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Published: Sunday, Nov. 16 2008 12:00 a.m. MST

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Supporting groups

One of the problems with the same sex marriage side is that the people they support do not have standards of what is right and wrong. At gay pride events they allow in NAMBLA, the North American Man Boy Love Association and refuse to codemn them. This group has had many of its members convicted of child molestation. They advocate for legalizing gay sex with young children. These are the kind of people you support.

to gays

Homosexuality is a behavior--there is nothing biological about it. There is no homosexual gene. Sorry, there is no third sex; only male and female. You were born from a man and a woman; your own existence destroys your platform.

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Evangelicals!!

Look at the story on the Deseret News posted on Nov 18th!! You bigots will learn something about what happens when religion enters this realm.

Amusing

It is amusing when LDS members talk about their leaders getting direction from "the lord"....Are you seriously suggesting that the leaders of your church are taking their direction from god?? No wonder most Americans think that mormons are a cult. Is that like when your "prophet" had a 'vision' that blacks should be accepted in your church, coincidentally about the same time as the church was about to lose its tax-exempt status for that very reason. That is communicating with god alright, the god of money and greed. I was interested to read Brigham Young's quote: Shall I tell you the law of God in regard to the African Race? If the White man who belongs to the chosen seed mixes his blood with the seed of Cain, the penalty, under the law of God, is death on the spot. This will always be so.

I am sure that you all think this was the word of god too, right?

My fellow people of tolerance and wisdom, don't waste your time here, a cult is a cult is a cult.

Re: Amusing

Huh?

Where else would a prophet get his direction? Every prophet in the Bible took direction from God, why not now? If God is "the same today, yesterday and tomorrow," why would He not continue to takl to prophets?

Do you also consider the Catholic Church to be a cult? The Baptists? Is any church who disagrees with your stance a cult?

That may be your definition, but certainly not the consensus.

Re RE Amusing

Ill take the bait on that. Everything Amusing said is correct except he should include all religions in it. In my opinion, religion itself is a far greater danger than homosexual marriage ever could be. Religion is silly, no matter what clubhouse of a church you go to. Advocating one over another is senseless. Can we have some rational thought now? Is it even possible to argue an issue without including some alice in wonderland religious point of view.

Re: to 9:16 am | 12:18 a.m

You said: "Unfortunately propaganda works, and you want to brainwash children to take your side."

Did you baptize your children into your church? Or did you wait until they were 18 and let them make their own choice?? I'd bet you didn't wait.

Your logic is so far fetched and out of touch with reality, it's simply astounding.

Oh, and by the way...It's not a choice to be gay.

peterandrew

It's not a choice to be gay. I can tell you that from experience. Unless you're gay, you don't know. You also don't know what it's like to be reviled by so many around you, even if you've never acted on your affections, just because you feel the way you do.

It IS a choice to be a bigot. Or to open your heart.

Don't you know that "the letter kills but the spirit gives life"?

Question

Should I believe posters I don't know that tell me that being gay is not a choice or do I belive friends that said they made the choice to be gay? I think I will go with my friends on this one. They are gay and said it was a choice to be that way.

Sheryl Swoops

My friend with a gay son said she made the choice to be a lesbian. Sheryl Swoops, a WNBA player was honest enough to say she made the choice to be a lesbian. There are thousands of other homosexuals and lesbians who said they made the choice to be that way also. Why do you gay poster continue to lie about this lifestyle not being a choice.

Children can make choices

I have made choices all my life. Little children make choices. Apparently only homosexuals and lesbians never make any choices in life. Talk about twisted and confused logic. Stop trying to justify your behavior by saying you have no responsibility for your actions.

I don't have to smoke to know that smoking is bad. I don't have to be gay to know it is wrong and you are making a choice to be that way. What I have found is that the person who calls others bigots is usually the only one with the bigotry.

Oxy Moroni

To: Question | 12:47 a.m
and Children can make choices | 1:06 a.m

I don't believe sexual preference is a choice. You cannot choose who or what you are mentally and physically attracted to. I believe those gay people that say it was a choice simply mean that they have accepted their attraction to members of the same sex and chose to pursue it. People don't just decide one day to be attracted to something. A man could be attracted to a woman, and he chooses to act on that attraction. Does me he chose to be attracted to her? No, he merely chose to act on his desire. Does that mean he chose to be straight? No.

Can you recall at what stage of your life that you consciously decided, "Well, I think I will like members of the opposite sex?" You didn't, you just knew, it was not a choice you made, you just knew. The same is true for gay people.

Oxy Moroni

Thank you for packaging your "choice" posting in a concise and intelligent way that the haters on here just might be able to understand.

Also, I believe that the people who posted saying that 'their friends' told them it was a choice are either utterly lying to perpetuate the notion or do not understand what their friends have told them (along the lines of what you said: it is a choice to accept who you are or pretend you can change it. Anyone who actually is gay knows that there is nothing in this universe that you can do to change it). Anyone who is NOT gay (most of you posting on this topic), just shut up because you don't know you are talking about and you cannot possibly...you are not gay. So give it a rest!

speaking for GOD?

is that what the prophet is doing? not in my book. the GOD i believe in is a GOD of LOVE, not fear. Gay marriage does NOT change your marriage at all and it hurts noone. Don't try to equate it with pedophilia or other sex that has victims.

all this anti-gay rights stuff is born of fear. let your brother live as he chooses (remember free agency? remember your polygamous heritage?)and let GOD judge their hearts.

Anonymous

To those who say it is a choice to be gay:

I chose to live a gay lifestyle!

1) It is recognized by the general authorities of the church that being gay is not a choice. (They offer a life of celibacy to gay mormons--and no longer encourage marriage to the opposite sex).

2) I didn't choose to live the gay lifestyle until the age of 29, after I had dated girls and was unable to feel sexually aroused by them (I have never been able to be sexually aroused by women, I'm probably a Kinsey 9 or 10).

3) My family fasted and prayed each fast Sunday with my homosexual feelings for 3 years. Occasionally, my extended family held a special fast. My name also graced the prayer circle at the temple.

4) I went to LDS Social Services for three + years and met with my bishop almost weekly for five years.

5) I remained a virgin until I was 31.

6) I attended church and did all I can to remove the feelings.

The feelings/inclinations never left. It is not a choice to be gay.

It is a right to be compensated monetarily for being heterosexual.

to Anonymous

Bless you. Regardless of how the Church or other people feel, I bet God loves you just the way you are--gay.

from a straight woman standing beside her gay brothers and sisters.

To : John

Polygamy WAS part of the LDS church but it was not practiced by everyone and is not practiced by any member of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints today. you are thinking of the FLDS people. two totally opposite things. and it is Mormon not Morman.

To Anonymous | 4:48 p.m

Thank you ---

I don't know why some heteros equate being gay with smoking.

Really!

I am also gay and I don't smoke --- and the two cannot be further apart --- poles apart.

Let me ask you hetero incapacitated ---

When you look at someone atractive of the opposite sex, do you choose to be attracted to that person or does it come naturally?

I rest my case.

You do not choose. Your hormones --- your wiring --- not just your biology --- determines attraction/orientation/identity.

Heteros that do not see that are too preoccupied with their own notions of what it means to be hetero --- that they don't think that not everyone thinks the way they do.

We do not choose to be this way.

Like previous person said --- had we a choice, I would have chosen a life of non-harrassment, non-teasing, non-prejudice for four decades now.

Have I given the opposite sex a chance?

Yes.

And I choose --- and I said it, I choose, not to break anymore hearts of the opposite sex.

It is not fair to them and it is not fair to me.

So quit your high and mighty speak.

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