MLS Cup: RSL bounced from playoffs


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  • Sorry "Fan"
    Nov. 18, 2008 2:40 p.m.

    I'm pretty sure you are talking about me and my family over there in the corner. i hears you say "sit Down" but i just couldn't the game was wat too intense and you cant sit down durring a game like that. There is the family section so you know there people sit down more. Me and my family are great fans of the sport, we payed about the same for our tickets plus the cost of 8 season tickets, next time ask the ticket sales where its good for families.
    Way to go RSL congrats on the great season!and thank you for the props to the fans! We'll be there next season!

  • georg
    Nov. 18, 2008 8:10 a.m.

    Hard to imagine someone complaining about standing fans at a soccer game, that is soccer and a exciting game gets people off their seats.

  • ?
    Nov. 17, 2008 9:37 p.m.

    20,008 fans were there... what are you talking about

  • American Throwball has ties too
    Nov. 17, 2008 5:57 p.m.

    American Throwball has ties too.
    It looks like the haters just lost one more argument. -

    Tie? What tie?

    Thanks to Donovan McNabb, players around the league now must know there doesn't have to be a winner or loser in every regular-season game. Yes, there are ties in the NFL. They just don't happen too often.

    A day after the Philadelphia Eagles and Cincinnati Bengals played a 13-13 tie -- the league's first since 2002 -- the focus wasn't on how poorly the teams performed on the field. Instead, everyone wanted to know how it's possible some professional football players, especially a 10-year veteran such as McNabb, don't know simple rules about overtimes games.

    Looks like many haters don't even know the rules of their own game.

  • Lol, if you want to sit...
    Nov. 17, 2008 4:11 p.m.

    ...stay home.

    Glad your pops came, but I'm not going to sit just so you have a better view.

    Also....next time bring a smoke bomb or two...if you can't beat em...join em.

  • Mike
    Nov. 17, 2008 3:46 p.m.

    Re: I cannot believe.

    I thought the referee team actually did a really good job on Saturday. They let play go on, but called the necessary calls. Great job.

    Re: born in soccer land

    Espindola hasn't scored 12 goals. Where did you get that stat from? I agree that Mathis should have been subbed off earlier, but Deachar would have been the person to pull him off for. New York was packing the goal mouth and letting our wing players run free. A real crossing threat is exactly what was needed.

  • born in soccer land
    Nov. 17, 2008 1:48 p.m.

    Interesting enough, we had Andy in the bench 3/4 of the game. And with an ugly lack of definition we kept Espindola out, when he IS the one with 12 goals in 22 games played this season. And he is ready to play, he is not injured now, all was a blatantly mistake of our banner coach! Mathis playing err, walking for 90 minutes? Where was the offense? There was no preparation whatsoever from the coaching staff for this very important game.

  • I can not believe
    Nov. 17, 2008 1:13 p.m.

    There haven't been any comments about the horrible officiating. I saw at least 6 times when our guys got tackled like NFL style in the box and the ref was too chicken to give us the PK. It took him way too long to give out a yellow card and when our guy got kicked in the face like the picture shows that should have been a red card. I sat in the Cornel's Corner (sp?) and there was a play in the first half where the ball was already out of bounds and one of the NYRB players kicked the ball as hard as he could into the crowd. It's fortunate that my wife and I were on the 2nd row and a guy was standing in front of us because if he would have hit my wife in the face, there would have been a delay will security pulled me off him. I was suprised that NYRB's coach was so classy after the game though when he said we should have equalized but that's soccer.

  • Re: Fan | 4:36 p.m. Nov. 16, 200
    Nov. 17, 2008 1:08 p.m.

    I can understand your frustration, however... You know there is a family section for kids, and special seats for disabled and elderly persons. Sorry, but the MLS Western Conference finals was probably not the right time to leisurely take in a nice match. During the second half I think just about everyone in the stadium was standing. It is a domino effect. If people in front of you stand then you need to stand. It was just too exciting a game! I really really doubt the fan were doing it to purposely irritate you. 'One timers' like yourself fail to realize the true significance and emotion invested by us, the 'here from the beginning' fans. I've heard both sides complain about this. Spectators wanting fans to sit and fans wanting the freedom to stand. I think RSL needs to somehow make adjustments to satisfy both the idle spectators and fans. Both types of markets are very important for RSL to succeed as a business. Any ideas?

  • Re:Fan
    Nov. 17, 2008 1:03 p.m.

    If you don't want to stand then you shouldn't go to an exciting game. I got my tickets early and was on the 2nd row and it is impossible to just sit there when our team needs our energy. All we can do is get up and cheer them on to victory or in this case a unlucky loss. Next time get tickets earlier or go to something else if you don't/can't stand "the whole game" like the U of U games. There isn't a reason to stand at those games.

