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Rivalry week: Utes go BCS busting with a win; BYU most likely Vegas bound
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PS did you know the writings of Nostradamus cannot be found in the BYU library? Banned.
The evaluation data for BCS automatic qualifying conferences includes the following for each conference:
(1) the ranking of the highest-ranked team in the final BCS standings each year
(2) the final regular-season rankings of all conference teams in the computer rankings used by the BCS each year
(3) the number of teams in the top 25 of the final BCS standings each year.
with Boise State selection to BCS
MWC 2
WAC 1
with Utah/BYU selection to BCS
MWC 3
WAC 0
Oh, and before launching your next ad hominem attack based on an erroneous assumption, my degree is from the University of Utah.
BYU's
Well,the national chapionship is out of utahs hands. But at least they are trying to get there. It seems like the ulimate goal for BYU the last 3 years, is finishing with a 10-2 record and going to a vegas bowl. How Pathetic!
If #15 Michigan State beats #8 Penn State and #14 BYU beats #7 Utah, wouldn't BYU surpass Penn State. I think it might look like this.
BYU 12
Michigan State 13
Utah 14
Penn State 15
(Penn State might not drop as much because everyone loves their coach)
That would put Ohio State as the Big 10 rep.
Then BYU would need either,
Boise State to lose. They are playing 2 Wac games and I wouldn't guess them loosing either
Or Oregon State to lose to Oregon. I think they are pretty evenly matched, or if USC looses to the Fighting Irish would they drop below BYU.
IF Oregon State loses, USC gets the automatic bid and the at large bid would either go to a Big 10 School or BYU
but no true BYU fan would hope for a Utah win over BYU, especially this year.
-that the BCS was created?
-that the BCS monopoly was cracked?
-that all of the non-BCS teams now have a chance to play in the Orange/Sugar/Fiesta/Rose Bowls?
-that the BCS will eventually fold and usher in a national championship tournament?
-that all division 1-A teams will eventually have a chance to play for the national championship?
BYU's!
Another thing 84-BYU played a 6-4 team to win the title. Can you please enlighten us again on when was the last time a 2 loss team was playing in a national title game?
Your comparing an era that is dead; if all things were equal 84-BYU team would not be in a title game.
1980's
BYU 102-27-0 (79%); 7 conf & 1 nat'l championship
Utah 54-57-3 (49%); no conference championships
1990's
BYU 86-39-2 (69%); 7 conference championships
Utah 71-46-0 (61%); 2 conference championships
2000's
BYU 70-41-3 (63%); 3 conference championships
Utah 74-33-2 (69%); 2 conference championships
Overall
BYU 258-107-2 (71%); 17 conference championships
Utah 199-136-3 (59%); 4 conference championships
Last 3 years
BYU 32-5-0 (86%); 2 conference championships*
Utah 28-9-0 (76%); 1 conference championship
*possibly 3, depending on Saturday's outcome.
Can't wait until Saturday!
almost identical to
1996 BYU #5 in both (BYU's 2nd highest finish)
and just a little ahead of
1983 BYU #7 in both (BYU's 3rd highest finish)
A national championship in 1984 is just as legitimate as a national championship in 2008.
Ask any Miami fan if they think their 1983 National Championship is less legitimate than their 2001 championship because their 2001 championship was won during the BCS era,
or
ask any Oklahoma fan if they think their 1950, 1955, 1956, 1975, and 1985 National Championships are less legitimate than their 2000 championship because their 2000 championship was won during the BCS era.
or
ask any other team that won a championship during the pre-BCS era if BCS era championships are more legitimate,
and without exception they'll say you're an idiot for even suggesting that there is any difference between the legitimacy of pre-BCS and BCS era championships.
Fiesta Bowls: Utah 1 - BYU 1
National Championships: Utah 0 - BYU 1
Heisman Trophy: Utah 0 - BYU 1
Doak Walker Award: Utah 0 - BYU 1
Davy O'Brian Award: Utah 0 - BYU 6
Sammy Baugh Trophy: Utah 0 - BYU 7
Outland Trophy: Utah 0 - BYU 2
Still looking for something that Utah has done that BYU hasn't.
Utah will be easier than UCLA.
BYU 71 - Utah 17
If all things were equal, Utah's season would have been finished after they lost in the NIT.
Also, call Michigan and Notre Dame and tell them to return all of their championship trophies from the dead era.
Good and bad news for BYU fans, though, by striking the pre-BCS era records, BYU loses a National Championship and a bunch of conference championships, but at least the Cougars are now even with the Utes in the BYU/Utah rivalry, tied at 5 games each.
After Saturday, BYU will have the overall series lead for the first time since the 1890's, according to Utah's records.
already includes the conference championship for Utah in 2008 (soon to be shared)
both BYU and Utah will get credit for another championship during the 2000's and Overall, after Saturday.
