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Take some adivce from Elton John.....
"Sir Elton John has come forward saying hes for Proposition 8, which bans gay marriages. He believes gay couples should stick to civil unions rather than getting married.
Elton and his longtime partner David Furnish celebrated a civil union ceremony back in 2005. At the Elton John AIDS Foundation in NYC on Monday night, he said, Were not married. Lets get that right. We have a civil partnership. I dont want to be married. Im very happy with a civil partnership. If gay people want to get married, or get together, they should have a civil partnership. The word marriage, I think, puts a lot of people off. You get the same equal rights that we do when we have a civil partnership. Heterosexual people get married. We can have civil partnerships. "
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Isaiah 5:20...Woe unto them that call evil good and good evil; that put darkness for light and light for darkness.
How tragic that those who try to follow Christ and live the commandments of God are called bigoted and uneducated.
How tragic that those who oppose the sanctity of marriage and family, as established by God for thousands of years, are considered enlightened.
We must all stand together with faith. Those that be with us are greater than those that be against us. We will always stand for what is right no matter how much persection is heaped upon us. It is true.....they have awakened a sleeping giant.
It's a civil rights issue. The right to marry was already defined as a fundamental civil right. I think that the LDS shouldn't have acted as a political action committee to take away minority groups civil rights. Everyone has the right to believe their religion but the gay people also have the right to believe that they were born that way. So, we are getting into differing belief systems neither of which should cancel out any civil rights from the other side. Any reasonable person should know that in a free society no one should lose civil rights for their beliefs. Not the Mormons and not the gays although, I do see a compelling reason why the government should start looking at the LDS tax exempt status's if it is really acting as a political organization.
Yes, thank you to all 52% who voted for Prop. 8 and for the fundamentals in Utah whos supported it.
And get over yourselves, you want to avoid the punches when you start messing with our lives --- your religion might be sacred, but guess what? so are own lives. So give a punch, take a punch back. Take that.
You just made a closet gay come out and start moving things.
If I didn't see it before, I see it now.
AND...
Is this the way half of Utah treats their gays on a regular basis? Their friends, sons, daughters, co-workers, I pity you people.
And not only are not happy keeping their gays in misery in Utah. They want to spread the misery to two states over. Just pathetic.
Adam and Eve are turning over in their graves....
To: Equal Rights - "Please understand that the LGBT community has lived with hate crimes, slurs, .....discrimination for years"
Welcome to the club.
Sorry to pop your bubble...but marriage has NOT always been a purely heterosexual institution... read something other than a eurocentric text book.
As for government endorsement, go to Canada, Spain, Massachusetts... they recognize stable relationships between two consenting adults as a human right.
As for the activists... you're taking less than 1% of the people rallying around the country and stereotyping the lot of them. That's sad. What if the gay population were to blame you personally for the murder of Matthew Shepard?
Only in America would a person have to travel to Canada to be treated like an American.
I am confused, Approximately 5.4 million Californians voted on Prop 8. There are approx. 700,000 Mormons in California, half of which are under 18 and cannot vote. So lets just round up a bit and say 400,000 Californians voted yes on prop.8. Basically 5 million non Mormons voted yes on 8, so how is this the Church's fault? It is okay to show support for something, all the Church did is show support, period. You no on 8 people rallied to fight it too, and spent more than yes on 8 did. Had this gone the other way would you see Mormons taking to the streets and be saying hateful like you supporters? Doubt it. Defeat is always painful, you no on 8 supporter lost, fair and square. And the Mormon church is only one brick in that wall of 5 million voters. Please accept that. The state chose, not the Church.
Enough said!!
if you believe in them, are the father and mother of all living people. That would include gay and lesbian progeny.
Heterosexuals are being allowed to destroy same-sex marriage, not vice versa. They are the tyrants. Stop playing the victim.
Please get educated. Obviously you haven't read how the LDS Church encouraged Church members to donate money, time, and energy into Passing Prop. 8 --- based on lies.
Hope you're not confused now. Glad I could help.
It's kind of funny how liberals LOVE the constitutional right of free speech and opinions. Except when it works against one of their causes. Back atcha libbies!
Thank you for your well-worded response.
One thing I disagree with is when you say there "is not one iota of hatred or bigotry emanating out of the LDS church". Fact is, there is bigotry on both sides of the issue. Ultimately, we are both doing what we believe is best for our families--and have a hard time understanding the other side.
As for semantics...I wouldn't mind having a civil union, if they were indeed recognized nationwide and by the federal government, which they are not. Also, civil unions do not currently provide all the rights and privileges that marriage current grants.
The definition of marriage has changed over time and varies throughout cultures...it is no longer about ownership, thank everything holy.
I don't mind if you choose not to call our lifelong bonds marriage. However I will continue to fight for and defend my right to the same rights and privileges afforded to my married heterosexual counterparts.
The LDS church has said it's Pro-Family, not Anti-gay. We're not Anti-LDS, we're Pro-Family. Let's work together instead of against another. The church should help us repeal amendment 3 and pass LGBT friendly legislation that will protect all our families.
Btw, religious people do not have to sole right to the word "marriage/married/marry". My wife and I were raised in different religions, but practice neither. We chose not to be married in a church and to have a civil ceremony instead, but we were still issued a "marriage certificate". And no one has ever referred to us as "civil unioned" rather than "married".
If ya'll still insist that you have the sole right to this word because you believe it should apply to only men and women, go ahead, try and trademark it for your sole use at the U.S. Patent and Trademark Office and see what happens.
To Prop 8 opponents - get over it, you lost. Its more than a little ironic that the very people who preach tolerance for the gay lifestyle seem utterly incapable of practicing that tolerance. Why don't you lead by example and show the same tolerance for opposing viewpoints that you expect the rest of us to exhibit...
Yes, a sleeping giant has been awakened - those who oppose gay marriage. If those in the gay community advancing their agenda hadn't done so in such a confrontational manner, they might be further down the road than they are now. As it is, these actions by the gay community will serve only to strengthen and exapnd opposition to their agenda.
The voice of the people have made abortion legal years ago.
So LDS "get over it" The people have spoken.
Oopps... We meant only when the people we agree with have spoken. Keep protesting those abortion clinics because they disagree with your religous beliefs.
OH that is freedom of speech to harass people going inside beacuse they have different beliefs.
The comment has been made that a gay rights 'giant' has been awakened by the passage of Prop. 8 - for those who take this silver lining view, you should know that another giant has awakened, i.e., the majority who oppose gay marriage. The hatred and intolerance exhibited by the anti Prop. 8 protestors will, and have, served to strengthen and expand opposition to the gay agenda. Keep up the protests...
Are you really that uneducated or simply disengeneous? When is the last time you saw any LDS at abortion clinic protests? Let me answer for you never. Or only very, very rarely.
You are confusing us with someone else. Let's stay on point please.
It is not the LDS church (or any others) out there protesting and spewing hatred and venom-the very thing that you accuse us of.
Go ahead and call evil good all you want-it doesn't change anything. Good is good and evil is evil and nothing will change no matter how often you repeat it to yourself.
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