Comments about ‘Hundreds take to S.L. streets to protest, support Prop. 8 ban on gay marriage’

Most people who adopt their children out want a good moral mom and a dad for their children.... NOT 2 dads or 2 moms-- this would NOT be fair to the child. Parents should always make certain when adopting out their children that he/she will NOT be placed in a gay home. It should also be in writing.

Far from showing that Californias Supreme Court was wrong to extend the right of marriage to gay people, the passage of Proposition 8 is a reminder of the crucial role that the courts play in protecting vulnerable groups from unfair treatment. Mormons were once such a group and it is not hard to imagine that they could be again. Be wise and think about that for a while...

There's the possibility the Amendment will be ruled Unconstitutional-Again.

The people you know that are waiting to adopt have waited for years because they want a baby. Not all children eligible for fostering or for adoption are pink, perfect and infants. Some have heart defects relating to a drug addicted mother or just nature, some have fetal alcohol syndrome, some have renal issues and various other problems. Sorry, but for those children very few are waiting and some that were happened to be homosexual and now are ineligible. Yeah, those kids are better of institutionalized than is a gay loving home? Sorry if I rolled my eyes on that one.

You also might want too remember that it was Texas, not Arkansas that mass evacuated children from their non-standard homes.

-volunteer for special needs children in the system

Where did you get your information from? It is simply not true, in fact you made it up. It's disgusting. It is people like you who perpetuate hate (and probably the same ones who believe Obama is a Muslim).

For the last time, THIS IS NOT A CIVIL RIGHTS ISSUE!!!!! You have every right we do, and I am sick of you and your pathetic sign waving!! Also, please, quit comparing this to segregation and slavery. This is nothing like that. Gender is not a choice, so segregation is wrong. Race is not a choice, so slavery is wrong. But, for the love of Pete, dont try to tell me that homosexuality is something that you are born with. YOu can choose to stop at any time. Please do!!

The LDS commenters on here who are so sure that homosexuality is a choice, it's completely laughable. You think it's true because, hmmm...you are gay yourself? (in that case, I might believe you) OR your pastor told you so? You read it in a mormon book? you saw it on a mormon tv station? your incorrect idea is certainly not from any intelligent or intellectual training or experience. Those of you who have said so, demonstrate the tragedy of bigotry in its truest form, sadly. And it shows that people in UT seem to be very poorly educated.

I agree with Mormon Defender, who got his/her facts straight with the voting. I have a couple of things to say to those who are homosexuals or supporters of homosexuals out there who say that if you don't support gay marriage you are violating the constitution by taking away their "right to marry" somebody of the same sex. Well, take a good look at yourselves: shooting out windows at LDS Churches in some areas in Utah, fires at seminary buildings, trying to bann Utah. If that isn't ignorance, I don't know what is.

I believe gay people have the right to decide who they want to date/live with/be with, etc., the right to fair housing and employment (unless working for a church or Christian organization), the right to leave their estate to whomever they please and the right of visitation in hospitals, etc.

However, marriage is not a civil right.

You also do not have the right to force others to accept homosexuality as normal, equal to heterosexuality, etc.

If you really want to understand hypocrisy, turn to the article on this very website regarding the 21 children recently seized from Evangelicals. We can deal with the children in Texas that were seized from Mormons some other time. Both stories completely neutralize your support of Prop 8 and show the religious community to be the hypocrites and bigots that they are.

What bothers me about people like you is that you label anyone who doesn't buy into your way of thinking as a moron or a bigot.

Labelling everyone in Utah or all LDS people as brainwashed, uninformed, and bigoted is at least as ignorant and bigoted as those you accuse.

For the record, the jury is far from in on whether homosexuality is a choice, in-born, or varies according to the individual.

FWIW, I am LDS living in a Blue State but was educated in Utah and I have done well in my profession and even finished #1 in my Masters' Program here in my new state. So, not everyone from Utah is a poorly educated bigot as you say.

It seems to me that you are the bigot by labelling an entire group of people a certain way. I also wonder how you and those of your type honestly expect to change the minds of people you've just finished insulting.

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The LDS commenters on here who are so sure that homosexuality is a choice, it's completely laughable. You think it's true because, hmmm...you are gay yourself? (in that case, I might believe you) OR your pastor told you so? You read it in a mormon book? you saw it on a mormon tv station? your incorrect idea is certainly not from any intelligent or intellectual training or experience. Those of you who have said so, demonstrate the tragedy of bigotry in its truest form, sadly. And it shows that people in UT seem to be very poorly educated.


Actually, there is no definite proof that a gene for gayness exists. It is all hypotheses. Therefore, until researchers can conclusively prove the existence of the gene, you cannot with any verifiable evidence claim homosexuals are born that way.

I am glad that there is one educated person commenting on here, so you would probably agree then that the people I am referring to do not appear to be educated. I myself AM gay and I am very well aware that it is not a choice in any way and there is not a single person I have met in the gay community who feels it is a choice. I would hope then, you might agree that at the very least it is extremely insulting to be told it is a choice by people who clearly have no clue and no education regarding this matter AND as I said previously, are merely parroting what they've heard in their religious circles.

I cannot answer for you whether it is a choice or not because I am not you. I do have 3 very good friends who went to counseling because they were sexually assaulted as teenagers by grown men. They struggled with whether they were gay or not. I would hate to see the kind of counseling they received outlawed as their situation seems cleary different from yours.

I know several gays and lesbians who said that it was a choice to be that way. You people need to widen your circle of friends and stop telling the big lie that you don't have a choice.

The first amendment prohibits the government from establishing a national church and prohibits the government from interfering in religion. There is no separation of church and state in the Constitution. Marriage is not just religious, the government sanctions it and regulates it. Religions and their people can make their views known just like all Americans. Its called freedom of speech. Stop attacking the LDS church and take a look at your own lives. When you have done as much good as the LDS church then you can pop off, but that will never happen.

You quoted the first amendment, but there is not separation of church and state in the Constitution. It just stops government from setting up a state church and interfering in people exercising their religion. Churches and religious people can influence government policy all they want. At least you were honest that you want gay marriage taught in school. Totally confused and illogical, but honest on that point. Marriage is a societal concern, so government regulates it. Teaching gay marriage in schools is just like advertizing it. More people will make the wrong choice to be gay especially if it is taught to elementary students like in Massachusetts. Unfortunately propaganda works, and you want to brainwash children to take your side. Education is great, but false gay propaganda is bad for children and society.

The LDS church ended up on the wrong side of the Race as well. One day we will look back at this as another embarrassing moment in the Church's history.

-even democracy was once a liberal movement-

to 3:45pm post:
It is the truth. You may hate the truth, but it doesn't change it. One third of child molestations are same sex done by homosexuals and lesbians. Homosexuals and lesbians are 1-3% of the population. This means that homosexuals and lesbians are many times more likely to child molest than heterosexuals. It doesn't say every gay person is a child molester, but that they are much more likely to commit that crime. This has been reported in the media. Its not to hard to figure out.

You same sex marriage types really should educate yourselves more on this issue. There is so much basic stuff you don't know. Many homosexuals and lesbians were molested by same sex predators as children. This is typically a major reason why they choose the lifestyle. I feel bad for anybody who is a victim of this horrible crime, but they weren't born that way.