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Published: Friday, Nov. 28 2008 12:36 a.m. MST

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Eugene

Boise State should sue the BCS for damages in a class action lawsuit. The nation needs a test case to bring down the BCS for what it is . . . a money-hungry restrictive monopoly. Never before has their been a case for a play-off and Congress should again investigate it. The courts should support the BSU claim and I'm positive that BYU, Utah, Auborn, USC, Penn State and others would also support the lawsuit since they all have been damaged in the past from the BCS exclusivity to the few.

The BCS has got to go!!

Anonymous

Auburn, USC and Penn State would never jeopardize the millions in cash they have because they are on the INSIDE of the deal Eugene.

Yes it is a monopoly. Yes I too hate it. The BCS makes all the other bowls largely irrelevant. However the Broncos don't have a case for being better than any of the one-loss BCS schools or half the two loss ones either. Utah does.

Who has Boise beat? Oregon. One quality win does not a season make. Utah has three. The MWC had its best year and the WAC had a standard one.

Red Truck 1

Boise State doesn't want anything to do with TCU. The Horned Frogs would expose Boise like Oklahoma exposed Hawaii last year. Boise will stay home and play a cupcake on the smurf turf. That way they can keep complaining that they deserve something for nothing.
That being said, The better match up for Boise would be (cupcake) BYU. I admit that would be a heck of a game. Something like 75 to 73.

BeefZerkie

Yeah Red dumpTruck, I'm sure TCU would "expose" Boise State. Kind of like Utah would in 06. And also Oklahoma, BSU is not in their league.

Oh wait, they gave Utah their worst home loss in 17 years and beat Big 12 champ Oklahoma didn't they? You know, the team that WHIPPED TCU this year.

And then there's that nasty little detail of scoreboard wins:
BSU 3 Utah 0
BSU 2 BYU 0
BSU 1 TCU 0
All three with at least one loss to BSU AT HOME! And lastly:
BSU 12 MWC 0

Yep, BSU can't even compete with the likes of Utah and it's MWC buddies. :/

Re: BeefZerkie

Man does it hurt when one lists a few facts! Well said, you go Bronco fan!

When will the average D1 football fan realize the game is played on the field; not with paper studies, computer algorithms, politics, or BCS monopoly money.

Join the MWC

If Boise State joined the MWC they wouldn't have this problem.

Heck, they would have lost at least three games this year and therefore not have to worry about which bowl game they go to!

Boise likes to trumpet their "gaudy" 12-0 record against the MWC, but play just one year in the MWC and I guarantee the losses will start mounting.

Talk about overrated.

MWC fans...

It is amazing how MWC fans like to talk about how good the conf is this year. Wow let see, there are quality wins against a terrible Mich. team, and one against Oregon State. Otherwise all of the top teams in MWC brag about is the wins against each other. Look at the bottom of the conf. They are terrible teams. TCU played one real game this year and was smoked. Utah has a signature win at Michigan and oh wait didn't Toledo also win there? WOW what a great win! MWC fans love trumpet their "gaudy conf" talk about overrated! The MWC would be a latereal move for Boise State. If the did the move, no one would see their games. Get over yourselves MWC, not being a part of the BCS you are a dirty stepchild too!

Reality

Boise is very over-rated this year. They are NEVER competitive in basketball.

The MWC would have to be nuts to invite Boise.

Beef Jerkie?

BSU is and always has been a flash in the pan team. One great win a year, and then WAC play. You can't look at past records to determine anything during this current season. This years Oklahoma team looks like it would kill the 2006 Sooner team, but you and I will never know will we. Like said above by your cronie, it's what happens on the field, and until the teams face up in a game all your talk is nothing but factless retoric. BSU Fans= Blah, Blah, Blah, Blah, Blah.

Observer

Boise State has taken care of every MWC team they've played. Good thing Utah didn't play the Broncos this year, or Utah would have been out of BCS bowl consideration. Until Utah beats Boise State, it's obvious which is the better program.

Jessica

Even if Boise were the best team in college sports, they have one huge factor that goes against any other conference inviting them to join. That one HUGE negative factor is that Boise is in Idaho!!

