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BYU, Utah football: Close game expected on Saturday

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Classless Cougar | 7:02 a.m. Nov. 19, 2008
I keep hearing that Utah is playing for a BCS game and BYU is playing for a peice of the MWC title. Aren't both teams playing for the MWC title and a BCS game? I know that Boise State (or a bunch of second place BCS teams) have to lose for BYU to make it to the BCS, but that means they're two games away. 1) Beat Utah and 2) Nevada or Fresno (the two next best teams in the WAC) beat Boise. Done. If Nevada pulls it out (which we'll know by half time of the rivalry game) then the second half is a BCS play-in. Both teams are then deservedly playing for a BCS spot.
uteowl | 7:16 a.m. Nov. 19, 2008
For TDS fans: Another chink in the "Quest" come Saturday boys. Don't fret though, 10-2 is respectable. But ....

12-0 IS Perfection!

GO UTES!!!
hootowl | 8:09 a.m. Nov. 19, 2008
13-0 AND a National Championship is Perfection!

I know, Utah never sets such adventurous goals as having an undefeated season and winning a national championship, so Saturday's loss won't be nearly as hard for Utah fans to take as the loss to TCU was for BYU fans.
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Out of state Fan | 8:20 a.m. Nov. 19, 2008
I think that most people reporting this are just being realistic, BYU doesn't have the odds in their favor to get to the BCS bowl this year. I hope that the Cougars have learned from the TCU game and come prepared for the quick Utah D, or it will be another ugly game for the boys in blue. It will be NICE though if BYU can pull out a win in SLC, very tough though. GO COUGARS!!!
CougarGlasses | 8:29 a.m. Nov. 19, 2008
Congrats to the Utes! They have had a great year but please do not think BYU will be an easy win for you. If Utah does win they deserve to go to a BCS game because they will have beat some very good team.

If BYU wins do we not deserve the same reward? If your UTES are so good and we win do not we not deserve some props? I love smack talk more than anyone but lets be honest either team can win Saturday. The fans who insult others with stupid comments about church, state, and personal attacks are ridiculous.

Maybe we could fcus on two great teams giving us all a great game Saturday regardless of our hate for one another. Go BYU!
1998 | 8:31 a.m. Nov. 19, 2008
Kaneshiro for President !!
utesinceborn | 9:03 a.m. Nov. 19, 2008
this will be a great game on saturday and i will be pulling for my undefeated utes. i love them and would never hope for the cougars to win but it will be a close gamea and i will be glad to have seen it. utahs defense is just as fast as tcu defense and the cougs will have to learn to work around that. but if utah brings there A game they will pull it out in the end. GO UTES!!!!!!!!!
Close Game | 9:07 a.m. Nov. 19, 2008
Wow! This writter really went out on a limb! Let's see, I predict that the team with the mosts points at the end of the game will most likely win! Please comment below...
Forrest | 9:23 a.m. Nov. 19, 2008
This week's game will be an exception from the "close-game" general rule of the past several years. You can't have two teams that performed so differently against TCU be all that close.
BYU fan | 9:50 a.m. Nov. 19, 2008
I am a diehard BYU fan and always will be...but I am being realistic this week.

My prediction is: Utah-24 BYU-14

Good Luck to both teams!
and
GOOOOO COUGARS!!!!!
hootowl you are a hoot.... | 10:14 a.m. Nov. 19, 2008
Go UTES!!!!
Re: Forrest | 10:22 a.m. Nov. 19, 2008
The TCU games were alot closer than you might think. The difference in the games, with both being on Thursday nights,is that BYU was on the road at TCU and Utah played them at home. Turnovers played a big role as well with BYU turning the ball over 4 times to TCU's 1. Utah had 1 turnover to TCU's 2. TCU mistakes cost themselves at least 12 pts against Utah.

Saturday's game should be very close and very entertaining.

Go Cougars !
Re: BYU fan | 10:26 a.m. Nov. 19, 2008
You're not a diehard BYU fan; but, your fanhood has died. hard.

