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The world won't soon forget what the mormon cult's hateful history is about, denying membership and equality to African-Americans until VERY late in the 20th century, campaigning against simple equality for gays, Warren Jeffs who emulated Joseph Smith. most americans know that mormonism is simply a well-funded cult. you have indeed awakened a sleeping giant and you will now reap what you've sown.
2000 --- Prop 22.. YES
2008 --- Prop 8 .. YES
20?? --- Shall we dance again?
Why can't the pro gay's understand that WE DONT WANT GAY MARRIAGE in California? It seems that the east coast is calling for you. Move there, or be happy with domestic parterships here.
I've never been more proud to be a Mormon. Bring on the pro gay marriage props. We'll fight it again happily.
Story quote: "The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints' involvement in the issue has turned Utah into "ground zero" for the gay civil rights movement, Jeff Key, a gay Iraq war veteran, told the crowd gathered at the Salt Lake City-County Building...."You called us out," Key said. "YOU did this."
Ahhhh....the great "It's not my fault" argument.
Dude, that works up until you're about 6.
The church is reeling from this. STOP. All the members posting here just make it worse and worse. STOP. I can't beleive how the church leadership and members have reacted to this! You should be ashamed. I love my church but this is just to much, way to much.
Just as some homosexuals hope this issue has awakened their "sleeping giant", I am hopeful this ordeal will open up an honest discussion about homosexuality itself, its origins, nature, and consequences. My instincts tell me the more they continue to rankle others, the more willing people will be to tackle the issue. Since the APA removed homosexuality from the list of mental disorders in the early 1970s, mainly due to political pressure, research on the matter all but screeched to a halt, except for a small cadre of mostly gay researchers desperate to find proof that the lifestyle they lead is pre-engineered, and therefore perfectly natural and justified.
Some of the studies that have been performed, however, are fairly interesting. One such study, done several years ago, showed that among identical twins, if one twin was homosexual, there was approximately a 52% chance the other twin would be gay. Thats curious. If one twin is gay, and his/her genes are identical to the other twin, and sexuality is determined by genetics, one would think the correlation would be 100%.
But discussing the science is unpopular nowadays, with more emphasis focused on silencing all discussion by intimidating those who disagree.
On a different note, I'm puzzled by the gay community's argument that society should simply live and let live. What do heterosexuals care if homosexuals marry, they ask? Homosexuals aren't trying to impinge on heterosexual lifestyles or church rights, after all. But this argument has already been shown to be flatly untenable.
Take, for instance, a recent court case in Connecticut. A Protestant church refused to permit a lesbian couple to use their building to perform ceremonies. The couple took the church to court, challenging their tax exempt status, and surprise, surprise, they won. In addition, look at the heat the Boy Scouts of America has been under in recent years for their opposition to permitting homosexual leaders into their ranks. The city of Philadelphia booted them from a city building that they had leased for years because they wouldn't budge. Examples as these plainly show why non-gays care so much about the issue. This isn't simply about granting homosexuals the right to marry, its about precluding the negative fallout from such an action, which is the eventual impingement on the rights on organizations to marry whom they please, and to teach morality according to their own precepts.
Wow, the gay community really missed the reason why I voted for 102 in AZ. I votes yes becasue I felt that my beliefs were being atacked and my ability to practice my religion was slowly being taken away. This reaction is reinforcing that.
I don't believe that Mormons or anyone else(with some exceptions i'm sure) who voted yes, hate the gay community, I think they just felt that it was time to step up and hold to thier morals.
What right does anyone have to protest my vote?
I hope that EVERYONE can take a step back and realize that we are still children of our Heavenly Father and thus brothers and sisters. Someday we will come together again as friends and neighbors and let peace prevail. Sooner better than later!
EVERYONE has the right to marry.... as long as it's not with someone as the same anatomy as them. This isn't a civil rights issue. No one is being discriminated against. Gay people do deserve equal rights, which they already have. However, they do not deserve special rights to accomodate their chosen lifestlye.
Prop 8 died on election day. let's move on people.
We want to marry because of love...love not "inheritance or whatever"...therein lies the discrimination, we are not able to marry the person we love because we are gay.
It is a magnificent thing to live in a marvelous country, and to have the right to think and vote as I wish, and to use every talent and ability to convince others of my beliefs if not done by coersion or force. I believe that marriage should be defined as between a man and a woman. I went to the polls and used my agency to vote according to my beliefs and my conscience in support of Prop 8. I did not harrass or condemn those who voted otherwise. I personally did not initiate this opportunity to vote. The opportunity was presented and I voted. I have gay relatives and friends who live in lawful "unions", and have the rights I have. I do not feel it appropriate to redefine marriage to be anything other than between a man and a woman, for the protection of our society and future generations.
The LDS doesn't understand what equal protection under the law is and has behaved un-Americanly. Gay or str* -- we won't put up with it!
Why is it that so many mormon retorts contain the phrases: "get a life", "get a clue", or, "get real". It seems like such a grade school comeback. Is this the equivalent of mormon swearing? Just wondering.
"All that is needed for evil to succeed is that decent human beings do nothing". - Edmund C. Burke
The Majority rules, Proposition 8 succeeded!
The only thing I get out of this so far is that these Gay Marriage people are SORE LOSERS.
Had they Won would I have the right to make such a noise over their winning, think not. My protest would be considered hate speech and anti gay marriage. They would be right on the 2nd. However i believed that Gay Marriage was wrong way before I joined the Church
So according to them this Democracy thing is only supposed to work if it works for them. I do not think so.
I would bert that the Church has good security in place and that they are beyond ready to protect property and take care of business, if need be.
This has nothing to do with Church and State. You Vote according to your belief system and what you feel is right.
You give Mormons and lots of other Christians way to much credit on this issue.
The economy is up in flames and this gets more air time than any issue. Who cares? Move to Massachussets if it's such a big problem. That's why states are allowed to make their own laws - competitive advantage.
Homophobes, chill out: Gays have been around forever, let them live in peace and respect.
Gays, chill out: the people have spoken and voted against defining Gay people as married.
What will protesting LDS facilities do ?
Will it make it reverse ?
What if it went in favor of the Gay population, would it be right for "heteros" to protest Gay groups and their assemblies ?
What about the other groups, like the Knights of Columbus and anyone else voting against Gay marriage ? I'll bet more non-LDS voted against Gay marriage than LDS members.
Face it, the majority won out on this issue, that's what a democracy is supposed to do; vote on issues and candidates, then move on.
I am a "hetero" and do respect those who chose the Gay lifestyle. My deceased uncle, whom I loved dearly, was my role model as a "Man's Man", was Gay. His surviving partner is an "uncle" to me as much as my blood relation uncles.
But if the populace voted against Gay marriage, lets just move on and deal with it. Let's live the lives we choose and respect one another.
Actually, liberal use of the words: "fetch", "fetchin", "crud", and "flippin" fit the category of LDS swearing.
"Get a clue", "get real" and "get a life" are phrases chosen to express emotional feelings, rather than well supported thoughts.
Just because the LDS church has taken a stand on what they beleive doesn't mean they are bigots or haters of the gay and lesbian world. If they feel that marriage between man and woman is a sacred thing, why shouldn't they take a stand? They can love PEOPE without agreeing with them. The country's definition has always been between male and female. Some beleive it should stay that way. That's a right.
The Supreme Court interprets the state constitution and found it lacking so the people, within their rights, change by amendment, the state constitution. That is democracy.
In time, the people will vote in favor of gay marriage because the further we get away from faith the more worldly we get. Ultimately, this country will fall to its knees and then watch out.
The Judgement that will follow will surprise the people that think God condones this.
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