Congratulations Juan Diego and I'm proud of you.
Congratulations Juan Diego on your Class 3A State Championship! Let's hear it
for the Catholics!! I'm loving me some Juan Diego...
Congratulashun JD! Your unbeatible!
Great Game Guys! You did a wonderful job! Way to go State Champions!
Congrats to JD on a great FB season!!!
Congratulations to Juan Diego on an undefeated season and the 3A Title. Congratulations also to Hurricane on a great year and a terrific run to the
Great game for both teams.Hurricane you represented So Utah well.The other teams
from down south were always blown out in their championship games but you hung
in there and almost won,great season!
Juan Diego's unbeatable? They're a very good team, but I think if they played
Hurricane ten times they'd split, or win six of the ten maybe. I don't think
I've ever seen a high school football team that was unbeatable.Anyway, congrats to them, condolences to Hurricane. Great game.
Great game to both squads!!!! Please do not start with the excuses on either
Juan Diego could beat anyone in 4A or 5A.
Interesting coaching decisions on Hurricane side of the ball! They will be
second guessing themselves for a long time. I feel like they got out coached!!!
Congratulations to Juan Diego, you managed to win the game even when faced with
adversity, in this case not because of the other team, but because of the
shameful officiating. This game shouldn't have been nearly that close. I'm
glad you guys played-on and showed that you don't need to have the referee in
your pocket to win.
JD Mom, Don't kid yourself. If you really want to test your theory though...
You're more then welcome to drive your team just up the street to play Alta :)
Congratulations..Yours is the first comment on this blog that was
either stupid or classless.Juan Diego is a good 3A team but would
have its hands full with the top 7-8 teams in 4A and would get run out of the
stadium against most 5A teams.Take this victory for what it is and
enjoy what your team has accomplished. Good grief
Hey, there were a number of LDS on the Juan Diego team too.
hurricane being out coached is a understatement. kicking it deep with 8 seconds
left in the half? great call. the on side kick ended up not hurting you but
great call? If Dotson cant run up the middle you might try getting him outside?
Congrats to Juan Diego !!! Great season - sad that next year the Catholics will
beat each other out in state being in the same region now. Thanks for
representing all of us so well.
Congratulations to Juan Diego and their coaches. They played a great game and
made the big plays. It was an exciting game.Congratulations to
Hurricane. They played very well and made it a championship caliber game. I am
very proud of the Tigers and their fans. Great season!Mr. K.
Pedersen, principalHurricane High School
I don't think your team could beat the timpview t-birds, they both have good
defense and high powered offense.
JD mom.....think before you blog
Good game to both teams. I think they both did good. Hurricane should have won
that one but dotson couldnt get up the middle as much as he wanted to. but good
job on the defense guys.
This is a Catholic School in name only.
Both teams played their best game in a thrilling heart stopper. As a JD Mom,
myself, I appreciate the nice words and good sportsmanship of the Hurrican
principal! Thank you. However, the officiating was a joke of the first order.
Yeah, it's always a joke when calls go against your team, eh? You trying to
tell me JD didn't hold on the TD that got called back, or what exactly are you
"This is a Catholic School in name only."This is offensive at so
many levels that one can only look at the "Words Remaining" count down ticker on
the side here and wonder "where to begin?" St. Juan Diego's story reminds us
that anyone and everyone can be called by God to do amazing things...and
miracles. The story of the conversion of Sam Skaggs calls each of us to treat
each and every moment with dignity and love. Our campus reflects the best and
brightest of our long tradition, from the Our Lady of Sorrows shrine that
comforts our grief to St. Michael who protects us (and our police officers and
soldiers and sailors and Marines). Not only does the day begin with prayer, but
so does each class. To get the day off for the State Game, our
students gathered over 10,000 books for "Invisible Children" in Africa (for the
school library) and, I believe, 4000 cans of food for the various local
pantries. Many of the faculty members devote countless hours to CCD,
RCIA and parish programs as well as providing moral, financial, and spiritual
help to many other causes. Think before you write. Pray about it.
Congratulations to the Hurricane Tigers. You playeda great game and had a
great season. Except fortwo plays you would have won the game. It wasone of the best high school football games I've everseen.
Congratulations to Juan Diego Soaring Eagle.You played with great heart
and were a worthy opponent. I'm proud to say I'm a former Tiger.
