I too went to Byu but only to watch football games and never miss a
game mac played. Oh and the Mircle bowl! what a game that was indeed. I
remember, whenBill Schoeflin caused a fumble with his tackling of the opponent
Glen Redd recovered the football i think at the y 45yd line and from their the
drove with about a few seconds left
You incorrectly used the terms latter and former in your sentence, unless Detmer
is still playing. Or unless you're trying to make a chronological reference...
but the way you used the terms it would refer to the previous sentence and its
order.Max Hall is a great quarterback, I'm sure he'll have a career
in the NFL. So I hope the Utes don't hurt him by sacking him every series.Collie is good too, I hope he starts having inexplicable tripping
problems or something.Go Utes.
Jim McMahon didn't invent the Internet. Al Gore did. Jim McMahon invented
I meant that he pantsed him, pulled his pants down to the ankles.
"Your mom goes to college!"- Napoleon Dynamight...so I told her to look at
Gotta love Jimmy Mac. For some reason I could always beat the point spread when
Jimbo played. He made me alot of money during his time in Provo...and as a
Chicago Bear. Spoke his mind, And showed
his behind. What a find!Wherever you are today
Jim McMahon also invented the internet.Poor J Mac Sr. Can't BYU throw him a bone, like naming a men's bathroom on campus after his
So Jimmy Mac is the only QB at BYU with a competitive fire?I can
think of two others. Detmer.......and Max Hall...the latter pasted the UTES
consistently. The former has just begun.....
re to sobwhat is a meberregarding historythe why
admitted years ago that they did not promotejim, who by the way was the
greatest qb ever at the college level.
Utah will win in resplendent style!
This article really begs the question, "Who was the greatest Ute QB of all
time?" I'm guessing most Ute fans would say, "yeah, it's that guy
who played with that Florida coach when he was here.....yeah, that guy."Looks like next year is another stay-at-home year for Ute fans.
Dude, that made not sense.
Wow this really puts what the kittens are saying into persective. Here's some
arguments made for the Y and some made against the U by the kittens. Interesting
how it's ok for thier own team but not U fans. -"Utes aren't ute
fans they're BYU haters". So it's a knock on the U fans to hate the Y but it's
ok for the Y's own stars to hate the school? _"Utes don't live right
and don't follow the honor code"- Well again neither do all of your players so
what's the problem?_"Y fans won't swear or taunt other teams or
thier fans"- Well it looks like your all star had no problem doing any of those
things._"The Y would be able to recruit better players but they only
take LDS kids with high standards"- Obviously a load of crap...Here, ladies and gentelmen is what we call hypocrisy. Way to go BYU. Practice
what you preach or shut up.
RE: McMahon's Mistake,"* No honor code hassles* No hours-long
meetings between Lavell and administration officials after the latest McMahon
antic* No charges of hypocrisy by Lavell and the administration* No
sweat over over him marrying a sweet Mormon girl"Lol, and no wins
BYU players are sissy boys. If you don't believe me ask their tougher than
@ediddyHmmmm......want a fudgescicle?
I contribute all my success to living right- on and off the field. Austin your
I remember Jim doing the scoreboard pointing thing on several occasions. I
never saw it as a taunt. I remember him doing it mostly in response to trash
talking by opposing players not to the fans. My guess is that former KSL
sportscaster Paul James will remember every detail of every incident including
the opposing player's name, the score at the time, how many yards Jim had thrown
for up to that minute, etc. :-) Give him a call Brad.
@ HSFAN:You are, indeed, pathetic.
BYU memories, "pants him" ?
He was promoted for the Heisman, heavily as a second tier program could in those
days. Detmer did not win the Heisman because he joined the "church". He won it
with 15,000 total yards before getting shelled in his final two games. Young was
a "meber", but if you recall, he didn't win the heisman either. Same for Wilson,
Scheide etal. What most won the Heisman for Detmer was the long line of snubs of
the preceeding QB's at the Y by the downtown athletic club. You must be a little
young to get your history straight.
How would it be to be a Utah coed and have to sing "I am a Utah Man"?At least, each one's a shining star,but, how do they feel about
that jolliest gang of men in the muss?
Wouldn't you hate to be Red man and have to be with Red woman...haha
Red Man is full of Red Bull. I think I just invented that!
