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BYU, Utah football: Battles within the battle
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Nice to hear the voice of reason from any Cougar fan, classless or not.
You hit it right on the head. But not all Ute fans are drunken.
See you at the game, and may the best team (Utes) win. Utah 24, BYU 10.
All of this said, Sakoda is amazing, and he is better than Payne. But don't count Payne out because he can compete easily with Louie.
If both play their very best then the win is Utah's.
GO UTES!!!!
Last thought. Great teams find a way to win games. If it comes down to desire and confidence, the Utes will win...kind of a switch from the norm, Hallelujah!
GO UTES!!
GO UTES!
Banged up or not, the Cougars will come with all they have. If Utah had played TCU @ their house, they would have lost. So don't expect the Cougars to look like they did against TCU. Close game.....BYU WINS!!!!!!!!!!
GO UTES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Utah 19
BYU 38
BYU 27
Hooooooutes 24
GO COUGS!!!
Utah has the #2 defense in the conference, TCU has the #1. TCU #1 in the nation, Utah #7.
Scoring Defense:
TCU 11.0
Utah 16.6
BYU 18.7 (aka not #2)
Rushing Defense Nationally:
#1 TCU 39.5
#7 Utah 94.9
BYU not in the top 50 list.
Yards per game:
#1 TCU 220.0
#11 Utah 284.7
# Not on the list BYU.
Passing Efficiency Defense: (not yds/game includes yards, td's allowed, ints etc)
#3 TCU 98.3
#36 Utah 113.5
# Not on the list.. you guessed it.
Most Penalized teams per game:
#1 TCU 9.5 penalties 82.5 yds per game.
#12 BYU 7.5 penalties 68.5 yds/game.
#28 Utah 6.8 penalties 61.4 yds/game
(Congrats on beating us in something)
Yes we played Weber St..who is in the D I-AA NC playoffs. We also played #17 TCU and #22 Oregon St and won.
Who did BYU play? #119 Washington? check! 3-8 UCLA? Check! Northern Iowa? Check!
BYU 34
Utah 31
My dream: Max Hall engineers a heart breaking final drive. BYU 31 (4 touchdowns, 1 field goals) Utah 30 (3 TDs, and 3 field goals).
Scoring (Utes slightly Higher) Equal @ 36 ppg.
Offensive output required to produce points (stats):
Utah must produce 17% more offensive yds. than BYU's defense has allowed.
BYU must produce 56% more offense yds. than Utah's defense has allowed.
BYU must produce 9 more 1st Downs than Utah allow.
Utah must produce 1 more 1st Down than BYU allows.
The differential of Red Zone O/D is 2 to 1 in favor of Utah. They score more when in the red zone compared to their opponents ability to retaliate (score). Thats been big so far.
At a certain point in each game, Utah's D has figured out the offensive tendancies of their oppornent, and has capitalized on that understanding.
This is true in the case of both of their major wins,i.e. OSU, TCU.
BYU will give Utah everything they need to be successful. The BYU offense will have to play lights out ball to beat the Utah defense. They will have some success, but not enough. Statistically, it dosen't work out.
Human Factor: Utah will be playing downhill. They've been "Punked" twice, and they should be ready.
Unfinished business............... Utah by 5
Utes 33
Cubers 28
BYU +2 = a swing of at least 14 points
(-7 Utah, +7 BYU)
Revised Score
BYU 35 (5 TDs)
Utah 26 (2 TDs, 4 FGs)
Sorry Hooooooutes, BYU will kick butt on this one too!
No way that BYU's offense gets 56% more yards and 9 more 1st downs than the Utes allow. The only concern is if BYU is within 7 at the end. They do have a knack for pulling off the game winning drive, but then again, so does the U.
Utah 37
BYU 31
Not sure which offense will show up for BYU. We saw what happened last time the cougars faced a foe with defensive speed.
My pick:
Utah-38
BYU-28
Utah leads by three going into the fourth quarter 31-28. A TD with around five minutes to go puts the game out of reach. Max Hall throws an interception on the ensuing possession and the game is over.
To do that you'd have to play Huskies, Bruins, Cowboys, and Aggies. My, what an auspicious group that is...........not! They have a combined winning percentage of 10 and 42 (.238).
Your offense line was so good because your competition was so horrible. 2, possibly 3 (Wyo)
of those teams coaches have gotten the bump as a result.