First off, congrats to Juan Diego Catholic High School - 2008 3A Champs! Great
season, great final game, great job.As to this comment: "shameful
officiating" Yeah, not so much. Calls against JD did come at some inopportune
times, but they were legit calls that should have been and were made. And that's
from a football fan with no horse in this race.
I agree. Jimenez, Ramirez, and Morales are all LDS kids just as much as if their
last names were Smith or Greene. And that Markosian kid. Other than his dad
teaching at JD he must be an LDS recruit. And how about May & Kenninger? I know
for a fact that their mom's only wear crosses so that their LDS kids can go to a
Catholic school. Maybe we should all band together and see if we can get a state
law passed that only Catholic kids can go to a Catholic school.
Big congratulations to the Juan Diego team and to their wonderful coach John
Colosimo. He is a hard working, humble man with class and integrity. He leaves
his players with much more to take with them in life than the 3A state
championship! He has earned the respect of many young men during his years as
head coach at both Judge Memorial and Juan Diego. Congratulations John!
To both teams. That was probably the closest high school game I've seen. Very
well played and coached on both sides. JD happened to come out on top but it
could have gone either way, and that's the way it should be in a championship
game. I'm proud of my Tigers though. Best 11-man football team ever in
Hurricane's history. Hold 'em high boys...ya did us proud!
how about that kickoff return?!?!?!?
Tyler you did great. You and your team did a fantastic job. The game was so much
fun to watch. Keep up the good work with your school work.
Although I'm a so Utah fan it was apparent that JD outplayed Hurricane.Total
yards were 333 JD to 231 Hurricane ,JD had one more turnover and the penalties
were way out of wack, 11 for 103 yards for JD and 3 for 6 yards for
Hurricane.Hurricane did a great job of just staying in the game and then could
have won it at the end.Way to go Hurricane even though you lost you fought all
the way to the end!
Congrats Juan Diego. You had a great team and it was a good game.We're all proud of Hurricane's season and how they came out in the second half
and went toe to toe.
Please it is not a Religion Game!! So quit! remember roughly 70% at school are
Catholic the other 30% is mixed. Why can't this community quit making this a
Relegion issue. JD is a great academic school and anyone can attend. Great Game!
Congrats to both!!! And JD yes you are the 3A State FB Champs and represented
all communites in the Salt Lake Valley!
Can't we all just enjoy the awesome football game that was played today? Was
there ever a moment that wasn't exciting? It was amazing, no matter what side
your on. Both teams were so great all season, they've got great players, great
coaches and great fans! Lets keep our dignity together when we put the comments
on here and just keep it clean. Great job to both teams! Congratulations Juan
Diego for winning!Congratulations to Hurricane for fighting the way they did!
Remember it's not if you win or lose but how you play the game. That applies to
all aspects of life, not just sports. Just keep it clean guys.
A commenter seems to be insinuating that your last name determines what religion
you are. Maybe for some.At any rate, congratulations Juan Diego.
Your team and your coach are a class act all around.
i think the commenter was being sarcastic.
What an ending , just from a fan point of view ...congrats to both teams , you
really were the two best in 3a .....Great year JD .....enjoy !!!
Got a lot of nerve, to be a hater after the season they had is just crazy, where
were you on all the wins? Coach Homer and staff, you did great this year and
you have our support.
Hey Tigers we're all proud of ya here in Hurricane. You guys played an amazing
game and theres nothin to be ashamed of...GO TIGERS
Hurricane players, coaches and fans, hold your head up high. You played with
class and you do things the way they should be done. Your kids, who are from
your community, represented your community well, which is the way it should be.
way to finish out the perfect season JD!!! Good job not letting the officials
ruin the game - they had something other than football on their minds but times
are changing and they had better get used to it. Good game Hurricane you played
Congratulations JD! Hurricane gave JD the best fight of the year. It was the
only game JD played that could have gone either way.
Congrats on the win to JD. But that had to be one of the most boring games that
I have seen at Rice. Run the ball, then run the ball. Although the kick return
gave it a little more excitement. I'll take a good spread option game, any day.
JD baby. Great game boys. We never quit. To Hurricane, great battle guys. Best
team we faced this year. That was anybodys game. We just got it at the end.
Other than a few exceptions, great posts on here so far. Let's keep it that way.