I also remember the Miracle bowl, watching with my eternal companion, crying and
screaming like a little girl. It was special, and super sweet.Now I know
the Y will win, having atoned for their ways after TCU and back on the path to
I for one think it's great that his dad stands up for him, talks well of his
son, and is proud of what he accomplished in his career. Anyone who thinks
otherwise probably is embarrased by their children or don't really love them
like they should. What other explanation is there for someone who thinks
talking well of your children is wrong? Go Utes, the Quest for perfection
continues, thanks for the great idea Bronco!
I attended BYU during the time McMahon was the quarterback. One year the Beach
Boys came to campus and the students were told to form a line at the football
stadium. At the time the leaders were counseling the girls to not wear skirts
with long slits up the side.The line formed hours before we could
get the tickets and we all sat in the stands while the football players were
goofing around on the field. A girl walked down the track with a long slit in
her dress. The kids started chanting, sew up the slit. McMahon noticed it all
and decided to give us a better lesson in modesty. He casually walked over to
(I think) Clay Brown; walking up behind him as he was talking to another player.
He came up to him and pants him in front of the crowd.
I recently watched an NFL Films special on the 1985 Bears team and they also
suggested that McMahon was the player who started the headbutt or at least made
it popular. The narrator for that show said that the NFL has no other footage
of it being done before... Doesn't mean it wasn't done but according to NFL
Films it hadn't been caught on film
Jim wanted to go to Weber St, not BYU or Utah. Weber didn't offer him a
scholarship. He was lucky....He would spend his weekends in Ogden
when he didn't want to be in Provo.Now, if you talk to his Dad long
enough we may find out that Jim invented the wave too. Or maybe the internet.
"The score board could be broken by the end of the game."That'll be
Utah's excuse anyway... but, at least that will save them the embarrassment of
seeing the final score as the clock winds down to 0:00.
4th, 18, 49, hut, hutRivalry week - gotta love itI hope
to hear Max use the cadence above when he comes to the line of scrimmage on
Saturday.Jim definitely would have done something like that.
Isn't it kind of immature to care so much about getting credit for a 9th grade
I too went to BYU during McMahon era. I loved watching the team during those
years. My biggest memory of Jimmy boy---- Walking down the upstairs hall of the
Richards PE building, being 9 months pregnant and having to move out of Jim's
way as he strutted down the hall.( BYU Hall of Fame I hope not!)
I can remember the Utes big and only win over the Y in 78......It wa even more
intriquing after the game to witness the celebration by the big tough Yests
players following the game at the fifty yard line.......the yewt players formed
a circle and pierced each other ear's!! Nope not lying....no doubt these
players had a unique affection for each other not uncommonly found in SLC today!
....very sexy?? Come to think of it one of those yewt players even wore his
Jim was never here to cause any trouble he just showed to do the supper bowl
The score board could be broken by the end of the game. Utah will pound BYU
into oblivion. COUNT ON IT!!!
Hahaha... You really think that he would have chosen a school with a super tough
religious profile if the party school just up the road had had anything to
offer? Let me see... nah, the one thing McMahon wasn't was an idiot and only an
idiot would have chosen Utah over BYU in the end of the 70s.
it is interesting that although jim set 70 or so ncaa records, the why? never
made any real effort to promote him for the heisman, but because ty d showed
"the proper attitude" by becoming a convert, they went nuts promoting him. of
course he received a congratulation reception in hawaii shortly there after.
I really enjoyed every year Jim played at BYU. I know he was unorthodox and Ute
fans will rail on his antics. I think he was just a rebel and liked the
notoriety. I really enjoyed watching BYU throw on 1st, 2nd, and 3rd down all
through games. The problem he created for the defense was leaving them on the
field too long because he scored so quickly. I remember his touchdown drives
that would go for less than a minute all through a game. Everybody always had
lots of TOP; more than BYU. But we usually won the game.Jim could finish
his BYU degree on-line, but is so much of a rebel he probably won't. I'd sure
like to see him in BYU's HOF because he was one of the greatest. Of all the
things he did, I think he was probably tame compared to some of the guys under
Crowton. It's funny that Ute fans hate him so much when he was the most like
their players in personality. Goooooooo BYU! BYU 38 - Utah 3.
My grandpa invented the flea-flicker and the statue of liberty play.
I keep trying to win his sweepstakes, but he hasn't shown up at my door with one
of those giant checks yet. Too bad he had his house foreclosed.
I bet Jimmy Mac would like to give Brad Rock the one finger salute.
