim that "Lone Peak would have throttle Provo last year. It's not even debatable." Provo 64 Lone Peak 62 in Highland on 11/20/07. They played last year and Provo won. Therefore your statement is not just debatable, it's wrong. Nice try, but next time get your facts straight.

lost to them last year | 9:34 a.m. Dec. 6, 2008

Lost to them last year and still won state

pure point | 9:40 a.m. Dec. 6, 2008

byu better pray it gets collinsworth... he's the best point guard the state might has ever had... and for all those who are going to argue about haws... yes... collinsworth is a better point as i see haws a 2 guard

Anonymous | 9:46 a.m. Dec. 6, 2008

they both won state last year to all the uneducated... lone peak won 5a an provo won 4a.... provo won head to head.... and provo won head to head

What's to argue? | 9:48 a.m. Dec. 6, 2008

Provo won two years in a row against LP, say what you want about Haws for keeping his team in the game but he went cold on his last 8 or so shots

Lehi | 9:53 a.m. Dec. 6, 2008

Provo lost to Lehi last year. Lehi was the best team in state.

My logic is as good as some of yours...

The debate | 9:55 a.m. Dec. 6, 2008

was settled last year in Highland when Provo beat Lone Peak. Maybe the writer should have researched last year before starting his article in the way that he did.

Re: To: Say What? | 10:09 a.m. Dec. 6, 2008

I wasn't aware that Provo beat Lone Peak last year, either way it still doesn't necessarily mean that night in and night out they were the better team. Basketball is a game where any good team can beat any other good team on any given night. Lone Peaks size last year made them almost unbeatable, Provo did manage to beat them by 2 points but lets be realistic: that lone peak team may have been the best team this state has ever seen.

Anonymous | 10:13 a.m. Dec. 6, 2008

Comes down to head to head Lehi guy.

The fact is that no one noticed when Hunter transfered back to Provo from Timpview, but that will prove to be the biggest key to Provo winning yet another state title. Davies has a history of foul problems and Hunter is a nice back up and great compliment player. Kid is still growing and my opinion could make a nice JC player somewhere. You add a JC guy to 2 LEGIT D1 guys (Collinsworth being projected as possibly a bigger find than Haws by many) Watch out! Last year Provo won it with those 2 kids as a Junior and Soph and a bunch of par for Provo role playing rebounders, passers and defenders. This year they have added fire power to go with the hustle and above mentioned traits of all Drury teams.

Not a big Drury fan, but the man can flat out coach the high school game. Lewis should go back to the tapes of his Dad's teams from Timpview that were able to get Provo a few times!

Love this stuff! Wish my only son hadn't graduated last year!

Help | 10:39 a.m. Dec. 6, 2008

Tyler Haws needs help! He was constantly double and triple teamed. He set up teammates with potential game winning and wide open shots and it was brick city all night! Still, Haws ended up with a game high 28 points. I would take Haws every day of the week and twice on Sunday over any player in the state. Thank goodness he is going to be a Cougar! For the rest of his teammates, they better get it together if they want to make a run at the title. Provo got lucky. Period.

Anonymous | 10:46 a.m. Dec. 6, 2008

to say that lp is down this year and that they will struggle, and then at the same time that provo will win 4a state, is kind of a dumb comment. the game was double ot, where lp had missed 2 wide open three pointers to win the game. they didn't shoot well, i think we all saw that. but losing in double ot to what you guys say "is the best team in the state" in no ways means you are having a down year. and if you think haws is all that they have, you must not of watched them roll bountiful, the number 2 ranked team in 4a, by 30 points on wed. lp will again win state. remember last year provo beat them in a close game, and lp never lost a game in utah after that...expect the same

PROVO | 11:18 a.m. Dec. 6, 2008

Didnt PG beat Provo by 30 last year?

Just wondering.

Think again | 11:59 a.m. Dec. 6, 2008

I don't know what all this hoopla is about Provo. Olympus is going to take State in 4A. They have got young kids who have won on every level.

Overrated | 12:04 p.m. Dec. 6, 2008

Always is such a vague word. The only people that rate teams are the newspapers and the fans. Ask Provo after 41 minutes if Lone Peak is overrated.

Past history | 1:26 p.m. Dec. 6, 2008

Lone Peak was 9-12 in 2006 only to go 24-1 the next year and win state. Last year they lost to Provo to start the year and finished the year off unscathed in Utah. Quincy Lewis is a great coach with a great history. Don't be worried Lone Peak fans.

dong | 1:29 p.m. Dec. 6, 2008

Olympus??? Wow you cant be serious can you? Haha your funny. That just made my day

Drury--the Jedi Master | 2:07 p.m. Dec. 6, 2008

Classic Craig Drury coached game. His suffocating Amoeba match-up zone and deliberate offense slowed down the pace to exactly what the Bulldogs needed. Haws was terrific for LP as was Collinsworth for Provo but Provo's supporting cast were a bit stronger. Davies has had hard time staying out of foul trouble as he played less than 1/2 of the game but came up big in the overtime sessions.

