Comments about ‘Catholics, Mormons joined to pass Prop. 8’

Yes, its all about children. The anti-Prop 8 folks don't want us to think about their impact on children.

The anti-Prop 8, pro gay marriage crowd ran ads charging this whole idea that public schools will teach gay marriage is just a "lie."

However, the same groups who said its a lie public schools will teach about gay marriage whether parents like it or not were in court in Massachusetts filing amicus briefs arguing parents don't have any right to opt their children out of the pro-gay marriage curriculum.

From the Anti-Defamation League (ADL) Amicus Curiae Brief:
, it is particularly important to teach children about families with gay parents. [p 5]

From the Human Rights Campaign Amicus Curiae Brief:
(parents have) no right to remove the books now in issue or to impose an opt-out system. [pp1-2]

From the ACLU Amicus Curiae Brief:
parents do not have a constitutional right to override pedagogical judgment of the school King and King. [p 9]

Which side is really telling the truth here about its aims? Which side cares about our children?

It's so nice to see the Catholic Church and the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints unite on this most important topic. We should all join with them to help preserve traditional marriage - the most stabilizing force in our culture. The opponents to California's passed proposition 8 are now showing their true colors - that of a hate filled and love deprived group of individuals. I feel sorry for them and can actually pray for them - hard as that will be to do. Lastly, I trust that not all homosexual-oriented individuals feel this same way and condone these actions.

Meanwhile, in the rest of the world, the Catholic Church continues to view the Mormons as a despicable cult. A few months ago the Vatican blocked LDS access to parish registers for genealogy. Moreover, this local association with the Catholic church in California costs the Mormon church painful internal strife and much negative external publicity. Is the result, in broader perspective, worth the energy and the financial sacrifice that was asked from members?

Hey, don't include my church in your newest fubar!!! Unlike the LDS, we did not cross the line "Of separation of church and state". The LDS blatantly told their "ELOY" members how to vote and lobbing tens of millions dollars in a state far away from Utah... Don't even try to say your being singled out! YOU threw your "Wizard hats" in the Political ring and expect the Majority to push back

Archbishop Niederauer's assignment to San Francisco was very fortuitous. God bless him.

Two "married" women raising a child tell the child day in and day out by their example that men are not important. That child will grow up either believing that men are not important or that she/he is not good enough to have a dad, or both. Parenting is more than being loving to children. Parenting is putting the needs of the child over the wants of the parents. Children need - and naturally want - both a father and a mother. Traditional marriage is the best way to raise children to become successful adults.

Seems like the protesters need to expand their boundaries...Or get a clue that it wasn't just Mormons on the side of the VOTE YES on PROP 8 movement.

The current definition of tolerance is changing. Tolerance no longer means tolerating something you disagree with, dislike, or consider morally wrong.
"Tolerance" (and political correctness for that matter) in current usage means to embrace, support, and promote.

Gay "rights" advocates do not just want us to tolerate homosexuality or even just let homosexuals carry on with their lives, they want everyone to applaud them and support them and never verbally disagree with them. Anything but 100% support is "intolerant" or worse, it is bigotry.

Alexander Pope said it best: "Vice is a monster of so frightful mein, as, to be hated needs but to be seen; Yet seen too oft, familiar with her face, We first endure, then pity, then embrace."

I don't see how any person or church who uses the Bible as their main text can condone, support, or agree with homosexuality or marriage.

Homosexuals are not looking to have "rights" rather they are looking for global support, from Kindergarten to college.

The Catholics apparently got the Mormons to do the heavy lifting, and take the heat, while the Catholics got what they wanted, with no repercussions. Shrewd.

As a California "Mormon", our Stake had its Conference at the Oakland Inter Stake Center on Temple Hill. There were protesters with their signs, but only when the media showed, did some get "in your face" and block cars going into the parking lot. Funny that after we all got inside, they left. Wondered if the Greek Church down the street was harrased as well?

I am very happy that Catholics are coming forward to defend LDS members who supported Prop 8. We all need to work together for what's right.

I must say, however, I am somewhat concerned about the fact that I keep hearing Catholic defenders refer to the "Church of the Latter-Day Saints." It is the Church of JESUS CHRIST of Latter-Day Saints. Those who defend us are greatly appreciated, but please call us by our correct name.

Where are all your nasty and negative posters? I know it is more fun to be nasty to the mormons. It appears that more catholics turned to vote yes than the mormons did. Where is the outrage?

I've read in some articles of Bisexuals wanting equal rights to marry in groups as well. To give gays rights but to deny bisexuals seems hypocritical to me. Because being gay is a sexual orientation, but rightfully; so is being bisexual. Is one group better than the other, or more deserving? Anyway, just my two cents...

war always brings people together. All denominations of Christians as well as Jews and Muslims come together to fight against the greater evil and for the greater good. The same was true for Prop 8 which was very much a war without the killing. Members of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints as well as Catholics and Protestants along with Jews and others all saw the need to protect marriage against the gay onslaught. It was a refreshing thing to see people put aside their minor differences and all put their shoulder to the wheel and push through this important bill.

RC's and LDS holding hands, what a wonderful world.

Thank you Teaching: I have never understood why I HAVE to be tolerent of something that I disagree with, but others don't have to be tolerent of my disagreement. I had this conversation with a gay friend of mine, when I asked him "why do I have to condone your homosexual relationship and pretend that I like it, but you cannot condone my Mormon religion that believes your relationship is wrong?" He had no answer for me. Is there anyone with an answer to this? Why are only the gays right on this topic and EVERYONE who votes against them bigots? And why are they only picketing the Mormons? A Jewish friend of mine said "they are only picketing Mormons because your an easy target right now, let them win this battle and they will come after the Catholics and the Jews next. Evil is spreading through the hate that people are allowed to throw at each other in the name of being politically correct."

To Leo,
The prop-8 issue involves the church sticking to its basic beliefs.
Marriage between a man and a woman is essential to God's plan of hapiness.
The publicity from these events will attract more true believers to the church.

To brxp,
To begin with this article comes from the San Francisco Chronicle.
Secondly, the majority is on our side. They voted for Prop 8, so your claim of "expect the majority to push back" is not based on fact.

We as Latter-day Saint followers of Christ do not apologioze for our position on the family or on the nature of marriage in support of the family as is clearly defined and has been for a number of years in our "The Family - A Proclamation to the World."

We are pleased to join with our Catholic friends and those of other faiths, Christians or not, who stand for marriage the way it was ordained in the beginning.

Our position does not aim at individuals...they may make whatever choices they wish, accepting all the natural attendant consequences...resultant from the moral agency each has a gift from God. Rather, for us, it is in faithfulness to what we hold firmly as a sacred tenent that we will ever stand as we do now. The matter in not an issue of "relativity" or modern secularism but of absolute principle for us.

We are content to let anyone live the lifestyle he or she chooses, asking only the same respect for our beliefs as he or she has has for his or her own.

I must say that I have never been a huge fan of mormon theology, nor the catholic for that matter....I am baptist myself, but we can all shed those things that make each unique and come together to defend the most important aspect of family life. I think it's great that the churches worked together to overcome this challenge in the most liberal state in the US. The gays should protest in neighborhoods.....the voters approved this, how can they be angry?

"Till we all come to a unity of the faith".