Cougs will pull it out by 4.
If not, I have to record myself singing the Utah fight song.

Have faith in your team!

Go Cougs!
Forrest? Is that you Gump? | 10:33 a.m. Nov. 19, 2008
Yup! There you go comparing scores against common opponents. UU-TCU played in SLC, TCU-BYU in Dallas. TCU admits they were gunning for BYU and had practiced all year to beat BYU... Shame they didn't plan and practice better for Oklahoma. Beating OU might have put them in the mind set to beat both BYU and UU.

But back to comparing scores against common opponents. Why don't you look at the UU-AFA and BYU AFA games then? Seems to me that BYU had a better score against the same AFA that UU only beat by one TD.

How about BYU beating UCLA 59-0 while UU pulled off a thriller to beat OSU by a FG with time run out...

Okay, a little Forrest logic and we see that OSU beat UCLA 34-6, well, if OSU was such a great win and Forrest logic works, then BYU must be much better by stomping UCLA 59-0 while the same OSU that UU barely beat in the last seconds won by 28 points over the Bruins?

Forget Forrest logic. Let's just see on Saturday!
A Little Nervous.... | 10:36 a.m. Nov. 19, 2008
All the BYU fans at work I've been talking to keep telling me they're pretty sure that Utah is going to kill them. Now, I know they may just be bracing themselves but I am a die-hard Ute fan and I'm scared to death of this game.
re..hootowl | 10:37 a.m. Nov. 19, 2008
Wait a second, your leader just said that the "Quest" was not just about football, so your comments are incorrect.

I don't know which comment in this article and subsequent blog is more unbelievable. 1)That the "Quest" really wasn't just about football, and it was taken out of context by everyone in the world, or 2)That the "Quest" wasn't just about being undefeated in football and playing in the BCS, but was also a "Quest" for a National Championship? I love to rag on Preacher Bronco like everyone else, but I have to give the edge to hootowl. National Championship was your goal! I wonder why everyone outside of your bubble sees your fan base as arrogant and self righteous! I'd like to date Jessica Beil and drive a Maserati. There, now my goals are just a ridiculous as yours.

Do us all a favor, including yourself. Just ahead 25 years from 1984 to 2008 and face reality. Your Cougs will play in the Vegas Bowl, again. While the Utes will play in the BCS, AGAIN!
RED Man | 10:48 a.m. Nov. 19, 2008
Don't expect this one to be close at all. The media is pumping for a story. BYU has already proven they are the inferior team. I look to see Utah take an early lead and then by the half-a blow out. This will be a repeat of the TCU game only with a higher point spread. The final score will be Utah 47; BYU 3 (or something close). The Utes are REDy for this one!! YOU know it. BYU just can't compete. COUNT ON IT!!
TRUE COUGAR | 10:49 a.m. Nov. 19, 2008
How can you be a diehard BYU fan and think we are going to lose? That seems like a paradoxical statement, especially considering the caliber of our offense, and the way our team has recently played. I'm expecting BYU to come out like they did against UCLA. Of course, Utah is a much better team than UCLA, but they couldn't beat us if we execute the way we did against UCLA. We're going to come out fired up and ready to prove ourselves just like we did against UCLA. Our defense may not be top tier, but they are good enough to stop Brian Johnson and the funky bunch. My prediction: BYU 34 Utah 13 ...
you laugh, but we'll see who's laughing on Saturday.
More Forest Logic... | 10:57 a.m. Nov. 19, 2008
Utah vs CSU = Blowout. BYU vs. CSU = Phew, barely got out of town with a win.

Utah vs. UNVL = Blowout. BYU vs. UNLV = almost went to overtime.