JD fan, nice to see you giving it a rest. Coach tells us to stay away from these
blogs and respect our opponent. And then you go and run your mouth. So what if
they did it first. We're better than that. The game was won on the field. NOT on
your keyboard. Hurricane, thanks again for an epic battle.
The best game all year JD is a awesome team good job. Hurricane great season see
you boys tomorrow get ready for the steaks and the girls. The coaches are going
to drop and give me 150 lol for kicking that ball right before half. JD had the
best D I have seen this year Hurricane is good
First off .. congrats to JD you made the play when you had to. To the HHS team.
You have fought as a team and as a parent with a boy on the team I couldnt be
prouder of you all. You showed heart and spirit and a never give up attitude.
To Coach Homer and his staff.THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU! You have taught my
boy and the team more things than just football. I have seen the sincere love
and respect you have always shown them. I am extremely proud and grateful to
have you as the coach and leader of the team. I stand strongly behind you and
your program. This is only the start to great things to come under the coaching
staff. It was a great game that was anyones to win. or lose.
You've got to love Utah... The best place on earth for people to whine about
religion, and be offended by tiddly wink comments...Don John - Thank
you for giving us the history of Juan Diego... But frankly, nobody cares.To anonymous - should have voted for school vouchers...To
anybody who used the word Catholic in their comment - get over yourself, no
matter which side of the fence you are on. To the person who is
going to comment about this - Ha ha ha ha ha...The real issue here
is a private school competing against a public school. Someday somebody will
figure out that the small town communities don't stand a chance against the
almighty dollar!Split the leagues and let the rich kids play against
If you have such a love affair with Coach Homer, why don't you support him when
things are not going good. I love how many of the parents in Hurricane were
trying to run off Homer after last year and now he is the best coach ever
because your team made it to State. Coach Homer is proof that given enough time
most coachs can build decent programs, but it takes time. The parents in
Southern Utah have the coaches on such a short leash that most coaches don't
stand a chance unless they can catch lightning in a bottle during the first or
second year. I hope the community will support Homer better, and I hope schools
like Dixie will realize the great coach they have. PV figured this out years
ago with Hosner the parents at SC will never figure it out. Secrist never had a
chance nor will any coach that follows. Too many "expert" football parents over
there. Hopefully we can keep some of these great coaches, get the progams built
up and bring some hardware down to So. Utah. Great job Homer, way to win the
battle both on and off the field!!!
Why even take the time to write in what really happened on the field today. Are
you Protecting Homer? Man what some Coaching he did as well as his Assistants.
Kick the Ball Deep with 8 Seconds in the Half. It cost you the Game, next Year
open up the O a little sooner in the Game and might bring Home the Trophy.
You watch how quickly the fans will turn on good coaches when they start to
lose,in the next few years Hurricane and PV are going to have bad years not
because of coaching but because the talent won't be there and you watch the
venom come out on the coach's.
WOW. Im so glad that you know whatI am all about. IF you knew all the facts you
would know I have been a supporter of Coach Homer in many ways and am not a
johnny-come-lately. Before you get up on your high horse you better get your
facts straight. I do not want to take away from the sucess of the season. The
boys, the coaches deserve better than that. I have and will stand as a proud
supporter of HHS football and the coaches.
3 touchdowns were called back for motion after the plays were compleated! Don't
most motion calls and flags fly or stop play during the play?FYI97% if JDCHS graduating class have been accepted to collage
Well here I am AFTERa good nights sleep and fresh watching of the KJZZ 14 game I
recorded!First, let me apologize for the overzealous mom comments
about JD being able to "beat anyone in 4A or 5A". Sorry! JD is a GREAT team,
but that statement is a little ridiculous.Second, GREAT Game
Hurricane! Smash mouth football at it's best! #54 YOU are a great player! My
hat off to you!Third, JD is 3A State Champions! JD 21- Hurricane
18! GREAT JOB JD! Defense WINS Football CHampionships as I said all year!Now a couple comments for "some" non-believers that posted before this
great game:1. JD's Defense overrated: WOW, just checked #1 Utah RB
to ONLY 53 yards!2. Region 8 WEAK? Yes, but apparently good enough to
produce 3A State Champion! I guess JD stats where not just against "weak"
teams?3. Where are ALL the Morgan Fans that said JD was going to LOSE?4. Hey, Diet Pepsi, NOT only did I not see you at the game I haven't seen
your post to apologize to these players!SUMMARY:Juan
Diego 14-0Juan Diego 3A State ChampionsCONGRATS TO BOTH TEAMS ON
JD won the game because the Hurricane coaches blew it. JD does have some studs
for players. They battled hard. Just saying that with a little better coaching
Hurricane would have been taking the 1st place trophy down south.