To: McMahon's MistakeImagine if McMahon had gone to Utah:*No NCAA records*No conference championships*No draft into the
NFL*No Super-BowlYep, Jimmy Mac really blew that choice.McMahon was looking for a high-octane offense where he could show off
his QB prowess, not a sub-par program where all he did was hand off to Pepper
Rodgers or whoever was back there. His second choice after BYU was Notre Dame
(he was Catholic).
"Imagine if he had gone to Utah:"*And a lousy team that would have
killed any chances of McMahon having outstanding college and NFL careers.
Well, one thing Jimmy Mac did invent was bad-mouthing your school the first
chance you get after finishing your college career. Whether he
agreed with the honor code or not, McMahon enrolled at BYU. No one twisted his
arm. He wasn't forced to attend. Yes, he was a great QB and one heck of a
competitor. I, too, will never forget the Miracle Bowl.But instead
of showing contempt for BYU, couldn't he have just said that while he thought a
lot of the rules were silly, he was grateful to Coach Edwards and the school for
giving him the opportunity to be the starting QB and parlay that into being
drafted by the Bears.His father can campaign all he wants, but until
Jimmy changes his attitude towards BYU, McMahon will not be in the school's HOF
- which probably means never.
There was a sidebar in a recent issue of Sports Illustrated about Jim McMahon
and BYU. I thought it was an interesting read, especially when he said that BYU
used him, and he used BYU. Also how BYU lied to get him to go there, very
McMahon Sr. thinks his Jimmy invented 'Helmet-Butting'. We did it before every
game in the 60's on my HS team. Did he also invent the forward pass?
Are you kidding me?
...was going to BYU. Imagine if he had gone to Utah:* No
honor code hassles* No hours-long meetings between Lavell and
administration officials after the latest McMahon antic* No charges of
hypocrisy by Lavell and the administration* No sweat over over him
marrying a sweet Mormon girl
What's with McMahon Sr.? Why is he so bent on talking up his son and making
sure he gets BYU to bend their rules to let him into the Hall of Fame adn making
sure he gets credit for everything from "Scoreboard" to the wearing of
headbands. Was Jim the first to do that too?C'mon, man give it up.
Your boy had a great run at BYU, learned a lot, has said as much, and then had a
great career in the NFL that now allows him to bum around, play golf and bag on
the college that got him there.Enough already. Every serious
college football fan knows what Jim McMahon meant for BYU football and knows
what a great QB he was. Give it up and stop the constant pushing of his
greatness. We get it and now it is just becoming a whining deal.
as the article states:"NOBODY KNOWS FOR SURE whether McMahon was the
first to use "scoreboard" as a taunt. But some who were at the 1980 Utah-BYU
game claim that's the case."So unless you have proof of someone else
using "scoreboard" prior to McMahon using it in that 1980 BYU/Utah game, then to
emphatically claim that McMahon didn't invent it is just as ridiculous.It's not at all like claiming your other examples, since we already KNOW that
Jim didn't invent those.
Jim McMahon hated the Utes.
Jimmy Mac was one of a kind and super competitive. With Bronco now at the helm
it's doubtful we'll see these types of players in cougarville again.
I'm a McMahon fan, but to claim he invented either the head-butt or pointing to
the scoreboard is ridiculous.No one had ever pointed out that their
team is winning when the other team was taunting them before the BYU-Utah game
in 1980?? That's like claiming the McMahon invented the Hail Mary
pass or breaking BYU's honor code. Sure he did it and was good at it, but he
didn't invent it.
I'll never forget the Miracle Bowl of 1980, the first bowl game I attended; and
yes, I stayed until the end.You were one of a kind and BYU was lucky
to have you play for them.As the song goes, "you did it your way."
There is no doubt that Jim is one of the greats. We were lucky to have him at
I remember seeing McMahon do the same thing against Air Force in a 1981 home
game. He was jawing with an AFA LB after yet another touchdown and I saw him
point to the scoreboard
In spite of McMahon being a ding-bat, I really liked his style of football! I
can't think of anyone with a greater competitive fire. His leadership on the
field was electric, and he made everyone else on the field better. My greatest
football memory is McMahon's Miracle Bowl. (Dang close is "Beck to Harlene,"
though. My wife and I were screaming! [She screamed like a girl, and I
screamed like a....ummm...really excited guy.])BYU by 1.