What does this mean come Saturday? On the surface nothing. What can we take from these games though? Well, Utah is fully capable of taking just as much advantage of BYU's defense as either UNLV or CSU. Add to that the fact Utah's defense is much better than either of those other teams and BYU will have to be near perfect on offense to pull this one out. More than one BYU turnover and the Cougars won't be close enough for a last minute scoring drive to matter.
reply 10:57 | 11:10 a.m. Nov. 19, 2008
Your logic is not good,
Utah vs NM barely won
Utah vs Weber only won by 16
Your games have been close too, so hush.
Turnovers | 11:14 a.m. Nov. 19, 2008
were the difference in the TCU vs Oklahoma game
+4 Oklahoma

were the difference in the BYU vs TCU game
+3 TCU

were the difference in the TCU vs Utah game
+2 Utah

will be the difference in the Utah vs BYU game
+2 ??? will win
Pink UTES? | 11:16 a.m. Nov. 19, 2008
By spilling just a bit of Clorox needed to clean out the UTEs' mouths before the game their jerseys would be girlish pink - just like their team which will lose badly.

BIG BOISE FAN!
The MTN is the Only Winner | 11:22 a.m. Nov. 19, 2008
Monopolization of this game by the MTN results in losses by both teams. This game could have brought national recognition to the MWC, but instead it will line Craig T's pockets. This game should be shown on ESPN's game day.
Objective Sports Fan | 11:26 a.m. Nov. 19, 2008
The best indication of who will win can be determined by how both teams did against New Mexico. New Mexico's physical style of play is very similiar to BYU's.

BYU beat New Mexico 21-3

and

Utah beat New Mexico 13-10.

I think BYU will win by 11 points. 24-13. Louie will kick 2 field goals and the Utes will only manage 1 touchdown.

I think how BYU played at TCU is a factor, but that was a short week and they didn't come ready to play.

The other factor is how could Utah let Weber state score 21 points against them. Even if it was at the end vs. the 2nd team defense.

In a rivalry game anything can happen but the New Mexico game analysis is the key here.

My .02.
MikeB. | 11:38 a.m. Nov. 19, 2008
Ute fans are generally obnoxious, but on the other hand so are we. Its bragging rights once again. Cudos to the utes if they win. I don't do this ever, but I decided this year I am going to change my attitude. I will support the Utes in the BCS. Why? because its for the good of the mtn. west. We need to be recognized as a power. I hope the uts win. I am not conceding we are going to lose saturday though. Anything can happen in a rivalry game. Gordon Monson does say Hall is the better quaterback that won't win, but then again thats why we play the game.
RED BLOOD | 11:38 a.m. Nov. 19, 2008
I love the comment from "True Cougar." UCLA is a horrible team and that is the only reason BYU played well against them. BYU has looked awfully vunerable the past few games and they are going to get pounded by the Utes. BYU needed all that it could get in their wins over UNLV and CSU, while those were teams that the UTES handeled with ease. Not to mention that the last time BYU faced a defense that was as good as the UTES (aka TCU) they imploded. The UTES have way to much speed, and their defense will shut down the cougars. On the other side of the ball, BYU's defense is pretty pathetic and the UTES will run and throw all over them. This is going to be a good game, but don't expect it to be as close as everyone thinks.
UTAH-35 byu-17
BCS HERE WE COME AGAIN.....GO UTES
-oh and note to mendenhall, your "quest" idea was a joke
Forest & Trees | 11:38 a.m. Nov. 19, 2008
BYU vs AF = 14-point BYU win. Utah vs AF = phew, barely survived.

BYU vs NM = 18-point BYU win. Utah vs CSU = phew, barely survived another one.

What it really means for this Saturday:

nothing, absolutely nothing!

BYU and Utah both have very good teams; and both have weaknesses; both have survived close games this season; and both are fully capable of winning this Saturday.