You applying for the job or just a monday morning quarterback?
I hardly say they blew it had they held them for 10 more seconds game would have
gone into over time, but they didnt they stayed in the game until the last 3
seconds I hardly call that blowing it, also its the players playing the game.Great job to JD!!! you played a great game
comments at 11:59 am: Hurricane LOSING had NOTHING to do with their coaches !
The players have to execute, no matter what the play calling is buddy! JD was
in the Red Zone 3x and did not score DUE to JD taking themselves out with
nothing to do with the Hurricane Defense, players or coaches! The score should
have been 36-10, but the sign of a GREAT team is being able to WIN despite
adversity, even when YOU inflict it on yourself in the form of self-enduced
fumbles, penalties, etc.JD controlled this game from START to FINISH
.... with NO excuses! So please do not start making them for Hurricane!
Hurricane was LUCKY that is was as close a game as it was, the BEST team won
Friday ...... AND it was Juan Diego!We all know MANY parents in
Hurricane DO NOT like the coaches and tried to have them removed. Start another
petition, but keep your excuses for the LOSE off this site trying to take away
from the kids who worked hard and WON!Have a great day! FYI: Homer
did great things with YOUR team, thank him for getting to State!
Quit blaming the Hurricane coaches. Obviously you dont know them. They are great
men and great coaches.Juan Diego fans who keep saying the
officiating was bad. It wasnt at all. The referees only called penalties when a
penalty was committed. Hurricane was the better team and if they
played again Hurricane would not make the same game-changing mistakes.
As JD Fan said before you posted. I agree! JD really walked all over Hurricane
and it had nothing to do with the refs, play calling, coaches, etc. The better
team and players won and would win 10 times out of 10! Hurricane could not move
the ball consistently against the "D" of JD and would not be able to do it if
they played again or again! Take the loss for what it is and acknowledge that
the better team won instead of making excuses about why Hurricane did not win
the game!JD won the game because they were the better team! PERIOD!Who cares if the officiating was bad, JD still won even if it was! Who
cares. WE are not Bingham here complaining about bad calls because we lost, we
won! Despite any bad calls or not. Yes, JD could have played a little better
(with less mistakes on penalties, but so could have Hurricane), should of, could
of, would of, WHO CARES! Juan Diego was the better team if I did not already
say that already because some people on these comments seem to not be able to
read to well!
To ALL the folks from JD who have commented on the bad calls, try and be a bit
more specific. Heres's your challenge: Name the 11 penalties you got and which
ones were supposedly "bad" or "poor". I bet you can't do it.Congrats
to both teams on a well fought game. Both Coaching staffs were terrific examples
and class acts.
I was at this Game and both Teams are one Dimensional. Why didn't the JD QB
throw the Ball more often? When he did he was spot on. And to the Hurricane
Coaching Staff, since when do you kick deep with seconds remaining in the Half.
And one more thing as long as you play your Teams in the Box instead of
Spreading the Field and this is for both Teams you wont be back at Rice in many
Years to come. Colosomo and fans want to blame the Refs and they won. ( Spoiled
) Hurricane needs to have the one Coach that was 5'5 350 LBS. to Shave and look
respectable for a title Game. This is coming from a Parent that was going to
send my Kid to Utah to Attend JD and I have changed my Mind, because he will get
no exposure at his Position Playing in a Box Formation. I have already set up a
Time to Meet with TV Coaches who Spread the Field like College Teams do. I am
not sure if this is Right or Wong.
you know I have to agree with you. Southern Utah parents are impatient and
living his/her past high school athletic career through their kids, and its a
joke. It is funny how last year the community of Hurricane got a petition signed
to get Coach Homer fired because he is making the kids work and be accountable.
