Comments about ‘Calendar creator appeals diploma decision’

Wrong school, wrong church, wrong calendar. This goofball doesn't deserve a college diploma.

Im an active member of the LDS church and I support my church with all their decisions, but with BYU to hold back somebody's diploma that he spent so much time and money, to me thats not fair or right, I think BYU (LDS) need to realize that we are not setting up rules to destroy people's lives, we are are here as a church, to help and encourage people with their education. If the LDS church already excommunicated him thats one thing, but taking away his diploma that he worked so hard for and spent so much money on, to me thats plain wrong in my opinion. I don't think we as a church group, need to do that, especially that he finished all the requirements for his diploma. I know people that got excommunicated and they repented and came back to the church, We need to be Christlike with our actions and decisions, perhaps he might come back to church, isn't that our goal as a church to bring back those lost sheep.

Bozo knew the rules and flaunted them.
Flush his diploma.

As a BYU graduate, and an active LDS member, I am disappointed that BYU has chosen to withold Mr. Hardy's degree. They accepted him as a student and he apparantly completed his required course of study. Whether we agree with his current church status and his present business venture or not, should not determine whether he has earned his degree. If he had been found in violation of BYU standards and exp;eed prior to course completion, then he would not be entitled to a degree. What's next- stripping degrees from all graduates who have been excommunicated or found to be practicing buiness ethics not in line with BYU standards. BYu should worry about educating- society will make its own judgement.

Piety from BYU aside, they do allow non-members to attend and graduate don't they?

If they are going to withhold his diploma for unjust reason then BYU should reimburse him for his money spent to earn it as well as compensate him for the time it took him. BYU has the right to withhold the diploma, but the choice to do so should not be without consequence to the school.

Oh the woes of a tormented soul. Excommunication from the church is an act of love I've heard, but to deny a diploma is an act of torment which we all know torment is from you know who. I'm just going by my own tormented soul.

He did the work - I don't think it should be a big deal to give him the diploma. Had he been kicked out of BYU while taking classes, that's one thing, but he's finished all the work.

That's pretty petty and spiteful for them to deny him his diploma. What does the church gain from doing that? Revenge? It takes nothing away from the mormon church to give him his diploma but it takes everything away from this man if they don't. He worked for that diploma. Is revenge and spite what the Mormon church is all about? How unchristian of them.

But if the guy earned the diploma he should get it. You don't have to be a member of the church to get a degree from BYU.
What he did was stupid, but no one says you have to be smart to get a BS degree.

...people

You don't have to be LDS to get a diploma but you have to abide honor code standards.
Calendar boy knew the rules.
Calendar boy broke the rules.
NO DIPLOMA.

If he did not fulfill the requirements he should not get the diploma.

To Calendar Boy...

Think think think....

Oh Bother.....No diploma.....

Maybe he would be better off transferring the credits to another college that is more respectable, like USVC.

lighten up BYU, err on the side of mercy.

BYU in it's own policy has rules and procedures and the ability for students/former students to appeal any decision. Mr. Hardy was not given this chance. BYU violated it's own policy with this spite motivated maneuver.

You should read the letters sent to BYU and the church, maybe it would make more sense.

College degrees are not something you buy at a store and have property rights to until planned obsolescence sets in and you throw them away. The institution granting your degree may strip you of your "credentials" at their will and pleasure--they gave and they can take away even after graduation and giving you your coveted bit of paper. Seeing how long suffering and merciful the local leaders must have been for a fair number of years to keep him on the membership roles of the church is enough evidence of his fair treatment to me. The Honor Code is clear and plain and he knew that before he started his college applications process and he knew the consequences.

A BYU degree conveys the expectation of what people ought to be able to expect of your behavior if BYU grants you one. He was unable to meet HIS OWN expectations for himself that he set by going there.

He was excommunicated for conduct unbecoming a member. He thumbed his nose at the Church and what it stands for in a very public way, so the Church had to take action to protect its name. The same principle is at work here. As the comment by "Devaluation" indicates, possessing a degree carries certain expectations with it, just as membership in the Church carries expectations. Thumb your nose at the Church and by extension the university it sponsors, and you may find yourself facing a disciplinary council, the result of which is lost membership and lost opportunities.

How caring and Christlike some members can be when attacking someone. The images of rabid wolves come to mind. I think many of you need look deep and repair yourselves prior to espousing and ranting against members and former members.

So let's summarize. This person agreed to follow the rules. Broke them. Now this person is complaining that the terms of the agreement, that they previously agreed to, should not apply.

Am I missing something? If not I guess principles are being thrown out the door in what appears to be an anything goes world now?