-Utah beats BYU and secures the non-BCS bid
-BYU beats Utah and Boise State wins out and secures the non-BCS bid
-BYU beats Utah and Boise State loses and BYU secures the non-BCS bid
It doesn't matter what Ball State does, they won't finish ahead of all of the other non-BCS teams regardless of the scenario that plays out.
-Cougar offense will be rolling. They will have more success with the pass than the run. Unga will have more receiving yards than passing. Collie with have a big day.
-Brian Johnson will be up and down
-Cougars will get up big early, only to see a late Ute rally that falls short
- Cougars win in a shooout--
BYU 48--Utah 37
U got perfection!!!
12-0 and Sugar Bowl. (PERIOD)
YOU CAN TAKE THAT TO THE BANK!!!
"Your (sic) comparing an era that is dead; if all things were equal 84-BYU team would not be in a title game."
Uh, yes they would. You are discounting the fact that BYU was ranked No. 1 in both polls. Of course, they would have been playing in the national championship game.
(And yes, I know USC was ranked No. 1 in both polls and left out of the championship game a few years back. That is a travesty that likely would not happen again.)
You are also forgetting that back then the Holiday Bowl had only one official tie-in. The Holiday Bowl offered both Nebraska and Washington bids to play against BYU in the Holiday Bowl. Both opted to take more money and play in New Year's Day bowls than play the No. 1-ranked team in the country.
Don't try and compare Utah's undefeated 2004 season and no national championship game bid to BYU's ability to play for the title. BYU was ranked No. 1.
Don't give the Zoobs the opportunity to come on here and mock us for running on the field. I mean, fans have already rushed the field after wins against Oregon State, Weber State and TCU. Let's not give them the satisfaction this time around!
I don't care if King Louie bangs home a 56-yard field goal with 1 second left to win the game. STAY OFF THE FIELD! Win with class!
Not only that, we don't need to see Cougar fan commit a criminal trespass misdemeanor by storming the field for the third-straight year because BYU beat the fifth or sixth-best team in the PAC-10 by a blocked kick.
Act like you've won a game before. Stay classy Cougar fan!
GO UTES!!!!!! 12-0 12-0
We still have our bragging rights after beating you UTES back to back seasons...let us keep our bragging rights--if only for another 48 hours! We won't give up our bragging rights without a fight!
"This house is yours for eternity," said God. "This is very special, not everyone gets a house up here."
The coach felt special, indeed, and walked up to his house. On his way up the porch, he noticed another house just around the corner. It was a 3-story mansion that had a 50 foot tall flagpole with an enormous UTES flag, and in every window was the UTE logo.
The coach looked at God and said, "God, I'm not trying to be ungrateful, but I have a question. I was a good coach. I went to bowl games, sent a bunch of my players on to the pros, and I turned around the entire BYU football program."
God said, "So, what's your question?"
"Well," said the coach, "Why does Kyle Whittingham get a better house than me?"
God responded, "Oh that's not Whittingham's house, that's mine."
Thanks for a whine that finally outdoes mine for sheer absurdity.
The only thing that would make it any better is if we could get the "Leave Britney alone!" YouTube dufus to read your copy.
Just STOP it, BYU fans. I am SICK AND TIRED of it. Leave KYLE ALONE! Don't you know he is DOING IT ALL for you? LEAVE US ALONE! WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA ... WHY MEEEEEEEEEEE? WHY MEEEEEEEEEEEEEE?
Its my understanding that theoretically @ non BCS schools can go IF one is ranked in the top 8 (spot guaranteed) and another is in the top 12 and ahead in the BCS standings of a BCS conference w/ alower BCS rank. Right now, Cincinnati (big About #18) & Maryland (possible ACC champ about #25) may be on the outside looking in. How the ACC contract with the Orange Bowl affects this is unknown.
What is absolute is that only 2 schools per conference can go. Right now, it looks like the Sooners may be SOL and The horns and Red Raiders are in but that could change saturday.
Until the SEC & Pac10 are decided, this thing is as clear as mud
"I'm tired of hearing this..." "JUST STOP IT"
What's your problem buddy?
Big whoop.
Been there, done that, been them twice in the Bowl, as far as I remember.
BYU, actually the whole MWC, needs a MUCH better consolation for winning the MWC.
I'm almost starting to wonder if it would give BYU BETTER visibility if we lose to Utah and play in another bowl and beat a respectable team.
After the win on Saturday the Utes will be invited to their second BCS bowl. That will be two more than the Cougars have been invited to. Yes count it out cougar fans T...W...O."
And how many national championships do the Yewts have?
Uh......
This year's Utah team is NOT nearly as good as 2004's BCS busters.
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