Comments about ‘Graffiti at LDS chapel treated as a hate crime’

Call the ACLU, this is a hate crime.

If I were investigating these crimes, I would not rule out individuals who are enemies to both Mormons and homosexuals.

These crimes are committed by the very few. If these crimes are committed by homosexuals, please realize they are not representative of gay people, and gay organizations have condemned them.

"Police are investigating it as a possible hate crime."

Gee, do ya think? And here I thought that all these LDS buildings being vandalized was just a bunch of random buildings being targeted. Never mind that the odds of 7 "random" acts of vandalism happening to 7 buildings belonging to the same church are astronomical.....it "may" be a hate crime. What a laugher....

Oh how the criminal mind works. Having worked in law enforcement for many years to include the jail I discovered some widely known facts.

Fact, criminals always justify their actions. They do not see anyone as victims except themselves. Is the same sex marraige advocates of the same mentality? Those of them who are damaging churches are absolute hypocrits. On one hand they accuse religions of being bigots and prejudiced. They say it is not fair so they turn around and damage property of another. Do they see themselves as the only victims? Well hear this, we who believe very strongly in the sanctity of marraige feel feel victimized as well.

Well here's a little preaching for ya. Old Testiment, "each did that which was right according to his own understanding." Given as a description of Sodom and Gamorah afteri their destruction. Sounds too familiar today.

Here's a thought, maybe God does actually condemn homosexuality (New Testiment). Maybe the gay community is trying to justify their own actions to that which is right according to their own understanding. Just because you want it to be true doesn't make it true.

"nobody's born a bigot"... to the person that tagged the wall, that may or may not be true... since he/she believes people can be born with sexual preferences why can't someone be born with discriminatory preferences?

another annoying elementary outburst... and to him/her that vandalized: just to make it fair why dont you go tag the other chirstian churches in davis county too? they arent on your side either.

"Nobody's born a bigot."

Nobody's born a gay, either.

Most people on both sides of the debate believe that the best way to move forward is with civility. In the grand scheme of things, a little graffiti on a wall is nothing to get riled up about. Let the police handle this one.

Before every one goes off on this latest act of vandalism maybe we should find out who's responsible instead of assuming who the culprits are.
to: bigots, between the terrible grammer and atrocious spelling I'm not sure what your point was, please clarify.
to: jjfarming yes it was a childish outburst, I think that's what you meant by elementary, but not all Christian churches side with the LDS point of view.

You're absolutely correct that all Christian churches don't side with the LDS on this; for me that doesn't matter. What matters to me is that I belong to a Christian church that does take a stand for something that they believe in, despite knowing that there would be plenty of negative repercussions

They have no leads, and they never will. Because they don't care. That's what those who did it are counting on. Oh, but it's not as "deploreable" as picketing right outside a temple. No offense, but that's hypocritical. I wouldn't dream of holding a demonstration right outside a jewish temple, or a catholic cathedral. But then I actually respect them for their own choice in beliefs.

To the poster filed as "Bigots"

Fact: the Bible is nonsensical. However, if you insist on using it to push your closed-minded, sheepish views, here are some other lovely passages by the god you quote; should we assume you believe these as well?

- God will punish men by causing their wives to be ravished(Isa 13:16, Zech 14:2)
- God gives rules and regulations for selling daughters (but not sons) into slavery (Ex 21:7-11).
- Rules for taking a captive woman to wife and what to do if you decide you don't like her after all (Deut 21:10-14).
- No woman should have authority over a man (1 Tim 2:12)

The bible is full of others and you can't conveniently pick and choose your quotes to simply justify your own biases. The point: stop being such a bigot just because your church tells you otherwise - think for yourself. Marriage is a man-made legally binding contract - stop pretending otherwise.

Let's turn the other cheek on this. It's unfortunate that these events are happening, but I believe a majority of No on Prop 8 supporters would be disappointed with the actions of a few who don't represent the whole. Let us all be a little kinder to each other.

They can destroy all they want. If i have to go to church at my house I could care less. Doesnt change my beleifs

Hate always breeds hate in reaction. Perhaps the LDS Church should try love instead of hate. Hatred leads to more hatred. Why is the Church so afraid of gays? Is the Church that weak?

The LDS church is not afraid of gays, Marriage is between a man and a women. That's what we believe. Should the LDS members start drinking beer because Budwieser is pressuring us? Start drinking coffee because Starbucks looks down at us? Get real here, hate has nothing to do with it.

My ward building in CA was vandalized way worse than this, and the police aren't even investigating, let alone calling it a hate crime.

It's not about hating them, in fact, they accept them for who they are, not what they think they are.

In any case, I have mixed feelings. I am a member of the church and I believe there should be a separation of church and state, and if it was separated PERFECTLY then gay marriage would be legal.

But I also believe that this country was founded on principles that are Christian, and we all know what happened with sodom and gomorrah... being gay is not right. So upholding the belief that marriage is between a man and a woman is something that should never change.

Why should LDS views on marriage be imposed on non-LDS members? It's not like gays were trying to force LDS members to enter into a gay marriage.

Marriage: everybody gets one before anybody gets two.

to:Are you surprised? Why don't you get it right this is one of probably hundreds of the churches that get vandilized or broke into and it is one of the few that are in the news papers. That is just because it is the most well know church and people are intimidated by it.
You need to get over your selves and respect what these people think and feel. They have their rights own rights and you need to eat your words.
They do not hate they just don't believe that same sex marriage is man made MARRAIGE IS FOR MAN AND WOMAN if it was right for same sex mariage both would have the reproductive systems capible for having kids.
Oh and i think that poeple should piont fingers back at themselves for being bigots because they take the rights away from other people. you just need to get your facts right about people.

The problem is that mormons used RELIGOUS beliefs to change LAWS (in another state). That is a problem with church/state. You cannot base your LAWS on RELIGOUS beliefs. It is simply illegal. Period. You mormons based your support of prop 8 on your religous beliefs. That's why I'm upset. Religion has done more evil in this world than it has good. Just my opinion.