-1 turnover for either team will be difficult to overcome

-2 turnovers for either team means certain defeat
Consistency Trumps | 11:42 a.m. Nov. 19, 2008
OK--I don't care about BCS money or bowls...I don't care about state representation...I want my BRAGGING RIGHTS...I want the UTES to eat HUMBLE PIE three years in a row...The cougars will take the championship back this saturday and I can't wait! GO BYU!
Real CLose Game | 11:43 a.m. Nov. 19, 2008
Utah's toughest games have all been decided by 7 points or less. Most of them 3 points or less.
Michigan by 2
Oregon State by 3
New Mexico by 3
TCU by 3
Air Force by 7(scored with 58 seconds to take lead)

Based on this season Utah has not blown out good teams. Against its five toughest opponents Utah has won by a combined 18 points. So to think that Utah will just roll over BYU by 24 is rediculous. The BYU/TCU game has no effect in this BYU/Utah. Based on Utah's performance against "good" teams even though only 3 of the 5 have winning records, Utah does not blowout opponents.

BYU 38
Utah 24
Reality | 11:43 a.m. Nov. 19, 2008
I want BYU to win, but I really don't think it's going to happen this year. It might be a close game, but I'm not banking on that either.
True Blue | 11:46 a.m. Nov. 19, 2008
Utes will be exposed for the Fraud of a team that they are on Saturday!

Ute fans Drool, and Cougars Rule!!!
BCS play-in | 11:49 a.m. Nov. 19, 2008
Getting to the BCS by winning the game for Utah will be great, as far as money goes. But they'll play an SEC, Big 12, or PAC 10 (i.e., USC in the Fiesta) team in the BCS. So winning will give Utah local bragging rights and a sweet wad of cash, but the big reward will be a good old fashioned and embarrassing butt kicking on national TV at the hands of Alabama, Florida, Texas, Oklahoma, or USC. The same would (will) happen if Boise or BYU or Ball State made it to the BCS.
Aaron | 12:20 p.m. Nov. 19, 2008
History says this game will be close. I like History
History Indeed. | 12:28 p.m. Nov. 19, 2008
Sprinkled in are a few BLOWOUTS, and this also will be one.
JBH | 12:35 p.m. Nov. 19, 2008
I'm a diehard BYU fan, have been for 40-something years. In principle I don't like Utah much, never have, generally refer to them jokingly as Satan's Red Children from the North. But here we have an amazing game, one that's being talked about from coast to coast. Both are really good teams; any idiot on either side has to admit that. I know we love to do the rivalry thing but each year it seems to get more bitter, more dripping with hatred. I'm starting to not like it. Of course, asking both sides to dial it back a bit is fruitless but I appeal to the saner, more mature among you to realize it IS just a game. It doesn't reflect on the goodness of either school or its fans, although those fans' behavior definitely does. I hope neither side's fans embarrasses its school. I don't believe either team will.
Anonymous | 12:47 p.m. Nov. 19, 2008
wow, I didn't think that 10 year olds were allowed to post during school. but seriously how do BYU fans justify a win? Utah has a better defense, BYU has a better offense, but they have a terrible defense(ie the csu and unlv games)
Receipe For Success | 12:49 p.m. Nov. 19, 2008
BYU secondary is bringing their pillows, so everyone watch out!!
Blowouts | 12:54 p.m. Nov. 19, 2008
as defined by an arbitrary spread of 21 points or more:

Overall series
Utah 23
BYU 13

Before 1962
Utah 19
BYU 0

Since 1962
Utah 4
BYU 13

WAC
Utah 3
BYU 13

MWC
Utah 1
BYU 0

Last blowout for each team
2004 Utah 52-21
1991 BYU 48-17

Biggest blowout for each team
1922 Utah 49-0
1980 BYU 56-6

Highest scoring game in series history
1989 BYU 70 Utah 31

Lowest scoring game in series history
1928 BYU 0 Utah 0

The chances for a blowout, for either team, are remote.
Slate is wiped clean! | 1:13 p.m. Nov. 19, 2008
Saturday, everybody begins at 0-0. Strap it up and see who wins. We'll see who's the last team standing.
Good luck boys!
RE: CougarGlasses | 1:33 p.m. Nov. 19, 2008
"If Utah does win they deserve to go to a BCS game because they will have beat some very good team."

