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Mankind may bravely say that there is no sin. But fornication, adultery and homosexuality are still sins. In the case of moral issues, majority or minority doesn't matter. Right is still right and wrong is still wrong. You can protest, scream, flail and even gnash your teeth. It will not change truth.
We should not forget the story of Sodom and Gomorrah. The Lord told Abraham that He was going to destroy these wicked cities, mainly because of their sexual sins. But Abraham pled with the Lord not to destroy the cities because he would destroy the righteous with the wicked. The problem was, the only righteous people who could be found were Lot and his family.
When the Lord sent holy men to visit Lot, he had to protect them from those of the city who wanted to "know them" (in other words, have sex with them). Lot and his family were led away and then the cities were destroyed.
Sodom and Gomorrah is here and the residents are knocking on our doors. They are in our face with their demands. They want our pity.
I hope there are still righteous people left to protect our civilization.
Please tell me where you got your figures ($4,943.18) for what "the Church" donated. And if you got it off a pro-gay website, you'll have to document that for me as well (where THEY got it from.) I know my church and what you're saying is just not true.
The only hateful behaviour I have observed is that of the sore losers. I am straight and USED TO BE sympathetic to the same-sex marriage cause, but no more. This isn't about equality but about political power. It turns my stomach. I'm tired of being used.
Answer the following questions?
Who is trying to change the definition of marrige?
How can you take rights away rights from a group that is not a protected class?
Who is protesting and blocking others freedoms that are a protected class ie religion!
Who is using violet actions and calling others racist?
Please show us were because someone disagrees with you and they are religious that they are evil and oh yes not allowed to express their opions because they are religious?
I gave my life to the church. I served in every position my Heavenly Father asked me to. I went on a mission, and did everything I could to be an upstanding member of the church. I tried so hard to overcome my attraction to the same sex. Countless amounts of therapy with church leaders, LDS counselors along with intense personal effort resulted in a complete understanding that this was truly not a choice. I wish that those that think this is a choice could have viewed and experienced the years of emotional pain, tears, deep reflection, and soul searching that were involved in this realization. I asked my heterosexual mother to visualize herself "choosing" to be attracted to women. She could not imagine it. I can assure you I did not choose my attraction. I am now with my best friend and soul mate who I love and admire. I have hopes and dreams for a beautiful life together just like my heterosexual siblings have with their spouses. Marriage provides many privileges and benefits that are real. They should be given to every equal child of God and citizen of this great land.
As one of the organizers of the rally and vigil last night, I think it appropriate for me to clarify some things for people who were not there.
1) We are anti-violence. I know the actions of less than a handful of individuals have caused damage to LDS structures. On the other side, I've seen the pain of families who have had their sons and daughters murdered for being gay. We condemn violence from either side.
2) We're not Anti-LDS, we're Pro-Family. The reason the LDS is catching a lot of backfire is because for being 5% of Califonias population, they funded 77% of the Yes on 8 campaign. LGBT people are angry because their families are being attacked- and a disproportionate amount of the funding for these attacks has come from LDS hands.
Both sides argue that their actions are motivated by a dedication to protect thier families. We're not trying to harm your family; just the opposite. Your families are beautiful. We believe our familes are beautiful and want to provide them with the same rights and protections.
Seperate is not equal. We're Americans, and as Americans we value equality. As an American, please grant other Americans equality.
Mobs marching against Mormons is not new. Mormons were not swayed to change their beliefs last time and they are not going to do so this time. The founder of the church was even killed by one of these mobs and it did not stop the Latter-day saint movement from prospering. No amount of ignorance or plain old bigotry from any detractor will change things.
I believe that all people should be respected. What happens in one's home is one's business. However, trying to change historical laws to fit one's lifestyle borders on disrespect. Singling out and attacking one religion for it's stand on historical laws is blatant disrespect. Especially, when the Catholic and Protestant communities stood together with the LDS church.
This is RIDICULOUS. I live in SoCal. One of our friends down here donated 100 bucks to the campaign through here photography business which she uses to support here two kids. Gay activists found her website and are encouraging all to boycott her business calling her shameful and a terrible person.
I once felt empathy for the anti-8s but this is DISPICAPLE behavior on their part. Who's intolerant!?!?
Prop 8 is not about gay rights, but children's rights and our nation's rights, to have the basic family unit preserved.
John,
"Gay marriage does nothing to threaten heterosexual marriage."
Oh really? This very article being commented on mentioned two men who were once married to LDS women but are now "married" to each other. It certainly looks like gay "marriage" broke up their marriages. I have seen countless similar examples.
Your statement is inaccurate. The has been vandalism of church buildings during demonstrations/protests, ie, the LA Temple. These people are calling for a right that isn't a right. Rights protect what we are not the lifestyles we engage in. Homosexuality is a lifestyle and while I believe there are those that have tendencies, I do not feel that anyone is made gay. Everyone has a choice. Once we begin to adjust the mores of society to accommodate the preferences of others, we lose our foundation and society becomes anarchy. Just as a parent doesn't allow a child to touch a hot stove because of understanding and love, we cannot allow gay marriage to be. It not because of hate but because of understanding and love. Stop throwing the tantrum and see things as they really are.
I have many friends--some LDS, some Catholic, some Gay, some Straight...
I have no issue with people exercising their Constitutional right to protest peacefully...
Nor exercising their constitutional right to vote however they want...
I don't know about you but I have my own mind and can make my own decision...as I trust everyone is California does as well!!!
BUT I have a BIG PROBLEM with people resorting to violence, intimidation, and vandalism...(Dr. King would also be discusted, guaranteed).
RE Richard G: Hmmm, blacks and women were loud and boisterous when it came to bigotry and inequality. Remember, to change the status quo, you must stand up and be heard. As a dedicated, gay father to a LDS daughter, I understand all about the definition of "morality." That's why I continue to stand up as an example to her. When a church, guided by what they deem as "truth," attempts to mandate that perspective far and wide, then we've arrived at an immoral and dangerous time in history. That's not the kind of governing or country I believe in.
I live in So Cal, but I want to say thank you to every protester and to tell you that I've never been prouder to be from Salt Lake. Lines have been drawn on this issue and Salt Lake is ground zero. When gay marriage is as common as having a black president, I will be proud to say that the genesis was in my home town.
This is a lot of talk over an absurd issue. I have heard a lot of people against prop 8 who are well versed and argue eloquently about how they are being discriminated against. It is almost unfortunate that others argue against them, thereby dignifying what they have to say. What it all boils down to is that gays and lesbians are defending behavior that is completely disgusting and reprehensible on so many levels.
Let it go. This has nothing to do with us in Utah. It was in CALIFORNIA! Did you get to vote on Proposition 8? I didn't. I'm sick of hearing about it. Stop reporting on it and the protestors will lose their interest because they won't be getting attention anymore. There are better ways to get what you want, protesting does absolutely NOTHING.
The big crowds at the protest's prove nothing.
Many of the people are paid, to make it appear that more people are against it.
Check it out.
Google: Paid protesters.
Why do my comments always get cut? Sodomy is the legal term and central to this topic.
I know a large number of gay men and women did not attend the rallies. Why? Because they just don't care about the issue. They already had other plans to work, to volunteer at charitable organizations, and to be a part of their larger community. These men and women know how to not isolate themselves and be neighborly.
Also, attendance at many LDS churches increased last week. I noticed that at my ward, and I heard the same report from many friends. That could really mean that a sleeping giant has awakened, and it decided to go back to church.
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