He may have done some things to upset some parents but he is human, we all make
mistakes. And now he played for state he is a GOD in the community again. The
true test will be next season when he looses his senior leaders. As for the
other schools down there. PV went through change and tried to run Hosner out of
town, I bet your glad he stuck around! For being a lame duck coach its turned
out pretty good for PV. Dixie is Dixie either they love you or they hate you,
watch out Monkers. As for SC all I can say is grow up parents. I don't know
Secrist but give the guy a chance. How can you take a bunch of momma's boys and
turn them into football players in two years? Hang in there SC coaches.
how come nobody is saying anything about the 3 missed tackles on the ko return
and just the fact that they kicked it deep?
I will comment about the "three missed tackles" They are called "BROKEN
TACKLES"!!! #5 has game, and they couldnt bring him down. On video,there were at
least 6 players that reached for air to get him. JD special teams scouted the
Tigers tendancy to over pursue and the blocking parted the middle of the field
for 97 yard TD.
We will see how parents do at Hurricane and PV the next couple of years when the
winning stops.This years team from both schools were loaded with quality
seniors,the next few years there will definitely be a drop off in talent and PV
will have and even harder job having to compete in 4A.
Was the Logan-Juan Diego game still the state championship? Is Logan still the
second best team in 3A? No. You guys underestimated Hurricane, and the game
easily could have gone the other way.
The JD QB did not throw the ball more because they RUN the veer offense. How
ever your observation of his SPOT ON passing skills are correct, if he had the
chance to throw the ball 20 times in this game the score is not even close. He
is a VERY underated passing QB that knows the game as well as any QB I've ever
watched. He will go on to the next level and do very well.
...Hmmm, it appears that none of you could take up the challenge of SPECIFICALLY
naming ALL of the BAD CALLS by a poor officiating crew of the "first order".
Guess you're not willing to put your money where your mouth is.So,
NEW challenge (esp. to "Confused"): NAME the "3 Touchdowns (that) were called
back for motion after the plays were compleated!" When did they occur? Good
luck. (By the way NFHS Rule 7.2.7 describes "Illegal Motion"--which is a LIVE
BALL foul for all you who DON'T know the rules--which is MOST of you.)My suggestion, before any more of you Rules Hounds speak ill of the referee
who were assigned to this game, or any other, how about you go down to the UHSAA
Office and offer your VAST RULES Services. You'll be handsomely rewarded for
your time and for putting football ahead of your family, and all your friends
will be IMPRESSED by your wisdom and football intellect. Then, since the UHSAA
will put just about anyone on the field, maybe YOU can be assigned to officiate
the next 3A STATE CHAMPIONSHIP!Now don't walk away from this
incredible offer, I'm looking forward to seeing you there.JBPE
I've tried to post twice but they won't post it.#1 Pass interference
in the first quarter, JD corner beat the the receiver to the ball. Good defense,
bad call.#2 Holding on Morales in the second quarter that negated
the TD. The defender bull rushed Morales, as fell fell to his back and the
defender fell over the top of him. Horrible call that could have changed the
game.#3 As May plunged in for the winning TD(if it hadn't been
called back for a phantom false start on a WR) a huricane player was twisting
his helmet by his facemask trying to pull him out of the endzone. The offical
choose to ignore this.
How dare you say that Coach Cullimore (the "5-5 350 pounder") should shave and
look presentable, he has been at Hurricane for longer than you've been alive
and, had you known him, you'd feel the exact same way i do if someone wrote that
about him. plus, since when is high school football a fashion show? And its
also funny that you should question their offensive schemes when they obviously
were good enough to get them both to the title game, and to make two of the top
offenses in the state scoring wise. and the only loss between the two teams was
when hurricane lost to a 4A power from Pine View who barely lost in the
semi-final game to a football powerhouse. If you haven't seen
either of them play previously, then your observation from one game is biased.
your statements have no validity.
"Silence is Golden" IMO, The Umpire and Back Judge called an excellent game from
their respective positions. The lines men and line judge were marginal at best
and effected the outcome of the game. throwing the false start flag at the end
of regulation when JD punched it in was a very horrible call,( here you need to
understand the intent of the rule) I watched video of the play and was not able
to see any movement of a JD player... The ref ... well theres another
story,He lost total control of the game... his mechanics were poor, he allowed
Hurricane players to throw their helmets in a display of poor sportsmenship,
enter the field of play during the final play and not throw a flag.That alone
should have offset the JD illeagal participation flag.I agree with the
other posting on the negated TD because of the Moralas "hold" call... its called
a pancake ref... Summery: your over rated as an official and you have no
accountability to your poor performance, IMO, you need to be reevaluated.