Yes you are right TCU is a good team with a great defence. I can't see a team allowing an average 24+ points in the last few games to beat a defence allowing 11.

Utes 41-21
Re: Anonymous | 1:34 p.m. Nov. 19, 2008
How can BYU fans justify predicting a win?

Well, may because they are 10-1 and nationally ranked. Maybe because they are 32-5 over the last three years. Maybe because they are the defending MWC champions. Maybe because they have seen their team pull out two tough wins and Utah choke the last two years? Maybe it's because they have a great offense. Maybe it's because they've been watching their school play extremely well and get lots of national recognition over the past 30 years. Maybe because this is their biggest rivalry game and they are pumped.

As a Ute fan, Anonymous, you can be confident in your team and predict a win. No question. But to look at a 10-1 BYU vs. 11-0 Utah game and say there is no logical reason that a BYU fan can predict a win on Saturday in naive. They are both great teams and both could win this game.
RE: Real CLose Game | 1:47 p.m. Nov. 19, 2008
You are right BYU-TCU does not matter its how you're playing latly that counts.

So DREAM ON if you think on the road Y will score 38 on the Utes D, a D that is allowing 11.4 points the last five games. What about Y lets see try 29 per game in the last five.

RE: Pink UTES? | 1:53 p.m. Nov. 19, 2008
You mean like the competition you faced in the WAC?!?


Its like me going to Big-10 and talking smack, as Sarah Palin would say, "Thanks but no thanks!"



Pressure is on the favored team | 1:55 p.m. Nov. 19, 2008
BYU can justify predicting a win, the same way Utah fans justified predicting wins over the last two years. In a rivalry the team that converts when it counts is the team that will win, though. If BYU has the ball last, I predict BYU will win.
Anonymous | 2:01 p.m. Nov. 19, 2008
Real CLose Game
BYU only has one win against a team with a winning record. At least Utah is beating teams, who cares by how much.

Objective Sports Fan
Utah at UNM, UNM at BYU. Same as TCU games (TCU at Utah, BYU at TCU)so that game isn't a good indicator either by logic given by other wY fans. Plus Weber State could beat UCLA and the other crappy teams BYU barely beat(see UNLV,CSU). I don't know if Y fans are too arrogant to notice but Weber is ranked and has a really good team.

All that said, the game will be close. This is not the 04 utes that destroyed everyone they played, and this game is huge for both teams, even though BYU players act like it is any other game. Should be a great game no matter who win (hopefully tthe Utes).
To "Objective" Sports Fan | 2:03 p.m. Nov. 19, 2008
You are up in the night!!! You can't compare that any more than BYU-TCU and look how that turned out!
RE: RE: Pink UTES? | 2:10 p.m. Nov. 19, 2008
As I recall we slammed down the hammer on you in your house a couple of years ago AND defeated Oklahoma. What have the pinkish utes done but beat a less than mediocre team in their BCS game!

You'll be crying after Sat cause BYU will win and the Broncos will go BCS busting AGAIN!

Go Broncos!!
The question | 2:11 p.m. Nov. 19, 2008
the question is...
can byu's amazing offense pick apart utah's amazing defense or can byu's crappy defense hold off utah's crappy offense. Tcu had a good offense and even a better defense, hence the byu loss. Both teams have significant weaknesses that can be exploited if the other team can execute. Hopefully both teams will show up and give us a show.
Winning Record | 2:13 p.m. Nov. 19, 2008
"BYU only has one win against a team with a winning record."

Make that THREE after Saturday, and counting; but what's really important is BYU beating...

-an undefeated
-Top Ten team
-on the road
-and, it's Utah!
The smurfs | 2:17 p.m. Nov. 19, 2008
will get their chance to prove themselves when they meet the Utes in the Poinsettia Bowl on December 23rd.

At least it'll be warmer than the frozen blue turf.

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