  • Oh no Rio Tiento
    Nov. 17, 2008 12:40 p.m.

    There was a tie in the NFL this week. Let's look back at your other posts and see what you think about a sport that has ties. It ok they also slid a ball through there legs and slap each other on the butts.

  • Great Game
    Nov. 17, 2008 12:06 a.m.

    First of all, I agree that the fans last night were great. I hope that over time MLS soccer in the US will catch on and we'll have that European feel to the matches. We've got the stadium already and I think some of the fans are on board, we just need to keep the ball rolling and I think that Saturday night gave us a glimpse of what can be in the future with more ENGAGED fans. Great stuff!
    As far as the game went, it's really unfortunate to see RSL lose on a goal that was such a fluke. RSL had loads of chances to put the ball in the back of the net but continually came up empty handed. Overall though, great play by RSL. Watching the highlights of the game on the MLS website is heart breaking, but once again, I think that this can be a glimpse of things to come in the future years of RSL soccer!

  • Re: Great Crowd
    Nov. 16, 2008 10:46 p.m.

    The stadium was sold out, so explain how it could be "mostly empty?" If you wanna criticize, at least open your eyes before you open your mouth.

  • Rich people come through
    Nov. 16, 2008 10:17 p.m.

    Um, Fan, this; I take it, is the first professional soccer game you have seen on TV or in person? You weren't aware that during playoff (or Cup, if you prefer) knockout games, fans get excited and like to stand up?

    Soccer fans aren't baseball fans. We actually care about the game. Watching the game for us is more important than chatting on our cell phones or going to get more nachos. I think that they could have put your dad in one of the special-needs sections with the folding chairs.

    I could not believe that the people in the expensive seats were actually standing up and making noise toward the end of the game.

    Way to go, Prawn Sandwich Crowd!

    The strangest thing I saw was some visiting fans. There aren't that many expatriate New Yorkers around here. Some of them must have stayed in hotels and paid that hotel tax. But on the other hand, seeing as they are New Yorkers, they probably boycotted our pizza.

  • re: Fan
    Nov. 16, 2008 10:01 p.m.

    To reply to Fan @4:36; good I am glad that you won't be coming back. We don't want fans to come if you are just going to sit there. We need more fans that are willing to get more into the game. Sorry thats just the way the game goes.

  • woooo hoooo
    Nov. 16, 2008 9:26 p.m.

    rsl loses. Couldn't have happened to a nicer (unwanted) team!!

  • Re: Fan
    Nov. 16, 2008 7:07 p.m.

    Very nice to label and entire state and 20,000 other fans for what you claim is bad behavior by a handful. That makes a lot of sense.

  • Great crowd!!!!!!
    Nov. 16, 2008 5:45 p.m.

    For a jr. high game!!! If it's true that "fan" paid anything for soccer tickets, he/she got ripped off because they give them out free all over the place. Most of the stadium was empty and the bottom line is, nobody cares. Soccer in America is dead and walking.

  • Snare
    Nov. 16, 2008 4:55 p.m.

    Not to sound like a jerk Fan, but the crowds at soccer games are a lot different than at other sporting events. They like to stand, chant, sing, throw streamers and smoke bombs (which was awesome by the way). It is kind of like standing in the student section at a college sports game. This is either bad or good depending on what you are expecting when you go to a game. If you don't like it that is fine, but don't call those fans jerks. It is how it is done at soccer games. By the way, the fans were amazing last night. That was honestly one of the funnest games I have ever been to. And we should be proud of RSL. Great season. Better than we all expected.

  • Fan
    Nov. 16, 2008 4:36 p.m.


    My family paid $25.00 a ticket to see the game and all we saw was the backside of the jerks who were standing in front of us, refusing to sit down when asked. The security guards were of no help. We were there, spending 350.00 for our tickets and no help when the people in front PURPOSELY stood there just to irritate all of the fans behind, they didn't care about the game at all, they were merely there to be jerks. My dad is 82, there is no way he could stand for the entire game, and even with my 9 and 12 year old standing didn't help them at all ... nor the little kids behind us.

    Shame on the security guards for not enforcing some kind of respectable behavior.

    We will NEVER pay to see a game again...since we didn't see this one either.

    Nice going jerks!!! We actually came to sse the game!! what a huge disappointment in the stadium the fam behavior and the whole experience.

    What a RIP OFF

  • Anonymous
    Nov. 16, 2008 3:09 p.m.

    Mathis was awful. If you watch the game he missed three oportunity to even get a shot on goal. One play the ball was perfectly crossed to him and he was wide open for a shot and he missed the ball. Unmistakable awful. He is not a good player. I really hope that we can get rid of him. For the love.

  • georg
    Nov. 16, 2008 2:15 p.m.