Who else loved the skullet and visor on the short/big Hurricane coach?
I think there could have been a false start penalty called on every JD offensive
play. They go to their 3 point stance and never come set before the ball is
snapped. It was called a couple times, but not enough. A definite advantage to
a team that didn't need anymore.
Thank you very much for proving my point on the officiating crew at the 3-A stae
final game, they were inconsistant through out the entire game, even up to the
last play before the game winning kick!!
the last 3 teams that have played jd have let the refs know about their rolling
start offense before hand and several times througout the game. yes they were a
good team and definately any team that can roll into their plays has an
advantage over any other team. ALL the refs dropped the ball on that.
The JD quarterback calls everyone down and then they go on a snap count, it is
perfectly legal. If any of those three previous team's coaches felt it was such
an advantage then they were welcome to employ the technique.
They should get officials who don't have a hidden agenda (religious or
otherwise) for these games. Unfortunately in Utah that would probably require
Refs from out of state. In this game it didn't affect the final outcome (it
almost did) but it did affect the score, creating a situation that shouldn't
have happened. The Ref who's posting here should obtain a tape of the game. I
watched the game on TV, not only do I agree with the bad calls posted above, but
it's obvious that there was disparity in calls that always seemed to
conveniently be against JD. We all know that holding calls are VERY subjective,
and if you're looking at the line you could call holding any time. If the Refs
KNOW what they're doing then it's even worse, because it means that there was
intent in this.
Did you not have $6 to get in to the Game or what? Jd should have been called
for False Starting on O all game Long. And to Mr. Confused 97% of JD Graduating
Class is going to (Collage) or you might say College. You should Graduate from
high school before you post something on here.
Alta is definently a great team and so is Juan Diego! the only difference
between the two is the size of the schools. WAT ARE EXACTLY IS YOUR POINT? YOU
HAVE ABOUT 3-4,000 STUDENTS IN YOUR SCHOOL. WE HAVE ONLY 250 SENIORS AND ABOUT
750 TOTAL STUDENTS IN THE SCHOOL. SO YOU TOOK 5A STATE AND WE TOOK 3A. IF YOUR
LOOKING FOR THE BEST TEAM IN THE STATE, ITS NOT YOU! ITS ONE OF THE TEAMS IN THE
4A. ACADEMICALLY! WE SPANK YOU! ANOTHER THING. YOU BARELY BEAT BINGHAM. BINGHAM
SCRIMMAGES TIMPVIEW EVERY YEAR AND HAS NEVER COME OUT VICTORIOUS. LASTLY. IF WE
DID PLAY YOU, IT WOULD BE A BATTLE! THO WE MAY NOT WIN, WE DEFINENTLY CAN AND
WOULD PUT UP A FIGHT!
JD! You rocked. Good Job Hurricane, you did a really good job.I
wonder what would happen if Alta High School VS. Juan Diego at football,who will win?
What the heck does IMO stand for?
To...9:43,Nov. 24--1. None of the 3 penalties you referenced
were anything related to "illegal motion".2. I agree with #1.
Disagree with #2 (look at whose hands are holding whose shirt). Many issues with
#3: a) The FST was called on the entire OL--not a WR--who was rolling without a
full second pause after going into a 3 pt. stance--a clear advantage against the
Defense; b) No official "chose" to ignore a facemask call, because the facemask
call wasn't the focus of the play and did NOT constitute an
ADVANTAGE/DISADVANTAGE."The Official"--1. See 2a above; NO
PANCAKES were served that day.2. Both coaches were made aware that
the "rolling start" JD runs would be scrutinized, but it was JD who throughout
the game was inconsistent in its execution--causing their own penalties.3. I agree about the mechanics--not real sharp, and a bit rushed; but
had no outcome on the "control" of the game as BOTH teams showed excellent
sportsmanship."Horrible Officiating"--1. Please don't lower
yourself as a conspiratist. There is/was NO bias against JD or ANY school by the
officials--EVER!2. Out-of-State-Officials? Your choice:
Idaho/Wyoming/Nevada/Colorado? Utah has more active/former HS refs who are now