The Cuber defensive will give Utah all they need to win.
GO UTES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
The only quality opponent you've played all year is TCU. And, we know the result of that.
Or New Mexico?
Then, how do you explain why Utah had to hang on by the skin of their teeth to win those games?
Utah could very easily have lost 5 games this season, and every one of those teams has a worse record than BYU.
BYU also had some tight games.
To say that either team has been dominant for more than a handful of games this season is pure homerism.
The game will be close and could go either way.
What will it be?
To win a second straight Poinsettia Bowl?
Oregon St. QB Lyle Moevao has 2 300 yard passing games this year and guess what 1 of them was vs. Utah at RES. In their 2 big wins OSU and TCU Utah has been outgained and surrendered over 400 yards both times.
Max Hall is in the top 10 in all passing statistics. Collie is the number one receiver in the country and Pitta is the number one receiving tight end in the country. BYU will move the ball on Utah just like TCU and OSU did. The difference will be that BYU will convert their drives into points.
1) A more rational argument would look like this: A) BYU stinks on the road.
B) The Cougars were on the road at TCU and got worked.
C) They're on the road against Utah.
D) Utah has the #2 defense in the conference after TCU.
Conclusion: BYU is in trouble!
2) "If..." arguments, while frequently used by Coug fans to try and justify their existence, are useless. The Utah-TCU game was in SLC and we won. Close game, but we still won. The BYU-TCU game was in Fort Worth, and you lost. BADLY! End of story.
GO UTES!!
Utah's not given up that mentality for better or for worse.
I just wish that BYU would treat it at least a like a prep Bowl game instead of an annoying fly to be swatted at. They're always looking bored as if they are bothered that they have to pretend to enjoy their role in "Utah's bowl game". It usually takes them 3 1/2 qtrs to look as if they are interested.
BYU better get on the ball and act like they care or else they're in for a "TCU" beating.
BYU - 27
Ewets - A "sheepish" 17
I think that the two teams are fairly evenly matched. Utah's offense is better than BYU's defense and vice-versa, so I expect a high scoring game. If the O-line and Fui can pick up Kruger and co on the blitz, BYU's offense will roll. But so will Utah's if BJ is on. I expect a high scoring game, but I think BYU has too many weapons to lose. But I'm also extremely biased. What good fan isn't?
BYU 38
Utah 28
Go Cougars!
W,W,W,W,W,W,W,W,W,W,W
GO BYU!
Go Cougars!!!
BYU's Unstopable (usually)offence VS. Utah's Unmovable (usually) defence. BYU's Offence is very good and they are going to move the ball. The question is if this ball movement will end in a touchdown, a field goal, or a turn over.
Since Hall does not throw very many pics, so I don't think that there will be more than 1 turnover. It will come down to whether or not Utah will force BYU to settle for field goals or allow touchdowns.
Utah's good but inconsistant offence VS BYU's good but inconsistant defence. Utah's O has been great at times and anemic at others. At times BYU's D has completely shut down opposing offences, while at others opposing offences hardly even noticed that they were there.
The analysis of this match up is almost the same as BYU's O vs Utah's D. Due to inconsistancies shown by both squads, nothing is certain, but I think Utah will be able to move the ball but the game hinges on the outcomes of these Ute drives. Touchdown, field goal, of TO? I don't think BYU will get more than 1 TO, so FG or TD.
Close Game. BYU 31 Utah 30
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I could go on, but I think you get the picture. And what, might you ask, would be the next logical piece of terrible news? You guessed it: Utes victory. Simply icing on the cake...
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My Analysis:
I don't think there's any question whose defense is better. BYU's only real strengths on D are Nixon, Jorgensen and their propensity for forcing fumbles. BYU's D will play not to lose and Utah's D will play to win (unless it comes down to a two minute drill for BYU and then Utah's prevent D hands BYU another last minute victory). If BYU leads the turnover margin by one or two and if Max Hall can get into rythm (which will be difficult against a very good Utah defense) then BYU wins.
If BJ is on then he can be unstoppable and I don't see BYU winning a shootout. However, Utah's offense has been inconsistent in big games. Also Utah had to rely on defense to put away UNM.
On the balance I probably give my Cougars a 40% chance of victory, but I'll be in the stands taking the abuse from the drunken Utes to cheer them on.
GO BYU