    Last night was a great night of soccer and RSL should have gotton the result, but thats what happen's in Soccer sometimes the goals just don't fall. I already look forward to next season.
    As to the play of Mathis last night? He stunk!!
    especially in the last 30 minutes there is no excuse for why Jason Kries whould keep clint on so long. He was spent and did nothing. In the biggest game of this teams history, its most dangerous striker (Espindola) sits while Jason's boy Mathis continues his 13 game streak of 00000000 in production.
    Lets hope Seattle is dumb enough to pick him up in the expansion draft. Or?? what if Kries makes him a protected player??? That would be about as dumb as playing him 90 last night.

  • REAL
    Nov. 16, 2008 1:08 p.m.

    We had three big mistakes. Olave's miss, Russell didn't follow his man and Kries didn't make subs when he needed to. I like Clint but you cannot leave him on the pitch just because you were his best man. Dema cries about not playing so he starts over Williams. This cost us the game. EVERY time Andy is on the pitch we have played better. I feel as a fan that we are yelling to have Williams in the game and all to often the coaches found a way to put him on the bench. Great year! Looking forward to next.

  • Soccer Fan
    Nov. 16, 2008 12:19 p.m.

    Salt Lake City wake freaking up. You hosted the western conference finals and some of you don't even know or care. Real Salt lake is legit and real and put it up. They dominated all game. They put on a clinic of how to roll a team. Unfortunately they could not put it in. I love real salt lake and hate all you salt lake county people who tried to move them out. Go REAL! And go Cougs! Utes are over rated bad!

  • Sub mathis?
    Nov. 16, 2008 11:40 a.m.

    What game were you watching, Mathis played great, he controlled the ball, came back and won it on several occasions, and did his job by drawing defenders away from morales. Mathis was awesome last night, RSL played great but was unlucky in the end. The team is much better with Cleatus on the pitch.

  • The Mind of Scads
    Nov. 16, 2008 10:20 a.m.

    An exciting game to end a great season...hopefully we can build from here.

  • Cowboy
    Nov. 16, 2008 9:56 a.m.

    Agreed, coach Kreis should've been more aggressive in his substitutions as this was sudden death, but then again with slightly more belief during the regular season the players would have trained that 1% better and been able to convert one of those missed chances which missed by inches.

    As the team converts all the haters into supporters they will only get better!

    This match was true drama and showed the nation that soccer offers something extra which no other sport can!

  • Welcome...
    Nov. 16, 2008 9:07 a.m.

    to the sports world of Utah filled with wouldas, couldas and shouldas.

  • Rio Tiento
    Nov. 16, 2008 8:45 a.m.

    All season long I have been using shallow arguments and cheap shots against this team, and yet the stadium sold out last night. Clearly I am just an ineffectual internet nut.

  • I agree
    Nov. 16, 2008 8:42 a.m.

    Dema had a great game vs chivas. But Once NY went up we needed better possession and finesse. Williams should have come on immediately. Findley's 30 mins were way more constructive than Mathis' 90. It's really time for him to go. With him not really delivering much it's fair to say The DR. should have been in much earlier.

    Truthfully, if the Dr or Findley play instead of Mathis over this stretch we do better.

    Maybe Clint should stay on D though, we know he can take people out.

    Yes, Olave created another NY goal...

  • Olave vs. Russell
    Nov. 16, 2008 8:28 a.m.

    yes olave dove in and completely missed but watch the replay and see who in nonchalantly jogging behind vandenbergh only to watch him tap it in. Oh yeah that was number 3 Russell. All he had to do was take 3 more quicker steps and he is in between the goal and the dutchman. Oh well maybe next year.

  • supporter
    Nov. 16, 2008 8:14 a.m.

    Three off the post, two NY hand balls in the box, and a forward further showing his uselessness (Mathis). I hope those two minutes I saw of Deuchar weren't the last I see of him in an RSL kit. THE RED BULLS DON'T PLAY SOCCER, I don't know what that was they were playing last night, maybe "sit back and wait ball" or "we're too bad to win on our own account so let's lay on the pitch for ten minutes." NY's showing was a disgrace to the sport. Columbus will crush them.

    Nonetheless, thanks for the fun season RSL. Keep your heads up, work hard over the off season, remember the confidence you gained these past games, and let's hope the management get us a true winger who can put a good cross in the box.

  • Anonymous
    Nov. 16, 2008 7:35 a.m.

    I blame Olave......poor decision AGAIN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • subs
    Nov. 16, 2008 6:52 a.m.

    Williams should have started!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 15 minutes of play for Williams and we are down most of the game. Not kreises best game.

  • Anonymous
    Nov. 16, 2008 12:53 a.m.