New #1 | 2:50 p.m. Dec. 6, 2008

When the next polls come out The Jaguars of West Jordan should be number 1 in 5A after a great win over Pleasant Grove last night. Good for you WJ you guys are very exciting to watch and I think you have what it takes to be a contender.

Ray to J Dub | 2:53 p.m. Dec. 6, 2008

RE PROVO: Didnt PG just lose to west jordan friday? oh i was just wondering.

Matchup zone | 3:00 p.m. Dec. 6, 2008

Still couldn't contain Haws. If his supporting cast shows up, Lone Peak can still be considered the favorite in 5A. If not, Lone Peak is still a contender albeit riding Haws's sore back.

Congrats to Provo. I'm expecting great things from both squads

To J dub: | 3:39 p.m. Dec. 6, 2008

PG lost to a good West Jordan yes. But thats not Provo. Arent you talking Provo HS basketball? PG rode Provo like a broken mule by 30 last year. You are just lucky PG hasnt got thier football players in bball shape/skils yet this year or it would be another 30 point thrashing. Kind of like football. Oh sorry...that wasn't a 30 point victory this year but a 49-13 thrashing. Tell J dub about that please.

PG Provo | 3:44 p.m. Dec. 6, 2008

Provo proved they couldn't contain Haws. How bout a more athletic Wilcox. And who on earth will guard LeSean Wilcox? Upset special. And remember last year after PG slaughtered Provo, Lone Peak crushed PG. So Lehi was still the best team in Utah last year.

Think again | 3:55 p.m. Dec. 6, 2008

Re: Dong - We will see who is the last one laughing at the end of the season. Olympus will be riding below the radar and will surprise many people at the end, but the ones who have been following this young team for over six years will not be surprised.

Dong Re: Think again | 5:54 p.m. Dec. 6, 2008

Ok they may get to the tournament but there is absolutely no way that they wil beat Provo. They may be talented but not enough talent to be Provo. Provo just has to many talented people to cover. 3 peat here we come

Anonymous | 5:59 p.m. Dec. 6, 2008

Olympus still has a sports program??

Quincy is a B Level Coach | 6:32 p.m. Dec. 6, 2008

Q has had more talent than ANYONE in the state for the past few years. Look at his ability to coach average kids and he falls way short. They don't play smart and don't take what's given to them. A few years ago didn't LP have a very average year without D1 players to bail him out? Q, get your dad on the bench to help you out.

LP Extremes | 6:38 p.m. Dec. 6, 2008

Looks like easy games LP has 5 to 7 players. Make it a tough game, LP and 1 1/2. No way they three peat. I agree Q is average, but next year will be the proof one way or another.

Coach D v Q | 7:39 p.m. Dec. 6, 2008

Coach D is the man! He isn't perfect but he is in charge and his kids respond.

I was worried watching the JV game that LP #10 would hurt us in the varsity game. This kid is no team player by any stretch (poor defense, shoots way to much, struts), but he can shoot the three. Well, in the varsity game, he did some damage with the '3', but not what I thought. Instead, he helped us get three point plays. (hopefully he's a Soph). Coach D doesn't allow players to play that selfish or foolish, so you can count on the DAWGS racking up more W's in the yrs to come.
Coach D is the teacher, and Q is the student.

Interesting | 8:26 p.m. Dec. 6, 2008

How I'm reading about LP needs Help...Coach Q cannot coach average players...and blah, blah, blah.

What happen to Haws making everyone around him better and stuff like that?

This team isn't the team we've come to know. However, they will make it to the playoffs. They'll do just fine this year. Nothing Great though.

magic | 8:29 p.m. Dec. 6, 2008

all i got to say is provo handled lone peak and its two years in a row. provo only made 50% of their free throws and big davies only played half the game. they are lucky to have stayed with provo for that long, congrats on coming close again.