Re: Red Truck

Georgia demolished Hawaii last year in the Sugar Bowl, not Oklahoma. Two years ago, it was Boise State that beat the Sooners in that now famous Fiesta Bowl game.

amazingly lucky timimg

The main things that BSU has going for them are some pretty good (not great) teams and very lucky timing. They hit the jackpot against BYU by playing them during the awful Crowton years. And yes the first matchup was a BSU blowout in Provo but the return game in Boise was almost won by BYU except the Cougars missed a chipshot field goal with about 20 seconds left in the game. BSU dogged a bullet thanks to our kicker. And that was against a ranked BSU at their place in a season we ended with a losing record. BSU is good but not great like their fans believe.

re: Observer

Taken care of each team BSU has played huh? I guess a one point win vs BYU was a "taken care of" win, huh. You barely beat a down BYU team at home. Let Boise schedule 2 MWC teams each year, like TCU and Utah, and you'll see just how quickly your little streak will dissapear.

I agree with "Reality" and...

..."Beef Jerkie?'s" comments. Boise State has an over-rated, untested football team, and their other sports programs are very average. But the most annoying thing about Boise State is their fans who are obsessed with anything that relates to BYU or the Utah. We know that they are trying desperately to get our respect, but coming onto our newspapers and dissing our programs is not the way to do it.

Concerning "Observer's" comments, Utah would love to play you, and they would destroy you guys, probably by 30+ points. BSU has no defense. A better matchup would be BYU against BYU, but BYU would also beat Boise by at least 2 touchdowns.

A TCU/BSU game would be great. That way BSU can really see where they are at. (Although they might not like the taste of humble pie.)

Scotty

BSU defeated Oregon on the road. At the time, the Ducks were ranked 17th. Utah beat unranked Oregon State at home. Yes, OSU had beaten USC the week before, but lowly Stanford also defeated USC the year before. The only ranked teams (when they played) Utah has defeated are both MWC teams, TCU and BYU. Utah barely beat TCU at home. Oklahoma easily defeated TCU 35-10, earlier this season.

Boise State over-rated? I doubt it. It may be the Utes who deserve that honor. We will find out on 1 January.

bigutefan

Sorry Boise State fans, I truly wish you were able to go to a BCS game as it is not fair at all the way the system works. You did hand it to us in Rice-Eccles two years ago, but that was your team of destiny. Utah would have defeated you in 2004. I don't know if you can really predict the outcome of a game between Utah and Boise State in 2009, they are both good teams, but not great teams. I would like to see a MCW vs. WAC playoff game for an automatic BCS berth, unless the powers at be can join forces in a new league that is resected enough to become a BCS conference. Go Bronco's, GO UTES!

Bowl magic

With all the BCS conference tie-ins at lesser bowls, nobody can set up interesting games for teams like Utah, TCU, BSU, Fresno State, or BYU.

Why would it not be good for college football to have games in which TCU plays BSU and BYU plays Ball State?

As it is, TCU will probably play in Las Vegas against a poor team and BYU will play Nevada in San Diego.

The system is killing itself.

BSU v. MWC

BSU may be 12-0 versus MWC teams, but none of those wins came against MWC teams that finished in the top 2 of the conference that year. It's not too hard to beat Wyoming year in and year out. Utah finished 3rd in the MWC in 2006 when BSU got their "signature" win against an MWC team.

Fact is, BSU schedules timidly and then whines about not getting respect. Their out of conference slate includes cream puff teams and mid-level mid-majors (like Bowling Green and Southern Miss). They throw in a Pac-10 team here and there and when they beat that Pac-10 team they win all of their games and complain about not getting respect like USC and LSU.

And their fans honestly believe they will win a national championship in the next 5 years while playing that schedule.

Educated in Utah

I earned my undergraduate degree in the Beehive State and then off to doctoral studies elsewhere. As a youngster I fondly remember names like Merlin Olson, Eldon Fortie, Gordy Lee, and other legends. Following graduate school I returned to my homestate but always followed Utah. Names like Carter, Nielson, McMahon, Wilson,Young, Detmer, and Edwards still bring back good memories. Then add Stockton and Malone. I miss those good days.

So what are you doing now? I read the Deseret News and Tribune online to keep in touch with my Utah roots, and am sickend with the pettiness, envy, small minded and disgusting comments made about Utah and BYU by each others fans, and now I see both of them joining together to belittle the remarkable program up the road in Boise. I cheer for the Utes, the Cougars and the Broncos.

Stop the "holy war" nonsense that the media loves and fosters. All this negative unseemly dialogue is beneath you. Stop it. Most of you are active in your church.

Enjoy the MWC&WAC successes. Stop the mindless bitterness that reminds of ancient century old religious conflict in Ireland, and the religious anger in the middle east today.

Grow up.

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