    Here is to those people who were saying Olave should have been the defensive player of the year for RSL. Another bad decision lead to Olave being beat by the Red Bulls. YOU CAN'T COMMIT IN THE FINAL THIRD OF THE FIELD!!!!! Well anyways, thanks RSL and can't wait until next season!

  • Anonymous
    Nov. 16, 2008 12:45 a.m.

    Are you serious? Kries made the right call leaving an attacking Russell on and taking off Olave. Russell makes great runs up the wing and creating chances.

  • Amazed
    Nov. 16, 2008 12:05 a.m.

    I'm amazed one of those didn't get between the posts tonight. Part of it is bad luck. Part of it is we need better finishers.

    We're only a few small pieces away from being one of the more dominant teams in the league.

    Here's to next year!

  • el guanaco
    Nov. 15, 2008 11:55 p.m.

    great game. great season.

    if only kries would've...

    ...subbed out the utterly ineffective mathis before the 90th minute.

    ...given andy williams more than 15 minutes to work his magic (he was sensational once he got on the pitch).

    ...subbed out russell instead of olave (we could've used him on those 10 corners)

    ...given espindola a chance to add to his goal total.

    here's to next year...

  • Gary
    Nov. 15, 2008 11:51 p.m.

    What a heartbreaker of a game tonight. Hats off to the RSL players and coaches. Thanks for a great season. With that said, the Red Bulls and their antics are what is wrong with soccer. The diving and fake injuries in the winding minutes were horrible. Soccer needs to change the way stoppage time works. With only 4 minutes added to the end of a match when there was probably close to 10 minutes of delays is horrible. Red Bulls have mastered stalling by complaining to refs and coming up with fake injuries to a tee.

  • Nazdar
    Nov. 15, 2008 11:35 p.m.

    Great job guys. Most people weren't thinking they would be disappointed that we didn't win the western conference. This playoff run was a bonus for me and I am glad to have been there cheering on the team. I have my seats for next year and can't wait for it to start. Go RSL!!!

  • a;lsjgalj
    Nov. 15, 2008 11:34 p.m.

    great season RSL!
    thanks for everything. and taking us into the playoffs for the first time.
    i'll be there for you everygame next season/

  • Joe Moe
    Nov. 15, 2008 11:20 p.m.

    No die hard soccer fan am I, but that was a fun game to watch, despite the low score and the ending. Three balls off a post, and so many other close ones. RSL won in every stat column except the one that counts. Here's to next year!

  • Phil from Australia
    Nov. 15, 2008 11:11 p.m.

    You have to feel for RSL, the luck just wasn't with them tonight as it had been before, but also congratulations to the people of salt lake for supporting the team throughout the season, looking forward to seeing you back at Rio Tinto next year.

  • RSL Ulty fan
    Nov. 15, 2008 11:05 p.m.

    Always an RSL supporter. Great season, just couldn't finish tonight. The crowd was amazing tonight. There should have been a lot more injury time, that New York defender acted injured for atleast 10 minutes in the second half. Oh well.
    We always have next year!!!

    Nov. 15, 2008 10:49 p.m.

    Good job RSL. We will be there next year to support your run for the cup again!

  • Real Fan
    Nov. 15, 2008 10:44 p.m.

    I thoroughly enjoyed the game. I felt like the team played great. Red Bull capitalized in the first have and we didn't have it in us to get one in. Thanks to a team that is changing salt lake into a soccer city. It was an amazing crowd tonight!!!!

  • Yura?
    Nov. 15, 2008 10:42 p.m.

    Yura was off his game from the first, he didn't sacrifice much effort for the rest of his team. I guess his streak had to end some time.

    The team had a great season

  • Rio Tiento
    Nov. 15, 2008 10:37 p.m.

    Chin up RSL, at least there are the orange wedges and the participation trophies.

    Nov. 15, 2008 10:29 p.m.

    Now we can all concentrate on the Utah/BYU game.

    I do have one question, how can a sport have a two-game first round of playoffs, followed by a one-game second round? By this math, the championship game would be one half, right?

    How soccer of you.

  • so unlucky
    Nov. 15, 2008 10:02 p.m.

    one mistake and hit the post three times... ran out of luck... glad RSL is respectible and to be proud of going forward

  • Anonymous
    Nov. 15, 2008 9:56 p.m.

    I've never seen so many balls bounce off the goalpost in my life. Yura, Mathis, and Olave really blew it tonight. I thought Findley was fantastic and set up extremely easy opportunities that our guys couldn't finish. We were gift wrapped at least 6 wide open nets and couldn't convert on any of them. Though I can appreciate how close we were on many opportunities, these guys are paid to win games and score goals, and they couldnt' get it done.
    ...Very frustrating game. Better luck next year.

  • Soccer Fan
    Nov. 15, 2008 9:49 p.m.

    Nobody cares.