OLY+PINEVIEW | 8:31 p.m. Dec. 6, 2008

OLY gets a big head and the newspapers make a fool of themselves ranking OLYMPUS when they were one and out PAST TWO YEARS at STATE FINALS!
OLY- like pine view have a very overinflated and unrealistic view of themselves because they are a big fish in a tiny pond but get schooled when they meet anyone outside their super weak regions.
LP is #1 no doubt until someone can beat them in a state tournament. however there are many teams from region 5 and 7 who will be fun to watch to find out who will get the dubious honor of playing them in the finals! here's an educated guess- it won't be a region 6 team and CERTAINLY not OLYMPUS and their rude and totally obnoxious fans whose parents and teachers never taught them about sportsmanship.

both good | 11:24 p.m. Dec. 6, 2008

look provo won the game last night, and I think that hunter is underated great role player, davies and collinsworth are both great players, and haws is just as good if not better. I feel both lone peak and provo will be playing for the championship in 4A-5A and both will be tough to beat. GO PROVO!

Re: Quincy is a B level coach | 12:16 a.m. Dec. 7, 2008

Actually, Quincy has taken good to average players and made them great. Jackson Emery didn't play as a freshman and was nothing too special as a sophomore (both years when quincy wasn't there). Also, as a Lone Peak grad I can tell you that quincy is an unbelievable judge of talent. Every year after tryouts it seemed like there was at least one name on the team that surprised everyone, but after a couple years turned out to be a very good player. I can tell you that when Bracken Funk first made varsity, most girl scouts could have dropped 30 on him, now he is at fresno state. Kimball Payne is another one that was initially surprising, and he's at dixie. 2006 was an average year because quincy cut several talented seniors in order to develop his freshmen and sophomores. Quincy knows what he is doing.

Question | 10:18 a.m. Dec. 7, 2008

How is it that Provo will roll to a State Championship again, but LP will just make it to the playoffs and do nothing special? Didn't that game go to double OT? If Provo is the best team in the state, and LP lost in double OT to them, how is Lone Peak all of a sudden not any good? You people are ridiculous. Lone Peak goes 0-14 from 3, which will not happen again all year. Lone Peak will still win the 5A championship, everyone needs to remember all of this talk in March after LP and Provo are both carrying their 3rd straight trophy. Quote it.

Indeed | 10:32 a.m. Dec. 7, 2008

Haws got his points but he wore down in OT sessions and missed some shots while Collinsworth nearly matched his output with 26 points but had the energy in the end to finish. That's what good defense does, it doesn't necessarily have to stop the star player but sometime containing him, especially in crunch time, with stifling defense. In the first OT, Haws was forced to give the ball up to a teammate who couldn't deliver with the game winning shot. In the OT sessions Haws did not shoot well. Drury's the master of great defense and controlling the tempo, I'm sure this wasn't the pace LP wanted to play at. Maybe when Provo plays PG it will be a different story but whatever you say Provo has beat LP two straight times and so far PG is great at being an early season monster but doesn't seem to deliver in the play-offs (in football either)...

Only the 2nd game | 11:50 a.m. Dec. 7, 2008

Man I wish I could have gone and seen this. Sounds like a great game. I think the talk of "who is the best" shouldn't even be started at game #2 of the season. Every team in the state has changed from last year and each coach is trying to find the right players to replace those that graduated. Enjoy it for what it is. Two great teams and a great game. Hopefully there are many more like this to come.

Provo will be tested again.. | 1:12 p.m. Dec. 7, 2008

Region 7 is tough this year.... Provo obviously is the favorite but teams like SV and Orem and possibly TV and MV will make provo work hard in those games. Every week will be exciting once region starts for these teams. Im calling it right now... i wouldnt be suprised if i saw 2, 3, or 4 of these teams in the final four.

B level coach? | 1:43 p.m. Dec. 7, 2008

maybe because his name is Quincy... id like to go by Q too

Great coaches? | 2:48 p.m. Dec. 7, 2008

Have to take mid level talent and make them great? I've always thought coaches were judged on championships and wins, which Quincy has 100 wins and three state titles IN SIX YEARS! And where does Drury fit in this? He must not have had any talent with the Wesley's, the Collinsworth's, etc etc. Quincy is a great coach. And Haws is a great player. Last I checked he passed out of a double team to a wide open teammate in OT who missed the shot. You can only do so much to make people better when they can't take care of business themselves.

provo fan | 5:41 a.m. Dec. 8, 2008

Both teams are good right now and will get better. I have seen LP players shoot better in out of state tournaments. TY proved to me that he is legit. BYU should be excited for their future in hoops. Provo will have to improve alot to enter state tourney as a favorite. Provo's guards are tough nosed players- Austin and Ventura. Their 4 spot in Hunter is also a great shooter and an animal on the boards. Good Luck to Both teams.

Frankie | 10:58 a.m. Dec. 8, 2008

We all know PROVO is way better than any other school and will probably win the title this year too.

ive played.. | 9:47 a.m. Dec. 9, 2008

againt haws and collinsworth. haws is and always will be a better player. even at the next level. haws has all the tools. collinsworths got the strut and thats about it over haws

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