Comments about ‘FLDS mom drops action against Texas CPS’

Someway, Somehow, a way must be found to hold CPS accountable for its actions. Howwever, I believe that individuals can be held accountable.

Someway, Somehow a way must be found to hold the pervetrators accountable for their actions.

I beleive many individuals will be held accountable. There are now three more indictees who wont turn themselves in, looks like there might be a manhunt, Wheres Waldo M. Jessop?

I agree CPS should be held accountable for their mistakes. State, organization, police who let them, and management/politicians who made it happen.

Over 400 mistakes they made here, over stepping their bounds for each person they kidnaped away from their loving parents.

Calling what happened with FLDS in April "kidnapping" is an insult to anyone who has actually experienced having a loved one kidnapped.

Why do FLDS defenders insist on using such overblown, hysterical words and phrases?

"Calling what happened with FLDS in April "kidnapping" is an insult to anyone who has actually experienced having a loved one kidnapped."

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It's actually worse. When the government steals your kids in collusion with a judge, there's no one to turn to.

What do you want to call it if it wasn't kidnapping?

what do we call it?

we call it "protecting young girls from a religion that includes statuatory rape as a church doctrine."

I would call it a child abuse investigation.

LOL there it is again. No one "stole" the kids! If you insist on speaking about the children as if they were merchandise, at most you could say the government had them on rent-to-own.

No matter what you call it, or which side of the issue you stand on, those children were traumatized by the state's actions, contrary to the law, and there should be monetary compensation.

the kids weren't traumatized. they finally got to see how people live in the real world, and to realize it's not the sodom and gommorah that all you religious zealots said it is. maybe they can have a real life now....

raelitycheck, I suggest to traipse over to the truthwillprevail site and read the Willson's story, or go speak to the parents themselves. They ALL say those children are having emotional problems now, ever since they were abducted and held hostage by the state of Texas. They run scared for their lives whenever CPS comes snooping. Young children have regressed to wearing diapers. This all may have something to do with the aweful SANE examinations the state workers did on them, on top of other intrusive medical exams. They are all scarred for life, being forcefully separated from their mothers. It's a common predicament for kids who have experienced foster care.

Oh of course the FLDS wants monetary compensation. I can only imagine how much revenue they lost by having their 10-year-olds in state custody instead of out working at construction sites or home feeding the livestock, picking vegetables and tilling the fields.

Why don't we talk about how traumatizing it is to tell your kids that everyone outside their own small group is evil and damned?

Ripped away from your parents, made to live for weeks in squalid, overcrowded conditions... Hospitalized from gerardia (sp?), food poisoning, dehydration, and other illnesses brought about by your abductors... Unable to worship, kept up all night by marathon questioning, bright lights, and loud noises... Finally placed in the care of strangers who delight in exposing you to ideas, foods, and customs foreign to you, while being hundreds of miles from your loved ones. This is the real world?

abducted? traumatized? read the truthwillprevail site? as if it's actually telling the truth?

come on. we don't fall for your shenanigans anymore. You want sympathy? then stop handing over your daughters to statuatory rapists and stop worshiping a convicted felon.

you all are way out there, and you put your religion before your children every time. You want to be left alone? then put your family first and our religion second.

of course, we know you won't do that. so what's your next stop? Jonestown?

realitycheck, if all the underage girls from YFZ were in such danger of being married off, why are 9 out of 10 of them unmarried virgins?

I'll answer that question for you, since can't resist the urge to stereotype. These families are autonomous families. They behave differently. Some have said they would never allow their daughter to marry before 18. If a couple did, that's their fault, and their fault alone. Marriage in the FLDS (I'm not FLDS BTW) is a very private affair, and noone knows who's married to whom for the most part, unless the families are particularly close.

This was a relatively large community, with people coming and going. The police went in and painted them all with the same brush, and violated their Constitutional rights. They should have done things differently.

Joey -

the ONLY reason there were any unmarried underage girls was because Jeffs hadn't selected them for marriage yet. If you believe the parents wouldn't have done exactly what Jeffs said, then you are extremely naive.

realitycheck, let the families speak for themselves. It's those exact presumptions you are making that kick-started the illegal raid.

While I understand that older children got to experience life in the real world, younger children did suffer trauma when removed from their primary caregivers. The caregivers need to realize that they should not have anything to do with child predators.

Optimally, children under ten would get to stay near or with their parents and have supervised visitation. The problem is that the taxpayer doesn't want to pay for children all across the United States to be placed in a setting where there are a full-time supervisors and beds for parents.

The FLDS basically got what every other parent would get. There was a report of abuse, the FLDS were known to commit abuse.

These people were very clear that they didn't believe that Warren Jeffs was a child abuser even though a court found him guilty and there were photos showing him tongue kissing a 12 year-old. How can they protect their children from Warren Jeffs and others if they don't believe they need too? These children slept under a picture of what may be a child rapist. How much confidence would that give an investigator that these children are protected?

By the way, why aren't these men turning themselves in? Any theories? I remember Merril Jessop seemed to disappear fairly quickly. Maybe one of the warrants is for him. I was thinking that he may want all of the men to disappear so that the forces looking for them would have to be allocated to each of the disappearing men. Or he may want all of the men to disappear so that he doesn't stand out and signal that the FLDS men at the top are chickens. Another idea is that all of the men in this indictment were men at the top of the power structure and so all of them have disappeared. The FLDS may not want to bankroll the disappearance of all of the indicted men, but they may be willing to bankroll those at the top. Maybe they are still planning to turn themselves in.